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Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I have this issue where whenever I try to join a group of people who have known each other forever and they're already deep in some conversation I know nothing about, I just... I don't know how to jump in. It feels like I'm forcing myself on them, you know? I always end up feeling awkward or just plain stupid, and then they just keep talking amongst themselves like I wasn't even there. Also, I can't stand those people who just talk and talk without ever letting anyone else get a word in because they aren't actually interested in listening. But then again, it feels like nobody ever wants to listen to me either. I guess I don't really get why that is. Can anyone help? I usually just stay quiet, but when I finally do say something, I immediately regret it. 😢

Oh, and I should probably mention that I don't really have any friends. My doctor actually referred me to psychotherapy because my social life is basically non-existent, but I don't have the money to pay for it. 😢

It’s like... I feel like a ghost walking among people, like nobody actually sees me. Even if I do manage to hang out with someone, it never even gets to the point where we swap numbers. On top of that, I struggle because most people just aren't really my type of person to be friends with. It's not that I'm being picky or anything, I just... I can't find common ground. Maybe it's because I deal with depression and I expect too much from people, I guess. Once, back in summer school, I met my absolute best friend. We were together constantly for fifteen days, and I've never felt that kind of connection before or since. But then we went our separate ways, and since she lives in another state now, we've only seen each other once more. 😢
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#2 ·
I don't really know what I'm doing here, but I guess I'll just say welcome to the thread☕
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#3 ·
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but even at college everyone kind of just ignores me. Sometimes when I actually try to say something, people start laughing or they just mock me behind my back. It’s weird. Everyone seems to have these little groups and hangs out constantly, while I’m always just... standing there by myself. I used to talk to this one girl, but she ended up dropping out. Now it feels like everyone is part of this tight-knit crew and they're all tight with each other, except for me.
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#4 ·
So, I’m back on the forums, though it feels like most people here pretty much steer clear of me... unless you count my own clones, I guess. I wasn't really expecting anyone to actually reply anyway, but yeah, otherwise it's fine☕
feralheron84 feralheron84 Newcomer
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#5 ·
Chris Cooper5 said:I have this issue where whenever I try to join a group of people who have known each other forever and they're already deep in some conversation I know nothing about, I just... I don't know how to jump in. It feels like I'm forcing myself on them, you know? I always end up feeling awkward or just plain stupid, and then they just keep talking amongst themselves like I wasn't even there. Also, I can't stand those people who just talk and talk without ever letting anyone else get a word in because they aren't actually interested in listening. But then again, it feels like nobody ever wants to listen to me either. I guess I don't really get why that is. Can anyone help? I usually just stay quiet, but when I finally do say something, I immediately regret it. 😢

Oh, and I should probably mention that I don't really have any friends. My doctor actually referred me to psychotherapy because my social life is basically non-existent, but I don't have the money to pay for it. 😢

It’s like... I feel like a ghost walking among people, like nobody actually sees me. Even if I do manage to hang out with someone, it never even gets to the point where we swap numbers. On top of that, I struggle because most people just aren't really my type of person to be friends with. It's not that I'm being picky or anything, I just... I can't find common ground. Maybe it's because I deal with depression and I expect too much from people, I guess. Once, back in summer school, I met my absolute best friend. We were together constantly for fifteen days, and I've never felt that kind of connection before or since. But then we went our separate ways, and since she lives in another state now, we've only seen each other once more. 😢

Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Chris Cooper5 said:I have this issue where whenever I try to join a group of people who have known each other forever and they're already deep in some conversation I know nothing about, I just... I don't know how to jump in. It feels like I'm forcing myself on them, you know? I always end up feeling awkward or just plain stupid, and then they just keep talking amongst themselves like I wasn't even there. Also, I can't stand those people who just talk and talk without ever letting anyone else get a word in because they aren't actually interested in listening. But then again, it feels like nobody ever wants to listen to me either. I guess I don't really get why that is. Can anyone help? I usually just stay quiet, but when I finally do say something, I immediately regret it. 😢

Oh, and I should probably mention that I don't really have any friends. My doctor actually referred me to psychotherapy because my social life is basically non-existent, but I don't have the money to pay for it. 😢

It’s like... I feel like a ghost walking among people, like nobody actually sees me. Even if I do manage to hang out with someone, it never even gets to the point where we swap numbers. On top of that, I struggle because most people just aren't really my type of person to be friends with. It's not that I'm being picky or anything, I just... I can't find common ground. Maybe it's because I deal with depression and I expect too much from people, I guess. Once, back in summer school, I met my absolute best friend. We were together constantly for fifteen days, and I've never felt that kind of connection before or since. But then we went our separate ways, and since she lives in another state now, we've only seen each other once more. 😢

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

Chris Cooper5 said:I have this issue where whenever I try to join a group of people who have known each other forever and they're already deep in some conversation I know nothing about, I just... I don't know how to jump in. It feels like I'm forcing myself on them, you know? I always end up feeling awkward or just plain stupid, and then they just keep talking amongst themselves like I wasn't even there. Also, I can't stand those people who just talk and talk without ever letting anyone else get a word in because they aren't actually interested in listening. But then again, it feels like nobody ever wants to listen to me either. I guess I don't really get why that is. Can anyone help? I usually just stay quiet, but when I finally do say something, I immediately regret it. 😢

Oh, and I should probably mention that I don't really have any friends. My doctor actually referred me to psychotherapy because my social life is basically non-existent, but I don't have the money to pay for it. 😢

It’s like... I feel like a ghost walking among people, like nobody actually sees me. Even if I do manage to hang out with someone, it never even gets to the point where we swap numbers. On top of that, I struggle because most people just aren't really my type of person to be friends with. It's not that I'm being picky or anything, I just... I can't find common ground. Maybe it's because I deal with depression and I expect too much from people, I guess. Once, back in summer school, I met my absolute best friend. We were together constantly for fifteen days, and I've never felt that kind of connection before or since. But then we went our separate ways, and since she lives in another state now, we've only seen each other once more. 😢

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

Chris Cooper5 said:I have this issue where whenever I try to join a group of people who have known each other forever and they're already deep in some conversation I know nothing about, I just... I don't know how to jump in. It feels like I'm forcing myself on them, you know? I always end up feeling awkward or just plain stupid, and then they just keep talking amongst themselves like I wasn't even there. Also, I can't stand those people who just talk and talk without ever letting anyone else get a word in because they aren't actually interested in listening. But then again, it feels like nobody ever wants to listen to me either. I guess I don't really get why that is. Can anyone help? I usually just stay quiet, but when I finally do say something, I immediately regret it. 😢

Oh, and I should probably mention that I don't really have any friends. My doctor actually referred me to psychotherapy because my social life is basically non-existent, but I don't have the money to pay for it. 😢

It’s like... I feel like a ghost walking among people, like nobody actually sees me. Even if I do manage to hang out with someone, it never even gets to the point where we swap numbers. On top of that, I struggle because most people just aren't really my type of person to be friends with. It's not that I'm being picky or anything, I just... I can't find common ground. Maybe it's because I deal with depression and I expect too much from people, I guess. Once, back in summer school, I met my absolute best friend. We were together constantly for fifteen days, and I've never felt that kind of connection before or since. But then we went our separate ways, and since she lives in another state now, we've only seen each other once more. 😢

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.
Christian Richardson9 Christian Richardson9 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#6 ·
Chris Cooper5 said:I don't know, maybe it's just me, but even at college everyone kind of just ignores me. Sometimes when I actually try to say something, people start laughing or they just mock me behind my back. It’s weird. Everyone seems to have these little groups and hangs out constantly, while I’m always just... standing there by myself. I used to talk to this one girl, but she ended up dropping out. Now it feels like everyone is part of this tight-knit crew and they're all tight with each other, except for me.

So, tell me—do you spend your lectures talking to yourself just like you do here on the forums?
People don't really know you yet, and maybe they just aren't used to your specific sense of humor or how you carry yourself...
It definitely sucks when they laugh at you, but honestly, take a second to look back—how did this whole dynamic even start?
Try laughing along with them instead. Don't give them the satisfaction of making you a target; turn it into a shared joke so they're laughing *with* you rather than at you.
As for the gossip? Honestly, look at it this way: if you weren't worth mentioning, they wouldn't bother talking about you at all.
And let's be real—as long as there are people around, there's going to be drama and gossip. That's just life.
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#7 ·
feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

Just picture it. There’s this group of people—I don't even know their names, honestly—just standing there, joking around and messing with each other, and I'm just... there. Standing on the sidelines. And I keep thinking, what if I actually tried to join in? Like, what if I walked up, introduced myself, or maybe just threw in some stupid little comment because that’s really the only way to break the ice, right? How would that even go? Everyone would probably burst out laughing, and I’d just want to sink straight through the floor. And the thing is, this has been going on for six months now. It feels like forever. Everyone else has basically become best friends, acting like they've known each other since kindergarten, while I just watch them every single day without saying a word. Not one word. Then, the other day, two girls come up to me and ask if *they* smell bad. I mean, seriously? Shouldn't I be the one asking them if *I* smell? They're the ones who haven't made an effort to get close to me, not the other way around. So when they finally decide to try and make contact, they do it with a question that ridiculous. I guess I've just given up. 🙄

feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

It’s not even a confidence thing, really. I’ve got plenty of that. It’s just... I don't know, it feels kind of stupid to just dive headfirst into a conversation with a bunch of people you don't actually know. If it were just one person, sure, I could make it work. But they’re always in this big group, and the whole setup of me just wandering up to them to ask something feels pretty ridiculous when you think about it. Plus, they just end up laughing at me.

feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

Nah, I don't think so.😂 I don't know, people laugh at me like it's some big lack of confidence thing, but I honestly think it’s just that people can't handle anyone who's a little different or maybe just isn't on their exact wavelength. Everyone is wired differently, I guess, but where does that leave me? Because, truthfully, about 90% of those people just get under my skin. Like, I’ll walk into a lecture hall and everyone starts snickering. Then you've got certain people making these nasty little comments, like, "Oh, here she comes." And then—this is the part that really sticks—some girl will chime in and say something totally disrespectful to the professor, and the worst part? The professor actually goes, "Alright, now that we're all here, let's get started," like it was perfectly fine. And everyone just rolls around on the floor laughing. All because I walked into the room. It's just... yeah. 🤷

And then, I don't know, I'll catch them staring at me sometimes, and they'll say something and start laughing. So I'll just ask what's so funny, and they're always like, "Oh, nothing, just enjoy yourself..." 🙄
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#8 ·
feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

It’s tough, I guess. There are just so many people like that out there. I’ve noticed lately that whenever I actually try to say something, it feels like everyone is just hovering, waiting for me to shut up so they can jump back in and start fighting again. It’s exhausting. Back when I was at my old college, things were different. People actually welcomed me, and I always had someone to grab a coffee with or just chat with every single day. But now that I've moved to this new city, I don't know a soul, and honestly, it doesn't feel like I'll ever really meet anyone here. Maybe it was just a fluke, though. Maybe those people at my old school were just a lucky group, and this is just how it is.

feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

I met that small circle of friends back in high school. It was easy, I guess. I just fit right in, and everyone accepted me exactly as I was without any fuss. But here? Now? I feel like some kind of alien. And when I say "friends," what I really mean is that I’ve never actually had a best friend in my life. That’s something I carry around, I suppose. I get along fine with people—I'm friendly enough—but honestly, I think I'm at my absolute best when I'm just by myself.

feralheron84 said:Look, most people spend about 95% of their time talking nonsense or just rambling about themselves. Unless you're at some high-level medical symposium, there's an endless supply of things to jump into or chat about. Your issue is really this part right here—it sounds like a lack of confidence is tricking you into thinking a group is somehow "greater" than you. Like they're more valuable, so your take doesn't matter, which then makes you feel like you're being pushy when you actually speak up. Honestly, most people don't even notice if someone is "intruding" unless you're being genuinely annoying, like constantly interrupting or acting like an egomaniac. Just try easing into the conversation slowly without overthinking it. No one’s going to judge you for having an opinion. Once you get comfortable, you'll find it's much easier to bring up topics you actually care about and get others talking about them.

Low self-esteem and skewed perception. Look, unless you're out there dressed like a clown or rolling around on the floor, nobody thinks you’re being ridiculous or stupid. Just realize that people aren't really watching you, nor do they care about your little slip-ups. Even if someone laughs, they're laughing at the situation, not at you, Chris Cooper5. You can see it yourself—they just keep talking amongst themselves... PEOPLE ARE BUSY WITH THEIR OWN LIVES. You're stressing over what others think instead of just focusing on your own head.

It’s not that people talk too much. It’s more that you aren't saying enough. Most folks won't just wait their turn; they’ll stay quiet for a few minutes while you struggle to find your footing. A conversation isn't like a Congressional hearing, you know? There aren't any formal rules. Usually, once you actually start talking, the other person shuts up to listen. If they don't, you can try asking, "May I say something?"—give them a little stern look for emphasis. If they still ignore you, honestly, they aren't worth the effort, though those types are pretty rare. You just have to realize it's usually not that they don't want to hear you, it's just that you *think* they don't. Makes sense? It's kind of like trying to walk around wearing foggy glasses.

REALITY (people who actually want to hang out with you) + DIRTY LENSES (your warped view of the world caused by low self-esteem) = DISTORTED REALITY (thinking nobody wants to be around you and everyone finds you awkward)

The thing is, you’ve got to ditch those glasses. Just start believing that people actually find you interesting and that you have something to offer when you talk.

You do have friends. Maybe not "call them for coffee right this second" friends, but there are people out there willing to connect with you. They're everywhere. You've been on this forum long enough that if you looked closer, a few people would likely step up to hang out.

My advice? Just talk. Talk to anyone—the barista, the cashier, the bus driver. Practice that small talk. Don't just rely on doctors and prescriptions. Take it in tiny steps. And hey, next time, tell us how old you are.

The worst part about all this is that I actually am a social person. I genuinely like people. I can talk to anyone—whether they’re brilliant or just totally clueless. Sometimes I end up talking to nobody at all, but whatever, I usually find my groove pretty fast as long as people aren't being weirdly resistant. Lately, though, everyone seems to be putting up walls for some reason. Maybe it's because I'm ugly or something? Or maybe it's because I wear clothes I find in thrift store bins. My roommate tried introducing me to her friend the other day, and the girl just... turned her head away. Total snub. It's funny, though. One time, some guy was trying to give me directions to a clinic, and we ended up basically sharing our entire life stories right there on the sidewalk. By the time I actually got to the doctor, I was sitting there thinking, *what the hell am I even blabbering about?* But then I ran into that same guy twice the next day, and we just kept chatting. Life is weird like that. But hey, if someone doesn't want to talk, they don't want to talk. Nothing you can do.😂
quietheron6 quietheron6 Newcomer
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#9 ·
You’re basically my twin. I don't really have a crew either—mostly just flying solo at the office—but honestly, I’m not feeling lonely at all. Being your own best friend and teacher is where it's at. If anyone tries to mess with me, I shut that down immediately—no second chances. Besides, why even sweat what people think? You don't know them, and you definitely don't care about them anyway.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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joined Apr 2010
#10 ·
Chris Cooper5 said:Just picture it. There’s this group of people—I don't even know their names, honestly—just standing there, joking around and messing with each other, and I'm just... there. Standing on the sidelines. And I keep thinking, what if I actually tried to join in? Like, what if I walked up, introduced myself, or maybe just threw in some stupid little comment because that’s really the only way to break the ice, right? How would that even go? Everyone would probably burst out laughing, and I’d just want to sink straight through the floor. And the thing is, this has been going on for six months now. It feels like forever. Everyone else has basically become best friends, acting like they've known each other since kindergarten, while I just watch them every single day without saying a word. Not one word. Then, the other day, two girls come up to me and ask if *they* smell bad. I mean, seriously? Shouldn't I be the one asking them if *I* smell? They're the ones who haven't made an effort to get close to me, not the other way around. So when they finally decide to try and make contact, they do it with a question that ridiculous. I guess I've just given up. 🙄

It’s not even a confidence thing, really. I’ve got plenty of that. It’s just... I don't know, it feels kind of stupid to just dive headfirst into a conversation with a bunch of people you don't actually know. If it were just one person, sure, I could make it work. But they’re always in this big group, and the whole setup of me just wandering up to them to ask something feels pretty ridiculous when you think about it. Plus, they just end up laughing at me.

Nah, I don't think so.😂 I don't know, people laugh at me like it's some big lack of confidence thing, but I honestly think it’s just that people can't handle anyone who's a little different or maybe just isn't on their exact wavelength. Everyone is wired differently, I guess, but where does that leave me? Because, truthfully, about 90% of those people just get under my skin. Like, I’ll walk into a lecture hall and everyone starts snickering. Then you've got certain people making these nasty little comments, like, "Oh, here she comes." And then—this is the part that really sticks—some girl will chime in and say something totally disrespectful to the professor, and the worst part? The professor actually goes, "Alright, now that we're all here, let's get started," like it was perfectly fine. And everyone just rolls around on the floor laughing. All because I walked into the room. It's just... yeah. 🤷

And then, I don't know, I'll catch them staring at me sometimes, and they'll say something and start laughing. So I'll just ask what's so funny, and they're always like, "Oh, nothing, just enjoy yourself..." 🙄

Check, did you censor that word yourself, or is this some kind of forum auto-filter? I know some sites won't even let you type the word 'proxy' without automatically replacing it with five asterisks. 🤷

(By the way, that strategy of dropping 14 posts in a row where you're basically replying to yourself or using clones... well, people have an instinct for spotting stuff like that. Especially when combined with what you're saying... 😲)
Rebecca Bennett41 Rebecca Bennett41 Active Member
58 messages
joined Jun 2009
#11 ·
I find myself in much the same predicament; I don't really have any close friends, and in truth, I spend most of my time in solitude. Even here, within this community, I feel as though people don't truly see me or engage with me in the way I would hope to be perceived.
Thomas Howard93 Thomas Howard93 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2009
#12 ·
I'm actually really curious to know which college you're attending... 😳
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
66 messages
joined Dec 2008
#13 ·
quietheron6 said:You’re basically my twin. I don't really have a crew either—mostly just flying solo at the office—but honestly, I’m not feeling lonely at all. Being your own best friend and teacher is where it's at. If anyone tries to mess with me, I shut that down immediately—no second chances. Besides, why even sweat what people think? You don't know them, and you definitely don't care about them anyway.

I guess I'm not really like you. I'm always feeling lonely, and I'm definitely my own worst teacher. And I am not putting a knife to anyone's throat... god forbid. It's not even that I don't care what people think, it's just that I'm freaking lonely and I don't have a best friend. I'm probably not even going to finish my degree because I've stopped showing up. This whole society is just a mess, and this entire country is pretty much screwed. I just sleep all day. I write a little bit on this forum. And honestly, screw people who want to hang out, I just don't have the energy for it. Like, if some girl thinks we're best friends, I've just shut her out. Was that okay? I don't know, and I don't really care.
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
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joined Dec 2008
#14 ·
lonegardener said:Check, did you censor that word yourself, or is this some kind of forum auto-filter? I know some sites won't even let you type the word 'proxy' without automatically replacing it with five asterisks. 🤷

(By the way, that strategy of dropping 14 posts in a row where you're basically replying to yourself or using clones... well, people have an instinct for spotting stuff like that. Especially when combined with what you're saying... 😲)

I don't really see why any of this matters? If there's an issue with asterisks, then maybe a different word should be used instead.

Anyway, I don't get what you're getting at. Why would I write one single post when I can just post 14? What's the problem there? Does posting too much mean I'm out here walking around with a gun trying to kill people? It's kind of like how I could just claim you're only here to mess with people and prove you're right. Which damn right? Everyone can write whatever they want and be right about it. Those are our civil rights and freedoms.
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
66 messages
joined Dec 2008
#15 ·
Thomas Howard93 said:I'm actually really curious to know which college you're attending... 😳

Honestly, don't bother with a math major at a state university... you'll just end up losing your mind and ruining any chance at a real career. 😁

btw people are jerks everywhere, though maybe things aren't too bad here.
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
347 messages
joined Apr 2010
#16 ·
Chris Cooper5 said:I don't really see why any of this matters? If there's an issue with asterisks, then maybe a different word should be used instead.

Anyway, I don't get what you're getting at. Why would I write one single post when I can just post 14? What's the problem there? Does posting too much mean I'm out here walking around with a gun trying to kill people? It's kind of like how I could just claim you're only here to mess with people and prove you're right. Which damn right? Everyone can write whatever they want and be right about it. Those are our civil rights and freedoms.

I was simply sharing my perspective. If you drop fourteen posts in a row, essentially replying to yourself or your own clones who are also replying to themselves... people are going to assume you've lost your mind.

Fair enough, what you said about me holds water, too. 🤷 But what exactly is driving you to be so combative?
feralheron84 feralheron84 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2009
#17 ·
lonegardener said:I was simply sharing my perspective. If you drop fourteen posts in a row, essentially replying to yourself or your own clones who are also replying to themselves... people are going to assume you've lost your mind.

Fair enough, what you said about me holds water, too. 🤷 But what exactly is driving you to be so combative?

Feels like this thread is more of a vent session than an actual cry for help.
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
66 messages
joined Dec 2008
#18 ·
lonegardener said:I was simply sharing my perspective. If you drop fourteen posts in a row, essentially replying to yourself or your own clones who are also replying to themselves... people are going to assume you've lost your mind.

Fair enough, what you said about me holds water, too. 🤷 But what exactly is driving you to be so combative?

Maybe I am a little eccentric, but I haven't "lost it," and if other people see it that way, well, that's on them. I'm smart, I know how to talk to people, I actually like people, and I try to help out where I can. Does that mean I'm crazy?

Do I really have to overhaul my entire personality and change every single opinion I hold just to fit in with everyone else or satisfy some random forum users? I'm just a regular person. If someone asks me something, I answer it. And when there's nobody to talk to, I guess I just talk to myself.

And I'm not being aggressive; you're just totally misreading me. Honestly, you haven't even done anything to me, so why act like this? God, there's never an end to these stupid questions...☕
Chris Cooper5 Chris Cooper5 Active MemberOP
66 messages
joined Dec 2008
#19 ·
feralheron84 said:Feels like this thread is more of a vent session than an actual cry for help.

Well, whatever works, I guess.☕

Anyway, I actually liked your post—it had a decent amount of useful advice in there.👍
lonegardener lonegardener Regular
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joined Apr 2010
#20 ·
Chris Cooper5 said:Maybe I am a little eccentric, but I haven't "lost it," and if other people see it that way, well, that's on them. I'm smart, I know how to talk to people, I actually like people, and I try to help out where I can. Does that mean I'm crazy?

Do I really have to overhaul my entire personality and change every single opinion I hold just to fit in with everyone else or satisfy some random forum users? I'm just a regular person. If someone asks me something, I answer it. And when there's nobody to talk to, I guess I just talk to myself.

And I'm not being aggressive; you're just totally misreading me. Honestly, you haven't even done anything to me, so why act like this? God, there's never an end to these stupid questions...☕

You claim you aren't being aggressive, yet you wrote exactly what you did above. You know the saying, "actions speak louder than words." The tone of your post completely contradicts what you're claiming.

Did I ever actually say you needed to "change your views and character"? You asked why people were avoiding you, and I gave you an answer. Asked & answered. Are you trying to tell me you don't want me responding to you at all? Just say: "stop bothering me," and I'll quit immediately. 🤷

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