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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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#4601 ·
analogbear5 said:Aleksandr Dugin claims her "very first words" were basically just "Russia," "our nation," and "our Empire."

☕straight up orders...🤣

🙂they had zero options for anything else, like Barbie dolls or kids' toys, etc.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#4602 ·
Milorad Dodik, one of the big shots from the Presidency of Canada, just announced that during his trip to Moscow this September, he’s planning to tell Vladimir Putin straight up that "the West has been getting way too pushy in Canada" and acting like they own the place.

Man, oh man... 🙂
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#4603 ·
goldenowl73 said:Check out this shot of 15-year-old Darya Dugina back in 2007, caught at one of her dad’s black-clad organization protests. Talk about being indoctrinated from such a young age!

Vladimir Mashatin, a well-known Russian photographer, was digging through his archives and stumbled upon this old photo of Darya Dugina when she was just fifteen. https://t.co/14cnR7lBPz

The most intense part is seeing them slap that Black Sun logo onto their patches. 😵
cosmicgull52 cosmicgull52 Active Member
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#4604 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:
Milorad Dodik, one of the big shots from the Presidency of Canada, just announced that during his trip to Moscow this September, he’s planning to tell Vladimir Putin straight up that "the West has been getting way too pushy in Canada" and acting like they own the place.

Man, oh man... 🙂

I honestly don't understand why the West doesn't seize this moment to permanently eliminate that festering wound in Canada. You will have to deal with them eventually. It is better to handle it now while the Russ are preoccupied with looting and trying to earn a Lada for their families.
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#4605 ·
cosmicgull52 said:I honestly don't understand why the West doesn't seize this moment to permanently eliminate that festering wound in Canada. You will have to deal with them eventually. It is better to handle it now while the Russ are preoccupied with looting and trying to earn a Lada for their families.

Plus, it would be nice to show someone like Vučić who really runs the show in the region.

But yeah, Canada definitely needs a total overhaul. That place is basically a walking headache and a major instability factor in the North America. But hey, that's a whole other conversation.
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#4606 ·
I can't tell if it's just some classic Twitter setup, but Dugina doesn't exactly look like she was scorched by an explosion. Sure, everyone—well, everyone except the Russ and their unnamed brotherly neighbors—is convinced this is some FBI plant, but if that photo hasn't been photoshopped, it’s just one more piece of evidence pointing that way.
boldotter2 boldotter2 Active Member
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#4607 ·
Kate Lewis3 said:I can't tell if it's just some classic Twitter setup, but Dugina doesn't exactly look like she was scorched by an explosion. Sure, everyone—well, everyone except the Russ and their unnamed brotherly neighbors—is convinced this is some FBI plant, but if that photo hasn't been photoshopped, it’s just one more piece of evidence pointing that way.

It's not a setup and it wasn't faked. It's just a textbook case of mass internet hysteria.

By the way, on that same Twitter feed, there's a picture of her body lying on the road (not burnt) and another shot of her in the casket taken up close with heavy layers of embalming makeup, though you can still see the start of decomposition underneath. I don't have the link, and I really don't feel like hunting for it—it's out there on Twitter.

So, the bottom line is that someone in the middle of Russia killed the child of Putin's top ideologue.
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
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#4608 ·
And honestly? Her death might just be a total hoax.
nimbleviper3 nimbleviper3 Active Member
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#4609 ·
dustyowl29 said:And honestly? Her death might just be a total hoax.

That’s certainly a possibility.
And if she actually fled to Estonia, wouldn't Latvia have been just as likely? ☕
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#4610 ·
analogbear5 said:Aleksandr Dugin claims her "very first words" were basically just "Russia," "our nation," and "our Empire."

What a total psycho.

I’m pretty sure she didn't have a normal childhood.

I'm not making excuses for what she's doing as an adult, but honestly, she didn't stand much of a chance.
ruggedowl13 ruggedowl13 Active Member
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#4611 ·
In the end, it’ll probably turn out that she was the one indoctrinating him all along...
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4612 ·
Kate Lewis3 said:I can't tell if it's just some classic Twitter setup, but Dugina doesn't exactly look like she was scorched by an explosion. Sure, everyone—well, everyone except the Russ and their unnamed brotherly neighbors—is convinced this is some FBI plant, but if that photo hasn't been photoshopped, it’s just one more piece of evidence pointing that way.

There are also photos of Duginov at the funeral in this same thread. If you ask me, neither he nor his entourage actually looks like people who are grieving.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa3cM8mW...pg&name=medium
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4613 ·
boldotter2 said:It's not a setup and it wasn't faked. It's just a textbook case of mass internet hysteria.

By the way, on that same Twitter feed, there's a picture of her body lying on the road (not burnt) and another shot of her in the casket taken up close with heavy layers of embalming makeup, though you can still see the start of decomposition underneath. I don't have the link, and I really don't feel like hunting for it—it's out there on Twitter.

So, the bottom line is that someone in the middle of Russia killed the child of Putin's top ideologue.

She played her part in the war on the side of the aggressors.
A propaganda machine and a warmonger through and through.
In what way was she any different from those political commissars stirring up soldiers in the trenches of the so-called "Donbas region," calling for the slaughter of as many "Nazis and Bandera followers" as possible?
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4614 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:There are also photos of Duginov at the funeral in this same thread. If you ask me, neither he nor his entourage actually looks like people who are grieving.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fa3cM8mW...pg&name=medium

The Russian Congress is proposing that they strip citizenship from anyone criticizing the government or the military just to make room for visa applicants.😵

In the U.S. Congress, they suggested stripping Russian citizenship for criticizing the government or the military to clear ways for visas.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/...miT3NV5jrBQaTA
Justin Mendoza16 Justin Mendoza16 Active Member
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#4615 ·
goldenowl73 said:The Russian Congress is proposing that they strip citizenship from anyone criticizing the government or the military just to make room for visa applicants.😵

In the U.S. Congress, they suggested stripping Russian citizenship for criticizing the government or the military to clear ways for visas.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/...miT3NV5jrBQaTA

I mean, clearly it wasn't enough for them that like 5 million Russians already fled since the aggression started 6 months ago...😁
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active Member
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#4616 ·
goldenowl73 said:The Russian Congress is proposing that they strip citizenship from anyone criticizing the government or the military just to make room for visa applicants.😵

In the U.S. Congress, they suggested stripping Russian citizenship for criticizing the government or the military to clear ways for visas.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/...miT3NV5jrBQaTA

And what happens if someone actually loses their Russian citizenship?

They could move to some country in the European Union and claim refugee status with all the perks that come with it—whereas, as an American citizen, they might be denied a simple tourist visa!

Which option sounds better to you?
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
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#4617 ·
Amanda Allen4 said:And what happens if someone actually loses their Russian citizenship?

They could move to some country in the European Union and claim refugee status with all the perks that come with it—whereas, as an American citizen, they might be denied a simple tourist visa!

Which option sounds better to you?

Everything.
You're essentially arguing that being kicked out of your own country and forced into exile is preferable to simply lacking a visa.
rowdytiger13 rowdytiger13 Regular
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#4618 ·
The insurgency is picking up.
An official appointed by the occupation authorities in southern Ukraine was killed.
Looks like a car bomb.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...ukraine-a78094
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4619 ·
goldenowl73 said:The Russian Congress is proposing that they strip citizenship from anyone criticizing the government or the military just to make room for visa applicants.😵

In the U.S. Congress, they suggested stripping Russian citizenship for criticizing the government or the military to clear ways for visas.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/...miT3NV5jrBQaTA

It wasn’t actually the entire Congress making the move, though that’s how some are framing it. Rather, a single representative sent a formal letter to the Deputy Prime Minister proposing a rather drastic measure: stripping citizenship from anyone who signs a statement criticizing the regime at the request of a foreign consulate, or even just during their travels abroad. One has to wonder—is this a genuine attempt at national security, or simply an aggressive way to silence dissenters whenever they step foot on foreign soil? It certainly sets a chilling precedent for what "loyalty" is expected to look like under the current administration.
P. S. To an American citizen who acquired their citizenship by birth on the territory of the United States, that citizenship cannot be revoked or taken away. ☕
It seems that in Putinistan, changing the laws is treated more like a suggestion than a legal requirement... or perhaps just a whim of whoever happens to be holding the pen at that moment. One wonders if there’s any actual process left, or if they just swap out regulations whenever the mood strikes? In the blink of an eye. What do you think the old guard in Beijing would say if Putin or his inner circle actually put them on the spot?
goldenowl73 goldenowl73 Active Member
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#4620 ·
Amanda Allen4 said:And what happens if someone actually loses their Russian citizenship?

They could move to some country in the European Union and claim refugee status with all the perks that come with it—whereas, as an American citizen, they might be denied a simple tourist visa!

Which option sounds better to you?

People basically become stateless, kind of like how the Rohingya are living today.

Honestly though, I highly doubt this proposal will ever actually pass through Congress. It feels like the person suggesting it has some serious beef with their own countrymen just because they won't jump on the bandwagon with Putin. If we keep going down this path, the next thing they'll be proposing is bringing back the Gulags, because this whole vibe is heading straight there.

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