wiredfalcon2 said:I didn't quite catch that. What are you getting at? Which example? Of what?
Look at what happened with companies like ExxonMobil—it wasn't some freak accident where the government just decided to rot from the inside out. A private corporation walked in and bought them off. Plain and simple. You read these threads and you’d think everyone believes private owners are some kind of saints who couldn't dream of a bribe, but that's just naive. When you have weak institutions like we do here in the States, a massive corporation can bend the system to its will without breaking a sweat. And this grand plan of yours? This idea that more and more privatization is going to somehow "strengthen" the nation? It's a joke. All it does is leave the door wide open for these guys to corrupt the state even faster down the road.
Look, an efficient legal system is the backbone of any society that actually works, whether you’re running a hardcore capitalist machine like the US or something a bit more moderate. But honestly? Let's stop beating around the bush and focus on one specific word: precision.
It’s an interesting point. Especially when you use a specific term like "shipyards," even though some of them have already been privatized—something I’m pretty sure you and restlesssurfer97 both knew. When you guys were typing out "shipyards," you weren't just regurgitating memorized talking points like someone who doesn't have a clue how this industry works. You actually know the ownership structures behind these American shipyards. Right?
Look, if you’re gonna sit there acting like an absolute expert on shipyard ownership structures without actually knowing how they work, you just look like a total moron. It’s honestly embarrassing—like someone who thinks they understand the entire economy just by scrolling through some random influencer's Facebook feed.
We’re calling for honest entrepreneurs🐔
If companies like Sears were actually examples of "honest ownership," they wouldn't be facing bankruptcy right now. They brag about being massive retail giants, yet they bleed their employees dry and squeeze suppliers until they snap. They squeezed wages from the bottom and took out massive bank loans to fuel unrealistic growth—growth that was unsustainable for them—and eventually, the whole thing imploded. And now we're supposed to bail out this circus run by a handful of mid-level managers and their cronies? No. Shut it all down... there's no point in anything else.
This is a textbook example of predatory American capitalism—a tumor that really started growing back in the old industrial era. Someone pockets the cash, pushes a business forward just to protect their initial capital, and couldn't care less if the company remains competitive in the long run once the government inevitably steps in to save it.
Healthy corporate growth doesn't happen this way—that's the core issue. Competition is what keeps a business alive; it forces you to improve every single day. If you actually bring value to the market, you survive... otherwise, the market cleans you out.
I think brightpilot6 hit the nail on the head regarding our current climate. Trust in our society has completely eroded, and everything eventually boils down to a "us versus them" mentality.
