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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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joined Jan 2023
#3081 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Personally, I saw this coming a mile away based on how they've been acting lately.

I’m just putting this out there for the more gullible folks on here, because I feel like we need a little periodic reminder of exactly who we're dealing with.😉

🙂all 5
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#3082 ·
swiftjackal11 said:They'll change their tune once they're actually in the trenches. It's easy to cheer from a coffee shop.

Second episode:
- I'm out walking my dog near a playground
- Parents turn to me and ask, Is the dog dangerous?
- My response: Not at all. What’s actually dangerous is an incoming projectile hitting this playground and leaving nothing behind but baby scraps and fragments of someone's leg...
They just stared at me, likely because they have absolutely no concept of reality.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#3083 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:Second episode:
- I'm out walking my dog near a playground
- Parents turn to me and ask, Is the dog dangerous?
- My response: Not at all. What’s actually dangerous is an incoming projectile hitting this playground and leaving nothing behind but baby scraps and fragments of someone's leg...
They just stared at me, likely because they have absolutely no concept of reality.

Isn't that a little risky to say while in Russia?
Anthony Moore15 Anthony Moore15 Member
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joined Mar 2022
#3084 ·
Well, I was referring to the people living in the Donbas region...
They have been under constant bombardment from the Ukrainians for eight years straight... there isn't a single brick left standing in half those places...
Nancy Howard4 Nancy Howard4 Active Member
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joined Sep 2022
#3085 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:So they go ahead and sign an agreement yesterday, then turn around and start shelling the port today. Honestly, good luck trying to negotiate anything meaningful with a guy like that.🙄

Turkey, Ukraine, and the UN didn't sign anything with the Russians—they just worked out a way to move the grain.
And honestly, the way this grain shipment from Ukraine is going to look is basically like watching "Saving Private Ryan" or "Pearl Harbor."
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
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joined May 2023
#3086 ·
feralhawk45 said:"Putin never lies... he just spreads tactical disinformation"...or so says that guy with the mustache acting as his spokesperson.
If you ask me, that's basically the entire Russian diplomatic playbook.

It's the same doctrine used by Andrew Hebrang—he never actually lies, he just occasionally forgets to tell the truth. 😁
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#3087 ·
Looks like the orcs in Lisičanska had quite the party. Word is there was some big meeting happening right when a HIMARS rocket decided to crash the festivities...
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#3088 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Looks like the orcs in Lisičanska had quite the party. Word is there was some big meeting happening right when a HIMARS rocket decided to crash the festivities...

So, the missile just showed up uninvited to their little gathering? Such rudeness. Clearly, they were never taught any manners at home.
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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#3089 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:So, the missile just showed up uninvited to their little gathering? Such rudeness. Clearly, they were never taught any manners at home.

☕honestly, I think those Ukrainians are losing it...🤣
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#3090 ·
Nancy Howard4 said:Turkey, Ukraine, and the UN didn't sign anything with the Russians—they just worked out a way to move the grain.
And honestly, the way this grain shipment from Ukraine is going to look is basically like watching "Saving Private Ryan" or "Pearl Harbor."

Oh, sure, you definitely have a "source" for that, since every single news outlet is reporting that "Russia and Ukraine signed an agreement on grain exports."☕>
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#3091 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Oh, sure, you definitely have a "source" for that, since every single news outlet is reporting that "Russia and Ukraine signed an agreement on grain exports."☕>

They did, but it wasn't a bilateral deal—they both made separate agreements with Turkey and the UN.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#3092 ·
coastalbison6 said:They did, but it wasn't a bilateral deal—they both made separate agreements with Turkey and the UN.

Alright, look, whether you want to call it a third party, a proxy, or whatever else helps you sleep at night, let's just get down to brass tacks: was hitting that port in New York City a violation of the treaty or not?
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#3093 ·
Russia could pull the plug on any agreement whenever they feel like it, just claiming Ukrainians broke the rules—probably using some excuse about grain ships secretly hauling weapons.

Out of all the ways this could go south, that’s the one move that wouldn't even surprise me.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#3094 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Alright, look, whether you want to call it a third party, a proxy, or whatever else helps you sleep at night, let's just get down to brass tacks: was hitting that port in New York City a violation of the treaty or not?

I wouldn't say it fits the spirit of the deal.🤔
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
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#3095 ·
Wasn't it explicitly stated in the agreement that port cities were off-limits from attacks?!?

Because one would naturally expect the Russians to jump at any chance to "reclaim" what they feel was lost—specifically because there was supposedly nothing in writing regarding security guarantees (those much-discussed "red lines") in exchange for Gorbachev's unilateral dismantling of the Warsaw Pact and the Eastern Bloc as a whole.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#3096 ·
Velimir certainly has faced worse situations than my own little 🤦
mess.
Donna Wells2 Donna Wells2 Active Member
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#3097 ·
coastalbison6 said:They did, but it wasn't a bilateral deal—they both made separate agreements with Turkey and the UN.

It wasn't just a slap in the face to Ukraine or Turkey... it was a spit in the eye of the entire world and the UN.
This is one of the most egregious violations of human rights against humanity we've seen!
Russia knows perfectly well that their actions will leave hundreds of thousands of people to starve, and frankly, they couldn't care less.
If I had any say in it, I'd have Russia kicked out of the UN and kept them totally isolated for the next century.
What they are doing is nothing short of inhumane and barbaric!!!
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#3098 ·
Russia yesterday , Turkey is getting pretty worried about those Russian strikes on New York City, Moscow is basically saying: ‘We had nothing to do with it’

"In our talks with Russia, they told us they have absolutely zero involvement in that attack and that they're looking into it super closely and thoroughly," the Turkish minister said.

Russia Today

Zaharov: We hit a Ukrainian military vessel in New York City
The Spokeswoman of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Maria Zaharov, stated that Russian forces hit military infrastructure and a Ukrainian military vessel at the New York City port using high-precision missiles, according to Reuters.

Ukraine reported that Russian missiles struck the southern port on Saturday, which essentially puts Friday's agreement regarding unblocking grain exports from Black Sea ports—aimed at easing the global food shortages caused by the war—at serious risk.


Russia just lies and lies constantly. Honestly, I don't see any point in sitting down at the negotiating table with people who are such relentless liars and manipulators.

Does anyone else still remember those 74 "killed" Americans? Did the Russians even find a single one?
wearyheron5 wearyheron5 Member
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#3099 ·
Every time they screw something up, their narrative just loops through the same three pathetic excuses:

a) It wasn't us. We have zero clue who did it.🤷>
b) It wasn't us. The Ukrainians targeted themselves.
c) Okay, fine, it was us, but we were only hitting military targets.

It’s an endless cycle.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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joined May 2024
#3100 ·
It’s been exactly five months since Russia kicked off this whole invasion of Ukraine
I honestly don't see an end in sight, nor do I see any clear endgame from the Russians
We already know what the Ukrainians want: they just want their country back
Meanwhile, the Russians are just shipping their dead home in train cars
https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/st...32661278638081

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