Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

It’s honestly wild how many climate change skeptics you run into online. Everyone acts like such an expert, convinced they've spotted a massive scam, even though the experts at the UN and researchers have been sounding the alarm for decades... It gets even funnier when they claim they aren't falling for "conspiracy theories" because it’s just so obvious that huge corporations are pulling the strings.

The biggest players on the planet are actually the ones profiting from mass pollution—think big oil, Big Pharma, the defense industry, and even the massive food conglomerates. Even ten years ago, there were books written about how these industries pay off scientists, fund junk studies, and influence the media to push the narrative that humans and our environmental impact aren't to blame, despite the fact that basically 99% of scientists agree we're in a serious crisis.

But sure, let's pretend the real villains are just powerful NGOs and EV manufacturers like 🤣

brightpilot6 said:Since you happen to be a nuclear physicist—and a practical one at that—I imagine you could offer a fairly grounded assessment of the arguments on both sides.

It really is quite something to witness how people lose their cool and engage in such heated disputes, isn't it? It happens everywhere, from teenagers in Sweden to folks in Chicago. Just look at the comments on Facebook 🤦

It’s pure Dunning Kruger.

Look, I’m pretty sure I know my way around a physics textbook better than most people out there. It’s not like I’m some Nobel laureate or anything—nothing too crazy—but yeah, I get the gist. It's not exactly rocket science, but hey, it's solid.

Look, the site that originally linked this stuff is an actual American outlet run by our own physicists, not some random trolls pulling nonsense out of thin air on the internet.

I just finished reading this piece in Forbes, and man, it’s a trip. Michael is diving deep into how the whole landscape is shifting, and honestly? It hits home. It’s that classic thing where you look at the big players—the Elon Musks of the world—and realize how much the rules of the game are being rewritten in real-time. We’re talking about massive shifts in power and tech that feel like they’re moving faster than we can actually process. It’s wild. The way he breaks down the influence of certain figures... it makes you think twice about who's actually pulling the strings behind the scenes. It isn't just about money anymore; it's about who owns the narrative. You see these massive institutions trying to keep up, but the momentum is clearly elsewhere. It feels less like a gradual change and more like a total system reboot. Anyway, I’ve been chewing on this all morning. What do you guys think? Are we looking at a complete overhaul of how things work, or is this just another cycle of hype before the reality check hits? Let me know.

This whole "calling upon science" thing is honestly hilarious to me. Like, give me a break. They’ve been shouting their version of "science" at us for years on end, and yet, nobody's actually listening.

James Anderson5 said:It’s honestly wild how many climate change skeptics you run into online. Everyone acts like such an expert, convinced they've spotted a massive scam, even though the experts at the UN and researchers have been sounding the alarm for decades... It gets even funnier when they claim they aren't falling for "conspiracy theories" because it’s just so obvious that huge corporations are pulling the strings.

The biggest players on the planet are actually the ones profiting from mass pollution—think big oil, Big Pharma, the defense industry, and even the massive food conglomerates. Even ten years ago, there were books written about how these industries pay off scientists, fund junk studies, and influence the media to push the narrative that humans and our environmental impact aren't to blame, despite the fact that basically 99% of scientists agree we're in a serious crisis.

But sure, let's pretend the real villains are just powerful NGOs and EV manufacturers like 🤣

This is 100% facts. Every time I read about how George Soros is shaping the world with his NGOs, I honestly wish some cybernetic Katodik would come along and fry them with high voltage.
It's become a serious plague...

James Anderson5 said:It’s honestly wild how many climate change skeptics you run into online. Everyone acts like such an expert, convinced they've spotted a massive scam, even though the experts at the UN and researchers have been sounding the alarm for decades... It gets even funnier when they claim they aren't falling for "conspiracy theories" because it’s just so obvious that huge corporations are pulling the strings.

The biggest players on the planet are actually the ones profiting from mass pollution—think big oil, Big Pharma, the defense industry, and even the massive food conglomerates. Even ten years ago, there were books written about how these industries pay off scientists, fund junk studies, and influence the media to push the narrative that humans and our environmental impact aren't to blame, despite the fact that basically 99% of scientists agree we're in a serious crisis.

But sure, let's pretend the real villains are just powerful NGOs and EV manufacturers like 🤣

just give me the names of this 99% of scientists then

Yeah, because the UN is totally an organization dedicated to the betterment of humanity, right? 🙏

wiredrider9 said:just give me the names of this 99% of scientists then

Yeah, because the UN is totally an organization dedicated to the betterment of humanity, right? 🙏

Did you see yourself in what Larry Fox5 was quoting?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ming-passes-99

"The scientific consensus that humans are causing global warming is likely to have passed 99%, according to the lead author of the most authoritative study on the subject, and could rise further after separate research that clears up some of the remaining doubts."

So, what now? Are you actually going to change your mind? Honestly, I heard from some pretty reliable sources that Elon Musk is just funneling his investors' money into funding trips to Greensboro to stir up climate panic, all to pump up his stock prices and sell more EVs while he laughs at everyone from his control center in Sunday... He's even gone vegan just to make his whole persona easier to sell to the naive crowds...

wiredrider9 said:just give me the names of this 99% of scientists then

Yeah, because the UN is totally an organization dedicated to the betterment of humanity, right? 🙏

If you look at the gap between the UN and the total jokers you all are becoming, any sane person could guess who they’re actually going to believe.

James Anderson5 said:Did you see yourself in what Larry Fox5 was quoting?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ming-passes-99

"The scientific consensus that humans are causing global warming is likely to have passed 99%, according to the lead author of the most authoritative study on the subject, and could rise further after separate research that clears up some of the remaining doubts."

So, what now? Are you actually going to change your mind? Honestly, I heard from some pretty reliable sources that Elon Musk is just funneling his investors' money into funding trips to Greensboro to stir up climate panic, all to pump up his stock prices and sell more EVs while he laughs at everyone from his control center in Sunday... He's even gone vegan just to make his whole persona easier to sell to the naive crowds...

The Guardian... hahahahahaha

talking my way toward the truth

wiredrider9 said:The Guardian... hahahahahaha

So, The Guardian is just your punching bag now—fine—but I’m genuinely wondering where you even get your "facts" from, and more importantly, what kind of twisted logic leads you to these "truths"?
I don't even know why I'm surprised anymore—these self-proclaimed "exclusive truth-seekers" always love to talk trash about any media outlet that doesn't fit their little worldview, which, let's be honest, is usually built out of obscure YouTube clips, crystal balls, and Vanga's magic beans.

Just a bunch of geniuses who think they can read between the lines of reality... You can spot them a mile away because they have an opinion on absolutely everything, convinced that their "wisdom"—no matter how half-baked it sounds—is the only absolute truth there is.

edit: getting closer to the truth with Larry Fox5

brightpilot6 said:Since you happen to be a nuclear physicist—and a practical one at that—I imagine you could offer a fairly grounded assessment of the arguments on both sides.

It really is quite something to witness how people lose their cool and engage in such heated disputes, isn't it? It happens everywhere, from teenagers in Sweden to folks in Chicago. Just look at the comments on Facebook 🤦

It’s pure Dunning Kruger.

Look, anyone who actually has experience working on a factory floor isn't going to blindly or openly advocate for nuclear energy.

I don't actually have anything against energy or technology itself, but when you see just how unprofessional and reckless the average person can be, you realize they can screw things up so badly that the risk simply isn't worth taking.

wiredrider9 said:The Guardian... hahahahahaha

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

So NASA is just making things up too? haha... 😁

I guess we could have said the same thing about your baseless takes earlier. But you aren't alone; even Nina Raspudić seems to be joining in on the general nonsense. Honestly, she knows about climate change about as much as Mary knows about algebra, yet she—along with a bunch of other know-it-alls from our local media outlets—insists on weighing in on absolutely everything...

James Anderson5 said:https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

So NASA is just making things up too? haha... 😁

I guess we could have said the same thing about your baseless takes earlier. But you aren't alone; even Nina Raspudić seems to be joining in on the general nonsense. Honestly, she knows about climate change about as much as Mary knows about algebra, yet she—along with a bunch of other know-it-alls from our local media outlets—insists on weighing in on absolutely everything...

George Soros, globalists, fake news, libtards, blah blah blah—see, I can be even louder than you!

Just predicting how you're gonna react.

It is honestly mind-boggling to me that there are still people out there denying the sheer impact humanity has on our environment.
It’s just... unbelievable.
I actually find it easier to wrap my head around the fools who claim the Earth is only 6,000 years old than to deal with those who insist mankind has zero influence on the climate or the ecosystem.

That brings us to the ultimate question. Just how much of this is actually caused by human impact on the environment, and how much of it is simply the byproduct of natural shifts in our climate?

driftingfox66 said:George Soros, globalists, fake news, libtards, blah blah blah—see, I can be even louder than you!

Just predicting how you're gonna react.

The latest batch of nonsense is trying to link climate change directly to the left wing. I don't know where they got that idea, maybe because Donald Trump is on the right, so if someone disagrees with him, they must be on the left? 🤣

It honestly feels like common sense is just disappearing from public discourse lately. It seems like things really started spiraling during those flat earth conspiracies and the whole Duspara thing, which even some church groups actually bought into...

neonfalcon16 said:That brings us to the ultimate question. Just how much of this is actually caused by human impact on the environment, and how much of it is simply the byproduct of natural shifts in our climate?

Well, look at the Mississippi near Krskog; the water temperature there is several degrees higher than it used to be.
It’s a textbook example of a natural warming cycle.

James Anderson5 said:The latest batch of nonsense is trying to link climate change directly to the left wing. I don't know where they got that idea, maybe because Donald Trump is on the right, so if someone disagrees with him, they must be on the left? 🤣

It honestly feels like common sense is just disappearing from public discourse lately. It seems like things really started spiraling during those flat earth conspiracies and the whole Duspara thing, which even some church groups actually bought into...

Oh, please. You really think you're Sherlock Holmes, don't you?
It turns out I’ve just stumbled upon a fascinating new logic being peddled by the right wing. According to their latest criteria, if you aren't a blatant racist, an extreme leftist, or some nostalgic American sympathizer dreaming of rebuilding a massive North American empire, then you simply don't belong on their side. Isn't that just convenient?

Is it really that simple? If you stand against Donald Trump, does that automatically mean you’re a cheerleader for Islamic fundamentalism or some radical expansionist agenda? It seems like people love to draw these sweeping, dramatic lines in the sand. But does one truly necessitate the other?

You were truly perceptive when you finally connected those dots.

If I recall correctly, there’s a regulation limiting how much the temperature can rise—maybe no more than 2 degrees. I spent some time working inside a nuclear plant back in the day, though it's been about ten years since they walked me through the specifics.

I don't exactly remember what the protocol is if they hit those overheating levels—though I doubt they’d actually shut down the reactors.🤔

if they overcook the burgers and toss them on the grill, it’ll be just fine for a pool day