Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

hollowdriver13 said:He managed to get Sweden lift the ban on arms sales, which was the whole end game, and it's even possible the US agreed to sell more F-16s.
The Kurds were basically just part of the APP region's interests, and honestly, a little bit of state propaganda too.

And on a slightly less serious note, he got NATO members to agree to call Turkey Türkiye instead of Turkey😉 😬

Ultimately, the biggest loser here was the Greek ego. They try so hard, but to Americans, they’ll always be second fiddle to the Turks.

Well. The Kurds ended up just like the Afghans.

The egos of the Finns and Swedes are about to take a serious hit once those champions of progress and national pride get brought back down to earth.

– The requirement for Finland and Sweden to overhaul their national laws and military industry practices regarding counter-terrorism efforts.

The dictator basically drafted the new legal framework for them.
Maybe they'll stop acting so superior now that they're viewed as less developed nations in the eyes of others.

A little bit of both happy and sad for me.😁

Regarding point 6 about changing the legislation in Finland and Sweden—it looks like Turkish lawyers did a thorough job studying exactly what needs to change.

Before all Americans start voting for some third party, maybe those Scandinavians should stop lecturing us about how great their welfare states are.*

* Not including the Finns, obviously—they're alright in my book.

analogbear5 said:Before all Americans start voting for some third party, maybe those Scandinavians should stop lecturing us about how great their welfare states are.*

* Not including the Finns, obviously—they're alright in my book.

At least now we Americans can always count on being the punchline at the local volleyball game.
Suleiman the Magnificent is known as the Legislator in Turkey.

Personally, I’m just going to start calling Erdogan the Finnish/Swedish legislator. 😒

So, looks like Indonesia had a change of heart and isn't going to invite Putin to the G20 anymore. It honestly feels like Russia's little economic special operation in the East is moving right along according to plan. It’s such a total scam, you know? They invite you to the party and then cancel on you at the last second. I bet Lavrov and those trolls will have a field day spinning this one real quick.

https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-...-moscow-times/

Indonesian President Joko Widodo ruled out The presence of Russian President Vladimir Putin AT The G20 summit in November. This was announced by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi following a meeting of The G7 leaders in The Bavarian Alps on Tuesday.

Widodo, who has been playing it pretty safe and avoiding any direct criticism regarding the war in Ukraine, invited Putin in April, which ended up putting him right in the crosshairs of Western countries Who demanded that The Russian President be excluded fra The event.

Since Widodo was actually there as a guest for the G7 summit, Draghi mentioned that the President of Indonesia Had changed his mind.

goldenowl73 said:So, looks like Indonesia had a change of heart and isn't going to invite Putin to the G20 anymore. It honestly feels like Russia's little economic special operation in the East is moving right along according to plan. It’s such a total scam, you know? They invite you to the party and then cancel on you at the last second. I bet Lavrov and those trolls will have a field day spinning this one real quick.

https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-...-moscow-times/

Indonesian President Joko Widodo ruled out The presence of Russian President Vladimir Putin AT The G20 summit in November. This was announced by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi following a meeting of The G7 leaders in The Bavarian Alps on Tuesday.

Widodo, who has been playing it pretty safe and avoiding any direct criticism regarding the war in Ukraine, invited Putin in April, which ended up putting him right in the crosshairs of Western countries Who demanded that The Russian President be excluded fra The event.

Since Widodo was actually there as a guest for the G7 summit, Draghi mentioned that the President of Indonesia Had changed his mind.

Some people keep praising Indonesia like it’s some kind of miracle cure. Under intense pressure. And yet, she still extended an invitation to Putin.
It only takes a second day for them to fold. I don't know what you're trying to say with that. 🤣🙏
Scholz actually threatened not to show up if Putin is attending, among other things. A bit unexpected, honestly.

From having 300,000 soldiers on standby back in 2023 for those who want NATO, Germany is now looking at announcing just 15,000.

So, I’m scrolling through the comments under an article on RIA Novosti regarding the lifting of the Turkish veto on Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Let's just say the commenters aren't exactly celebrating this news.

Here are some of the most intense ones (translated via Google):

• Yes, here the prophecy of all predictors comes true. As they predicted There : Evil will ris against Russia , There will be a cruel War in which Russia will win and The World will Change , and World will Come , and Russians will Rul The World and prosperity will flourish All over The World.

• Turkey is the enemy! Those Who spend their vacation in Turkey pay for The murder of Russian soldiers.

• Not a problem. WE have enough Iskanders and Sarmatians for everyone.

• Knock-knock, nuclear war is already knocking on your door... a little later you will see it and don't say you weren't warned.

• There should never be June 22 again in Russia ( dan žalost !!!! Only a preemptive strike!!! Let their mothers cry better than ours ☝️ glory to Russia

• Well, okay. Russia will Plant missiles on the border with Finland and Sweden and aim them AT Helsinki and Stockholm. At the same time, economic relations with these hostile countries will cool down and there will be purely business-capitalist relations. >, Russian Air, naval and armored forces will be brought up to the borders of Finland.

• The American bandit virus has captured the entire corrupt world, except for Great Russia!.

• We are waiting for Russia's response that will bury Erdogan!

• Turkey must be punished! Severely punished! For NATO! For bayraktars! Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, include Turkey in the list of countries enemies of Russia!

...and a gold star goes to this comment (my own bolded pick):

• NATO is now even stronger. But unlike Russia, we do not use our power to subdue others. We use it to protect ourselves.

It isn't easy being a hothead in Russia today: NATO is the enemy, Ukrainians are Nazis, Turks are traitors, the USA is the embodiment of evil, Swedes and Finns have no idea what's coming for them, and Poles are stupid. Who's next?

Mind you, you can still find the occasional person thinking outside the box among the comments (though unfortunately, they are rare):

• Another strategic triumph for the smart Mr. Putin.

• I can imagine how the propagandists are now furious. A complete failure of Putin's geopolitics. Thanks to Turkey for humiliating him.

rowdytiger13 said:Some people keep praising Indonesia like it’s some kind of miracle cure. Under intense pressure. And yet, she still extended an invitation to Putin.
It only takes a second day for them to fold. I don't know what you're trying to say with that. 🤣🙏
Scholz actually threatened not to show up if Putin is attending, among other things. A bit unexpected, honestly.

From having 300,000 soldiers on standby back in 2023 for those who want NATO, Germany is now looking at announcing just 15,000.

The day before yesterday, when a reporter asked Ursula von der Leyen if it was okay for Putin to visit Indonesia or if he should just call in from Moscow, she replied: "No, he needs to be told to his face what we think of him."

https://www.news18.com/news/world/im...n-5447815.html

Such a shame, a missed opportunity ☕...

This morning I heard that Italy is planning an increase of 10,000, but don't take that as gospel—either because Italians can be cowards (aside from their Prime Minister), or because I was sleepy and hadn't had my coffee yet (it was only 5:40 AM). 🕺

I honestly think a huge chunk of those comments are just bots. You see it all the time on Mexican news sites, and frankly, you see plenty of it on our own local outlets too.

1788., 1903., 1956., 2022... it doesn't matter to them; the changes are purely technical.

wearyheron5 said:So, I’m scrolling through the comments under an article on RIA Novosti regarding the lifting of the Turkish veto on Finland and Sweden joining NATO. Let's just say the commenters aren't exactly celebrating this news.

Here are some of the most intense ones (translated via Google):

• Yes, here the prophecy of all predictors comes true. As they predicted There : Evil will ris against Russia , There will be a cruel War in which Russia will win and The World will Change , and World will Come , and Russians will Rul The World and prosperity will flourish All over The World.

• Turkey is the enemy! Those Who spend their vacation in Turkey pay for The murder of Russian soldiers.

• Not a problem. WE have enough Iskanders and Sarmatians for everyone.

• Knock-knock, nuclear war is already knocking on your door... a little later you will see it and don't say you weren't warned.

• There should never be June 22 again in Russia ( dan žalost !!!! Only a preemptive strike!!! Let their mothers cry better than ours ☝️ glory to Russia

• Well, okay. Russia will Plant missiles on the border with Finland and Sweden and aim them AT Helsinki and Stockholm. At the same time, economic relations with these hostile countries will cool down and there will be purely business-capitalist relations. >, Russian Air, naval and armored forces will be brought up to the borders of Finland.

• The American bandit virus has captured the entire corrupt world, except for Great Russia!.

• We are waiting for Russia's response that will bury Erdogan!

• Turkey must be punished! Severely punished! For NATO! For bayraktars! Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, include Turkey in the list of countries enemies of Russia!

...and a gold star goes to this comment (my own bolded pick):

• NATO is now even stronger. But unlike Russia, we do not use our power to subdue others. We use it to protect ourselves.

It isn't easy being a hothead in Russia today: NATO is the enemy, Ukrainians are Nazis, Turks are traitors, the USA is the embodiment of evil, Swedes and Finns have no idea what's coming for them, and Poles are stupid. Who's next?

Mind you, you can still find the occasional person thinking outside the box among the comments (though unfortunately, they are rare):

• Another strategic triumph for the smart Mr. Putin.

• I can imagine how the propagandists are now furious. A complete failure of Putin's geopolitics. Thanks to Turkey for humiliating him.

Anyone actually thinking for themselves is in danger. It takes a lot of guts to live in Russia and write comments that go against the state narrative. I'm surprised even one exists.
Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if these were planted by propagandists just to make it look like there's someone in Russia who thinks differently. They know people read this stuff outside of Russia.

goldenowl73 said:So, looks like Indonesia had a change of heart and isn't going to invite Putin to the G20 anymore. It honestly feels like Russia's little economic special operation in the East is moving right along according to plan. It’s such a total scam, you know? They invite you to the party and then cancel on you at the last second. I bet Lavrov and those trolls will have a field day spinning this one real quick.

https://hindustannewshub.com/russia-...-moscow-times/

Indonesian President Joko Widodo ruled out The presence of Russian President Vladimir Putin AT The G20 summit in November. This was announced by Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi following a meeting of The G7 leaders in The Bavarian Alps on Tuesday.

Widodo, who has been playing it pretty safe and avoiding any direct criticism regarding the war in Ukraine, invited Putin in April, which ended up putting him right in the crosshairs of Western countries Who demanded that The Russian President be excluded fra The event.

Since Widodo was actually there as a guest for the G7 summit, Draghi mentioned that the President of Indonesia Had changed his mind.

☕Honestly, why even bother inviting him until the war in Ukraine is over? It's pointless and wouldn't achieve anything—nobody actually wants to sit down and talk to him at that meeting anyway. Putin is a finished man, both in the West and pretty soon in Russia too. He'll be ousted, and his inner circle will probably just ship him off to one of his many villas to go fishing and relax...

Sandra Harris2 said:The day before yesterday, when a reporter asked Ursula von der Leyen if it was okay for Putin to visit Indonesia or if he should just call in from Moscow, she replied: "No, he needs to be told to his face what we think of him."

https://www.news18.com/news/world/im...n-5447815.html

Such a shame, a missed opportunity ☕...

This morning I heard that Italy is planning an increase of 10,000, but don't take that as gospel—either because Italians can be cowards (aside from their Prime Minister), or because I was sleepy and hadn't had my coffee yet (it was only 5:40 AM). 🕺

And apparently, Ursula has found her backbone.
The threat of nuclear war is really moving along nicely.

I stumbled upon a fascinating lecture on Twitter regarding the causes and consequences of this war.

Speaker: John J. Mearsheimer

I’m not sure if anyone else has stumbled upon this yet, but man, it’s definitely worth a listen if you have some time...

Sandra Harris2 said:The day before yesterday, when a reporter asked Ursula von der Leyen if it was okay for Putin to visit Indonesia or if he should just call in from Moscow, she replied: "No, he needs to be told to his face what we think of him."

https://www.news18.com/news/world/im...n-5447815.html

Such a shame, a missed opportunity ☕...

This morning I heard that Italy is planning an increase of 10,000, but don't take that as gospel—either because Italians can be cowards (aside from their Prime Minister), or because I was sleepy and hadn't had my coffee yet (it was only 5:40 AM). 🕺

Would that make someone weep, or just lose their mind?☕

Samuel Rodriguez52 said:Looks like Recep Tayyip Erdoğan finally gave in! Turkey, Sweden, and Finland have officially signed a trilateral memorandum, which I guess should really clear the path for both Finland and Sweden to join NATO.

Source: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_197251.htm

Those Swedes love to lecture everyone else about human rights, acting like they’re the ultimate benchmark for freedom and democracy.
But now? Just like that, they’re going to hand over the Kurds to whatever fate comes their way just to satisfy an agreement with Turkey.
Honestly... hats off to you, Sweden... the supposed guardians of civil liberties and human rights, turning their backs on those very principles at the first opportunity.
It is hypocrisy at its absolute finest!

Jessica Peterson2 said:Would that make someone weep, or just lose their mind?☕

Come on, Vladek wouldn't be whining like that—what's wrong with you? He's a total macho man.🙂

Maybe if you poked him hard enough, a vein might actually pop out from under all those layers of Botox or whatever else he's got going on.😬🕺

They’re basically calling for the Ukrainian military and leadership to just throw in the towel.
Total surrealism, honestly.

Sandra Harris2 said:Come on, Vladek wouldn't be whining like that—what's wrong with you? He's a total macho man.🙂

Maybe if you poked him hard enough, a vein might actually pop out from under all those layers of Botox or whatever else he's got going on.😬🕺

From what I hear, the Botox manufacturer has actually halted exports to Russia. 😉