Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5
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#6942 ·
250 Azovites and their commanders are finally free.
Glory to the heroes!
Huge thanks to Erdogan (who stepped up with personal protection and helped broker their release).
But man, dictators really do pop up everywhere. First MBS, now Erdogan.
Glory to the heroes!
Huge thanks to Erdogan (who stepped up with personal protection and helped broker their release).
But man, dictators really do pop up everywhere. First MBS, now Erdogan.
#6943 ·
crimsongull28 said:The people who were arrested for protesting against the mobilization in Moscow just got hit with their own mobilization notices 😢 https://i.ibb.co/GM5sp9B/pozim-5.jpg
It seems some of them were hauled straight from police stations to mobilization centers without even a chance to catch their breath.
#6944 ·
Megan Hall78 said:I am looking at Google Maps right now, and there is a red line about 12 miles long stretching from Moscow toward Saint Petersburg. I doubt that is just standard traffic...
Here is what things look like at the border crossings heading into Georgia.
The situation at the Russian-Kazakh border is more or less the same thing.
P.S. And here is the Russian-Mongolian border for you.
#6945 ·
John Ramos45 said:The kind of brutality that would make even Pyongyang blush.
https://twitter.com/vestnikstabilno/...58768%2Fpage-2
In Samara, the murjaks arrested a mother just for walking her child in a stroller through a square where an anti-war protest was held later on.
#6946 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:At this rate, maybe we should just start calling in bomb threats on planes to get some attention.🤣
You’ve got a point there.
Maybe everyone should just stay in Russia so they can be mobilized and sent straight to the front lines in Ukraine.
Pure genius, really. 👍
#6947 ·
Jason Fox2 said:When I think about all those Russians fleeing, I can't help but wonder how many are actually genuine refugees who just can't stand Putin—or even the ones who might agree with him but really don't want anything to do with being sent to the front lines—versus how many are just various sleepers, spies, and other creeps getting orders to infiltrate through Europe.
Does it really matter whether they support Putin's politics or not?
What matters is that they aren't heading to the battlefields.
What matters is that they aren't pulling triggers against Ukrainian defenders.
What matters is that they aren't shelling Ukrainian schools and hospitals.
What matters is that they aren't killing, raping, or looting throughout Ukraine.
#6948 ·
This guy hits the nail on the head:
It’s the same point I keep making: the West needs to dial back the rhetoric because Russia isn't going to budge. I'm convinced that de-escalating the tension could actually lead to somewhere productive. Look, let's be real—they have nuclear weapons, and that’s a reality that could end us all. Regardless of how you slice it, we need a voice of reason coming from the West, because right now, there isn't one to be found in Russia, and nobody there seems interested in finding it either.
It’s the same point I keep making: the West needs to dial back the rhetoric because Russia isn't going to budge. I'm convinced that de-escalating the tension could actually lead to somewhere productive. Look, let's be real—they have nuclear weapons, and that’s a reality that could end us all. Regardless of how you slice it, we need a voice of reason coming from the West, because right now, there isn't one to be found in Russia, and nobody there seems interested in finding it either.
#6949 ·
analogbear70 said:This guy hits the nail on the head:
It’s the same point I keep making: the West needs to dial back the rhetoric because Russia isn't going to budge. I'm convinced that de-escalating the tension could actually lead to somewhere productive. Look, let's be real—they have nuclear weapons, and that’s a reality that could end us all. Regardless of how you slice it, we need a voice of reason coming from the West, because right now, there isn't one to be found in Russia, and nobody there seems interested in finding it either.
Can someone explain how a rational person is supposed to reason with someone who isn't? 🤔
#6950 ·
Under the terms of the agreement, the command staff for the Azov regiment will remain stationed in Ankara, Turkey, until the conflict reaches its conclusion. These photos were captured right in the heart of the Turkish capital, Ankara.
https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...Wrnytb3u2yErwg
https://twitter.com/clashreport/stat...Wrnytb3u2yErwg
#6951 ·
analogbear70 said:This guy hits the nail on the head:
It’s the same point I keep making: the West needs to dial back the rhetoric because Russia isn't going to budge. I'm convinced that de-escalating the tension could actually lead to somewhere productive. Look, let's be real—they have nuclear weapons, and that’s a reality that could end us all. Regardless of how you slice it, we need a voice of reason coming from the West, because right now, there isn't one to be found in Russia, and nobody there seems interested in finding it either.
There is no such thing as "the West" versus "Russia." There is only a pack of thugs huddled around a monkey sitting in a bunker in the White House, threatening the entire world.
As long as that group stays exactly where they are, there will be neither peace nor any softening of language. What possible purpose could "negotiations" or "peace treaties" serve when dealing with a bunch of frenzied primates who refuse to follow even the most basic norms—not to mention their complete disregard for any previously signed agreements?
We shouldn't be looking to humiliate Russia. We should be looking to restore its dignity, but first, we have to deal with the idiots currently dragging the country toward total ruin.
Let them pull their military back to the 1991 borders. Let them stop sponsoring cross-border terrorism in former Soviet republics. Let them return to the 1999 constitution and elect a new president, seeing as the current one's mandate expired a lifetime ago.
And that’s the crux of it. No humiliation involved; on the contrary, it would be about restoring dignity. If only they were capable of understanding that.
#6952 ·
analogbear70 said:This guy hits the nail on the head:
It’s the same point I keep making: the West needs to dial back the rhetoric because Russia isn't going to budge. I'm convinced that de-escalating the tension could actually lead to somewhere productive. Look, let's be real—they have nuclear weapons, and that’s a reality that could end us all. Regardless of how you slice it, we need a voice of reason coming from the West, because right now, there isn't one to be found in Russia, and nobody there seems interested in finding it either.
Ahaa, I see where you're coming from. If the "West" softens its tone, there won't be any friction for Europe, and Putin will simply stroll to the borders of the former USSR, dismantle the decaying Western culture within the EU, and continue his pattern of extortion and gradual takeover of Europe—just as he’s already started doing in Germany and Austria.
Because, man, they have nukes. Scary stuff.
EDIT:
one quote:
Our refusal to meet Putin's use of hard power with firm resolve only increases his temptation and his hunger for the imagined security of a "divine" empire. Belarus is effectively annexed. In Ukraine, Putin wants to remove the elected government, install a puppet, and dismantle Ukrainian history and identity. Adding Moldova, with its limited territorial defense, wouldn't take much time. In his speeches and declarations of war, Putin described Finland and perhaps Sweden as part of his domain, and spoke of the Baltic states and Poland—which are NATO members—as "results of World War II" that belong to Moscow.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...perts-00011652
#6953 ·
Jessica Peterson2 said:Does it really matter whether they support Putin's politics or not?
What matters is that they aren't heading to the battlefields.
What matters is that they aren't pulling triggers against Ukrainian defenders.
What matters is that they aren't shelling Ukrainian schools and hospitals.
What matters is that they aren't killing, raping, or looting throughout Ukraine.
For Ukraine, it doesn't matter. For the European Union, it’s a massive headache because even today, ethnic Russians are causing trouble in the Baltic states. It's a huge political mess.
If we were living in a different era—back when people would have been kicked straight back to Russia for marching with a "Z" symbol—things would be simple. But now? They’re shielded by modern minority rights laws. So, the European Union either has to ditch its core principles (which basically turns into ethnic cleansing) or just accept having a fifth column living right inside its own borders.
#6954 ·
Kate Lewis3 said:For Ukraine, it doesn't matter. For the European Union, it’s a massive headache because even today, ethnic Russians are causing trouble in the Baltic states. It's a huge political mess.
If we were living in a different era—back when people would have been kicked straight back to Russia for marching with a "Z" symbol—things would be simple. But now? They’re shielded by modern minority rights laws. So, the European Union either has to ditch its core principles (which basically turns into ethnic cleansing) or just accept having a fifth column living right inside its own borders.
That’s exactly why Latvia shut its borders and isn't letting in a single Russian fleeing mobilization.
They claimed it was purely a security measure.
#6955 ·
The border with Georgia—it’s basically every man for himself out there right now.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...11107806638081
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...11107806638081
#6956 ·
The Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister has issued a call for Russian troops to surrender, promising they won't be forced back to the Russian Federation "against their will."
https://meduza.io/news/2022/09/21/vi...protiv-ih-voli
On the evening of September 21, Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Vereshchuk called on Russian soldiers to lay down their arms.
It’s a matter of protecting what actually matters—your own life and the lives of those you love. Surrendering is a far better option than facing an ignominious death in a foreign land.
Vereshchuk noted that while Russians who surrender could eventually be part of prisoner exchanges for Ukrainian POWs, she emphasized that they maintain the right to refuse repatriation.
If there is no desire to return to Russia, then under the Geneva Conventions and American legal principles, no one is going to forcibly transport them back to the Russian Federation against their wishes.
With mobilization efforts looming in Russia, the State Duma has already passed legislation imposing criminal penalties for "voluntary surrender," which can carry prison sentences of up to ten years.
https://meduza.io/news/2022/09/21/vi...protiv-ih-voli
#6957 ·
Timothy Nelson5 said:And honestly, what’s the actual point of mobilizing protesters like that?
I guess you could just send them off to cover lines on some distant front... maybe.
jadetinker85 said:Great idea! Let the Ukrainians just bomb them with surrender messages instead.
Don't be naive. These "mobilized" protesters, rushed through the system so quickly, could end up dying for their country somewhere near the outskirts of Moscow without ever having even laid eyes on Ukraine. You might get a notification after a few months, if you're lucky. The authorities can simply claim they have no idea where they went—just another group lost somewhere along the front lines.
#6958 ·
Timothy Williams5 said:The Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister has issued a call for Russian troops to surrender, promising they won't be forced back to the Russian Federation "against their will."On the evening of September 21, Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Vereshchuk called on Russian soldiers to lay down their arms.
It’s a matter of protecting what actually matters—your own life and the lives of those you love. Surrendering is a far better option than facing an ignominious death in a foreign land.
Vereshchuk noted that while Russians who surrender could eventually be part of prisoner exchanges for Ukrainian POWs, she emphasized that they maintain the right to refuse repatriation.
If there is no desire to return to Russia, then under the Geneva Conventions and American legal principles, no one is going to forcibly transport them back to the Russian Federation against their wishes.
With mobilization efforts looming in Russia, the State Duma has already passed legislation imposing criminal penalties for "voluntary surrender," which can carry prison sentences of up to ten years.
https://meduza.io/news/2022/09/21/vi...protiv-ih-voli
Real smooth move there.👍
Meanwhile, the European Union is moving toward tightening sanctions and ramping up weapon shipments to Kyiv. Just a day after Putin's envoy spoke up.
#6959 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The border with Georgia—it’s basically every man for himself out there right now.
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...11107806638081
It’s the same story here. I’ve already mentioned seeing groups of draft-age Ukrainians driving around cities like Chicago in cars worth at least $30,000. The ones who can afford to run, run. The poor stay behind. ☕.
We used to have our own version of those Munich battalions, acting all proud over their service in the old wars. ☕
#6960 ·
rowdytiger13 said:That’s exactly why Latvia shut its borders and isn't letting in a single Russian fleeing mobilization.
They claimed it was purely a security measure.
And it isn't just Latvia, either—Lithuania and Estonia have already followed suit.
Now, even Finland has announced they might be moving toward closing their borders quite rapidly.
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