Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

A decent VPN actually costs money 😳

Don't even ask me for the specifics, I don't use one myself—just keeping it 901 to 908 for you, man.

Carol Lewis said:My absolute favorite story has to be that one guy from rural Pennsylvania—I think it was back in the late 90s—who spent his entire day drinking some local version of a heavy malt liquor with his wife and son, and then he just completely lost it that night and killed her because he genuinely thought she was a fox...

Well, if there actually was a fox involved, what can you say?

Not that I'm making excuses for him.

brightpilot6 said:So what are people actually discussing? They just ask "did you see that?" and shake their heads in disbelief. The media outlets are absolutely flooded with this stuff because, at the end of the day, they're just chasing clicks.

Speculating about some deep-seated external causes feels like nothing more than pure hysteria; are we really expected to believe that every spoiled kid out there is suddenly a potential killer?

And what exactly are they supposed to shake?
With a katana?

brightpilot6 said:So what are people actually discussing? They just ask "did you see that?" and shake their heads in disbelief. The media outlets are absolutely flooded with this stuff because, at the end of the day, they're just chasing clicks.

Speculating about some deep-seated external causes feels like nothing more than pure hysteria; are we really expected to believe that every spoiled kid out there is suddenly a potential killer?

Look, ZZ, we don't have to troll every single thing. It’s not like we're playing in some minor league recreational game. 😁

People are actually discussing the case, and it's way more complicated than just "shaking their heads." But whatever. I was just saying there's actually plenty to talk about here.

This is just like when it happened in the VB16: ''Nobody's talking about this except the trolls on Reddit.'' 🤦

The media is full of clickbait garbage, sure, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have an opinion on this specific situation.

It's not like the media overreacts to everything. If we can all sit around debating what suit Lionel Messi wore to the Golden Ball ceremony, I don't see why we can't talk about an actual event that matters to society.

Speculating about outside causes is just fearmongering. What now, every spoiled brat is a potential killer?

I don't think anyone mentioning "spoiled kids" in cases like this is trying to generalize that much.

Speculating about anything is fearmongering.

Besides, nothing was being said on Offside Chat anyway. I don't know why you jumped straight to that attitude. When I mentioned I hadn't seen any comments on the forum yet, you were basically the first one to start trolling. You could've just stayed quiet if that's how you feel.

I’m not trying to troll anyone, I just find it difficult to have a meaningful "debate" when we're dealing with such a specific subject.

Preventing crime on a general level and identifying psychopaths early on are two entirely different conversations.

It’s all connected, man. At the end of the day, the commentary always leans that way. The whole universe runs on cause and effect.

Quick question though, have you checked out Drive ? That main character's breakdown at the end?

We can stick to talking about the actual football side of things, because that’s where we actually know our stuff, and honestly, that’s the only way our takes actually carry any weight.
When I first saw the news, my immediate thought was that there's a pretty good chance the kid is just a massive PSG fan. Look, it isn't exactly easy to bottle up all that frustration you feel after getting absolutely robbed by a bad call from the refs.

Noah Roberts46 said:To be honest, I’m not entirely sure how much weight parents carry in this equation. Maybe they bear the brunt of responsibility for poor upbringing, but if you ask me, society plays a massive role in shaping young people. You see plenty of parents doing everything by the book, yet because there's such a concentrated pool of idiots out there today, some perfectly decent kids fall in with the wrong crowd and turn into completely different people within a year. I'm speaking generally here, not specifically about this case.

What really gets under my skin are these self-righteous crusaders who spend all their time trashing the country and complaining about crime, only to turn around and steal or act like thugs themselves, hurting people who are just trying to earn an honest living. They pose as these pillars of morality—there are plenty of them among the hooligans, especially those who are against Mamić (and look, I am 100% on their side regarding him)—but then they go off to cause trouble in some local bar or jump someone just for looking at them sideways. What does Mamić have to do with that?

It's all about upbringing. Just upbringing, period.

rapidstag2 said:What, are you lacking a toothpick or something?

P.S. Don't go losing sleep over hooligans; it’s not like you're actually attending the games anyway. 😁

🤣

Walter Grant5 said:I’ll never get it. There’s zero substance here, yet somehow this has been the biggest thing everyone in America has talked about for the last five days.

What kills me is how everyone is suddenly playing the sympathy card for the parents. If this guy had taken out two other people instead, they’d be busy pinning all the blame on them.

To be honest, neither I nor anyone I know has really commented on this. I don't follow those kinds of news stories, so I didn't even realize anything had happened. I've seen enough people in my life to know there are all sorts out there, so these things don't really shock me. I suppose the people who could do the most to prevent a tragedy like this are the ones closest to the perpetrator. It doesn't just happen that someone wakes up one morning, looks out the window, and decides, "Okay, I'm going to kill someone." It doesn't work like that; it's usually the culmination of something building up for a long time. It's kind of like those incidents in the US where people target schools or movie theaters. Afterward, everyone acts surprised, saying, "No one would ever imagine that," when the guy has likely spent months holed up in his room, gathering guns and ammo—maybe just for hunting something small... 🙄

Actually, it's the exact same story for Sunjerga regarding the police report here:

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"He confessed to what he did. He had his own motives, but that's more a matter for the defense at this point. He seems like just an ordinary, average guy to me, and his motives and reasons... they're hard to understand," said Baica.
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Well, I don't think so. Maybe we should just call it what it really is.

It’s honestly pretty tough to spot a psychopath unless you really take the time to sit there and study them for a while... but this guy was basically screaming "I'm a total psycho" just through his Facebook photos

I read somewhere that you can spot a potential psychopath just by looking at their eyes. Apparently, if the eyes sit too high above the white part, it's a red flag. I'm not sure how much scientific weight there is to it, but after reading that, I looked up photos of famous serial killers and they all had that exact look—eyes positioned way above the sclera.



Obviously, you shouldn't generalize based on one trait, but it's an interesting bit of info.

Look, Roby, I don't even follow this kind of stuff. I commented just like everyone else because the news hit hard—partly due to what happened and partly because the media went nuts. Plus, being close to the area, it's hard to ignore.

That’s why I say there isn't much "to discuss" here. People just waste their breath on mindless nonsense. Society shouldn't just turn a blind eye to things like this; if anything, we need to be more aware of our own flaws that end up dragging everyone down.

And just so we're clear, what you quoted wasn't a police statement, it was from the lawyer.

But yeah, I agree, he doesn't seem like your average guy. Sure, everyone has bad moments, but looking at the info out there and those photos Carol Lewis posted—which definitely show a pattern—everything points to him being far from ordinary.

his profile is basically a joke—it’s not even a real pattern. apparently, anyone under 24 or over 16 is considered some kind of "high-risk" profile now, right?

Paul Sanders5 said:A decent VPN actually costs money 😳

Don't even ask me for the specifics, I don't use one myself—just keeping it 901 to 908 for you, man.

That’s exactly why I’m asking! It seems like everyone I run into online is willing to shell out the cash without blinking an eye, and honestly, I'm not exactly looking to be some cheapskate, ☕
but if I'm going to commit to paying for something for a few months, damn it, I'd much rather hear some actual advice from people who actually know what they're talking about.

urbanhawk17 said:It's all about upbringing. Just upbringing, period.

Look, it’s not a one-way street. Society and upbringing both play massive roles—it's almost a fifty-fifty split.

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:his profile is basically a joke—it’s not even a real pattern. apparently, anyone under 24 or over 16 is considered some kind of "high-risk" profile now, right?

Look, you obviously can't predict if someone’s actually gonna snap, but it does point toward certain behavioral red flags.

And nah, not everyone fits that stereotype. Not everyone wears cheap knockoffs, flips people off in every photo, or drives an old Mercedes-Benz with an eighteen-year-old engine. Besides, even the ones who do all that? They aren't exactly role models. Honestly, none of them are.

I know the guy who got picked up by the cops personally. He was backing some dude up—just because he's one more bottom-feeding cop enthusiast—and he fits the profile perfectly, both online and IRL. I know his history. I know the people he's caused trouble with. I know how much time they've spent behind bars and exactly why.

Obviously, we shouldn't label a kid riding a bike at 15 as a psychopath, nor is it so dire that no minor should ever touch a motorcycle. I'm just saying, from what I've seen, these are the types who'll clock 70 mph through a neighborhood where kids are playing. I personally know two people who grew up with that "lifestyle" and ended up causing massive wreckage. One literally cut a woman in half with reckless driving through a residential area, and the other—after years of terrorizing neighborhoods—ended up killing both themselves and their passenger.

Walter Grant5 said:Look, you obviously can't predict if someone’s actually gonna snap, but it does point toward certain behavioral red flags.

And nah, not everyone fits that stereotype. Not everyone wears cheap knockoffs, flips people off in every photo, or drives an old Mercedes-Benz with an eighteen-year-old engine. Besides, even the ones who do all that? They aren't exactly role models. Honestly, none of them are.

I know the guy who got picked up by the cops personally. He was backing some dude up—just because he's one more bottom-feeding cop enthusiast—and he fits the profile perfectly, both online and IRL. I know his history. I know the people he's caused trouble with. I know how much time they've spent behind bars and exactly why.

Obviously, we shouldn't label a kid riding a bike at 15 as a psychopath, nor is it so dire that no minor should ever touch a motorcycle. I'm just saying, from what I've seen, these are the types who'll clock 70 mph through a neighborhood where kids are playing. I personally know two people who grew up with that "lifestyle" and ended up causing massive wreckage. One literally cut a woman in half with reckless driving through a residential area, and the other—after years of terrorizing neighborhoods—ended up killing both themselves and their passenger.

I'm with you on the whole sentiment, but honestly, it'd be a nightmare if people were actually being arrested just for what they post on Facebook.

bluenomad2 said:I read somewhere that you can spot a potential psychopath just by looking at their eyes. Apparently, if the eyes sit too high above the white part, it's a red flag. I'm not sure how much scientific weight there is to it, but after reading that, I looked up photos of famous serial killers and they all had that exact look—eyes positioned way above the sclera.



Obviously, you shouldn't generalize based on one trait, but it's an interesting bit of info.

Meanwhile, all the good people out there probably have pupils right in the middle.

Walter Grant5 said:Look, you obviously can't predict if someone’s actually gonna snap, but it does point toward certain behavioral red flags.

And nah, not everyone fits that stereotype. Not everyone wears cheap knockoffs, flips people off in every photo, or drives an old Mercedes-Benz with an eighteen-year-old engine. Besides, even the ones who do all that? They aren't exactly role models. Honestly, none of them are.

I know the guy who got picked up by the cops personally. He was backing some dude up—just because he's one more bottom-feeding cop enthusiast—and he fits the profile perfectly, both online and IRL. I know his history. I know the people he's caused trouble with. I know how much time they've spent behind bars and exactly why.

Obviously, we shouldn't label a kid riding a bike at 15 as a psychopath, nor is it so dire that no minor should ever touch a motorcycle. I'm just saying, from what I've seen, these are the types who'll clock 70 mph through a neighborhood where kids are playing. I personally know two people who grew up with that "lifestyle" and ended up causing massive wreckage. One literally cut a woman in half with reckless driving through a residential area, and the other—after years of terrorizing neighborhoods—ended up killing both themselves and their passenger.

I mean, honestly, the whole damn town already knew he was a total loose cannon.🤷