Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Just a bunch of slackers and losers—if you actually read the bio—who apparently have nothing better to do than roam the streets looking for trouble because some punk felt emboldened by the Republican Party thieves taking power. What kind of crowd protests in the middle of a weekday, right at noon?

Anthony Jackson2 said:Just a bunch of slackers and losers—if you actually read the bio—who apparently have nothing better to do than roam the streets looking for trouble because some punk felt emboldened by the Republican Party thieves taking power. What kind of crowd protests in the middle of a weekday, right at noon?

I won't bother digging through the profiles of these protesters and rebels, but one thing makes zero sense to me. You won your war. You have your own independent nation with a minimal Mexican population, your own coat of arms, your flag, and everything you claim to have fought centuries to achieve. And yet, all it takes is some nonsense, some tiny spark, and thousands of idiots pull their old military uniforms and flags out of the closet to go protest against Mexicans who—get this—aren't even there. They aren't a factor in America. If they actually had a say or were given the chance, I bet they’d start a war again in a heartbeat. But against whom?

Short and sweet: massive inferiority complexes.

Gregory Chavez said:Wait, hold on. Let me get this straight—thousands of people actually hit the streets today?!?!?! All to support some idiot on a TV show who basically called for a state of emergency because he claimed some extremist group was operating near an Orthodox church in downtown Washington, D.C.???! And then he tells the entire nation to watch their backs so those same extremists don't slaughter them?!?!?!

Unbelievable. It’s 2016. 🤣🤣🤣🙏

Look, calling people rioters is definitely stupid, or at least a terrible way to put it. But honestly? That Mexican priest in Washington, D.C. brought this on himself. Nobody forced him to sing those militia songs.

mellowotter36 said:Look, calling people rioters is definitely stupid, or at least a terrible way to put it. But honestly? That Mexican priest in Washington, D.C. brought this on himself. Nobody forced him to sing those militia songs.

Perhaps that singer should be brought back to reality, whether through subtle persuasion or more direct means. I am not particularly familiar with his entire discography, so is this specific song really what he is being held accountable for?

If we label him an insurgent based solely on this one track, does that mean everyone shouting old nationalist slogans is automatically branded a fascist? I suspect that is the assumption, at least according to the logic used by protesters. Or what about those who, during rallies, enthusiastically sing along to various lighthearted tunes associated with that movement?

Are we expected to ban both types of expression, or just one?

mellowotter36 said:Look, calling people rioters is definitely stupid, or at least a terrible way to put it. But honestly? That Mexican priest in Washington, D.C. brought this on himself. Nobody forced him to sing those militia songs.

I don't want this to look like I'm just protecting my own, and frankly, I feel bad for any Orthodox priest involved—but does singing a Royalist song really justify thousands of people taking to the streets in protest?

Also, is it actually illegal under U.S. law to sing or glorify the Royalists?

Btw,
from what I can tell, the guy with the beard is a Washington, D.C. priest. He barely even opens his mouth. You can practically see how uncomfortable he is.

The protest isn't actually about the priest. It’s because that local news station got slapped with a three-day broadcast ban following those comments. That footage surfaced six months ago. Look, I don't want anyone thinking I'm defending them—I can't stand that station anyway😬. It's basically just a mouthpiece for Bandić and Mamić.

I'm not entirely certain, but I believe singing those extremist songs or displaying those specific symbols is illegal here in America, much like any fascist imagery. However, this wasn't even filmed in the States; it happened in Chicago.

mellowotter36 said:The protest isn't actually about the priest. It’s because that local news station got slapped with a three-day broadcast ban following those comments. That footage surfaced six months ago. Look, I don't want anyone thinking I'm defending them—I can't stand that station anyway😬. It's basically just a mouthpiece for Bandić and Mamić.

I'm not entirely certain, but I believe singing those extremist songs or displaying those specific symbols is illegal here in America, much like any fascist imagery. However, this wasn't even filmed in the States; it happened in Chicago.

Bottom line: the singing didn't happen in America, but that idiot anchor knows there are Mexicans in Washington, D.C., standing outside Orthodox churches ready to commit atrocities against children. 🤣🙏
Then, based on nothing but racist and fascist slogans with zero evidence or basis, thousands of protesters rise up to defend "media freedom" against what they claim are large Mexican phalanxes. 🤣🙏

mellowotter36 said:The protest isn't actually about the priest. It’s because that local news station got slapped with a three-day broadcast ban following those comments. That footage surfaced six months ago. Look, I don't want anyone thinking I'm defending them—I can't stand that station anyway😬. It's basically just a mouthpiece for Bandić and Mamić.

I'm not entirely certain, but I believe singing those extremist songs or displaying those specific symbols is illegal here in America, much like any fascist imagery. However, this wasn't even filmed in the States; it happened in Chicago.

That’s why I asked.

If it's a crime, then people should be held criminally liable. But how do you prosecute something that happened a year ago and was filmed in Chicago? 🤣

The real question is: what do we do with the people shouting those other extremist slogans?

Gregory Chavez said:Bottom line: the singing didn't happen in America, but that idiot anchor knows there are Mexicans in Washington, D.C., standing outside Orthodox churches ready to commit atrocities against children. 🤣🙏
Then, based on nothing but racist and fascist slogans with zero evidence or basis, thousands of protesters rise up to defend "media freedom" against what they claim are large Mexican phalanxes. 🤣🙏

That’s why I asked.

If it's a crime, then people should be held criminally liable. But how do you prosecute something that happened a year ago and was filmed in Chicago? 🤣

The real question is: what do we do with the people shouting those other extremist slogans?

That's just an old-school patriotic salute used by true patriots. Fact. ☕

Gregory Chavez said:I don't want this to look like I'm just protecting my own, and frankly, I feel bad for any Orthodox priest involved—but does singing a Royalist song really justify thousands of people taking to the streets in protest?

Also, is it actually illegal under U.S. law to sing or glorify the Royalists?

Btw,
from what I can tell, the guy with the beard is a Washington, D.C. priest. He barely even opens his mouth. You can practically see how uncomfortable he is.

Yeah, we basically tamed him a bit so he won't dare sing, otherwise he would 😉

If you ask me, do those songs really have to be sung, especially by church officials? It's not that I'm defending those thousands of protesters, but 🙄

Adam Williams2 said:Yeah, we basically tamed him a bit so he won't dare sing, otherwise he would 😉

If you ask me, do those songs really have to be sung, especially by church officials? It's not that I'm defending those thousands of protesters, but 🙄

Singing those hateful nationalist anthems is just as disgusting as this. I’m not making excuses for the priest, but they should probably start by cleaning out the trash in their own backyard first—and let's face it, that trash has multiplied. Obsessing over what some priest is singing in Chicago instead of dealing with his own mess is like claiming to support fair and prosperous policies while voting for the Republican Party. It's retarded.

Adam Williams2 said:Yeah, we basically tamed him a bit so he won't dare sing, otherwise he would 😉

If you ask me, do those songs really have to be sung, especially by church officials? It's not that I'm defending those thousands of protesters, but 🙄

Of course they don't. They're singing about some guys like Djujic and Kalabic from freaking 1945. Give me a break. 🙏
But honestly, that’s exactly the tragedy for the people in this region—even in 2016, they're still obsessed with dividing everyone into which faction they belonged to during the war.

The average person is just struggling to get by, constantly worrying about their next paycheck or how much more expensive the utility bills will be this month. Then you see these mediocre types protesting because someone dared to touch something related to "what our veterans fought and bled for."

Let's be clear—those supporters of the old extremist movements are just as bad.

Bata popped in to stir up some trouble on Offside Chat, and honestly, back in the day, the old crew would’ve shut him down immediately—his politics, his rhetoric, all of it. But instead, you guys are just sitting here sucking up and cheering him on. 🙄

Just bow down, I guess. 😉

I don't think he understands how thousands of people feel, and frankly, I don't get a lot of things either—like where everyone stands on the other side of the border or all those nastier issues. Still, I've never felt the urge to jump onto those foreign forums to ask them what their deal is, not even just for kicks or out of boredom. That’s just me, I guess. ☕

And yeah, sure, go ahead and attack Thompson since he's the first thing mentioned, then move on to the historical factions, the rebels, the partisans... just keep fighting amongst yourselves over left versus right until you finally conclude that politics is a mess and someone is dividing us, for the five millionth time. 🙏

Adam Williams2 said:Bata popped in to stir up some trouble on Offside Chat, and honestly, back in the day, the old crew would’ve shut him down immediately—his politics, his rhetoric, all of it. But instead, you guys are just sitting here sucking up and cheering him on. 🙄

Just bow down, I guess. 😉

I don't think he understands how thousands of people feel, and frankly, I don't get a lot of things either—like where everyone stands on the other side of the border or all those nastier issues. Still, I've never felt the urge to jump onto those foreign forums to ask them what their deal is, not even just for kicks or out of boredom. That’s just me, I guess. ☕

And yeah, sure, go ahead and attack Thompson since he's the first thing mentioned, then move on to the historical factions, the rebels, the partisans... just keep fighting amongst yourselves over left versus right until you finally conclude that politics is a mess and someone is dividing us, for the five millionth time. 🙏

And what exactly is my rhetoric?

By the way,
you answered your own question. I just had to bait you into it. 🙂

Adam Williams2 said:Bata popped in to stir up some trouble on Offside Chat, and honestly, back in the day, the old crew would’ve shut him down immediately—his politics, his rhetoric, all of it. But instead, you guys are just sitting here sucking up and cheering him on. 🙄

Just bow down, I guess. 😉

I don't think he understands how thousands of people feel, and frankly, I don't get a lot of things either—like where everyone stands on the other side of the border or all those nastier issues. Still, I've never felt the urge to jump onto those foreign forums to ask them what their deal is, not even just for kicks or out of boredom. That’s just me, I guess. ☕

And yeah, sure, go ahead and attack Thompson since he's the first thing mentioned, then move on to the historical factions, the rebels, the partisans... just keep fighting amongst yourselves over left versus right until you finally conclude that politics is a mess and someone is dividing us, for the five millionth time. 🙏

Mexicans show up on an American forum asking questions they shouldn't be asking. Honestly, what are they even doing in America? 🙂
Actually, why do they even exist? 🙂

@Adam Williams2, I’m not planning on it. Honestly, I’ve realized this is just one of those arenas where proving anything to anyone is a lost cause, regardless of which side they're on. I'm buried in work right now, so I just dropped my take during the break. Cheers.

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there, but honestly, who's going to divide us anyway? 🤣 😁

Of course, just like always, we're nowhere near the center of things, but hey, go ahead and be the victim if you want. 😁

Adam Williams2 said:Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there, but honestly, who's going to divide us anyway? 🤣 😁

Of course, just like always, we're nowhere near the center of things, but hey, go ahead and be the victim if you want. 😁

Why do you people keep coming at me all these years with this "who's dividing us" nonsense when I have absolutely nothing to do with those types?

I come from a completely different background entirely. 🤣

By the way,
why are you acting so offended just because I asked—in a perfectly polite and civil manner—what on earth possessed these idiots to show up in such massive numbers to protest some moron being sidelined over racist slogans?

It’s not that I’m defending a Mexican, but...

Gregory Chavez said:Why do you people keep coming at me all these years with this "who's dividing us" nonsense when I have absolutely nothing to do with those types?

I come from a completely different background entirely. 🤣

By the way,
why are you acting so offended just because I asked—in a perfectly polite and civil manner—what on earth possessed these idiots to show up in such massive numbers to protest some moron being sidelined over racist slogans?

And where exactly is this "melting pot" looking? Toward New York or toward some small town in the Midwest? Don't be silly, you all belong to the same crowd. 😁

Yeah, I did feel insulted. Maybe if some polite, decent guy from a truly classy country asked me something like that, I might have felt embarrassed for my own people. But since I can't think of any country that isn't dealing with its own mess, and your little faction within the country doesn't fit my idea of "decent" either, I just don't get it. Every time some outsider comes along asking what's wrong with us or what we're doing, I'm supposed to feel ashamed and explain to you that we aren't actually like that.🙄

But honestly, maybe we are, and maybe worse. We've been fighting amongst ourselves and dealing with corruption for ages. But man, let me tell you, it makes my stomach turn when people from the outside act like they want to "help" us find the right path, or when people here try to justify it using those same excuses...

The same logic would apply to Germans, the British, the French, or anyone else—you've got your own problems to deal with. So, when you say, "But you're a Mexican," just forget it. That's not the point. 😉

Gregory Chavez said:I don't want this to look like I'm just protecting my own, and frankly, I feel bad for any Orthodox priest involved—but does singing a Royalist song really justify thousands of people taking to the streets in protest?

Also, is it actually illegal under U.S. law to sing or glorify the Royalists?

Btw,
from what I can tell, the guy with the beard is a Washington, D.C. priest. He barely even opens his mouth. You can practically see how uncomfortable he is.

If you actually believe that five thousand people would bother getting off their couches to protest over a single song, then you’re even more naive than those sheep who blindly vote for the Republican Party. I truly hope you don't have dual citizenship or any way to cast a vote here in America, unlike so many other outsiders who act as a total weight around our necks during a coup.

Adam Williams2 said:And where exactly is this "melting pot" looking? Toward New York or toward some small town in the Midwest? Don't be silly, you all belong to the same crowd. 😁

Yeah, I did feel insulted. Maybe if some polite, decent guy from a truly classy country asked me something like that, I might have felt embarrassed for my own people. But since I can't think of any country that isn't dealing with its own mess, and your little faction within the country doesn't fit my idea of "decent" either, I just don't get it. Every time some outsider comes along asking what's wrong with us or what we're doing, I'm supposed to feel ashamed and explain to you that we aren't actually like that.🙄

But honestly, maybe we are, and maybe worse. We've been fighting amongst ourselves and dealing with corruption for ages. But man, let me tell you, it makes my stomach turn when people from the outside act like they want to "help" us find the right path, or when people here try to justify it using those same excuses...

The same logic would apply to Germans, the British, the French, or anyone else—you've got your own problems to deal with. So, when you say, "But you're a Mexican," just forget it. That's not the point. 😉

By rejecting us—your well-meaning neighbors—you're just staying trapped by the past, squeezed by the issues that surfaced during this transition period.

You need to explain to a simple guy like me, in plain English, what those radicals are actually doing on the streets this Monday.

I'm your neighbor, just across the Mississippi—watching you from my own front porch.🤣

Jason Anderson4 said:If you actually believe that five thousand people would bother getting off their couches to protest over a single song, then you’re even more naive than those sheep who blindly vote for the Republican Party. I truly hope you don't have dual citizenship or any way to cast a vote here in America, unlike so many other outsiders who act as a total weight around our necks during a coup.

I don't even have a passport—Edge79 promised to help me out, but nothing has happened yet.😢