Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

coastalbison6 said:Supposedly 1 million.
Man, who's going to bury all those people? 🤔

They aren't burying them, they're turning them into Soylent Green. I guess Russians are just known for being such great hosts to their guests and friends.

So many people are going to suffer, especially those living out past the Urals who aren't even ethnically Russian. But honestly, what can you expect when they don't even stand up for themselves? Show some backbone! Just pack up and head for Mongolia or Kazakhstan... forget about Ukraine, for crying out loud.

Terry Green3 said:I’d prefer a wall over millions of people being slaughtered on both sides. People seem to be joking around far too easily with this stuff.
We’ve all been hit by this "superman complex." The idea that Russians are just savages living in holes while we're untouchable and invincible. It's delusional.

This potential mobilization of a million Russians is a complete disaster. Anyone naive enough to think this won't bleed into the rest of Europe—that it'll stay contained within Ukraine—is kidding themselves.

Yeah.
The Moscow Wall.

Right across Red Square.

Maybe the pro-Western Russians head to Western Russia, while the Putin loyalists and those neo-fascist types drift off toward Eastern Russia... I guess.

🙂

Index live feed:
Quentin:

The German government just announced they're ready to take in Russian deserters, according to the Associated Press.

Source:
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I think there might be a bit more detail here:
https://www.barrons.com/news/germany...855507?tesla=y
Quentin:

"Deserters facing serious repression can usually receive international protection in Germany," stated Interior Minister Nancy Faeser, noting certain exceptions during an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Separately, Justice Minister Marco Buschmann tweeted using the hashtag "partial mobilization" that "it seems many Russians are leaving their homeland—anyone who hates Putin's path and loves liberal democracy is welcome in Germany."

Bradley White73 said:Index live feed:
Quentin:

The German government just announced they're ready to take in Russian deserters, according to the Associated Press.

Source:
View on twitter

I think there might be a bit more detail here:
https://www.barrons.com/news/germany...855507?tesla=y
Quentin:

"Deserters facing serious repression can usually receive international protection in Germany," stated Interior Minister Nancy Faeser, noting certain exceptions during an interview with The Wall Street Journal. Separately, Justice Minister Marco Buschmann tweeted using the hashtag "partial mobilization" that "it seems many Russians are leaving their homeland—anyone who hates Putin's path and loves liberal democracy is welcome in Germany."

Hopefully they aren't the voting body for the Republican Party by next year.

rowdytiger13 said:Hopefully they aren't the voting body for the Republican Party by next year.

The Republican Party is basically just a branch of the CIA/FBI at this point, so I doubt it... though maybe we’d just see a sudden spike in people falling off balconies.

silentnomad7 said:I’m just not following the logic here.

Are they planning to drop a nuke first and then follow it up with 300,000 troops?

Or...

Maybe they send in those 300,000 soldiers first, and only then go for the nuclear option?

The second scenario—once those 300,000 are sent running for their lives.

A senator representing Crimea has actually proposed shortening the list of medical conditions that qualify someone for a military service exemption in the Russian Senate.
Just picture it: an army where, alongside the usual suspects like cannibals and predators, you’ll also find soldiers missing limbs or battling blood cancer and terminal AIDS.🤦
AIDS

Jessica Peterson2 said:A senator representing Crimea has actually proposed shortening the list of medical conditions that qualify someone for a military service exemption in the Russian Senate.
Just picture it: an army where, alongside the usual suspects like cannibals and predators, you’ll also find soldiers missing limbs or battling blood cancer and terminal AIDS.🤦
AIDS

One thing is for sure—I guess the kids of high-ranking politicians will still find some way to be "too sick" to serve. It’s always like that in every war, in every country, I suppose.

Jessica Peterson2 said:A senator representing Crimea has actually proposed shortening the list of medical conditions that qualify someone for a military service exemption in the Russian Senate.
Just picture it: an army where, alongside the usual suspects like cannibals and predators, you’ll also find soldiers missing limbs or battling blood cancer and terminal AIDS.🤦
AIDS

Maybe she can lead by example and show us what fighting on the front lines actually looks like. 🕺

Are you actually prepared to die in Ukraine?

I just watched this street poll, and honestly, some of the responses are absolutely wild.

Henry Sullivan4 said:My friend, I am willing to buy you drinks all night long if I'm wrong, but I guarantee full-scale mobilization isn't coming; instead, we'll likely be looking at a funeral so massive that even whatever Ele-No2 is planning will look insignificant by comparison.☕

At the start of the year, Ukrainians didn't buy the American warnings about a full-scale Russian invasion across the entire country. Look how that turned out.

Not much on the menu here.

Russia wins. Ukraine accepts the peace terms.
Ukraine wins, and Russia accepts their peace terms. Simple as that.
The collapse of Putin-esque regimes is inevitable.

First, they won't allow NATO involvement unless it means stepping directly into a full-blown conflict with Russia and risking a nuclear war.
Russia won't let that happen while they have nuclear weapons in play. Simple as that.
The third thing we’re all hoping for? It isn't happening.

I’m a pessimist. I honestly think the US, Europe, and Russia are on an unstoppable collision course toward total destruction. Both sides have become completely uncompromising. No negotiations, no middle ground—just pure, stubborn exclusivity. In my view, that only leads to one thing: all-out war.
A new Canada set up in some military base isn't going to reach an agreement.
The Russians under Putin can't afford to show even a hint of weakness. Meanwhile, the USA, dealing with its own domestic disaster, is stuck in the same position. Neither side can blink.

Terry Green3 said:At the start of the year, Ukrainians didn't buy the American warnings about a full-scale Russian invasion across the entire country. Look how that turned out.

Not much on the menu here.

Russia wins. Ukraine accepts the peace terms.
Ukraine wins, and Russia accepts their peace terms. Simple as that.
The collapse of Putin-esque regimes is inevitable.

First, they won't allow NATO involvement unless it means stepping directly into a full-blown conflict with Russia and risking a nuclear war.
Russia won't let that happen while they have nuclear weapons in play. Simple as that.
The third thing we’re all hoping for? It isn't happening.

I’m a pessimist. I honestly think the US, Europe, and Russia are on an unstoppable collision course toward total destruction. Both sides have become completely uncompromising. No negotiations, no middle ground—just pure, stubborn exclusivity. In my view, that only leads to one thing: all-out war.
A new Canada set up in some military base isn't going to reach an agreement.
The Russians under Putin can't afford to show even a hint of weakness. Meanwhile, the USA, dealing with its own domestic disaster, is stuck in the same position. Neither side can blink.

You're totally panicking here.

And besides, just because the Americans were right about this doesn't mean you can blindly trust every single thing they analyze. If they say Putin is probably shitting himself, then yeah, he probably is, but that's about it.

northernhawk33 said:How many opportunists from Ukraine fled all over the globe instead of actually defending their own backyard, only to sit around whining now?
It’s almost a given that tactical nukes will be used on Ukrainian soil—but who cares, right? It’s all at a safe distance from the US. Nobody gave a damn when they dropped nukes on Japan, either. As long as these people are dying and their land is being poisoned, it doesn't matter. All that depleted uranium will just sit there, ruining their soil and water until the local population pays the price. Meanwhile, the real puppet masters of war just keep stacking up the profits. ☕

Is it really the fault of the guy from that group who wasn't smart enough to avoid attacking a neighbor, or do you think he was forced into it?

frozencobra50 said:The Chinese haven't actually been helping Russia at all. They're just exploiting the situation for their own gain. They’ll keep playing this "support" game with Russia only as long as it lines their own pockets...

They'll help them get back on their knees, and once they do, they'll grab whatever they think they're owed—and trust me, they think they're owed a lot.

gentlerider7 said:You're totally panicking here.

And besides, just because the Americans were right about this doesn't mean you can blindly trust every single thing they analyze. If they say Putin is probably shitting himself, then yeah, he probably is, but that's about it.

They might as well tell us how the whole thing ends, too. My only optimistic prediction is that Putin’s inner circle meets the same fate as the Romanovs.
Looking at the current state of Russia, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Man, I was scrolling through some tweets with videos of mobilized guys boarding buses and just slowly pulling away.
You see women crying, kids crying, even the guys themselves—there’s none of that "rah rah" cheering energy at all...
And then you see people just watching them go, almost like they're picking up groceries. It's honestly pretty grim.

Terry Green3 said:They might as well tell us how the whole thing ends, too. My only optimistic prediction is that Putin’s inner circle meets the same fate as the Romanovs.
Looking at the current state of Russia, I wouldn't hold my breath.

Then you've got other scenarios on the table, like an internal coup. Maybe Gerasimov or Patrushev grabs the reins and works out some kind of exit strategy from Ukraine, even if Russia stays stuck being an autocratic, isolated wreck. That actually seems way more likely than some grand October Revolution happening, right?

Sure, Russia is struggling right now, but everything changes when there's a real chance people get drafted into the war instead of just watching the chaos unfold on the news. It's easy to sit back and stay passive when someone else's house is the one on fire. But hey, anything can happen—even a full-blown uprising.

James Chavez91 said:Man, I was scrolling through some tweets with videos of mobilized guys boarding buses and just slowly pulling away.
You see women crying, kids crying, even the guys themselves—there’s none of that "rah rah" cheering energy at all...
And then you see people just watching them go, almost like they're picking up groceries. It's honestly pretty grim.

The last time anyone went out waving flowers was during WWI. I don't think it's happened since.

And look, you can't just say the Russian Revolution happened the second WWI kicked off; it wasn't that simple, right? It took a perfect storm of things hitting all at once—we're talking an army that was totally spent and starving, a brutal war of attrition that just drags on forever, and, of course, a revolutionary group that actually knew how to pull the strings. As for those first two issues, there hasn't been nearly enough time for them to reach a breaking point yet, and that third piece of the puzzle? Well, that's still more of a pipe dream for now, though I guess you can't ever say it's completely off the table, can you?