Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)

brightpilot6 said:I am not actually mocking you here; rather, I find it difficult to understand why you feel entitled to lecture anyone on what experiences are like in America. Whether it’s inside a church or out on the street, it doesn't matter. It never occurs to me to try and instruct you on the legal norms or social customs of Canada—simply because I don't know them.

As far as experience goes, I spent eight years as an altar server, starting back during the tail end of the old communist era. But then again, I'm just a simple American; back in the nineties, I was often overlooked by many.

This logic is basically saying if you aren't a coach, you can't talk football, or if you don't have a degree, you can't talk about COVID. What is anyone allowed to comment on then?

The guy is an American living in Canada, he's not living on Mars, for God's sake.🤣

I'm sticking up for darkseal9 and restlesssurfer97, so just turn off the internet already.🤣

Let me see, now that I’m actually sitting down to crunch the numbers, it turns out it wasn't eight after all, but only six.

brightpilot6 said:Let me see, now that I’m actually sitting down to crunch the numbers, it turns out it wasn't eight after all, but only six.

Question for you: do you think the reporter actually handled this professionally and did her job right?

Considering the timing, which holiday it is, and the whole situation... honestly...

If public gatherings are supposedly prohibited, why does it matter where people go or which holiday it happens to be?

The last time I tuned in, we weren't living under a theocracy yet.

Muck behind your back ☕

brightpilot6 said:I am not actually mocking you here; rather, I find it difficult to understand why you feel entitled to lecture anyone on what experiences are like in America. Whether it’s inside a church or out on the street, it doesn't matter. It never occurs to me to try and instruct you on the legal norms or social customs of Canada—simply because I don't know them.

As far as experience goes, I spent eight years as an altar server, starting back during the tail end of the old communist era. But then again, I'm just a simple American; back in the nineties, I was often overlooked by many.

Man, you've been clowning yourself for a while now, even though you said you weren't gonna play games if things got serious. Seriously, damn! If you were really an altar boy, then you should know exactly what kind of emotions come up during confession. You could have been forced into church by your grandma or whatever, wearing her old sweater while pretending to be some devoted follower of Gladiola. Total hypocrite, man.

Paul Martinez73 said:Muck behind your back ☕

There you go—clearly the doors were locked and people were just hanging out outside, but then this genius tries to force her way in... she's basically begging for trouble from Anthony Jackson2

https://www.nytimes.com/news/article/10201108/

"It isn't just about a few rogue priests. You see it all over social media—people who refuse to take this seriously, and that small circle of clergy falls right into that category. They convince themselves they’re being brave or playing the victim, completely ignoring the fact that this isn't about me putting myself at risk; it's about how my reckless behavior puts everyone else in danger, which is something we simply don't have the right to do."

Honestly, I'd tell the Pope he's being a hypocrite by cherry-picking what he calls out, and I actually respect him for that critique.
And now the Diocese is making excuses because of how certain individuals acted. As if it matters... let them all be lumped together: Catholic liberals, scumbags, predators... whatever.

Man, just to be a decent human being for once, here’s ten bucks

Paul Martinez73 said:So basically, she just walked through Central Park, snapped a few shots, asked people why they were hanging out, and then popped into a Cathedral during mass with a camera?

That’s exactly what I was getting at 🤷

If she had just stood outside, filming and interviewing folks, nobody would have said a word. It wasn't about what she was doing, but rather how she went about it.

And the real issue is that some guy at the entrance smashed her phone, and now we see headlines like "Catholics are gathering for mass," "Catholics aren't following bans," and "Priest spreading coronavirus."

Man, one church, one priest, fifteen people at mass, and one guy smashing a phone—that's enough for them to drag the entire faith through the mud everywhere. She could have done a report on the mass while the ban was in place, but you know, there's a way to do things without being intrusive.

The biggest thing here is that the exact same people on this forum were demanding people come out of their holes and gather, and then suddenly they're offended by fifteen people meeting in a Church. Look, my stance is that people shouldn't be grouping up in the first place, and I'm sticking to that whether it's at a Church or anywhere else; I don't get these people, but whatever...

Just show a little consistency. That's why I posted this intentionally; I wanted to see how people would react, and honestly, the hypocrisy, insults, and labeling were pretty obvious.

My Thesis was basically that journalists—and honestly, they can go jump in a lake—only ever bother filming churches. They never capture the parks, Central Park, or any of the other stuff. It's always just the church.

I think we've finally cleared that up.

I’m not dodging anything—my stance has been clear from the jump: people shouldn't be banned from going outside, they just need enough common sense not to put themselves or others at risk. I've walked through downtown a few times and people actually follow the rules—keeping their distance and avoiding crowds. That’s exactly what the CDC recommendations suggest. On the flip side, gathering indoors isn't responsible, nor does it align with the guidelines.

So, you try explaining how this little get-together fits into your whole fantasy of total isolation and travel bans.🍿

Paul Martinez73 said:Question for you: do you think the reporter actually handled this professionally and did her job right?

Considering the timing, which holiday it is, and the whole situation... honestly...

As if anyone cares which holiday it is—it's almost like all safety measures and warnings should just be suspended because it's Easter and everyone can do whatever they want.

Journalism doesn't care about "holy days" or whatever; there's no argument to be made about whether her conduct was appropriate. A journalist's job is the same every single day—if some people want to move the goalposts to suit their mood, that's their problem.

restlesssurfer97 said:Pop: Get out of here, man, just get lost!

This picture pretty much says it all, honestly. 🤣

add some red tones to really drive home that 🙂
feeling.

Paul Martinez73 said:https://www.nytimes.com/news/article/10201108/

"It isn't just about a few rogue priests. You see it all over social media—people who refuse to take this seriously, and that small circle of clergy falls right into that category. They convince themselves they’re being brave or playing the victim, completely ignoring the fact that this isn't about me putting myself at risk; it's about how my reckless behavior puts everyone else in danger, which is something we simply don't have the right to do."

Honestly, I'd tell the Pope he's being a hypocrite by cherry-picking what he calls out, and I actually respect him for that critique.
And now the Diocese is making excuses because of how certain individuals acted. As if it matters... let them all be lumped together: Catholic liberals, scumbags, predators... whatever.

You’ve done everything in your power here to flip the script and make this about the journalist. But she wouldn't even be in this mess if it weren't for that priest. He basically ignored the Pope, ignored HBO, ignored his Archbishop, and ultimately ignored the U.S. government. He's the real issue here, not the reporter.

Anthony Jackson2 said:I’m not dodging anything—my stance has been clear from the jump: people shouldn't be banned from going outside, they just need enough common sense not to put themselves or others at risk. I've walked through downtown a few times and people actually follow the rules—keeping their distance and avoiding crowds. That’s exactly what the CDC recommendations suggest. On the flip side, gathering indoors isn't responsible, nor does it align with the guidelines.

So, you try explaining how this little get-together fits into your whole fantasy of total isolation and travel bans.🍿

As if anyone cares which holiday it is—it's almost like all safety measures and warnings should just be suspended because it's Easter and everyone can do whatever they want.

Journalism doesn't care about "holy days" or whatever; there's no argument to be made about whether her conduct was appropriate. A journalist's job is the same every single day—if some people want to move the goalposts to suit their mood, that's their problem.

Finally, I caught you waiting☕

The link I posted first shows exactly what I was talking about—people clearly aren't following the rules. That’s exactly what I was referring to when I wrote that post, which you then tried to defend by using that line about "Why should people have to hide in holes..."

Since the beginning, I've been in favor of isolation, and I've said several times that "going outside, keeping your distance, and not forming groups" isn't forbidden anywhere. You can find that in several of my posts.

Also, you won't find me defending this anywhere; if you find a post where I say it's fine to hold massive gatherings, I'll hand over my driver's license right now. I only said it wasn't handled professionally and that there are definitely more instances of people breaking isolation than this one. Even the Police officer reported several group gatherings that had to be broken up, and there weren't any journalists there.

Journalism? Are you kidding me? That’s what I was getting at in my first post: when Republicans are looting the country, or when Linda is making shady backroom deals, or when Mommy is throwing parties for everyone under the sun while millions are stolen from clubs and the government... Is that when they ask "Is it a holy day?" Or suddenly it's not their job anymore? Sure, the job is the same every day, but maybe not here in the States.

The headline today was supposed to be about how Americans are actually following the official guidelines and keeping churches empty.

But instead, the news is all about two female journalists getting attacked. We saw the footage from both "attacks," we saw everything with our own eyes.
We didn't need to go looking through some newspaper or listen to some radio broadcast. Thanks to technology, we witnessed it ourselves.

Yet, it’s pretty obvious that ideology can be even more powerful than your own eyes. Technology is going to show us plenty more about our own nature eventually.
I’m sticking to my guns on this: nowadays, we’re the ones creating the news, and the media is being tailor-made just to fit our specific tastes. Those who don't adapt? They're just fading away.

Catholics, scum, predators...

It seems like you and restlesssurfer97 are the only ones obsessed with this, bringing it up maybe twenty times in the last five pages alone. Honestly, I think they're just idiots—kind of like that guy we saw over at Evian. But I suppose you can't hold a decent debate without relying on a strawman, can you?

Most of the church establishment and the actual believers follow the rules and act appropriately. It's just that certain idiots don't. And those idiots need to be called out right now, especially given how things stand. Period.

Ryan Vaughn7 said:You’ve done everything in your power here to flip the script and make this about the journalist. But she wouldn't even be in this mess if it weren't for that priest. He basically ignored the Pope, ignored HBO, ignored his Archbishop, and ultimately ignored the U.S. government. He's the real issue here, not the reporter.

Is anyone actually disputing that? No.

Go ahead and dispute her conduct, her lack of professionalism, and her obvious hunger to turn this into some massive Pulitzer-winning scoop.

By that logic, you could say the Police officer who arrested a grandma for jaywalking was just doing his job—is the grandma at fault then? Sure.
There are plenty of better ways to handle a situation. I highly doubt you were out there defending the police by claiming the old lady was the one in the wrong for crossing on red...

brightpilot6 said:Catholics, scum, predators...

It seems like you and restlesssurfer97 are the only ones obsessed with this, bringing it up maybe twenty times in the last five pages alone. Honestly, I think they're just idiots—kind of like that guy we saw over at Evian. But I suppose you can't hold a decent debate without relying on a strawman, can you?

Most of the church establishment and the actual believers follow the rules and act appropriately. It's just that certain idiots don't. And those idiots need to be called out right now, especially given how things stand. Period.

Yeah 🙂

Honestly, it feels like those "objective" sensors of yours might be a little off lately, so maybe give them a quick calibration or something, because look, we all think we're being objective based on our own personal yardsticks, but you can't exactly claim to be objective when you're just measuring everything by your own specific set of rules. 🤣

Anthony Jackson2 said:I’m not dodging anything—my stance has been clear from the jump: people shouldn't be banned from going outside, they just need enough common sense not to put themselves or others at risk. I've walked through downtown a few times and people actually follow the rules—keeping their distance and avoiding crowds. That’s exactly what the CDC recommendations suggest. On the flip side, gathering indoors isn't responsible, nor does it align with the guidelines.

So, you try explaining how this little get-together fits into your whole fantasy of total isolation and travel bans.🍿

As if anyone cares which holiday it is—it's almost like all safety measures and warnings should just be suspended because it's Easter and everyone can do whatever they want.

Journalism doesn't care about "holy days" or whatever; there's no argument to be made about whether her conduct was appropriate. A journalist's job is the same every single day—if some people want to move the goalposts to suit their mood, that's their problem.

Yeah, okay, explain to me what the big deal is about people hanging out at Walmart (I think it was some kind of department store, whatever) versus just twenty people being in a church.

brightpilot6 said:Catholics, scum, predators...

It seems like you and restlesssurfer97 are the only ones obsessed with this, bringing it up maybe twenty times in the last five pages alone. Honestly, I think they're just idiots—kind of like that guy we saw over at Evian. But I suppose you can't hold a decent debate without relying on a strawman, can you?

Most of the church establishment and the actual believers follow the rules and act appropriately. It's just that certain idiots don't. And those idiots need to be called out right now, especially given how things stand. Period.

If this one priest is truly the issue, then why hasn't the Church taken any decisive action against him?

Why not just transfer him to a different parish?