Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

Walter Grant5 said:Look, you obviously can't predict if someone’s actually gonna snap, but it does point toward certain behavioral red flags.

And nah, not everyone fits that stereotype. Not everyone wears cheap knockoffs, flips people off in every photo, or drives an old Mercedes-Benz with an eighteen-year-old engine. Besides, even the ones who do all that? They aren't exactly role models. Honestly, none of them are.

I know the guy who got picked up by the cops personally. He was backing some dude up—just because he's one more bottom-feeding cop enthusiast—and he fits the profile perfectly, both online and IRL. I know his history. I know the people he's caused trouble with. I know how much time they've spent behind bars and exactly why.

Obviously, we shouldn't label a kid riding a bike at 15 as a psychopath, nor is it so dire that no minor should ever touch a motorcycle. I'm just saying, from what I've seen, these are the types who'll clock 70 mph through a neighborhood where kids are playing. I personally know two people who grew up with that "lifestyle" and ended up causing massive wreckage. One literally cut a woman in half with reckless driving through a residential area, and the other—after years of terrorizing neighborhoods—ended up killing both themselves and their passenger.

The kid basically spends every other post pouring his heart out over his car...

restlesssurfer97 said:Meanwhile, all the good people out there probably have pupils right in the middle.

I find myself worrying about what will happen to certain users of this forum in a few years when the inevitable finally occurs, and in one single moment, their entire world and sense of identity just collapses under its own weight.

brightpilot6, what are you even implying now? 😁

Carol Lewis, check out what I found 🤣

Walter Grant5 said:Carol Lewis, check out what I found 🤣

What a graveyard of accounts this has become 🙏🙏

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:I'm with you on the whole sentiment, but honestly, it'd be a nightmare if people were actually being arrested just for what they post on Facebook.

Who was arrested? I haven't seen any news about it.

Walter Grant5 said:Carol Lewis, check out what I found 🤣

🤣🤣

Jack Miller6 said:Who was arrested? I haven't seen any news about it.

I can't track down the original article right now, but here’s a screenshot of the print version.

http://localnews.com/...crime-investigation

Walter Grant5 said:Look, you obviously can't predict if someone’s actually gonna snap, but it does point toward certain behavioral red flags.

And nah, not everyone fits that stereotype. Not everyone wears cheap knockoffs, flips people off in every photo, or drives an old Mercedes-Benz with an eighteen-year-old engine. Besides, even the ones who do all that? They aren't exactly role models. Honestly, none of them are.

I know the guy who got picked up by the cops personally. He was backing some dude up—just because he's one more bottom-feeding cop enthusiast—and he fits the profile perfectly, both online and IRL. I know his history. I know the people he's caused trouble with. I know how much time they've spent behind bars and exactly why.

Obviously, we shouldn't label a kid riding a bike at 15 as a psychopath, nor is it so dire that no minor should ever touch a motorcycle. I'm just saying, from what I've seen, these are the types who'll clock 70 mph through a neighborhood where kids are playing. I personally know two people who grew up with that "lifestyle" and ended up causing massive wreckage. One literally cut a woman in half with reckless driving through a residential area, and the other—after years of terrorizing neighborhoods—ended up killing both themselves and their passenger.

What an absolute fool. 🙏

Aren't they just a collection of misguided individuals? It seems to me they are often people with limited opportunities who harbor grand ambitions they can't quite reach—perhaps having squandered their chances through education or career paths—yet they find themselves irresistibly drawn to a certain lifestyle. Consequently, they end up on the fringes of society, drifting into a gray area at best. I don't necessarily think these guys are inherently evil, but rather that their circumstances mold them into who they are, though that certainly isn't an excuse for their actions.

This isn't directly related to what happened here in the States, but I wonder if any of you caught that YouTube video regarding the attack on the Vanguard CEO back in New York about six months ago? If you look closely at his profile, everything becomes crystal clear. Out of the three individuals who assaulted the security guard, two are currently serving time and one didn't make it out alive. Even in a different country and coming from entirely different families, isn't it striking how similar the psychological makeup can be?

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:I can't track down the original article right now, but here’s a screenshot of the print version.

http://localnews.com/...crime-investigation

Since you're calling him a fake news peddler, I assume you think he's being dishonest? Is it really such a bad thing to be skeptical when someone is out there openly inciting more violence by saying we need "at least 2 or 3" more hits?

My friend, he isn't spreading misinformation; he's just using common sense.

Keith Miller30 said:Since you're calling him a fake news peddler, I assume you think he's being dishonest? Is it really such a bad thing to be skeptical when someone is out there openly inciting more violence by saying we need "at least 2 or 3" more hits?

My friend, he isn't spreading misinformation; he's just using common sense.

First off, don't go thinking you're my son. 👍

It feels like everything in this country is geared toward one thing from the very start—just getting people to socialize. It doesn't even matter what the excuse is, right? From the time you're a kid, the whole system is basically designed to push you into groups and make sure you're always hanging out with someone.

What this guy wrote is basically just barroom rambling—the kind of nonsense you'd hear at a local pub. Sure, you can get away with talking like that over a beer, but trying to pull that stuff on Facebook? That’s a different story.

Calling people in versus just calling them out—it’s a fine line, isn't it? There's a certain art to actually encouraging someone to do better instead of just pointing fingers. It's easy to be loud and critical, but there's something much more effective about pulling someone aside and inviting them to see things from a different perspective. Why settle for making an enemy when you could actually make progress? 🤣 🤣

That 'druker' guy is basically just someone who took one tiny little step forward, so if everyone else starts making moves too, maybe we can finally stop with all that smug, hindsight-based lecturing about why nobody did anything sooner after the damage was already done.

restlesssurfer97 said:That 'druker' guy is basically just someone who took one tiny little step forward, so if everyone else starts making moves too, maybe we can finally stop with all that smug, hindsight-based lecturing about why nobody did anything sooner after the damage was already done.

Nonsense—some things just can't be prevented.

Would any of you actually call the cops over a status update like this??

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:First off, don't go thinking you're my son. 👍

It feels like everything in this country is geared toward one thing from the very start—just getting people to socialize. It doesn't even matter what the excuse is, right? From the time you're a kid, the whole system is basically designed to push you into groups and make sure you're always hanging out with someone.

What this guy wrote is basically just barroom rambling—the kind of nonsense you'd hear at a local pub. Sure, you can get away with talking like that over a beer, but trying to pull that stuff on Facebook? That’s a different story.

Calling people in versus just calling them out—it’s a fine line, isn't it? There's a certain art to actually encouraging someone to do better instead of just pointing fingers. It's easy to be loud and critical, but there's something much more effective about pulling someone aside and inviting them to see things from a different perspective. Why settle for making an enemy when you could actually make progress? 🤣 🤣

Jep, saying "maybe they'll realize their mistake and end up behind bars for two or three years" isn't considered inciting, is it? No, apparently that's just being loving. 👍

And I have to disagree with the notion that this kind of behavior is encouraged from childhood in America; if anything, I'd argue the exact opposite is true, given how often harassment and similar issues go completely unreported here, so your argument doesn't really hold water.

Just out of curiosity, purely for my own understanding, are you perhaps some kind of sports fanatic?

Keith Miller30 said:Jep, saying "maybe they'll realize their mistake and end up behind bars for two or three years" isn't considered inciting, is it? No, apparently that's just being loving. 👍

And I have to disagree with the notion that this kind of behavior is encouraged from childhood in America; if anything, I'd argue the exact opposite is true, given how often harassment and similar issues go completely unreported here, so your argument doesn't really hold water.

Just out of curiosity, purely for my own understanding, are you perhaps some kind of sports fanatic?

He won't be realizing anything because he won't even be able to read in prison...

That's all there is to it. It's all we promote. We have that old saying about wanting the neighbor's cow to drop dead—or better yet, doing everything in your power to steal it. I've seen countless examples where someone will bury you for $33 or even just kill you over something totally minor... people have become spiteful and corrupt, though maybe we've always been this way. ☕

Look, I am a fan, sure. But let me ask you—would you ever want to be a school security guard? Would you cover for your colleagues whenever you could, or would you be a strict follower of the rules? ☕

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:He won't be realizing anything because he won't even be able to read in prison...

That's all there is to it. It's all we promote. We have that old saying about wanting the neighbor's cow to drop dead—or better yet, doing everything in your power to steal it. I've seen countless examples where someone will bury you for $33 or even just kill you over something totally minor... people have become spiteful and corrupt, though maybe we've always been this way. ☕

Look, I am a fan, sure. But let me ask you—would you ever want to be a school security guard? Would you cover for your colleagues whenever you could, or would you be a strict follower of the rules? ☕

Incitement is a broad concept, isn't it? It isn't strictly limited to little Tina or whoever we are talking about. Incitement applies to everyone; tomorrow, some random idiot might see a status update and decide to take matters into their own hands. That is what incitement refers to—it isn't just about the individual who has already committed a crime.

I suppose it’s clear to me that while the probability of someone reading this and launching a crusade to kill a police officer is slim, such behavior simply isn't normal. There are certain groups in society that I personally cannot stand—really, I can't tolerate them—but it has never once crossed my mind to suggest, even in jest, that they should be wiped out.

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:He won't be realizing anything because he won't even be able to read in prison...

That's all there is to it. It's all we promote. We have that old saying about wanting the neighbor's cow to drop dead—or better yet, doing everything in your power to steal it. I've seen countless examples where someone will bury you for $33 or even just kill you over something totally minor... people have become spiteful and corrupt, though maybe we've always been this way. ☕

Look, I am a fan, sure. But let me ask you—would you ever want to be a school security guard? Would you cover for your colleagues whenever you could, or would you be a strict follower of the rules? ☕

The idea of wanting the neighbor's cow to die isn't necessarily tied to "incitement." Envy is one thing; in many ways, it's a natural human trait, though it's more pronounced in some than in others. Just because of envy doesn't mean we are a corrupt people—or if you want to look at it that way, then the whole world is corrupt, not just us.

Jeffrey Ruiz3 said:He won't be realizing anything because he won't even be able to read in prison...

That's all there is to it. It's all we promote. We have that old saying about wanting the neighbor's cow to drop dead—or better yet, doing everything in your power to steal it. I've seen countless examples where someone will bury you for $33 or even just kill you over something totally minor... people have become spiteful and corrupt, though maybe we've always been this way. ☕

Look, I am a fan, sure. But let me ask you—would you ever want to be a school security guard? Would you cover for your colleagues whenever you could, or would you be a strict follower of the rules? ☕

It doesn't really matter; it is just interesting how you most often read these sentiments from sports fans. Isn't it curious how doctors, conductors, engineers, lawyers, or even the clerks at Walmart don't seem to have an issue with the police? It seems those groups don't find the police to be a problem at all, yet for the fans... well, there's a code of silence there, common sense is labeled as incitement, and ACAB becomes the mantra.

Just to be clear, this certainly doesn't apply to every single fan, but whether they admit it or not, it is often the fans who hold these specific views and attitudes toward law enforcement.

Are you thinking along the lines of what Mamić told that little loser of yours, like, where did that pathetic guy even disappear to in the first place? Something like that?

restlesssurfer97 said:Are you thinking along the lines of what Mamić told that little loser of yours, like, where did that pathetic guy even disappear to in the first place? Something like that?

It’s funny you bring that up, because I can't help but wonder if being a rat is actually a good look for Jeffrey Ruiz3 in this scenario, especially when there's some serious personal gain involved, don't you think?

Keith Miller30 said:It’s funny you bring that up, because I can't help but wonder if being a rat is actually a good look for Jeffrey Ruiz3 in this scenario, especially when there's some serious personal gain involved, don't you think?

It was honestly just naive stupidity—thinking something like that would actually fly in a country like the US. Even with all the evidence in the world, it was his call, and it’s one I’d never make because, well, I'm not an idiot and I know how things work out here.👍

Insulting or belittling someone on Facebook or just generally online is technically actionable, sure. But if I typed out to someone that they could go screw themselves and deserved a punch in the face, would I really be getting reported?

That sounds more like your personal experience where it's just fans who can't stand the cops. I have a huge circle of friends and acquaintances in all sorts of jobs—doctors, cashiers, you name it—and even they can't stand the police, and they aren't even sports fans.

Did you report those people to the police during the Euros—the ones commenting online about setting flare-throwers in France on fire or throwing them in jail for a thousand years?

Seriously, what kind of impulse is that—calling the cops over a few sentences on the internet???

Carlos Santana and Rory Gallagher laid it out.