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Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#4041 ·
Not if you go through your insurance... then it’s covered.

EDIT
I’ve tried both private sessions and using my insurance, and honestly, I didn't notice much difference. Even though people act like private therapy is somehow higher quality, it just didn't feel that way to me. They all felt equally useless... I just never really "clicked" with that style of therapy.
hiddenwalker30 hiddenwalker30 Active Member
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#4042 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:If that’s the case, there really isn't any reason to worry.

Both Vistaril and Oleanz contain the exact same active ingredient—olanzapine. If you haven't struggled with weight gain up until this point, why would you suddenly start now?😁

But I've only been on these pills for a month :P Is that even enough time for the weight to kick in?🙂
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#4043 ·
hiddenwalker30 said:But I've only been on these pills for a month :P Is that even enough time for the weight to kick in?🙂

Why not suggest that you ask your doctor about trying Zeldox first? It has a proven track record of not causing weight gain, and if it happens to sit well with you, the effects are remarkably similar to Zyprexa.
Perhaps you could explore some of the other antipsychotics she considers to be viable alternatives? While most of them tend to cause weight gain, the impact is generally much less significant than what one experiences with Zyprexa. 😉
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#4044 ·
For me, Rissett was hands down the best antipsychotic I’ve ever tried. I gave that "famous" Zyprexa a shot too... took it for about two and a half months and honestly? Zero effect. But once I got halfway through a box of Rissett, I felt like a whole new person. 😍

And just to be clear, I didn't gain any weight from the Zyprexa, but after being on the Rissett + Seraxote + Akineton + Helex combo, I ended up packing on about 18 pounds. 🙂
hiddenwalker30 hiddenwalker30 Active Member
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#4045 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Why not suggest that you ask your doctor about trying Zeldox first? It has a proven track record of not causing weight gain, and if it happens to sit well with you, the effects are remarkably similar to Zyprexa.
Perhaps you could explore some of the other antipsychotics she considers to be viable alternatives? While most of them tend to cause weight gain, the impact is generally much less significant than what one experiences with Zyprexa. 😉

Thanks so much, 😍
I'll make sure to jot down the name of the medication so I can mention it to her. 🙂
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#4046 ·
hiddenwalker30 said:Thanks so much, 😍
I'll make sure to jot down the name of the medication so I can mention it to her. 🙂

No, please, just stay away from Zeldox!! Honestly, after taking it, you're basically useless within half an hour because your eyes start drooping and you just drift off. In my experience, Zeldox is like being hit with a bag of concrete.
hiddenwalker30 hiddenwalker30 Active Member
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#4047 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:No, please, just stay away from Zeldox!! Honestly, after taking it, you're basically useless within half an hour because your eyes start drooping and you just drift off. In my experience, Zeldox is like being hit with a bag of concrete.

Oh, wonderful. 🙂 Now I’m left wondering what on earth I’m supposed to do next. 😁
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#4048 ·
So you just skipped over my post too? risset FTW!
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#4049 ·
hiddenwalker30 said:Oh, wonderful. 🙂 Now I’m left wondering what on earth I’m supposed to do next. 😁

Still, you should give Lipitor a shot. It didn't sit well with me either—in fact, I felt it had a worse effect on me than the milligram—but if it works for your system, it could be an excellent alternative, especially since it is the only one proven not to cause weight gain.
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#4050 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:So you just skipped over my post too? risset FTW!

Risset worked wonders for me too, and I eventually moved on to Rispolept Consta.

🙂
George Allen71 George Allen71 Active Member
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#4051 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Still, you should give Lipitor a shot. It didn't sit well with me either—in fact, I felt it had a worse effect on me than the milligram—but if it works for your system, it could be an excellent alternative, especially since it is the only one proven not to cause weight gain.

I feel like I need to share my own experience with Zeldox. I forced myself to take it for three weeks straight. For those three weeks, I could barely even get out of bed. It was absolute hell. I would try to head into work... only to come home and crash for a nap after a little while... I just couldn't function at all. As soon as I stopped taking it, I felt like myself again.
Maybe you'll have better luck with it.
vividlynx17 vividlynx17 Newcomer
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#4052 ·
Has anyone here had experience with Deprozel? I've been on it for five days now, and I’m feeling pretty restless and jittery—I can barely focus on anything, let alone get things done... Is this kind of agitation normal when you're just starting out?
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#4053 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Still, you should give Lipitor a shot. It didn't sit well with me either—in fact, I felt it had a worse effect on me than the milligram—but if it works for your system, it could be an excellent alternative, especially since it is the only one proven not to cause weight gain.

The part about the weight gain is definitely true, but I suppose you could list out all the negative side effects you actually dealt with while on Zeldox?
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
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#4054 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:The part about the weight gain is definitely true, but I suppose you could list out all the negative side effects you actually dealt with while on Zeldox?

If my memory serves me right, I believe I already detailed them all for you somewhere else in this thread. And if I recall correctly, I think I’ve already mentioned that I am female. 🙂 😁

Regardless of what those side effects might be, they are highly subjective and don't manifest the same way in everyone. The specific way my body reacted to Zeldox certainly isn't a universal rule; if it were, nobody would be touching the stuff.

It’s easy for someone to see others' bad experiences and panic, concluding that Zeldox must be inherently dangerous. However, when we are discussing actual harm, the metabolic damage I've seen Zyprexa inflict on fat and sugar processing is, in my opinion, far more concerning.
Chloe Hughes6 Chloe Hughes6 Member
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#4055 ·
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Is there anything more fascinating than the subtle shifts in our own chemistry? I find myself reflecting on Lola at age 27—is it not a pivotal moment for self-discovery? kaže:
Does anyone here have any firsthand experience using Seroqel? My psychiatrist prescribed it to help manage my insomnia and general anxiety, but now that I’ve started looking into the potential side effects, I can't help but wonder: is this really a standard approach? To make matters more complicated, she also put me on Velafax to address what she believes is underlying depression. The thing is, I actually struggle with significant stomach issues, yet she seems convinced those physical symptoms are just a masked form of depression. Is it common for doctors to overlook physical ailments like this in favor of a psychiatric diagnosis?


I felt compelled to write a few thoughts regarding Seroqel after coming across your post! Since you brought up the subject, I thought I would offer some context regarding my own experience. Seroqel? It is truly fascinating, isn't it? My doctor actually pulled this medication straight from her cabinet for me back when it wasn't even readily available at the local pharmacy; she had obtained it through a medical symposium or perhaps a pharmacology seminar. She explained that while it is technically indicated for schizophrenia—a condition I certainly do not have—it works wonders for insomnia and anxiety, much like the issues you mentioned. So, I agreed and began my regimen. However, I soon noticed something peculiar. Other patients in the clinic were being prescribed Seroqel as well, despite having no diagnosis of schizophrenia. After doing a bit of observing and chatting with fellow patients, I realized that Seroqel was being handed out left and right like some kind of new "super drug." I couldn't help but wonder to myself: is something not quite right here? After doing some digging online, I was shocked to discover that Seroqel actually ranks among the top ten most dangerous medications! Furthermore, it simply didn't make sense to me why a drug intended for schizophrenia—a condition affecting less than one percent of the population—was being prescribed so aggressively on such a massive scale. Upon further investigation, I realized this isn't just an isolated occurrence here in America; it is happening everywhere. It seems I am not the only one sensing that something is fundamentally illogical about this situation. I eventually stumbled upon the following text on a website, which I will share with you all shortly!

ever Wonder How an "anti-psychotic" medication transforms into a massive $5.5 billion annual blockbuster? Isn't it fascinating how a single antipsychotic can climb the ranks to become one of the highest-grossing and most lucrative pharmaceuticals on the market in America today? Furthermore, how does a drug specifically engineered to treat a condition affecting less than 1% of the population end up being one of the most frequently prescribed medications across the entire globe?

Have you ever wondered how a medication primarily designed to treat schizophrenia and severe psychosis—conditions that affect less than one percent of the population—could somehow become one of the most frequently prescribed drugs on the planet? This page explores the complexities surrounding Seroqel, and honestly, it is absolutely fascinating reading! Isn't it truly remarkable how such a specific treatment can reach such massive global scale? I highly recommend diving into this; there is so much to uncover!

Have you ever wondered how much dirt can truly be swept under the rug by major pharmaceutical giants? It is a question that weighs heavily on my mind! I recently stumbled upon some deeply unsettling information regarding the litigation surrounding Seroqel, and frankly, it makes one wonder about the transparency of our entire medical industry. Is it possible that the truth is being obscured by layers of corporate maneuvering? The details presented in this latest report suggest that the situation is far messier than anyone initially anticipated. One cannot help but feel a sense of urgency when faced with such revelations. Are we truly being given the full picture when it comes to our health and safety? It is absolutely vital that we continue to demand accountability!

Here is the specific page where you can find additional links regarding AstraZeneca and their production of Seroqel. It provides some fascinating insight into the pharmaceutical industry—an entire sector where billions of dollars are constantly in motion! Isn't it incredible how massive these operations truly are?
Did you know there is actually an entire website dedicated solely to the complexities of Seroqel? It serves as a massive hub where people gather specifically to discuss their experiences with the medication. I won't be dropping the link here, though, since we all know how strict the rules are regarding external forum links!
My investigation into the miraculous properties of Seroqel is far from complete! Don't you think there might be even deeper motivations behind its massive distribution than just simple profit margins?
I see you're also discussing Dormicum, which my doctor prescribed for me as well—perhaps we share the same physician! While this medication is intended to help with sleep, it can trigger retrograde amnesia. This means that once you take it, you really ought to head straight to bed, because you won't remember anything you did between taking the pill and falling asleep. Even though the official instructions warn against using Dormicum for more than two weeks, I ended up taking it for months because my doctor specifically instructed me to do so. Beyond that, isn't it true that Dormicum is also used to induce anesthesia? Currently, I am no longer taking either Dormicum or Seroqel, and people have actually commented that I seem much better! Quite simply, I no longer feel like a "vegetable," which is how I felt whenever I was on Seroqel.

Before I wrap this up, I would like to address the moderators who might find this post objectionable and consider removing it. Please understand that my intention here is purely critical; I am simply sharing my personal experiences and the information I have uncovered. If you are considering deleting this thread, I urge you to ask yourselves one vital question: How does a medication used to treat schizophrenia—a condition affecting roughly 1% of the population—suddenly become one of the most widely prescribed drugs on the planet? Doesn't that single fact speak volumes? Isn't that reason alone sufficient to justify keeping this discussion alive? To be perfectly clear, I am not fundamentally opposed to the use of psychotropic medications. In fact, I truly believe there are individuals for whom Seroqel has been a genuine lifeline in managing schizophrenia and other conditions. However, in this specific instance, it is glaringly OBVIOUS that something is amiss with this particular drug, and I believe people have a fundamental right to know the truth!
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#4056 ·
Regarding that whole stomach issue thing—I actually ended up on Eglonyl for my own gut problems. If I remember correctly, the instructions specifically mentioned it helps with gastro issues (it’s an antidepressant too, though I heard about this one woman who was prescribed it just for migraines). For me, it worked wonders on my stomach!
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#4057 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:Regarding that whole stomach issue thing—I actually ended up on Eglonyl for my own gut problems. If I remember correctly, the instructions specifically mentioned it helps with gastro issues (it’s an antidepressant too, though I heard about this one woman who was prescribed it just for migraines). For me, it worked wonders on my stomach!

While those points are certainly valid, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this is primarily an antipsychotic designed to treat schizophrenia; at lower doses, it may act as an antidepressant, but frankly, I find myself hesitant to take it, even after having experimented with it briefly in the past.
Brandon Lopez6 Brandon Lopez6 Regular
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#4058 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:While those points are certainly valid, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this is primarily an antipsychotic designed to treat schizophrenia; at lower doses, it may act as an antidepressant, but frankly, I find myself hesitant to take it, even after having experimented with it briefly in the past.

* In gastroenterology, it's considered a potent and selective central-acting antiemetic, targeting the bulbar centers, the reticular formation, and the hypothalamic nuclei. *

- I was only doing a quarter of a pill a day and didn't deal with any side effects at all.
What's making you so nervous about it? 🤔
Chloe Hughes6 Chloe Hughes6 Member
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#4059 ·
Allow me to pick up where I left off regarding Seroquel, expanding slightly on my previous post earlier in this thread. Is it not fascinating how much controversy surrounds Seroquel? Despite medical experts in America explicitly advising the Pentagon to stop administering Seroquel to soldiers in active combat zones, the Pentagon simply ignored them! One might argue there was a certain dark logic to it, as I have discovered data suggesting Seroquel can trigger rage and aggression while stripping away rational thought—making it quite a "useful" tool if one's goal is to essentially brainwash a soldier. Furthermore, AstraZeneca, the manufacturer of Seroquel, was forced to pay $600 million in damages due to severe side effects and fatalities linked to the drug. Of course, such a massive sum seems trivial to them when you consider the astronomical profits they rake in from Seroquel sales! It has also come to light that side effect data was systematically falsified. In fact, at least one physician and pharmacist resigned because their conscience would not allow them to continue acting as "pushers" for these pills. There is so much more to uncover if one truly puts in the effort; my intuition tells me there is a much deeper story here.
From what I have gathered, independent research conducted in Canada indicates that Seroquel is strictly a medication for treating schizophrenia and nothing else—and even then, it carries the risk of grave side effects, including reports from researchers of patients dying from heart failure caused by the drug. All those other reasons doctors prescribe it, such as for insomnia or anxiety, seem to be built upon fraudulent data provided by the manufacturing company itself. I am attaching several links from the many resources I found; for those interested in digging deeper, I suggest searching terms like "truth about Seroquel" or "AstraZeneca criminal activity." To save you some legwork, you can find these references on Wikipedia under the Seroquel entry, though I found it necessary to look far beyond Wikipedia's surface level. The first link I've included comes via The New York Times, featuring a compelling article detailing how AstraZeneca paid millions to "clean up" their Seroquel mess, shelling out $520 million just to settle the issues.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/bu...drug.html?_r=0

http://blogs.nature.com/news/2010/04...m_to_sett.html

http://neuroamer.wordpress.com/2012/...most-money-on/

http://www.davidicke.com/articles/me...xpert-warnings

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2...-diabetes-link
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#4060 ·
Brandon Lopez6 said:Regarding that whole stomach issue thing—I actually ended up on Eglonyl for my own gut problems. If I remember correctly, the instructions specifically mentioned it helps with gastro issues (it’s an antidepressant too, though I heard about this one woman who was prescribed it just for migraines). For me, it worked wonders on my stomach!

Back in my college days, my GP also put me on Eglonyl to deal with some stomach troubles.

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