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Matthew Parker8 Matthew Parker8 MemberOP
13 messages
joined Oct 2004
#1 ·
Can someone explain why using nasal drops for an extended period is actually harmful?

The woman at the pharmacy told me not to go over 10 days.

I get the part about becoming "addicted"—where your nose stays stuffed up unless you use them—but I’m curious about what else long-term use does to you specifically.

Thanks for the input.
Kevin White5 Kevin White5 Active Member
96 messages
joined Mar 2006
#2 ·
First off, the woman at the pharmacy is a pharmacist, not a doctor. It isn't her job to lecture you on side effects or how to manage specific conditions like allergies or viral infections. That’s what a physician is for.

Second, the whole mechanism behind nasal drops is pretty simple: they constrict the blood vessels in your nasal mucosa. When you have a runny nose, those vessels are dilated.

So... which nasal spray did you actually buy? Tell us the name and we can give you some actual answers.

Sudafed?
Scott Allen10 Scott Allen10 Regular
315 messages
joined Jun 2005
#3 ·
I guess I'm finally getting used to using the nasal sprays, but honestly, if there's one big reason why doctors tell you not to rely on them for more than like a week, it's because they can actually mess up the ciliary epithelium in your nasal lining. It basically leaves the inside of your nose all raw and exposed, which just makes it way too easy for germs to move in and cause trouble.
Matthew Parker8 Matthew Parker8 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2004
#4 ·
Kevin White5 said:First off—the woman at the pharmacy is a pharmacist, not a doctor. She isn't qualified to give medical advice regarding side effects or how to manage specific conditions like allergies or viral infections. That’s a job for a physician.

I get that—but they always tell you how to take the medication anyway. She just told me two or three drops a few times a day, for no more than 10 days.

Kevin White5 said:Second—the whole mechanism of nasal drops is that they constrict the blood vessels in the nasal mucosa—since when your nose is running, those vessels are dilated.

So... it depends on which nasal drops you actually bought. If you tell us that, we can tell you what's going on.

Sudafed?

I was struggling with ragweed allergies, so I used drops (Sudafed) for about 15 or 20 days. Everything seemed fine for about 10 days after that, but then I caught a cold during a trip, and now I haven't been able to function without nasal drops (twice a day) for five days straight.

It's a bit worrying—I feel like I'm just stuck in this endless loop.

Scott Allen10's explanation makes sense now—it's likely the epithelium was damaged by the allergy and the constant use of drops, making me susceptible to catching this cold.

😕

Thanks for the input.

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quietharbor2 quietharbor2 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2003
#5 ·
Kevin White5 said:First off—the woman at the pharmacy is a pharmacist, and she isn't qualified to give medical advice regarding side effects or how to manage specific conditions like allergies or viral infections. That is strictly a doctor's job.

A pharmacist is an expert—they know their drugs, indications, and side effects. In fact, they play a vital role by advising patients on what they are buying (which is why pharmacists sell medication, not bakers) and even reminding us doctors about usage protocols when needed.

And rightfully so, she advised the patient not to use decongestants for more than a week during a cold.

If the nasal inflammation is "vasomotor" in nature, a physician might prescribe long-term vasoconstrictors.

Otherwise, for standard colds, vasoconstrictors are prescribed only briefly—just enough to reduce swelling, allow sinus drainage, and prevent sinus infections or bacterial superinfections.

With vasoconstrictors, the blood vessels eventually "adjust" to a daily dose; once that dose stops—even after the cold is gone—the mucosa produces excess fluid (exudate), leading to a stuffed nose the moment you stop using the drops. A congested nose (swollen mucosa) is, unfortunately, a perfect breeding ground for bacterial infection.

Most viral infections clear up within those seven days of using nasal drops or sprays. If the cold persists, several things could be happening.

1) It might not have been a viral infection at all, but rather an allergy—meaning the nasal mucosa stays inflamed as long as the allergen is present, unless one starts using allergy medication (like antihistamines).

2) A bacterial infection may have already developed, requiring antibiotics.

3) It could be a vasomotor reaction where the mucosa inflames due to temperature changes, alcohol, spices, or emotional stress... one must evaluate if treatment is even necessary and, if so, which class of medication to use.

If the nasal mucosa has already become "accustomed" to drops and sprays, a good way to transition away is using saline solutions—sprays that moisturize the passages and soften mucus to make blowing your nose easier without creating or maintaining a "dependency."

By the way, decongestants can trigger heart arrhythmias, particularly in predisposed individuals. More common side effects include jitteriness, tremors, and peripheral vasoconstriction—which should be avoided in cases of Raynaud's phenomenon...
Matthew Parker8 Matthew Parker8 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2004
#6 ·
quietharbor2, thanks for the breakdown and the advice on how to "wean off"
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
50 messages
joined Jan 2016
#7 ·
Hey there

So, I’ve got this deviated septum hitting me on both sides, which basically means
my airways are constantly slammed shut—I'm practically forced to rely on
nasal sprays pretty much every single day (especially since
the weather turned cold and everything went south). I’m actually planning on getting surgery, but it won't be happening
for at least another year—I have to get my tonsils ripped out first because they
are driving me absolutely insane

The big question is: how bad is it to use these nasal drops all the time?
Is there a specific type that's less harsh? And what exactly is the damage we're talking about when it comes to the side effects (I’ve
heard rumors they totally wreck your mucous membranes)? Also, is there any way to offset that damage
or at least take the edge off while I'm using them, since I honestly can't live without them right now??

Thanks in advance!
Harold Turner2 Harold Turner2 Member
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joined Jan 2007
#8 ·
Look, you shouldn't be using decongestant drops for more than two weeks straight. I know how it goes because I dealt with the exact same thing. I started out relying on drops too, which only ended up wrecking my nasal lining even further.
Most otolaryngologists recommend Ephedrine over stuff like Sudafed. Don't touch the latter. Try to use the drops as infrequently as possible. Personally, I’d rather struggle through breathing with one nostril than continue destroying my already damaged mucosa. Besides, after long-term use, Ephedrine barely works for more than an hour or two once it's applied.
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#9 ·
That’s wild... honestly, I’ve been hitting the Sudafed like it’s my job lately...

I mean, I try to hold off on the nasal sprays until it gets to that point where you literally feel like oxygen can't even squeeze through
your nose anymore—you know that feeling? I’m really trying my best to cut back on them, but man, breathing through my
mouth just kills me....

I’ve been attempting to soothe the lining with some St. John’s Wort oil (my mom is totally into
that herbalist stuff, she's basically an amateur pro at it), but I still think I should ask for some advice on which
sprays are actually worth using...

Also, how am I supposed to tell which ones are actually decongestants?? Like, what's the deal with Benyl? It
helped a ton before, but I heard somewhere that you shouldn't be using it for too long??
Lawrence Wells Lawrence Wells Regular
312 messages
joined Jun 2006
#10 ·
Give Naphazoline nasal drops a shot—just don't overdo it or you'll be using them for more than a week. Honestly, they worked way better for me than Sudafed.
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
50 messages
joined Jan 2016
#11 ·
Look, I’m not even saying there’s an issue with how well the Sudafed works... or Benadryl or anything else
you throw at it... like any nasal spray...
what actually keeps me up at night is the thought of using the same stuff for way too long...
Alex Collins26 Alex Collins26 Member
13 messages
joined Nov 2006
#12 ·
I don't know about you all, but my otolaryngologist suggested that Sudafed might be the better route... I've actually been using it for over 13 years now, pretty much every single day (not trying to brag, just a sad reality, I guess). So far, my nasal lining hasn't been damaged at all, though I suppose I can smell things like Superman 😬, maybe even sense if someone farts from 100 yards away 😁 ...I have been thinking about surgery, but nothing is set in stone yet... mostly I just feel like what works long-term really depends on the individual person...
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
50 messages
joined Jan 2016
#13 ·
So, I just got back from the pharmacy, and they were telling me that Benyl is actually much gentler
on your nasal lining compared to Sudafed. They also mentioned there are some serious limits
on how often you should use Ephedrine.
The only real recommendation they gave me was to use Benyl at 0.5%, paired up with
a saline spray and some kind of dex-something additive...
It’s this spray called "Mar," and apparently, it’s the only one that has that dex**** stuff which coats the lining
with some kind of protective layer...

@Alex Collins26—13 years!!! Have you actually had a specialist look at your nasal lining yet?? Is it even
possible to get a proper exam to figure out if there’s actual damage
to the mucosa??
Alex Collins26 Alex Collins26 Member
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joined Nov 2006
#14 ·
I make it a point to see my Otolaryngologist once a year. I have a deviated septum, so to actually breathe properly, I have to rely on nasal drops... it's not like my doctor is exactly thrilled about it 😬, but since I’m using them anyway, he suggested Sudafed over Benyl. Personally, I think Naphazoline and Naphazoline are basically the same junk... that saline spray is fine, I guess, but it doesn't really clear anything out 👎. Usually, when I have a massive cold, nothing in the world seems to work, so I just switch to those marshmallow root drops and end up using them every thirty minutes or so... I suppose you just learn to live with it 🙂 ...I suspect that after my surgery, I might have to deal with some kind of withdrawal period given how long I've been at this, but I'll worry about that later.
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#15 ·
I’m in the exact same boat... I mean, I’m basically reaching for my nasal spray about 6 out of every 7 days just to feel like I can actually
breathe... things aren't quite as brutal in the summer because whenever I hit the beach and go for a swim, the salt water helps clear
out my sinuses a bit...

I know what you mean about the ocean water—honestly, it doesn't do much for me when it comes to actually opening things up,
but the pharmacist mentioned that specific supplement (it was dex-something, I can't quite recall the name) is supposed to help
protect the mucous membranes...

My mom swears by St. John's Wort oil, so I’ve been dabbling in that a little bit too...

I'm honestly pretty pumped to just get the surgery over with, but like I said, I'm looking at waiting at least another year
or so 😢

How many times a day are you using the drops??

And what's the deal with those marshmallow root drops?? Do they cause congestion? I'm always down for
the natural route if there's an option...
Alex Collins26 Alex Collins26 Member
13 messages
joined Nov 2006
#16 ·
shadowviper12 said:How many times a day do you use the drops??

Maybe 4 or 5 times, though sometimes more and sometimes less. I guess I end up using them more often when I'm in stuffy rooms...

shadowviper12 said:And what kind of marshmallow root drops are those? Do they clog your nose up?? I'm always down for
a natural option if there is one..

Well, you could just pick up some marshmallow root at the grocery store or a pharmacy (there are a few $2.25 brands) and it'll tell you how to use it—like if you're making tea versus using it as a solution for nasal drops, or whatever... mostly people use that for little kids when their noses are stuffed up. But I wouldn't expect any miracles...
shadowviper12 shadowviper12 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#17 ·
hmm... I usually cap it at twice a day... at most...

Honestly, I'd rather deal with some herbal drops seventeen times a day than have to use Sudafed even once...
I just need stuff that actually clears things out...

The absolute worst part is when I go to blow my nose and everything just slams shut—
like, the pressure from blowing gets so intense that it spikes my sinus pressure and then my head starts throbbing too...

I think I'll give the marshmallow root a shot and see how it goes...

thanks for the help...
mistybison mistybison Regular
495 messages
joined Aug 2008
#18 ·
shadowviper12 said:Which type is the safest to use?

"Olynth" (Xylometazoline). I have used these occasionally for years—just a drop or two before bed—and my nasal passages remain in excellent condition. They aren't known to be addictive like Naphazoline, for instance.
mistybison mistybison Regular
495 messages
joined Aug 2008
#19 ·
shadowviper12 said:I just left the pharmacy, and they assured me that Benyl is quite gentle.
Regarding the nasal mucosa and Sudafed, they also mention that there are restrictions on Ephedrine.
Currently in use.
The only recommendation I received was to use Benadryl at 0.5% along with...
It’s a saline spray combined with some sort of dexamethasone derivative.
That's the "Mar" spray, and it's supposedly the only one containing that specific dexamethasone to coat the nasal lining.
With some form of protection...

@Alex Collins26 Thirteen years!!! Have you had any kind of mucosal examination? Is it actually happening?
It is certainly possible to undergo a comprehensive examination to determine if any damage has actually occurred.
How are your mucous membranes holding up?

An otolaryngologist can handle that examination quite easily. 🙂 Have you considered getting checked out by a specialist? You might be dealing with seasonal allergies that require specific treatment. I am currently following a regimen of medications and nasal sprays, which has been incredibly effective; even with a deviated septum in my right nostril, I rarely find myself needing any extra drops.

Ephedrine acts similarly to Naphazoline, though its effects don't last nearly as long. As for Marisol, that saltwater spray is really just meant for moisturizing the nasal passages.
Harold Turner2 Harold Turner2 Member
21 messages
joined Jan 2007
#20 ·
mistybison said:An otolaryngologist can handle that exam without any trouble. 🙂

How exactly does that work?

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