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Bingo. Herzog, Angelopoulos, and Tarr. I say that because I’ve been lucky enough to actually experience their work firsthand, not just watch them on a screen in some theater. They deal in a kind of madness—not true insanity, but art that most people simply fail to grasp (though they all approach it from wildly different angles). For them, aesthetics isn't just some garnish tossed on at the end; it’s baked into the very first line of the script. Most bureaucrats wouldn't get it, because these films aren't made in sterile studios—they happen on location. In the case of Tarr, even his partner—who handles the editing—is right there on set helping steer the ship. He even goes so far as to list Werckmeister... as having a crew of 7 or 8 camera operators.

thanks. 🙂 I’m a huge fan of Herzog and Tarr, though I only recently started getting into Angelopoulos
(it all started during this year's lockdown, when his work hit me harder than almost any movie in a long time).

NP, Scott again:

farmer in the city

Mind if I jump in... Thanks for clearing that up! I’m not super well-versed in all the references, but I think I get where the criticisms are coming from. I didn't walk away feeling like she was pushing some specific thesis or trying to sneak in an agenda—you know, presenting her vision as some definitive "document of its time" or whatever. I'm with Lisa Davis46 on that one. It might be a bit of a clunky comparison, but the execution reminds me of Phantom Thread—it's about how the story is told. To me, it doesn't really matter what the core inspiration was or what PTA was pulling from; he just used that era and setting to lay out his own layered artistic vision. You've got the painting here, the dresses there 😁, a couple of intense characters on both sides, all this psychological maneuvering, and the whole idea of the artist as a destructive creator. Both films have that same sense of sterility and restraint—that meticulous weaving—and, obviously, they look gorgeous. Maybe I'm totally off base, but hey, that's why I'm here to chat. 😁

Lisa Davis46 said:Honestly, even yesterday wasn't a problem for me. Or maybe I just saw so many high-quality, moving parts that I couldn't objectively process everything so soon. For instance, I remember being so frustrated right after leaving the theater when I saw that movie about the other Adele.
It felt like a middle-aged man's take on a romance between two women, shot almost like a... well, you know...

I totally get it. I have mixed feelings about this one too. That occasionally obvious "male gaze" didn't quite sit right with me either, but on the flip side, I thought it was careful and detailed enough in portraying relationship dynamics and certain character traits that felt genuinely convincing. A friend of mine actually ended a toxic relationship because, after seeing the film, she realized her own situation was basically Adele zamusan from spaghetti 😁
. I saw it a long time ago and only once, so I can't be super specific, but I do remember there was definitely some "life" in that film.

NP teenage Snuff film, finally 🎉... so tomorrow before work, I'll probably drop another little comment!

Seriously

I'm going to cut this whole serious debate short.

Richard Fox63 said:Man, that sounds like an absolute dream vacation. :)
If things go south just a little bit more and some confused soul decides to start playing around somewhere, then it’s game over.

🙏🤣 Exactly.
It’s pure bliss, honestly. I made a wish, and now I can truly say that sinking into that deep, total immersion brings a sense of absolute happiness and complete euphoria.

Richard Fox63 said:Instead of hitting the coast this summer, I decided to grab my bike and head out on an eight-day trek through the Midwest, and by some stroke of pure luck, this song ended up blasting from my portable speaker as one of the biggest hits of the trip. : D
I spent two days idling away in some small town along the Mississippi, and while watching the sunrise over the river, I witnessed one of the most breathtaking mornings of my life. It turns out that Mexican immigrants, through no fault of their own, have become one of the first things that comes to mind when I think of the Mississippi. 😁
It was alright, really. It was fine. 🙂

Man, those Danube Mariachi tracks are just something else! 🙂

Richard Fox63 said:Guess what just crossed my mind?
The assassination of Jesse James was such a messy, dishonorable affair that it honestly makes me wonder if anyone in the Old West actually possessed an ounce of integrity. It’s one of those historical tragedies that just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, especially when you consider how predictably hollow the whole thing turned out to be.
My obsession with outlaws actually traces all the way back to my high school days. 😁

AHAHHAAA! 🤣 😍 Yeah. Look, that's exactly it. I can't quite make sense of what you're trying to show me here, as the link isn't working properly on my end. It’s a bit frustrating when technology decides to be difficult right when you actually have something to say.

sofa Surfers - i Asked for Water

Just taking it easy. 😳

Jamie Davis9 said:I suppose we’re starting now? them 🤣

God, they’re geniuses for that—seriously. :D The way it spun while they were singing... just haunting. :S

wiredmason61 said:I’m looking for a beach house—is everything already booked up? ☕🙄

No way. You better go check out those coal miners. :D

Jason Mendoza said:Cleansing.

Man, this is actually great.

wiredmason61 said:Evergreen? Not really. ...

🙂

Jamie Davis9 said:The Sopranos Lexicon.

Morphine. 🙂

haha, useful enough

Arthur Brown6 said:BACH LIVES MATTER!

🙏

Steven Newman50 said:Jam loves jam

That kept popping up on my Last.fm feed🤣

wiredmason61 said:np Medeski Martin & Wood - Hypnotized ............

🙂

jaga

Morning vibes with some Silvery Sometimes...

Esoteric Warfare

It’s been a week already, and it’s still holding up pretty well:

Intro dive + time and space
☼☾

Charlie Hunter - Who put you behind the wheel

The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army

Horror epics

Slow, sunny, and humid Sunday afternoon,
just one for staying inside with the plants and the dogs:

The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army, the songwriter's guild 😍

Talking in tongues is easy when you know how,
Quite pleasing, but still nothing works out right.
Pressurized lungs, heart bleeding, you'd better slow down
And show that you can make it through the night.

I absolutely hate this sticky, humid weather; I’m just counting down the days until fall and winter roll around, because that's when I actually feel alive.

Since the weather is such a slog, I figured I'd lean into some heavy stoner riffs to match the mood.

Sleep

Jamie Davis9 said:A buddy of mine who does window washing up in Seattle just reached out, and honestly, he’s loving life up there right now. He even mentioned how much he’s going to miss the crowds, because once he realizes that down here in Texas, we won't have any tourists left this summer, he's probably going to be hit by a massive wave of nostalgia.
Texas sun

I was actually getting my hopes up about all this four months ago, but once I finally arrived, the vibe was just completely off. Then some higher power intervened, and for a while now, it's been blissfully empty around here. We only really put up with those few 😁 outliers.

Anyway, I'll be heading back to New York in a few days._))

George Washington

It’s been nearly a decade since I last touched any code, but I guess I’ve finally managed to hunt down a decent soundtrack to get me back in the zone.

The decline — how Disney lost its way

Steven Newman50 said:Highly recommended. 👍

Thanks. From what I've heard so far from the album, it sounds pretty solid.

Chloe Wilson46 said:That’s lovely. You still remember exactly what I like. :)

Of course we did. We’ve swapped enough music around here that you don't just forget someone else's taste that easily. 🙂

Ashley Grant66 said:No problem. Black rice. A song, an album, and an album cover that’ll never get old. :cerek :

What a reminder!
It’s been a long time since I listened to them. Eyesore is my second favorite, though.

Jamie Davis9 said:It’s pure bliss. I made a wish, and honestly? It actually happened. There’s nothing quite like that feeling of total, absolute euphoria when I dive deep into it.

Glad you're enjoying yourself. Go ahead. 🙂

Well, there it is. View on imgur

Killer photo. Looks like a decent brew, haha.
Such a great memory. 🙂

Drew Lewis2 said:just vibing 😳

Easy there, buddy 🧐

Jason Mendoza said:given how gloomy the weather is, I could use some heavy stoner doom.
Bongripper

Link seems dead. Honestly, I wouldn't mind something heavy for a change 😁

Since we're talking about outlaws 😍
I'm looking forward to this. I've fallen a bit behind and only recently started digging into Shepherd... The guy can't miss, even if he tried. It's basically written in stone.

Lately, I've been looping an old favorite singer-songwriter. It always hits that soothing spot for me. 🙂

Damien Jurado - Metallic Cloud

Richard Fox63 said:Looks like the link is dead, which is a shame because I was actually in the mood for something heavy for once. 😁

happened back in this stretch 👍

Sim returns. 😁 Two weeks of living the quiet life out in rural Montana—pure zen. I could probably go longer, but they wouldn't let me... 😬

Jamie Davis9 said:...
Have fun! I'm actually heading back home to my hometown in a few days too...
p.s. sorry about the random music and stage rants every now and then, that’s just Jamie Davis9 talking, not me... 🤷 Jamie Davis9 is a whole concept. : trep :

p.p.s. man, this is actually good: just keep your memes to yourself... 🤦‍♂️ 😂

No kidding. It's actually good... :D

🤣 Mimi's doing great! And thanks! 🙂 Hope you're digging it too... 🙂

I don't feel like digging up that old thread right now, but I gotta brag—I’ve actually made it out to the local monument a few times lately. We were working on some stuff and ended up wandering around looking for the right spot... and so on. Personally, I think the monument is pretty cool. Then again, I'm basically a relic from a different era anyway; even just a random trip to a shooting range about ten years ago was enough to stick in my memory forever... 🧐

Drew Lewis2 said:...
No way. Go check out those absolute clowns... :D

😛 Nothing went down at the local diner...

jaga

I know this one's alright, but I'll probably just stick to listening to the rest over the next few days. Anyway... 😁

Billy Martin featuring Marc Ribot - Home Beat Home ...