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James Young87 James Young87 Newcomer
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#3001 ·
My primary care physician actually prescribed me some Xanax. She even had me take one right there in the office while we were talking, just waiting for it to kick in because the panic attacks were absolutely crushing me—I felt truly terrible. So, I suppose if you go to your doctor and just explain exactly what you're going through without making a huge scene, they might be willing to write you a prescription.
Of course, like driftinggull21 mentioned, you really have to be careful with them and try to view them as nothing more than a temporary fix.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3002 ·
driftinggull21 said:If you have any previous medical records, bring them with you.
That said, a primary care physician can prescribe something like Lexapro and provide a private prescription immediately.
But all of that is just a workaround; one must be genuinely careful.

Oh, they definitely are just temporary fixes! I remember once finding myself quite heavily reliant on Helix.🙂
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3003 ·
Honestly, guys, for three days straight now, this Zeldox has been knocking me out right in the middle of movies. I can't seem to finish a single film without passing out.🙂
It’s just that I drift off halfway through, usually around 11 PM, and then I don't even wake up until about 2 AM, which is when I finally realize what happened.🤣
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#3004 ·
Has anyone here actually tried this newer AD? I’m dying to know what the experience is like... please!.http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t1940.gif
gentlesailor25 gentlesailor25 Active Member
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#3005 ·
I’m guessing I might be the only one dealing with this particular mess, but who knows, right?🙄 I’ve tried to kick Helix off my routine about four different times now, and every single time, it’s the same story—around day three or four after stopping, I just get hit with this fever, plus the diarrhea and nausea. It’s honestly pretty brutal.
The longest I ever managed to stick it out was maybe three weeks, but even during those three weeks, things didn't really start looking up. If anything, it felt like my temperature just kept climbing higher and higher.
So, eventually, I’d just give in and start taking it again, and after a couple of days, I’d feel like myself again.🤷
ruggedskipper11 ruggedskipper11 Member
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#3006 ·
urbanskipper4 said:I pick up the original Prozac at a pharmacy near Pike Place Market. They order it in from Germany.
Pfizer stopped making it because the profit margins were too thin, basically.
At least, that's what my psychiatrist told me.

One box of 100 isn't enough for my monthly dose, so I grab two boxes and end up coughing up about $293.

No tax rebates right now, but I'm keeping all my receipts just in case they ever decide to bring those back.

Honestly, I have no clue what a replacement drug would even be.
I'm really not interested in messing around with different brain chemistry or swapping meds.

Man, I order mine there too. The pharmacist told me the exact same thing—they aren't manufacturing it anymore because it’s just too cheap to be worth their time, if you believe that.
How much are you taking daily (talking about Anafranil 25 mg)? I'm on two a day.
Are you dealing with any weight issues from it? I ask because I've been on it forever and I can't gain even half a pound; if anything, I've actually lost weight. Are you taking anything else alongside the Anafranil, like Xanax?
wanderingcyclist20 wanderingcyclist20 Newcomer
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#3007 ·
I’m actually going through this book again, ˝Natural Remedies They Don't Want You to Know About,˝ which basically dives into how the pharmaceutical industry gets rich off our backs.

The author even touches on antidepressants. He makes this claim that all those violent incidents in American schools were carried out by people who were either on antidepressants or had been taking them.

Honestly, when my therapist told me I needed to start on Zoloft, I felt like my entire world just collapsed right then and there.
I was terrified I was losing my mind, and I worried that the meds would only make things worse—maybe offering some temporary fix while emotionally, or maybe even mentally, leaving me permanently damaged.

So, fast forward nearly a year of taking Zoloft to deal with obsessive thoughts, and I have to say, it really helps. It’s almost like it just won't let me spiral into that sick way of thinking—getting stuck on some crazy idea and then spiraling into anxiety because of it.

But I guess you have to wonder: how much of the credit goes to the AD, and how much of it is just because I already knew how to manage obsessive thoughts? I mean, I've dealt with them before, which probably helped me cope... As far as side effects go, I haven't really had any. My mood feels totally normal; I still get happy or sad just like I always would. The only thing is, those nasty, obsessive thoughts are gone, and I finally feel like the old me again—the version of myself from before all the intrusive thoughts and fears kicked in.

If you want proof that ADs actually change your brain chemistry, look at my coffee habit. Before I started them, I couldn't even touch a cup of coffee without practically losing my mind. In my layman's terms, I think my nerves were just so fried and hypersensitive that any little bit of stimulation—whether it was caffeine, nicotine, or just my surroundings—would trigger massive anxiety, panic attacks, and all that mess.

Nowadays, I can drink several cups of coffee back-to-back and feel absolutely nothing. To put it in health-nut terms, I think the Zoloft basically "reset my nervous system."

What I'm scared of now, though, is that maybe my gut instinct was right—that initial rejection, the crying in front of my doctor when she suggested them, the pure disappointment and the fear that I was messing with my own brain... maybe I was onto something.

Because in a month or two, I'm going to face something that nobody in my circle has ever had to deal with: stopping the ADs.
I am genuinely terrified of hitting some kind of chemical yo-yo effect🤣, specifically with serotonin, where my levels spike to the max and then crash to an all-time low once I stop the medication.

I'm scared I'll end up being just another one of those psychiatric guinea pigs who, because of the decision to take that first pill of Zoloft, ends up being dependent on a new box of them forever...

I'm afraid I might never be able to find my way back to being my old self through a natural remedy.

And that maybe the author of that book I mentioned earlier was actually right after all...😢
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#3008 ·
I am terrified of becoming just another guinea pig in psychiatric testing—someone who takes their first dose of Zoloft and ends up tethered to a prescription bottle for the rest of their life...

I fear I will never be able to return to my old self through a natural remedy.

And perhaps the author of that book mentioned above was right...

Antibiotics work by completing a course to cure an infection. Other conditions, such as high blood pressure, are managed by taking medication to remain stable. Epilepsy is kept under control via antiepileptic drugs. Thrombosis is handled similarly. One might even be fortunate enough to have a strong therapeutic response. Psychiatry functions the same way. Antidepressants do not "cure" a disease; they manage symptoms so a person can function effectively. This does not mean every patient requires lifelong therapy; that depends on many variables.
It is identical to how insulin, which a person injects multiple times a day, does not cure diabetes... and I assume the author of said book is aware of this.🤷 It is hardly a state secret.😕

Regardless, try to maintain a positive outlook rather than worrying about the yo-yo effect. I wish you luck and hope you won't need medication ever again. Good luck with your next two months.😉
urbanskipper4 urbanskipper4 Active Member
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#3009 ·
ruggedskipper11 said:Man, I order mine there too. The pharmacist told me the exact same thing—they aren't manufacturing it anymore because it’s just too cheap to be worth their time, if you believe that.
How much are you taking daily (talking about Anafranil 25 mg)? I'm on two a day.
Are you dealing with any weight issues from it? I ask because I've been on it forever and I can't gain even half a pound; if anything, I've actually lost weight. Are you taking anything else alongside the Anafranil, like Xanax?

I was doing 2,2,2 of the Anafranil every day, but man, it’s getting expensive, so I begged my doctor to drop me down to 1,1,2. Hopefully, things don't go south.
I'm also on Aurorix 1,0,1 and Seroquel 1/4, !/4, 1.
Anafranil doesn't make you gain weight. Neither does Aurorix, but Seroquel definitely does. That stuff makes me hungry all the time. It's a nightmare; I'm constantly struggling with my weight.
I can't seem to stick to a diet for the life of me.
It sucks.
Why can't they just invent a medicine that doesn't cause weight gain? Though, I gotta say, the Seroquel actually helped a lot.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3010 ·
urbanskipper4 said:I was doing 2,2,2 of the Anafranil every day, but man, it’s getting expensive, so I begged my doctor to drop me down to 1,1,2. Hopefully, things don't go south.
I'm also on Aurorix 1,0,1 and Seroquel 1/4, !/4, 1.
Anafranil doesn't make you gain weight. Neither does Aurorix, but Seroquel definitely does. That stuff makes me hungry all the time. It's a nightmare; I'm constantly struggling with my weight.
I can't seem to stick to a diet for the life of me.
It sucks.
Why can't they just invent a medicine that doesn't cause weight gain? Though, I gotta say, the Seroquel actually helped a lot.


hehehe, well, I guess it isn't the medication making you gain weight, it's the food. It’s probably not the pill's fault if you end up eating more than usual.😁
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#3011 ·
"Is there truly any point in continuing this circular debate when the facts remain so stubbornly unchanged? We have been dissecting these specific pharmacological interactions for hours now, yet we seem to be circling the same drain without ever reaching a substantive conclusion. Does anyone actually believe that adjusting a dosage of Prozac will somehow mitigate the underlying instability we are discussing, or are we simply grasping at straws to feel a sense of control over an inherently volatile situation? It seems to me that the conversation lacks the necessary rigor required to address the complexities of these medications properly."
Kenneth Scott41 said:hehehe, well, I guess it isn't the medication making you gain weight, it's the food. It’s probably not the pill's fault if you end up eating more than usual.😁

If you ask me, both of them lead to weight gain. I’ve been sticking to a strict calorie deficit and hitting the gym consistently for quite some time now, yet with Zyprexa, I can't seem to drop a single pound. Is it even possible to lose weight on this stuff? To be honest, I'm not necessarily gaining more weight right now, but I am certain that if I weren't on these pills, my current diet and exercise routine would have me losing weight steadily. It is, quite frankly, incredibly frustrating. 🙂
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3012 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:"Is there truly any point in continuing this circular debate when the facts remain so stubbornly unchanged? We have been dissecting these specific pharmacological interactions for hours now, yet we seem to be circling the same drain without ever reaching a substantive conclusion. Does anyone actually believe that adjusting a dosage of Prozac will somehow mitigate the underlying instability we are discussing, or are we simply grasping at straws to feel a sense of control over an inherently volatile situation? It seems to me that the conversation lacks the necessary rigor required to address the complexities of these medications properly."

If you ask me, both of them lead to weight gain. I’ve been sticking to a strict calorie deficit and hitting the gym consistently for quite some time now, yet with Zyprexa, I can't seem to drop a single pound. Is it even possible to lose weight on this stuff? To be honest, I'm not necessarily gaining more weight right now, but I am certain that if I weren't on these pills, my current diet and exercise routine would have me losing weight steadily. It is, quite frankly, incredibly frustrating. 🙂

As soon as you mention Zyprexa, everything makes sense... I guess if avoiding weight gain is a major priority for you, you should probably just keep up with the exercise and stay disciplined with your diet.
Personally, I'm on Zeldox, which is essentially the sibling to Zyprexa, and I haven't noticed any weight gain at all—in fact, it almost kills my appetite. Maybe you could try Zeldox... or perhaps just ask your psychiatrist if switching over to Zeldox might be an option for you.
hollowviper40 hollowviper40 Member
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#3013 ·
driftinggull21 said:
I am terrified of becoming just another guinea pig in psychiatric testing—someone who takes their first dose of Zoloft and ends up tethered to a prescription bottle for the rest of their life...

I fear I will never be able to return to my old self through a natural remedy.

And perhaps the author of that book mentioned above was right...

Antibiotics work by completing a course to cure an infection. Other conditions, such as high blood pressure, are managed by taking medication to remain stable. Epilepsy is kept under control via antiepileptic drugs. Thrombosis is handled similarly. One might even be fortunate enough to have a strong therapeutic response. Psychiatry functions the same way. Antidepressants do not "cure" a disease; they manage symptoms so a person can function effectively. This does not mean every patient requires lifelong therapy; that depends on many variables.
It is identical to how insulin, which a person injects multiple times a day, does not cure diabetes... and I assume the author of said book is aware of this.🤷 It is hardly a state secret.😕

Regardless, try to maintain a positive outlook rather than worrying about the yo-yo effect. I wish you luck and hope you won't need medication ever again. Good luck with your next two months.😉

You make a very logical argument—even if people don't want to admit it, they have to agree with you. Since you're clearly well-informed, I'd love to hear your take on what kind of long-term impact we're looking at for someone who takes antidepressants continuously for years—ten, fifteen, twenty, or more—specifically those SSRIs that work by preventing serotonin reuptake?
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#3014 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:As soon as you mention Zyprexa, everything makes sense... I guess if avoiding weight gain is a major priority for you, you should probably just keep up with the exercise and stay disciplined with your diet.
Personally, I'm on Zeldox, which is essentially the sibling to Zyprexa, and I haven't noticed any weight gain at all—in fact, it almost kills my appetite. Maybe you could try Zeldox... or perhaps just ask your psychiatrist if switching over to Zeldox might be an option for you.

I have tried Zeldox before, but my body reacts to it so violently that I can't even stay on it for two days straight.
You know, it isn't even that I am obsessing over having a perfect physique, but carrying extra weight still makes me feel... unhealthy. 🤷
What I was really trying to get across is that most antipsychotics don't just trigger hunger; they actively mess with your metabolism as well. That was the point I felt the need to clarify. 😬
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#3015 ·
hollowviper40 said:You make a very logical argument—even if people don't want to admit it, they have to agree with you. Since you're clearly well-informed, I'd love to hear your take on what kind of long-term impact we're looking at for someone who takes antidepressants continuously for years—ten, fifteen, twenty, or more—specifically those SSRIs that work by preventing serotonin reuptake?

SSRIs are often a preferred choice for treating depression because they generally carry fewer side effects than other types of antidepressants.
If someone is on medication for that long, there is undoubtedly a serious reason for it; the treatment plan is what it is, and one should trust their psychiatrist. Psychiatrists aren't in league with big pharma (despite what some people think), and they are actually quite relieved when a patient can finally be taken off medication.
As for what happens in 10 or 20 years of usage, I cannot tell you. I don't deal in speculation, and I don't have a crystal ball😁, so attempting to answer would be irresponsible.
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3016 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I have tried Zeldox before, but my body reacts to it so violently that I can't even stay on it for two days straight.
You know, it isn't even that I am obsessing over having a perfect physique, but carrying extra weight still makes me feel... unhealthy. 🤷
What I was really trying to get across is that most antipsychotics don't just trigger hunger; they actively mess with your metabolism as well. That was the point I felt the need to clarify. 😬

Could you tell me specifically what went wrong when you were on Zeldox? (only if you're comfortable sharing, of course). I'm asking because so many people claim Zeldox doesn't work for them, yet they rarely explain the actual reason why.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#3017 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:Could you tell me specifically what went wrong when you were on Zeldox? (only if you're comfortable sharing, of course). I'm asking because so many people claim Zeldox doesn't work for them, yet they rarely explain the actual reason why.

I took it twice. Both times, I felt as though I were experiencing acute poisoning. I dealt with intense nausea, bouts of cold sweats, muscle spasms, and this overwhelming urge to urinate that I simply couldn't satisfy. For about twelve hours straight, I was just stuck in bed, drenched in sweat, hovering on the edge of a delirium—it wouldn't have been out of place if full-blown hallucinations had joined the party. It isn't exactly a pleasant way to spend one's time, is it? 😁
urbanskipper4 urbanskipper4 Active Member
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#3018 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:"Is there truly any point in continuing this circular debate when the facts remain so stubbornly unchanged? We have been dissecting these specific pharmacological interactions for hours now, yet we seem to be circling the same drain without ever reaching a substantive conclusion. Does anyone actually believe that adjusting a dosage of Prozac will somehow mitigate the underlying instability we are discussing, or are we simply grasping at straws to feel a sense of control over an inherently volatile situation? It seems to me that the conversation lacks the necessary rigor required to address the complexities of these medications properly."

If you ask me, both of them lead to weight gain. I’ve been sticking to a strict calorie deficit and hitting the gym consistently for quite some time now, yet with Zyprexa, I can't seem to drop a single pound. Is it even possible to lose weight on this stuff? To be honest, I'm not necessarily gaining more weight right now, but I am certain that if I weren't on these pills, my current diet and exercise routine would have me losing weight steadily. It is, quite frankly, incredibly frustrating. 🙂

I was on Zyprexa before and had these constant hunger attacks. I’d get these shakes and nausea, and I just had to eat something right that second.
With Seroquel, it’s a similar story. I don't get the shakes, but I get this massive hole in my stomach, and I feel weak, so when the urge hits, I just eat.
The medication itself doesn't make you fat; it's just that it makes you insanely hungry.
I really need to lose weight because my knees are killing me. They can't handle the extra weight. Plus, I'm just so sluggish. I barely move, which probably adds to the weight gain too. I can't stand up for long walks, let alone do aerobics or hit the gym.

Kenneth Scott41 said:hehehe, well, I guess it isn't the medication making you gain weight, it's the food. It’s probably not the pill's fault if you end up eating more than usual.😁

How do you feel on Zeldox?
I haven't tried it. I can't take AP that raises my mood because I'll go straight into hypomania.
Anyway, Prozac totally wrecked me; I had way too much energy and couldn't even sleep. And Luvox? I couldn't close my eyes all night. I was awake for a week straight feeling like I was constantly drunk.

For the last three days, everyone at home has been pissed off.
I know it's my fault, because living with someone who has mental illness is hard.
Nobody understands me, nobody knows what kind of hell my life is, and that just drives me into a depression.
I went to my room because it was getting unbearable.
Either way, this whole situation where you can't tell who's more high-strung is terrible for my mental health. It frustrated me so much that my OCD got worse, and then my depression followed right after.
Damn, it's a vicious cycle.
It's enough to drive you crazy.
It's never going to be okay, and I don't see an end to this illness.
Sometimes I just fall into this deep pessimism.
Yeah, and my mom and sister tell me I'm fat. Well, screw them.
So what if I am? What's it to them?
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3019 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I took it twice. Both times, I felt as though I were experiencing acute poisoning. I dealt with intense nausea, bouts of cold sweats, muscle spasms, and this overwhelming urge to urinate that I simply couldn't satisfy. For about twelve hours straight, I was just stuck in bed, drenched in sweat, hovering on the edge of a delirium—it wouldn't have been out of place if full-blown hallucinations had joined the party. It isn't exactly a pleasant way to spend one's time, is it? 😁

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
See, I guess... none of those things happen to me. What you described honestly sounds more like you swallowed some kind of toxin 😁 rather than Zeldox.
I don't deal with any side effects, except maybe for this thing where, about three hours after taking the pill, I start getting incredibly sleepy. My eyelids basically slam shut, to the point where my mom actually asks me, "What's wrong with you? Are you on drugs?" 😂

So, for me, it seems to be working fine. ☕

urbanskipper4 said:Everyone at home has been on edge for the last three days.
I know I'm likely to blame because living with someone struggling with mental health issues isn't easy.
Nobody really understands me, nobody truly knows the hell I'm going through, and that just pulls me deeper into depression.
I eventually retreated to my room because the tension was just too much to handle.
Anyway, being caught in a situation where you can't tell who is more agitated—which in turn affects my own mental stability—is just not healthy. This whole thing frustrated me so much that my OCD flared up, and my depression followed suit.
It’s just a vicious cycle, I suppose.
Absolutely maddening.
Things never seem to get better, and I can't see an end to this illness.
Sometimes I just spiral into heavy pessimism.
And yeah, both my mom and sister make comments about my weight. Honestly, I don't give a damn.
Whatever, it's their problem, not mine.


That's just how it is. Forget them! So what if you've gained weight? I'm fairly certain that if you were in the USA, they'd probably just label you as "anorexic."

So... just relax... take a Kit Kat.😉
Mark Rivera8 Mark Rivera8 Newcomer
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#3020 ·
""""I have a similar experience with Seroquel. While I don't suffer from tremors, I deal with this constant gnawing sensation in my stomach, and whenever I feel weak, I just find myself eating uncontrollably.
The medication itself doesn't technically cause weight gain, but rather it triggers such intense hunger that you can't help it.
I really need to lose some weight because my knees have started aching terribly from the strain.""""

It is exactly the same situation for me!!! I used to weigh about 132 pounds, but after four years on this medication, I've climbed up to 176 pounds. Fortunately, since I am 5'9", the weight is distributed somewhat evenly across my frame.😁

However, once I take my dose, my stomach feels completely empty, and the hunger pangs hit me so intensely that I feel an immediate, desperate urge to eat. RIGHT THAT SECOND!!!!
Every single night, even if I manage to drift off, I end up dreaming about food and physically getting up to wander to the refrigerator, eventually carrying sandwiches back to bed on a plate.
By morning, I wake up to find crumbs scattered everywhere, from under my pillow to all over my sheets!!!

On a positive note, Seroquel has been an absolute lifesaver for me; it allows me to function normally and perform a job that requires sound judgment and carries a great deal of responsibility.

But honestly, my family simply refuses to believe how ravenous this drug makes me feel!
They just say, "Oh, you aren't moving enough, you're eating too much..." and all that nonsense.
I go to the gym three times a week, I go for power walks three times a week, 6.2 miles I have Herbalife for breakfast and dinner, and for lunch, I usually stick to just a salad or some fitness cereals. Even with a daily intake of roughly 600 calories, I simply cannot drop below that 176-pound mark while on my precious Seroquel.

I am truly interested in hearing about the experiences of others who are taking this; I am currently on the 300mg XR version.
Is there anyone out there taking it who hasn't gained weight, or perhaps someone who has discovered a way to successfully lose weight while staying on it?

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