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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#5561 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Actually, this news is about 4 or 5 days old now. Apparently, Putin went ahead and cleared them all out.

It was entirely predictable.

Idiots.
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#5562 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Actually, this news is about 4 or 5 days old now. Apparently, Putin went ahead and cleared them all out.

Got a link? 🙄
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
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#5563 ·
James Chavez91 said:Alright

I’d say the show has officially started

https://twitter.com/the_ins_ru/statu...o_dxkczaEHq5sw

If this turns out to be true—and we have actual substance here—it feels like a small snowball has just started its slow, inevitable roll down a long, snowy slope...
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#5564 ·
The rector of the Kherson Faculty was seriously injured in an explosion over in Kherson. Apparently, the Russians pushed her into that position, and her bodyguard didn't make it. It’s pretty ironic considering she was one of the first people out there calling for Kherson to just fold into Russia.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...65739512991746
crimsonwolf26 crimsonwolf26 Active Member
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#5565 ·
Is Putin barricading himself in Sochi because he’s refusing to talk to his top military brass?
People in districts across St. Petersburg and Moscow are calling for resignations. Honestly, it might be better if the military headed back toward Moscow and Sochi—they could probably use the help there pretty soon.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#5566 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:He didn't actually say any of that, but I think we all get where his head is at lately...

What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

gentlestag15 said:The rector of the Kherson Faculty was seriously injured in an explosion over in Kherson. Apparently, the Russians pushed her into that position, and her bodyguard didn't make it. It’s pretty ironic considering she was one of the first people out there calling for Kherson to just fold into Russia.
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/...65739512991746

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.
Bryan Booth82 Bryan Booth82 Regular
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#5567 ·
wiredseal7 said:What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.

Just a small but vital correction to that inaccurate claim... the Ukrainians actually crossed the Oskaloosa River... so, when you mention the laws of physics, they certainly apply here.

Best regards,
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
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#5568 ·
wiredseal7 said:What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.

A civilian role in an occupied city? Yeah, right. Is targeting an occupier's representative considered terrorism now?
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#5569 ·
wiredseal7 said:What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.

So we're calling a regular civilian job a government role now? Is that why they're trying to take her out?[/I]

Hardly a "regular" job. It's a political stance wrapped in treason. The Russians wouldn't have put her there if she wasn't playing that game.

The Ukrainians have gone full-blown terrorist (sort of like the CIA).

The CIA fights terrorism. Just like Ukraine is doing right now. ☕
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
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#5570 ·
Putin might just "suddenly" trip and fall soon. It’s how they handle things over there—much easier than dealing with a transition, a resignation, an election, or some messy trial. They just flip him out like they did with Stalin back in the day, and everyone pretends nothing happened.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#5571 ·
wiredseal7 said:What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.

View on twitter

This woman stepped up to help bring Kherson back into Russia, so she’s not just some civilian—she's a local traitor working for the foreign occupier.
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#5572 ·
It is truly remarkable to watch those pro-Russia agitators whine about the collaborators who are getting exactly what they deserve.

Absolutely priceless. 🙏 🙏
James Chavez91 James Chavez91 Active Member
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#5573 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Actually, this news is about 4 or 5 days old now. Apparently, Putin went ahead and cleared them all out.

Sorry, I totally missed that. It was just some headline on a news site, so I guess I was just confused by it.

Megan Thomas5 said:Putin might just "suddenly" trip and fall soon. It’s how they handle things over there—much easier than dealing with a transition, a resignation, an election, or some messy trial. They just flip him out like they did with Stalin back in the day, and everyone pretends nothing happened.

Personally, I’d much rather see him face trial for working against Russia's interests and for those war crimes. Both him and his inner circle.
I know that sounds like science fiction, but whatever.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
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#5574 ·
George Robinson43 said:It is truly remarkable to watch those pro-Russia agitators whine about the collaborators who are getting exactly what they deserve.

Absolutely priceless. 🙏 🙏

Nobody even bothers to ask why some innocent, blameless university dean happens to have a Russian bodyguard🤣
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#5575 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Actually, this news is about 4 or 5 days old now. Apparently, Putin went ahead and cleared them all out.

James Chavez91 said:Sorry, I totally missed that. It was just some headline on a news site, so I guess I was just confused by it.

Personally, I’d much rather see him face trial for working against Russia's interests and for those war crimes. Both him and his inner circle.
I know that sounds like science fiction, but whatever.

Yeah, even on the major news sites, they're all reporting it like it happened today.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/news/...latest_updates
That’s why I was looking for a link. Same with that claim about them being "arrested"—it sounds like old news from nearly a week ago.
🤔
Nathan Thomas12 Nathan Thomas12 Regular
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#5576 ·
wiredseal7 said:What do I care about Russian troubles or this whole war, other than sharing the fate of the people "on this side" via my heating bill?☕

This guy is a joke. No, he didn't say it (which I wasn't claiming either), but his whole map is a mess. Wide Ukrainian arrows crossing the Oskil river? Liman without Russians? You have to agree that doesn't match what's actually happening on the ground.

Russia pulled a brutal blitz offensive that worked because it was fast—but they're finding their footing now and, logically, they've dug in at the river as a defensive line.
If it's hard for the Russians to move large troop numbers into Kherson, the same laws of physics apply to the Ukrainian troops at the Oskil river—which, let's be real, is wide and exposed.

A purely civilian role, not even a government position, and they attempt an assassination?
The Ukrainians have really leaned into terrorism—very Mossad-style.

The real question is whether collaborators in civilian roles count as legitimate targets. Look at it this way: if an invading nation occupies your country and installs one of their puppets to run a local corporation, is that person fair game? It’s ridiculous to argue it's "just a civilian job." If it were truly just a private role, the White House wouldn't be picking who gets the position in a foreign country.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#5577 ·
Bryan Booth82 said:Just a small but vital correction to that inaccurate claim... the Ukrainians actually crossed the Oskaloosa River... so, when you mention the laws of physics, they certainly apply here.

Best regards,

If you check the live map, the front line is right on the Oskil.
https://ukraine.liveuamap.com/
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#5578 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:Russia is facing a binary choice: they either call up a massive mobilization or they pull out of Ukraine entirely. You simply cannot sustain a war against a nation of 40 million people that is being backed by NATO and bolstered by expeditionary forces. Sure, the Russians have plenty of manpower sitting in reserve, but the real question is whether they actually have the stomach to commit to a total war.

The real question here is whether Russia actually considers Crimea their territory, or if this whole thing is just one massive bluff.

That’s just heavy sci-fi. Honestly, the idea that any of these countries would actually screw up that badly seems totally unbelievable to me.

Right, and how far is Hiroshima from Geneva? I'd say at least ten times further than, say, Dresden. This war is nowhere near that stage yet, and besides, I'm not even sure if a power plant counts as a legitimate civilian target.

It also blows my mind that Ukraine—which emerged from the USSR as a massive, vital republic—doesn't have a single missile system capable of reaching Moscow.

Look, a bunch of green kids running around with mid-20th-century scrap metal isn't an army. Unless you're talking about some tribal militia out in the middle of nowhere, it just doesn't count.
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
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#5579 ·
James Chavez91 said:Sorry, I totally missed that. It was just some headline on a news site, so I guess I was just confused by it.

Personally, I’d much rather see him face trial for working against Russia's interests and for those war crimes. Both him and his inner circle.
I know that sounds like science fiction, but whatever.

Same here. I’d love to see him squirming, but there's zero chance. That's just how things work in Russia—power shifts happen by eliminating whoever was in charge before.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#5580 ·
Megan Thomas5 said:A civilian role in an occupied city? Yeah, right. Is targeting an occupier's representative considered terrorism now?

Don't try to dictate the rules here.
Legal proceedings—sure—but assassination? No. Let me repeat: she’s a university president. Whether you call it treason or not doesn't change the fact that it's a 100% civilian job. Just like anywhere else in the world.
The CIA, as I mentioned before, still goes after civilian scientists—university professors in Iran, for instance—so it's pretty clear what they are.

Besides, it's not like the population should just stop breathing, eating, going to school, seeing a doctor, or—generally speaking—surviving just because they're under occupation.
But that's not how the Kyiv clique thinks—they're busy pushing Nazi-style laws where you could face 15 years in prison just for, say, accepting food.

George Robinson43 said:It is truly remarkable to watch those pro-Russia agitators whine about the collaborators who are getting exactly what they deserve.

Absolutely priceless. 🙏 🙏

How easy it is to put on those blue-and-yellow glasses and cheer for terrorism. Priceless. 🙏 🙏

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