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Daniel Gomez10 Daniel Gomez10 Active Member
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#7801 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Well, those "other uses" actually interest me. I can't shake the feeling that I'm being handed nothing but heavy sedatives just so my therapist can have some peace and quiet. I've dealt with antipsychotics before, and let me tell you, one single pill used to leave me feeling absolutely trashed for two whole days. Now I see that Q-pin is meant for sleep, yet they're handing it to me for a morning shift? It feels like someone is playing games here...

Dealing with severe anxiety, deep depression, heavy insomnia, PTSD, or addiction issues can be really tough. Just hanging in there.

What did they tell you? Why the Q-pin?
If that medication isn't sitting right with you, just make sure to mention it at your next checkup.

Mark Nelson said:But look, when you're starving, your body has to burn through its own reserves, which usually means losing weight. Could Seroquel mess that up too? 😢

I have a feeling it might work by hitting the metabolism through those M3 receptors.
Honestly, there’s still so much we don't know about this stuff. Plus, everyone reacts to medication so differently, so you really can't say anything for certain.
At the end of the day, you just can't beat eating clean and getting some exercise in. It always helps. 🙂
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#7802 ·
restlesstrucker15 said:Honestly, I envy you if you can actually sleep through that, because you know exactly how much of a zombie you'll be the next day.🙂
But I suppose it’s all mental, isn't it? Over the last two nights, I managed to drift off using 5mg of Xanax. I thought it was a miracle at first, but then the physical pain hit me so hard that I think my brain just couldn't process anything properly. Tonight, I could barely settle down even after taking two Sanval.
Maybe I should try starting some meditation around 8:00 PM to unwind before taking the Sanval at midnight.🙂

Skickas FR

restlesstrucker15—I can't quite recall if you’ve ever experimented with the Q-pin? You have the original Seroquel available, though I'm not sure if there's a cost involved. There are also various antiepileptics out there—for instance, Tegretol used to help me drift off perfectly fine back in the day. Honestly, what you're describing regarding sleep sounds more like sucking on Tic Tacs than actual medicine. You really ought to sit down and have a real talk with your doctor; I'm certain there's a solution out there for your insomnia!👋
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#7803 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Well, those "other uses" actually interest me. I can't shake the feeling that I'm being handed nothing but heavy sedatives just so my therapist can have some peace and quiet. I've dealt with antipsychotics before, and let me tell you, one single pill used to leave me feeling absolutely trashed for two whole days. Now I see that Q-pin is meant for sleep, yet they're handing it to me for a morning shift? It feels like someone is playing games here...

Well, it really depends on what dosage they put you on.
I take Q-pin three times a day at 25 mg to help with anxiety.
What dose did they give you? And are you on anything else? I'm on Edronax, which actually keeps me awake—that's basically its whole job.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#7804 ·
Daniel Gomez10 said:Dealing with severe anxiety, deep depression, heavy insomnia, PTSD, or addiction issues can be really tough. Just hanging in there.

What did they tell you? Why the Q-pin?
If that medication isn't sitting right with you, just make sure to mention it at your next checkup.

I have a feeling it might work by hitting the metabolism through those M3 receptors.
Honestly, there’s still so much we don't know about this stuff. Plus, everyone reacts to medication so differently, so you really can't say anything for certain.
At the end of the day, you just can't beat eating clean and getting some exercise in. It always helps. 🙂

I wasn't given any heads-up. Honestly, I think Michael Hill2 was right when he suggested that doctors prescribe Q-pin just to keep patients from hanging themselves from the rafters while they're off on vacation. My therapist actually took his leave and vanished. They told me to check back in this September, which is a total joke. You get handed these meds and nobody even bothers to ask if they’re actually working for you. They just head out for their summer break and leave you to suffer through it all alone.

fadedbear92 Asks:
It really all comes down to whatever dosage my doctor decides to prescribe.
I take my Q-pin three times a day every morning to help manage my anxiety. 25 mg.
How much did they prescribe you? Are you actually taking it, and what’s the dosage? I’m on Edronax myself, which keeps me wide awake—honestly, that's exactly what I need it for.

I’m taking a little bit of Fevarin right now, though honestly, I have no clue if it's actually doing anything for me. It’s just been added to the long list of medications I’ve tried that turned out to be a total wash.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#7805 ·
restlesstiger49 said:I wasn't given any heads-up. Honestly, I think Michael Hill2 was right when he suggested that doctors prescribe Q-pin just to keep patients from hanging themselves from the rafters while they're off on vacation. My therapist actually took his leave and vanished. They told me to check back in this September, which is a total joke. You get handed these meds and nobody even bothers to ask if they’re actually working for you. They just head out for their summer break and leave you to suffer through it all alone.

fadedbear92 Asks:
It really all comes down to whatever dosage my doctor decides to prescribe.
I take my Q-pin three times a day every morning to help manage my anxiety. 25 mg.
How much did they prescribe you? Are you actually taking it, and what’s the dosage? I’m on Edronax myself, which keeps me wide awake—honestly, that's exactly what I need it for.

I’m taking a little bit of Fevarin right now, though honestly, I have no clue if it's actually doing anything for me. It’s just been added to the long list of medications I’ve tried that turned out to be a total wash.

How long have you been on Fevarin? If you just started, it might make you drowsy since it's in that anxiolytic class of antidepressants. It took about two weeks for my body to adjust before the sleepiness finally wore off.
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#7806 ·
restlesstrucker15 said:Honestly, I envy you if you can actually sleep through that, because you know exactly how much of a zombie you'll be the next day.🙂
But I suppose it’s all mental, isn't it? Over the last two nights, I managed to drift off using 5mg of Xanax. I thought it was a miracle at first, but then the physical pain hit me so hard that I think my brain just couldn't process anything properly. Tonight, I could barely settle down even after taking two Sanval.
Maybe I should try starting some meditation around 8:00 PM to unwind before taking the Sanval at midnight.🙂

Skickas FR

Two doses of Sanval—what’s the milligram count on those?
My Devidon finally arrived, and I’m slated to begin the regimen tomorrow. Should I be looking at a 50 mg dose in the evening? And honestly, if you ask me, do you truly believe this will outperform Calixt?
Daniel Gomez10 Daniel Gomez10 Active Member
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#7807 ·
restlesstiger49 said:I wasn't given any heads-up. Honestly, I think Michael Hill2 was right when he suggested that doctors prescribe Q-pin just to keep patients from hanging themselves from the rafters while they're off on vacation. My therapist actually took his leave and vanished. They told me to check back in this September, which is a total joke. You get handed these meds and nobody even bothers to ask if they’re actually working for you. They just head out for their summer break and leave you to suffer through it all alone.

fadedbear92 Asks:
It really all comes down to whatever dosage my doctor decides to prescribe.
I take my Q-pin three times a day every morning to help manage my anxiety. 25 mg.
How much did they prescribe you? Are you actually taking it, and what’s the dosage? I’m on Edronax myself, which keeps me wide awake—honestly, that's exactly what I need it for.

I’m taking a little bit of Fevarin right now, though honestly, I have no clue if it's actually doing anything for me. It’s just been added to the long list of medications I’ve tried that turned out to be a total wash.

Did you ask him?

You could always request a second opinion at the same clinic, or just go see someone at a completely different hospital.

What dose of Q-pin are you on exactly?

With Fevarin, you usually won't feel much for about 3-4 weeks if it's for depression, and maybe even 5-6 weeks if it's for anxiety.
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#7808 ·
fadedbear92 said:restlesstrucker15—I can't quite recall if you’ve ever experimented with the Q-pin? You have the original Seroquel available, though I'm not sure if there's a cost involved. There are also various antiepileptics out there—for instance, Tegretol used to help me drift off perfectly fine back in the day. Honestly, what you're describing regarding sleep sounds more like sucking on Tic Tacs than actual medicine. You really ought to sit down and have a real talk with your doctor; I'm certain there's a solution out there for your insomnia!👋

fadedbear92, I intend to. However, I suspect we have already attempted nearly everything. We've gone through Q-pin, Calixt, Fevarin, Ladiomil, and Amyzol. I highly doubt there would be much of a distinction between Seroquel and Q-pin. You know, I can certainly ask about things. Actually, yes—Prazine absolutely crushes me. It seems I am only suited for short-acting medications because while these antipsychotics do put me to sleep, they leave me in a complete coma. I will inquire about Tegretol. At what dosage were you taking it?

Skickas FR
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#7809 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:Two doses of Sanval—what’s the milligram count on those?
My Devidon finally arrived, and I’m slated to begin the regimen tomorrow. Should I be looking at a 50 mg dose in the evening? And honestly, if you ask me, do you truly believe this will outperform Calixt?

The 10 mg ones. It's great that your shipment arrived. Yes, go with 50 mg. Personally, I found it more helpful because it knocked me out by noon, whereas with Calixt, I was still feeling wired until about 6 PM.

Skickas fr
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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#7810 ·
I mean, it’s totally expected that sleep is going to be a bit hit-or-miss right now. It’s summer, and these heatwaves are just brutal. My only real issue is trying to stay focused at work; it's incredibly hard to concentrate when you're feeling wiped out and sleep-deprived. I guess I remember having the same trouble sleeping when I was a kid during summer vacations at the beach. We used to be cramped up in small spaces, and it felt so stifling whenever the heat peaked. We didn't even have air conditioning back then. These days, I don't really stress about the sleep situation too much. If I'm feeling completely exhausted, I'll just try to catch a nap during the day, though I suppose the true root of my insomnia is likely tied to my mother's tragic passing. Even as a child, though, I never really had any trouble napping at daycare.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#7811 ·
fadedbear92 said:How long have you been on Fevarin? If you just started, it might make you drowsy since it's in that anxiolytic class of antidepressants. It took about two weeks for my body to adjust before the sleepiness finally wore off.

I've been on it for three weeks now. I take it at night specifically because I struggle with falling asleep, though honestly, I don't even feel like it's sedating me.

Daniel Gomez10 said:Did you ask him?

You could always request a second opinion at the same clinic, or just go see someone at a completely different hospital.

What dose of Q-pin are you on exactly?

With Fevarin, you usually won't feel much for about 3-4 weeks if it's for depression, and maybe even 5-6 weeks if it's for anxiety.

I didn't ask. I realized too late, once I had already picked up the prescription, what specific type it was—and frankly, I was too hesitant to even swallow it because of some pretty bad past experiences dealing with psychotic episodes. The dose is 25mg. As for the Fevarin, I'm hoping for some kind of improvement, though given my F60.3 diagnosis, I suspect there isn't a single medication out there that's actually going to improve a patient's quality of life, if you ask me.
Michael Hill2 Michael Hill2 Active Member
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#7812 ·
restlesstiger49 said:I've been on it for three weeks now. I take it at night specifically because I struggle with falling asleep, though honestly, I don't even feel like it's sedating me.

I didn't ask. I realized too late, once I had already picked up the prescription, what specific type it was—and frankly, I was too hesitant to even swallow it because of some pretty bad past experiences dealing with psychotic episodes. The dose is 25mg. As for the Fevarin, I'm hoping for some kind of improvement, though given my F60.3 diagnosis, I suspect there isn't a single medication out there that's actually going to improve a patient's quality of life, if you ask me.

It didn't knock me out at first either. It took a little over a month before I actually started feeling the benefits—mostly just that those anxious voices in my head finally quieted down. 😁

Now, after two months, it actually puts me under quite nicely. The only catch is that I tend to wake up after about three or four hours and then I'm just stuck wide awake. My therapist actually suggested adding a quarter of Calixt to my Fevarin routine to deal with that.

When I take the Calixt, I still wake up in the middle of the night, but I'm so heavily sedated that I can't even bring myself to check the clock before drifting right back off. 😁
Jason Vaughn482 Jason Vaughn482 Regular
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#7813 ·
restlesstrucker15 said:The 10 mg ones. It's great that your shipment arrived. Yes, go with 50 mg. Personally, I found it more helpful because it knocked me out by noon, whereas with Calixt, I was still feeling wired until about 6 PM.

Skickas fr

So, just how much Calixt were you knocking back to be essentially in a coma all day? Personally, I wake up feeling a bit groggy in the morning, but it wears off eventually. I spent some time on 15 mg before tapering down to 7.5... though at this point, it isn't doing much for my sleep issues anymore, even if I have been using it on and off for three years now. Besides, what actually puts you under better than Devidon?

I mean, if you took 20 mg of Sanval? Good grief.
Daniel Gomez10 Daniel Gomez10 Active Member
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#7814 ·
restlesstiger49 said:I've been on it for three weeks now. I take it at night specifically because I struggle with falling asleep, though honestly, I don't even feel like it's sedating me.

I didn't ask. I realized too late, once I had already picked up the prescription, what specific type it was—and frankly, I was too hesitant to even swallow it because of some pretty bad past experiences dealing with psychotic episodes. The dose is 25mg. As for the Fevarin, I'm hoping for some kind of improvement, though given my F60.3 diagnosis, I suspect there isn't a single medication out there that's actually going to improve a patient's quality of life, if you ask me.

In the US healthcare system, doctors usually prescribe meds to target specific symptoms.
So, if you're dealing with anxiety or depression, the goal is to see results from an antidepressant.
If Fevarin doesn't kick in right away, maybe something else will—everyone reacts differently to medication.
As for the Seroquel, 25mg is a tiny dose. At that level, it mostly hits the H1 receptors, which basically just makes you sleepy.
It’s typically used for insomnia, which is probably why you were prescribed it.
Plus, not all antipsychotics work the same way.

But at the end of the day, talk therapy is the real heavy lifter here.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#7815 ·
I haven't seen any posts from tihonsee lately. As requested:
When it comes to Q-pin, a 25mg dose is honestly tiny. At that level, the medication acts quite selectively on the H1 receptors, which means its primary effect is basically just knocking you out.
At that specific dosage, it's typically prescribed to help with insomnia. I'm assuming that’s exactly why your doctor put you on it.
Let’s be clear: not all antipsychotics are created equal.

But let’s be clear: psychotherapy is really the backbone of the whole treatment plan.

I just got handed a prescription for Q-pin with instructions to take it in the morning, so I’m highly skeptical about using it for insomnia. Look, I realize not all antipsychotics act the same way, but I’ve had enough bad experiences with these types of drugs that I'm really hesitant to just keep swallowing them. It’s honestly tragic how people are prescribed medications only to have their side effects "treated" by even more medication. I don't have schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, and when I was dealing with insomnia previously, I was given Fevarin—so why on earth am I being prescribed an antipsychotic now? I’m definitely going to bring this up at my next session.

tihonsee Asks:
You can always request a second opinion from another doctor within the same medical group.

That’s actually a great idea. Since I can't schedule an appointment with my psychiatrist until September, I was wondering if it's possible to just check in with another doctor at the same clinic. I've been on 50mg of Fevarin for three weeks now, and if we decide I need to bump up the dosage, could I just have a quick follow-up with one of their associates instead of waiting? Just a brief consultation to see where things stand.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#7816 ·
@ restlesstiger49
I take 100 mg of Q-pin to help me sleep. Just a heads up—Fevarin is an antidepressant, not a sleeping pill. A 50 mg dose is really just the bare minimum starting point; it’s practically nothing, so you'll likely need to bump it up to 100 mg by increasing it by 1/4 every three or four days.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#7817 ·
I have to say, after taking those antipsychotics—which were primarily prescribed just to help me sleep—I felt absolutely dizzy the next morning. Not to mention how completely listless and unmotivated I felt for the rest of the day. I made sure to bring this up with my doctor, but they just turned around and handed me the exact same type of medication again. I honestly don't get it...🤷 As for the Faverin, they told me it would help with sleep, which is why they’re putting me on it.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#7818 ·
Fevarin acts as an anxiolytic, so it actually helps dial down that anxiety. Maybe you should look into switching up your med
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#7819 ·
Has anyone here tried taking Al Gore?
Curious to hear about your experiences.
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#7820 ·
Jason Vaughn482 said:So, just how much Calixt were you knocking back to be essentially in a coma all day? Personally, I wake up feeling a bit groggy in the morning, but it wears off eventually. I spent some time on 15 mg before tapering down to 7.5... though at this point, it isn't doing much for my sleep issues anymore, even if I have been using it on and off for three years now. Besides, what actually puts you under better than Devidon?

I mean, if you took 20 mg of Sanval? Good grief.

I only take 15 mg. The 7.5 mg dose doesn't do anything for me. My psychiatrist actually mentioned that I'm a bit of an outlier because the sedative effect lingers so heavily into the next day.
Usually, I take 10 mg of Ambien, but if I realize after two hours that I'm still wide awake, I'll take another one.
Have you ever tried Devon?

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