Sanctions on Russia

wiredseal7 said:Just some joke of a Ukrainian website—apparently they're the ones who know all about Shoigu heading to North Korea for rockets. 😂

Deutsche Bank is denying services to people of Russian descent, calling it "excessive":

As long as nobody actually shoots anyone over this hysteria, I guess we're still doing okay.

Well, at least ten thousand Russians have been shot already.

Dennis Price said:Well, at least ten thousand Russians have been shot already.

Nice spin.👍
Most of them actually died from explosions.

wiredseal7 said:Just some joke of a Ukrainian website—apparently they're the ones who know all about Shoigu heading to North Korea for rockets. 😂

Deutsche Bank is denying services to people of Russian descent, calling it "excessive":

As long as nobody actually shoots anyone over this hysteria, I guess we're still doing okay.

Were those Russian fascist parades through Berlin not considered excessive?

Anthony Hill5 said:Were those Russian fascist parades through Berlin not considered excessive?

Even without using the word "fascist"—and I'd rather stay out of that lane—they definitely aren't appropriate.

wiredseal7 said:Just some joke of a Ukrainian website—apparently they're the ones who know all about Shoigu heading to North Korea for rockets. 😂

Deutsche Bank is denying services to people of Russian descent, calling it "excessive":

As long as nobody actually shoots anyone over this hysteria, I guess we're still doing okay.

that site is just reporting what Leonid Nevzlin actually said during his interview.

Melissa Bailey5 said:that site is just reporting what Leonid Nevzlin actually said during his interview.

Is that guy?
Leonid Nevzlin—the guy at the center of that whole mess with Yukos—is basically a walking case study in how messy international business and politics get when they collide. After everything went down with the government seizing his assets, he ended up fighting back through the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which actually sided with him and the other shareholders, calling out the state's move as a calculated attempt to wipe out the company. It’s one of those classic stories where you see exactly how much leverage a massive corporation can have against a state, even after they've tried to tear it all down.
Looks like the guy from Yukos—sentenced in absentia—just bolted for Israel.

Probably just some unreliable source looking to spread misinformation—not exactly a gold standard for truth.

New US sanctions incoming

A high-ranking American official told reporters that these new sanctions will essentially freeze JPMorgan Chase—which holds about a third of all Russian banking assets—along with Alphabet Inc. All energy-related transactions have been blocked as well.

The US is also hitting the inner circle—specifically targeting the daughters of Vladimir Putin, the wife and daughter of Sergey Lavrov, and several members of the national security council.

American investors are now barred from putting money into Russia, even through joint ventures or corporate mergers.

By choking off these major banks, the US is "dramatically escalating" the financial shockwave within Russia; one official suggested the country might end up feeling like it's back in the Soviet era.

https://hr.n1info.com/svijet/amerika...it-ce-razoran/

While meeting in Brussels on Wednesday, Secretary of State Gordan Grlić Radman announced that America will also be expelling certain Russian diplomats—matching the moves already made by various NATO and European Union allies.

“We are doing this out of solidarity and in response to the current situation—to those horrific scenes coming out of Bucha and other parts of Ukraine,” Grlić Radman stated while arriving at the NATO foreign ministers' summit.

https://hr.n1info.com/vijesti/grlic-...kih-diplomata/

wiredseal7 said:Is that guy?
Leonid Nevzlin—the guy at the center of that whole mess with Yukos—is basically a walking case study in how messy international business and politics get when they collide. After everything went down with the government seizing his assets, he ended up fighting back through the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which actually sided with him and the other shareholders, calling out the state's move as a calculated attempt to wipe out the company. It’s one of those classic stories where you see exactly how much leverage a massive corporation can have against a state, even after they've tried to tear it all down.
Looks like the guy from Yukos—sentenced in absentia—just bolted for Israel.

Probably just some unreliable source looking to spread misinformation—not exactly a gold standard for truth.

🤣

How can one trust such a source when the individual was convicted by a dictator and criminal like Putin in a completely rigged trial? Is that not reason enough to doubt him?

I won't even dignify the omission of this specific detail from the Wikipedia page you linked with a comment.

In 2014, the Permanent Court of Arbitration ruling favored Nevzlin and other Yukos shareholders, calling the actions of the Russian state "a ruthless campaign to destroy Yukos and to expropriate its assets".

But clearly, that part is entirely irrelevant, isn't it? So much for your claims regarding a tendency toward disinformation. 😁

And we’re moving!
Tomorrow morning, the European Union Parliament will vote on an embargo against imports from Russia—specifically targeting oil, coal, and nuclear fuels.

After some intense negotiations among all 27 member states, everyone expects the embargo to pass with a majority. If it does, it goes into effect immediately...

Ultimately, Parliament is expected to call for "a complete and immediate embargo on imports of Russian oil, coal, and nuclear fuels", while regarding gas, they say the ban should happen "as soon as possible."

The gas import embargo should also be coming fast!

wiredseal7 said:Is that guy?
Leonid Nevzlin—the guy at the center of that whole mess with Yukos—is basically a walking case study in how messy international business and politics get when they collide. After everything went down with the government seizing his assets, he ended up fighting back through the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which actually sided with him and the other shareholders, calling out the state's move as a calculated attempt to wipe out the company. It’s one of those classic stories where you see exactly how much leverage a massive corporation can have against a state, even after they've tried to tear it all down.
Looks like the guy from Yukos—sentenced in absentia—just bolted for Israel.

Probably just some unreliable source looking to spread misinformation—not exactly a gold standard for truth.

First you thought Ukraine was just a joke, then once you realized where the info was coming from and googled Leonid Nevzlin, suddenly he's unreliable.🙄

Sam Alvarez4 said:And we’re moving!
Tomorrow morning, the European Union Parliament will vote on an embargo against imports from Russia—specifically targeting oil, coal, and nuclear fuels.

After some intense negotiations among all 27 member states, everyone expects the embargo to pass with a majority. If it does, it goes into effect immediately...

Ultimately, Parliament is expected to call for "a complete and immediate embargo on imports of Russian oil, coal, and nuclear fuels", while regarding gas, they say the ban should happen "as soon as possible."

The gas import embargo should also be coming fast!

👋

Sam Alvarez4 said:And we’re moving!
Tomorrow morning, the European Union Parliament will vote on an embargo against imports from Russia—specifically targeting oil, coal, and nuclear fuels.

After some intense negotiations among all 27 member states, everyone expects the embargo to pass with a majority. If it does, it goes into effect immediately...

Ultimately, Parliament is expected to call for "a complete and immediate embargo on imports of Russian oil, coal, and nuclear fuels", while regarding gas, they say the ban should happen "as soon as possible."

The gas import embargo should also be coming fast!

Here's the interesting part: View on twitter
He woke up with yet another round of sanctions ready to go...

Anthony Hill5 said:🤣

How can one trust such a source when the individual was convicted by a dictator and criminal like Putin in a completely rigged trial? Is that not reason enough to doubt him?

I won't even dignify the omission of this specific detail from the Wikipedia page you linked with a comment.

In 2014, the Permanent Court of Arbitration ruling favored Nevzlin and other Yukos shareholders, calling the actions of the Russian state "a ruthless campaign to destroy Yukos and to expropriate its assets".

But clearly, that part is entirely irrelevant, isn't it? So much for your claims regarding a tendency toward disinformation. 😁

You jumped straight to defending crooks and massive oligarchs like Khodorkovsky or this whole situation.

They got exactly what they asked for. Honestly, if more of them ended up like that—take Abramovich, for example—it would be a win. At least their money doesn't stay sitting in London.

You're also dodging the main point, regardless of the specifics—which is that this guy has plenty of reason to push disinformation about Russia the second he gets a chance. Just like Khodorkovsky does because of his grudge against his own homeland.

Melissa Bailey5 said:First you thought Ukraine was just a joke, then once you realized where the info was coming from and googled Leonid Nevzlin, suddenly he's unreliable.🙄

👋

So I'm just lying and pushing propaganda? That guy is a joke too, much like any site that actually gives him a platform.
Learn to take everything with a grain of salt during a war. That means both the US and Russian sites.

wiredseal7 said:You jumped straight to defending crooks and massive oligarchs like Khodorkovsky or this whole situation.

They got exactly what they asked for. Honestly, if more of them ended up like that—take Abramovich, for example—it would be a win. At least their money doesn't stay sitting in London.

You're also dodging the main point, regardless of the specifics—which is that this guy has plenty of reason to push disinformation about Russia the second he gets a chance. Just like Khodorkovsky does because of his grudge against his own homeland.

So I'm just lying and pushing propaganda? That guy is a joke too, much like any site that actually gives him a platform.
Learn to take everything with a grain of salt during a war. That means both the US and Russian sites.

My friend, you clearly have no grasp of the Yukos situation, the trial, or even the basis of the charges and convictions. The sheer absurdity and blatant unfairness of that legal proceeding make reading your little Putin-style pamphlets nothing short of a comedy. The actual court ruling states he is not guilty of the charges, which proves I am not out here defending any criminals.

The only thing more egregious than that was what happened to Magnitsky.

Btw Khodorkovsky doesn't have an issue with his country; his issue is with Putin, who is destroying it. I realize that in your particular parallel universe, you view it as Putin Russia, but let's be realistic.

wiredseal7 said:You jumped straight to defending crooks and massive oligarchs like Khodorkovsky or this whole situation.

They got exactly what they asked for. Honestly, if more of them ended up like that—take Abramovich, for example—it would be a win. At least their money doesn't stay sitting in London.

You're also dodging the main point, regardless of the specifics—which is that this guy has plenty of reason to push disinformation about Russia the second he gets a chance. Just like Khodorkovsky does because of his grudge against his own homeland.

So I'm just lying and pushing propaganda? That guy is a joke too, much like any site that actually gives him a platform.
Learn to take everything with a grain of salt during a war. That means both the US and Russian sites.

Nah, I think you're just being dense because you can't seem to tell the difference between actual information and the source that's feeding it to you.

Melissa Bailey5 said:Nah, I think you're just being dense because you can't seem to tell the difference between actual information and the source that's feeding it to you.

If we're going to buy into this idea that SIG is wiring missiles to North Korea—which sounds pretty absurd—we're going to need something more substantial than some random tip from a Ukrainian outlet or an ex-Yukos dissident.

I didn't know who the guy was at first, but once I did, it just made me even more skeptical.

First your site was just straight-up hilarious, but now you're really leaning into those edgy references 😉

Melissa Bailey5 said:First your site was just straight-up hilarious, but now you're really leaning into those edgy references 😉

Maybe try getting your news from actual reliable sources for once.😉

Anthony Hill5 said:🤣

How can one trust such a source when the individual was convicted by a dictator and criminal like Putin in a completely rigged trial? Is that not reason enough to doubt him?

I won't even dignify the omission of this specific detail from the Wikipedia page you linked with a comment.

In 2014, the Permanent Court of Arbitration ruling favored Nevzlin and other Yukos shareholders, calling the actions of the Russian state "a ruthless campaign to destroy Yukos and to expropriate its assets".

But clearly, that part is entirely irrelevant, isn't it? So much for your claims regarding a tendency toward disinformation. 😁

That court doesn't matter because it isn't Putin's.
Only Putin's courts carry any weight.

A fiery speech by a Belgian MEP regarding sanctions against Russia

https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/s...kF8i1ce1A&s=19

Sam Alvarez4 said:But if it's coming from Brussels, the message is clear: Germany, France—everyone is on board.

Our folks just don't seem to get it...

Fine, let's take it slow then. 😁
Here's our take: