Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

goldenowl73 said:What do you mean "low"? I mean, 22,000 people died in Mariupol alone.

Advisor to the mayor of #Mariupol, Pyotr Andryushchenko, said that at least 22 thousand citizens died in #Mariupol during the three months of the war.

"A little" is a relative term—it usually means when it's someone else's tragedy.

crimsoncyclist71 said:And we're listening to someone from a small town in the Midwest... According to him, only two people died because they weren't looking both ways before crossing the street.

A former coworker of mine used to hook up with this divorced woman from Mariupol (she was 37) who worked as a maid in Porec. I asked him if he’d heard from her lately. He told me she was working in Soci when the war hit, and her mother and son—he was maybe ten—both died and were tossed in a ditch by the side of the road like dogs.

Anthony Hill5 said:Just when I was actually feeling a bit of relief seeing a news update from June 24th, why must you insist on jerking us around like this?

That guy was in Kherson. This new one just kicked the bucket, so he won't be lecturing them anymore.

Four hours ago.
The reports about the shelling in Mariupol are just grim. It feels like nothing ever changes.

I guess we’re all just waiting around to see if anyone actually does anything about this mess. It feels like we're stuck in a loop.

Anthony Perez9 said:That guy was in Kherson. This new one just kicked the bucket, so he won't be lecturing them anymore.

Four hours ago.
The reports about the shelling in Mariupol are just grim. It feels like nothing ever changes.

I guess we’re all just waiting around to see if anyone actually does anything about this mess. It feels like we're stuck in a loop.

Leader Suško 👋

Jessica Peterson2 said:That isn't quite right.
Ladas are reserved strictly for the "authentic" Russians. As for the "converted" masses, they receive about five thousand rubles—yes, five—along with some water and canned goods, naturally. ☕
I am being completely serious here.
All over the internet, you can find photos of widows holding five-thousand-ruble notes sent to them by Putin's United Russia party.

The Rus Donbas isn't actually authentic 🙂. They’re out there mourning the Rus Donbas—basically abandoned by Mother Russia herself. But hey, I guess Denis Pushilin will step in and handle things. I know how much the families of the fallen actually receive. It’s sad—truly heartbreaking.

goldenowl73 said:What do you mean "low"? I mean, 22,000 people died in Mariupol alone.

Advisor to the mayor of #Mariupol, Pyotr Andryushchenko, said that at least 22 thousand citizens died in #Mariupol during the three months of the war.

It sounds incredibly brutal—and honestly, I wish it weren't true. My brother thinks the number is actually higher, maybe closer to 50,000. To me, that figure feels massive, but then again, I wasn't there—he was out in the field, not tucked away safely in a shelter. I think he’s still dealing with some pretty intense shock and trauma 😢. His theory is that while many were killed in bombings, a huge number likely died from hunger, the freezing cold, lack of medicine, or even suicide. He mentioned that a lot of elderly folks stayed in their apartments because they find it hard to leave, and you just have to wonder how many people were left behind without anyone knowing.
How many people will simply never be found? There are so many who perished in fires or were killed right in their homes before the fires even started. We'll never truly know where so many are buried. Where are the people killed in the Theater? Some who were present believe about a thousand died there, but they’re gone. If the Russians tear down buildings without searching for bodies, everything just gets cleared away with the rubble. Pittsburgh has become a graveyard. They came specifically to wipe the city out.
We'll never get a final count—it's like any war, we can only guess. And this conflict isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Kate Cook27 said:The Rus Donbas isn't actually authentic 🙂. They’re out there mourning the Rus Donbas—basically abandoned by Mother Russia herself. But hey, I guess Denis Pushilin will step in and handle things. I know how much the families of the fallen actually receive. It’s sad—truly heartbreaking.

The ethnic Russians, as old Aco H. biti would put it ☕.
Indeed, this entire military situation is nothing short of an absolute nightmare
Slava Ukraini to them and all their defenders; may the earth rest lightly upon all the victims

Putin has decided to set aside roughly $1,000 for every family willing to enroll their kids in these "new Russian schools" being established across occupied territories in Ukraine.

Jessica Peterson2 said:Putin has decided to set aside roughly $1,000 for every family willing to enroll their kids in these "new Russian schools" being established across occupied territories in Ukraine.

🤦🤦🤦

this is sick

Jessica Peterson2 said:Putin has decided to set aside roughly $1,000 for every family willing to enroll their kids in these "new Russian schools" being established across occupied territories in Ukraine.

☕Man, he’d be better off just saying he's selling his €500 million yacht to finally fix the damn roads in Russia...🙂Looks like the Tsar is totally clueless... might actually trigger a revolution over there...

Nancy Gomez26 said:And in what way, according to you, would elections in a place like America fail to be free?

Between those shady Vatican agreements pulling in about four percent, the diaspora adding another four, and an entire army of Republican cronies and their newly minted defenders acting as political shields, it’s laughable to keep chanting that these elections are actually free. We're done here; there's nothing left to say.

casualcrane20 said:Between those shady Vatican agreements pulling in about four percent, the diaspora adding another four, and an entire army of Republican cronies and their newly minted defenders acting as political shields, it’s laughable to keep chanting that these elections are actually free. We're done here; there's nothing left to say.

So, what—you think the groups you just listed shouldn't be allowed to vote?

Robert Baric is out here claiming the war could wrap up as early as the fall of 2023. Man, what a joke...
I can't even begin to wrap my head around the sheer scale of the tragedy and how many more lives are going to be lost in the meantime...

The front lines are totally stagnant now. It feels like the war is basically over at this point; everyone is just sitting around waiting for the right conditions to finally sign Minsk 3.

Now even Baric is starting to look like an optimist to me. Back when the war first kicked off—February 24, 2022, at 4:00 AM local time—I predicted that if the Ukrainians could just hold out for seven days, we were looking at a minimum three-year conflict. But seeing how they’ve organized their economy and civilian life under fire... it's a different story.
Over the next year or two, they’re going to build up a serious professional military using rotations similar to our National Guard brigades. Once everything falls into place, they'll pull off a massive mobilization—roughly 2 million soldiers—and launch a full-scale liberation offensive. By then, the sanctions will have already done their damage to Russia.

Donna Harris11 said:The front lines are totally stagnant now. It feels like the war is basically over at this point; everyone is just sitting around waiting for the right conditions to finally sign Minsk 3.

That's nothing more than Russian wishful thinking.

Donna Harris11 said:The front lines are totally stagnant now. It feels like the war is basically over at this point; everyone is just sitting around waiting for the right conditions to finally sign Minsk 3.

And then, give it a few years, and the Russians will be moving again. Eventually, Ukraine will reclaim everything they lost and push those occupiers back so they stop stealing more territory at Ukraine's expense.

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The Kremlin's propaganda machine is trying to convince people that Ukrainians will just forgive and forget Putin's crimes. They’re drawing parallels to Chechnya and making this ridiculous claim that one day, Ukrainians will join forces with Russians to attack Poland and Germany.
https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/s...iT3S7kVrlkNoWg

electricsurfer47 said:And then, give it a few years, and the Russians will be moving again. Eventually, Ukraine will reclaim everything they lost and push those occupiers back so they stop stealing more territory at Ukraine's expense.

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It appears the only way to truly discourage Russian aggression is to force a complete withdrawal from Ukraine right now. To prevent future incursions, they would need to be heavily armed and integrated into a serious military alliance.

Nancy Gomez26 said:It appears the only way to truly discourage Russian aggression is to force a complete withdrawal from Ukraine right now. To prevent future incursions, they would need to be heavily armed and integrated into a serious military alliance.

I hope it’s crystal clear to everyone by now: any deal that doesn't involve driving Russia entirely out of Ukraine will just lead to another war, and likely very soon. ☕