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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#4961 ·
QUOTE=steelheron25;94307005]I didn't even suspect one of his own associates would be the one to kill him.

How did Dzhokhar Dudayev die?

The official story is that Dzhokhar was liquidated via satellite tracking; they allegedly pinpointed his cell phone signal and launched a missile directly at his location. Looking at how difficult an operation like that is to pull off in the real world—precision requires speed, which hasn't exactly been the Russian military's strong suit—I find myself skeptical. It feels less likely than presented. Perhaps specialized units were deployed specifically for this, or maybe they could manage it back then because every available resource was focused on hunting a single man. Or, quite possibly, the whole thing is just a convenient narrative designed to protect an intelligence asset when the reality was a simple betrayal.
Dzhokhar Dudayev served as an aviation general during the era of the USSR, so he certainly understood how these operations functioned. During his service in Estonia, he actually learned the Estonian language. In 1990, he famously refused an order to shut down local Estonian television; following that, the long-range bomber squadron under his command withdrew from Estonia, effectively ending his career in the VVS.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4962 ·
https://twitter.com/ItsArtoir/status...86465080377344

If those Belarusian commandos weren't feeling so lonely, maybe they wouldn't need a little backup from the Russian troops—especially when they show up blasting the 🙏 Mortal Kombat theme song 🙏 just for the vibes.
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4963 ·
hollowdriver13 said:https://twitter.com/ItsArtoir/status...86465080377344

If those Belarusian commandos weren't feeling so lonely, maybe they wouldn't need a little backup from the Russian troops—especially when they show up blasting the 🙏 Mortal Kombat theme song 🙏 just for the vibes.

Aaaaaaa ..... they certainly aren't easy to ignore, are they?🙏
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4964 ·
https://twitter.com/pootinslayer/sta...81778745540608

Looks like the big cleanup of people working for Moscow is finally kicking off.

The Department of Energy just picked up two high-ranking officials from the Ministry of Energy on suspicion they've been on the Russian payroll.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4965 ·
Solovyov is still just running his mouth

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...17738226192390

Honestly, this is just more proof that we aren't seeing any real reconciliation anytime soon. I mean, for things to actually change, the Russians would have to be able to admit they’re actually the bad guys in this whole mess—and let's be real, that's basically pure fantasy.

In their heads, they're ALWAYS the heroes or the victims, while the rest of the world is just some big villain out to get them...
Jessica Peterson2 Jessica Peterson2 Active Member
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#4966 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Solovyov is still just running his mouth

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...17738226192390

Honestly, this is just more proof that we aren't seeing any real reconciliation anytime soon. I mean, for things to actually change, the Russians would have to be able to admit they’re actually the bad guys in this whole mess—and let's be real, that's basically pure fantasy.

In their heads, they're ALWAYS the heroes or the victims, while the rest of the world is just some big villain out to get them...

Can we really be surprised by this behavior from someone who had two villas on Lake Como seized by the Italian authorities, saw millions of dollars frozen in their accounts, and then had their residency permit revoked?🤷
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#4967 ·
hollowdriver13 said:Solovyov is still just running his mouth

https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...17738226192390

Honestly, this is just more proof that we aren't seeing any real reconciliation anytime soon. I mean, for things to actually change, the Russians would have to be able to admit they’re actually the bad guys in this whole mess—and let's be real, that's basically pure fantasy.

In their heads, they're ALWAYS the heroes or the victims, while the rest of the world is just some big villain out to get them...

The true purpose of life isn't found in material wealth; it isn't about luxury villas or high-end apartments, claims a man who owns a multi-million dollar estate near Lake Tahoe. "One can only truly live once they realize what they are willing to die for," declares Solovyov, before stepping into a hundred-thousand-dollar car to drive back to his multi-million dollar mansion in the heart of Moscow.
Zachary Jackson4 Zachary Jackson4 Active Member
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#4968 ·
Russian Federation Deputy Foreign Minister Sergej Rjabkov.

"These scenarios boil down to either aggression against Russia or its allies via weapons of mass destruction, or an assault using conventional weaponry when the state's very existence is at stake. I will keep reminding everyone of this—we aren't budging from these positions," stated Sergej Rjabkov during an interview on Russia 24.

Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/news/world/174...ernoe_oruzhie/

So, Crimea is a green light then.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#4969 ·
https://mobile.twitter.com/sovietarm...C85c3q0LkrAAAA

Looks like 30 new volunteers just signed up for the infantry.

Honestly, they’re all absolute units—definitely not looking like any of those future cargo_200 types.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
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#4970 ·
It honestly feels like they just rounded them all up at some local dive bar somewhere.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#4971 ·
Nord Stream 1 is staying shut for now.
Just what we all expected, really. ☕
Thomas Walker84 Thomas Walker84 Active Member
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#4972 ·
"Quote:"
Masker Asks:
Life isn't about material things like fancy villas or luxury apartments, according to this guy hanging out at Lake Tahoe. I'm here. "You can only truly live once you realize what you're willing to die for," Solovyov says, before hopping into a $100,000 car and driving off toward a multi-million dollar estate in Moscow.
I'm here.o ! 👍
🙂
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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#4973 ·
Watching the showdown between Putin and the G7 is gonna be wild
They're trying to tank oil prices by getting producers and shippers to play ball.
Sure, they say it’s all for the "global economy"—aka avoiding a recession.
But honestly? This war is starting to become everyone's headache.
Gregory Ramos3 Gregory Ramos3 Active Member
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#4974 ·
Turbine Adventures Vol. 3

According to Bloomberg, ExxonMobil says they can't reopen their main pipeline to Europe, Nord Stream 1, this Saturday as originally planned because some fresh technical glitch popped up out of nowhere.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...echnical-issue

Just as you'd expect from 🤣 🤣
Terry Green3 Terry Green3 Active Member
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#4975 ·
Case closed. We’re all heading straight into a recession, with American manufacturing taking the biggest hit. Hopefully, we all manage to scrape by somehow.
Sandra Harris2 Sandra Harris2 Active Member
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#4976 ·
It’s funny how much the Russians seem to care about maintaining Nord Stream, when they could be using that energy to upgrade their military hardware instead.

Gas prices dropped today, sitting at around $1.20 per therm.

There’s even talk about putting a ceiling on gas prices—an idea the Italians pushed back in June that apparently now has broader consensus within the EU.

During his appearance at the World Economic Forum in Italy, Zelenskyy confirmed that Ukraine is capable of increasing its electricity exports to Europe (according to recent reports from the Italians).
Terry Green3 Terry Green3 Active Member
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#4977 ·
Sandra Harris2 said:It’s funny how much the Russians seem to care about maintaining Nord Stream, when they could be using that energy to upgrade their military hardware instead.

Gas prices dropped today, sitting at around $1.20 per therm.

There’s even talk about putting a ceiling on gas prices—an idea the Italians pushed back in June that apparently now has broader consensus within the EU.

During his appearance at the World Economic Forum in Italy, Zelenskyy confirmed that Ukraine is capable of increasing its electricity exports to Europe (according to recent reports from the Italians).

Honestly, people would pay five times the price just to have supply, but by the looks of things, there won't be any.
Where exactly is Ukraine supposed to pull electricity from? Zaporizhzhia?

I assume this forum isn't filled with toddlers, so I suppose I should offer some comforting, upbeat forecasts. It’ll be tough, but nothing we can't handle.
Those of us who lived through war will feel the impact, but it won't be quite like before.

I'm more worried about Italy and France. There are strong pro-Russian factions there; I just hope those snowflakes don't buckle and let Putin's useful idiots take over the government.

The eastern bloc of the EU is solid, and I believe Northern Europe is too. If anyone breaks the consensus, it’ll be the southern countries.
Maybe the Germans, since they’ll feel the hit the hardest, but I doubt it.
Sandra Harris2 Sandra Harris2 Active Member
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#4978 ·
Zaporizhzhia isn't the only nuclear plant on the map. And it’s not like they just promised to start supplying Europe at a discount; they’re already exporting some volume, so there's room to scale that up.
No one is claiming this is all going to be sunshine and rainbows—there are definitely going to be problems and things will get messy—but finding a solution is still on the table.

As for Italy, I’m definitely keeping an eye on it. The coalition likely to take power doesn't look great: out of the three, only Giorgia Meloni is an Atlanticist, while Salvini seems to be eating out of Putin's pot, and the senile Berlusconi is basically Putin's puppet.
France, under Macron, is persistently trying to leave a backdoor open to Russia for the future, but I suppose even that is better than what Le Pen would bring to the table.
coastalbison6 coastalbison6 Active Member
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#4979 ·
Terry Green3 said:Honestly, people would pay five times the price just to have supply, but by the looks of things, there won't be any.
Where exactly is Ukraine supposed to pull electricity from? Zaporizhzhia?

I assume this forum isn't filled with toddlers, so I suppose I should offer some comforting, upbeat forecasts. It’ll be tough, but nothing we can't handle.
Those of us who lived through war will feel the impact, but it won't be quite like before.

I'm more worried about Italy and France. There are strong pro-Russian factions there; I just hope those snowflakes don't buckle and let Putin's useful idiots take over the government.

The eastern bloc of the EU is solid, and I believe Northern Europe is too. If anyone breaks the consensus, it’ll be the southern countries.
Maybe the Germans, since they’ll feel the hit the hardest, but I doubt it.

Meloni is taking over in Italy; she's right-wing, but she's definitely aligned with Ukraine.
As for France, I don't see Le Pen being in any position to grab power anytime soon.
Terry Green3 Terry Green3 Active Member
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#4980 ·
Exactly. I'm watching the situation in Italy with concern, and I'm wondering how much Joe Biden will have to cave just to stop Donald Trump from gaining more traction in France.
As for Americans who take to the streets and shut down the whole country just because their favorite cheese got a price hike, I don't exactly trust them.
I also find those leftists in Greece pretty suspicious; they have a knack for sparking chaos on the streets in no time.

I'm certain it'll all start boiling over with the Italians first, and then the unrest will spread to France and Greece.
I really hope I'm wrong.

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