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Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#3081 ·
Paul Anderson7 said:An American might just step up to show the rest of the world that those who decide to snub Russia still have plenty of options on the table. Every single dollar invested essentially returns a hundredfold by chipping away at Russian strength and their overall influence.
Russia is getting weaker by the day, yet the alternatives remain. At this rate, even a Mexican might find an American worth paying attention to.

If Mexico were to pivot toward the NATO camp right now, they could potentially secure concessions regarding northern Mexico and Canada.

The tricky part—the real catch—is that because of what is happening in Ukraine, borders simply cannot be redrawn at this moment.
Otherwise, the payoff would be much greater.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#3082 ·
Finland has officially pulled the plug on their partnership with Russia regarding the construction of a nuclear reactor
View on twitter
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#3083 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Finland has officially pulled the plug on their partnership with Russia regarding the construction of a nuclear reactor
View on twitter

Well, it’s not just about the Finns, because the Russians still have quite a footprint in Canada—they actually started building a reactor over at the Paks plant this year, and there's even another one on the drawing board.
Then you've got them working through a subsidiary of Skoda JS (which, just to be clear, isn't the car company, but a totally separate firm out of the Czech Republic) to build two reactors in Slovakia, though those should be getting pretty close to the finish line soon enough.
They're also heavily involved in constructing three reactors in Turkey, with a fourth one already being planned.

On top of all that, they still control a massive chunk of the market when it comes to nuclear fuel.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#3084 ·
Could we be looking at an embargo compromise? Maybe Canada and Slovakia get a pass?
https://twitter.com/SamRamani2/statu...VrIO4zJyg&s=19
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#3085 ·
The terminal on Krk is running overtime. Honestly, would anyone even expect the intelligence agencies to be vetting every single person who was out there protesting so aggressively against it? It’s just not realistic to ask for that level of scrutiny.
https://twitter.com/ASabadus/status/...sMFUzerMA&s=19
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#3086 ·
A bio would be appropriate here.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#3087 ·
First off, they really ought to take a closer look at those same Green activists who weren't just protesting LNG terminals, but were also up in arms against that oil pipeline project aimed at exporting crude via the Gulf Coast.
Second suspect? Honestly, I’d point the finger straight at Joe Biden. 😁 He basically choked out the construction of actual, large-scale LNG infrastructure by pushing for these floating units instead—which, let’s be real, have way less capacity since they can't just unload whenever they want. When they're out grabbing cargo, there's no gas coming in.

So yeah, nothing groundbreaking here. 🙂
Kenneth Cruz67 Kenneth Cruz67 Regular
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#3088 ·
rustywalker82 said:First off, they really ought to take a closer look at those same Green activists who weren't just protesting LNG terminals, but were also up in arms against that oil pipeline project aimed at exporting crude via the Gulf Coast.
Second suspect? Honestly, I’d point the finger straight at Joe Biden. 😁 He basically choked out the construction of actual, large-scale LNG infrastructure by pushing for these floating units instead—which, let’s be real, have way less capacity since they can't just unload whenever they want. When they're out grabbing cargo, there's no gas coming in.

So yeah, nothing groundbreaking here. 🙂

Wait, what? I'm a little lost here. Could you maybe explain what you mean by that? 🤔🤣
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#3089 ·
Kenneth Cruz67 said:Wait, what? I'm a little lost here. Could you maybe explain what you mean by that? 🤔🤣

What do you mean by that? Why would there be no gas just because the tankers sail away?
It's because those tankers are out in, I don't know, the States, not here in America... Even if you actually manage to snag enough ships—which is a whole different beast before versus after an embargo—you're still stuck dealing with how slow it is to unload cargo from floating LNG terminals.
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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#3090 ·
Carl Lee27 said:The terminal on Krk is running overtime. Honestly, would anyone even expect the intelligence agencies to be vetting every single person who was out there protesting so aggressively against it? It’s just not realistic to ask for that level of scrutiny.
https://twitter.com/ASabadus/status/...sMFUzerMA&s=19

It's easy to play the genius after the fact. Maybe you had a crystal ball back then?
Back then, it felt like one guy was offering you a faucet and running water, while the other was telling you to carry buckets from a creek...
And you say, "Fine, I'll take the creek," because it feels safer and the buckets are brand new.

I'm no activist. I just look at what was actually on the table at the time.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#3091 ·
rustywalker82 said:First off, they really ought to take a closer look at those same Green activists who weren't just protesting LNG terminals, but were also up in arms against that oil pipeline project aimed at exporting crude via the Gulf Coast.
Second suspect? Honestly, I’d point the finger straight at Joe Biden. 😁 He basically choked out the construction of actual, large-scale LNG infrastructure by pushing for these floating units instead—which, let’s be real, have way less capacity since they can't just unload whenever they want. When they're out grabbing cargo, there's no gas coming in.

So yeah, nothing groundbreaking here. 🙂

Not many people can cram this much nonsense into such a tiny post. Gotta respect the brevity, though.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
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#3092 ·
Melissa Kelly3 said:It's easy to play the genius after the fact. Maybe you had a crystal ball back then?
Back then, it felt like one guy was offering you a faucet and running water, while the other was telling you to carry buckets from a creek...
And you say, "Fine, I'll take the creek," because it feels safer and the buckets are brand new.

I'm no activist. I just look at what was actually on the table at the time.

It isn't even about politics or being eco-conscious. It's just pure NIMBYism. Everyone wants cheap gas, cheap nuclear, cheap everything—as long as it's nowhere near my neck of the woods.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#3093 ·
Here are two links, mostly for those fake intellectuals hiding out in their little holes, thinking they can stay anonymous. 😁

The energy landscape is shifting again, and honestly, it’s getting pretty wild to follow. There’s a lot of noise right now about the future of gas supply and how we're going to stay powered up without relying on old-school, problematic sources. I was reading up on the latest moves regarding the LNG terminal on Kodiak, and it’s clear that the stakes couldn't be higher. We’re looking at a massive pivot in how the US handles energy security. For years, everyone was worried about being held hostage by foreign pipelines, but now that we've ramped up our own LNG capabilities, the whole dynamic has changed. It's not just about having the fuel; it's about who controls the tap. It reminds me of a few years back when I was working a gig out near Houston. Everyone was talking about "energy independence" like it was some holy grail, but seeing the actual infrastructure—the massive tankers, the specialized terminals—you realize it's a heavy lift. It's not just flipping a switch. You need the tech, the ports, and the political will to keep it moving. Right now, there's this tension between those pushing for more green initiatives and the folks who realize we still need reliable gas to keep the lights on and the factories running. It’s a delicate balance. If we lean too hard into one side without securing the other, we’re asking for trouble. The pushback against certain LNG projects is growing, which adds another layer of complexity to an already messy situation. At the end of the day, whether you're pro-environment or pro-industry, we all want the same thing: stability. No one wants their heating bill to double because of a geopolitical hiccup halfway across the world. We're basically rebuilding the foundation of American energy in real-time, and it's definitely not going to be a smooth ride.
Posted: July 4, 2013
Washington, D.C. — The US is really eyeing that land-based LNG terminal over on Kodiak, hoping to hit a capacity of about 6 billion cubic meters a year.
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I just caught wind of this latest drama regarding the LNG terminal situation, and honestly, it’s getting old. You see these massive debates popping up all over the news lately about energy security and whether we're actually making the right moves to stay independent. It feels like every time we get close to securing our own supply through projects like the one on Kodiak, someone jumps out of the woodwork to scream "environmental crisis." It’s a classic tug-of-war. On one hand, you've got the urgent need to stop relying on Russian gas—which we all know is a recipe for disaster given how Putin plays the game—and on the other, you have these intense anti-LNG groups who think any major infrastructure project is an attack on the planet. I remember back when I was working construction near a major refinery out in Texas, we used to talk about this constantly. People living nearby were always split. Half the town relied on those jobs and that stability, while the other half was terrified of any change to the status quo. It's that same tension playing out on a national level now. The government is trying to walk this tightrope, balancing the need for energy autonomy with the pressure from Green Action America and similar groups. But let's be real: if we don't have reliable access to LNG, we're basically leaving the lights on at the mercy of whoever holds the valve. It's not just about politics; it's about keeping the heat running in the middle of a blizzard in Chicago or Denver. We can't afford to be indecisive when the stakes are this high.
Posted: January 5, 2016
The US is really leaning on us to go with a floating LNG terminal instead of building one on land. It feels like they're pushing their own agenda here, trying to steer our energy infrastructure toward whatever suits them best rather than what actually makes sense for our local needs.
The pressure from the US really hit its peak when Joe Biden made his way to Washington, D.C.


So, we went ahead and built that floating unit, but it’s only got about half the capacity we originally talked about.
A Green...

The whole push against LNG projects around here is getting intense, and honestly, it’s about time we had this conversation out in the open. We're seeing this massive surge in fossil fuel infrastructure being fast-tracked under the guise of "energy security," but if you look closer, it feels like we're just swapping one dependency for another. It’s basically the same old game played with different players. I was chatting with a buddy of mine who works in logistics down in Houston, and he was telling me how these massive terminal expansions are being treated like they're some kind of silver bullet. But let's be real—building out huge fleets of LNG tankers isn't exactly a "Green" move. It’s a massive bet on gas that keeps us tethered to volatile global markets and leaves us vulnerable to whoever controls the supply lines. The activists fighting this aren't just being difficult for the sake of it. They’re pointing out that while we claim to be transitioning to renewables, we're actually doubling down on carbon-heavy infrastructure that will be locked in for decades. It’s like buying a gas-guzzling SUV right when everyone is moving toward EVs; it feels outdated before the concrete even dries. We need to stop treating these temporary fixes like permanent solutions. If we want actual energy independence and a way to hit our climate goals, we have to focus on the stuff that actually lasts—like wind, solar, and a modernized grid—rather than pouring billions into more pipelines and regasification plants. Otherwise, we're just spinning our wheels.
The whole "Anti-LNG" campaign is basically trying to kill the plan to build that massive LNG terminal out on Kodiak Island—and they're coming after both the floating setup and the land-based one. It’s being spearheaded by Green Action USA.

- The Russian Druzhba-Adria pipeline is basically like putting an oil noose around the neck of the entire Atlantic coast, not just one country. Green Action USA
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
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#3094 ·
analogbear5 said:It isn't even about politics or being eco-conscious. It's just pure NIMBYism. Everyone wants cheap gas, cheap nuclear, cheap everything—as long as it's nowhere near my neck of the woods.

I don't follow this stuff closely, but a pipeline is always cheaper than hauling barrels from one place to another. That terminal deal looked like a joke.
Like I said, I never once thought those Russian idiots were planning to drive tankers through open fields. 😵
I was actually looking forward to those wealthy Russian tourists who don't care about the price tag, but then they shut down the airspace. 🤦
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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#3095 ·
rustywalker82 said:What do you mean by that? Why would there be no gas just because the tankers sail away?
It's because those tankers are out in, I don't know, the States, not here in America... Even if you actually manage to snag enough ships—which is a whole different beast before versus after an embargo—you're still stuck dealing with how slow it is to unload cargo from floating LNG terminals.

That isn't right. Storage capacity is actually 140,206 m3.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#3096 ·
What about the land routes?
If you look at how much capacity that land terminal was supposed to handle, it pretty much proves my point. When I talk about things being "small scale," I’m not trying to write a massive technical manual here—I'm just keeping it simple...

Look, I've got nothing against some local spy, or even his brother, taking a closer look at the situation to see what's really going on. 🙂
rustynomad12 rustynomad12 Member
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#3097 ·
Honestly, if you want a killer breakdown of this war and how it’s actually changing everything, check this out:
https://www.tacno.net/novosti/samoub...lgW53feotliyZY
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#3098 ·
rustynomad12 said:Honestly, if you want a killer breakdown of this war and how it’s actually changing everything, check this out:
https://www.tacno.net/novosti/samoub...lgW53feotliyZY

The writing isn't terrible, but it’s the classic "Russia is the aggressor... but..." type of justification.
It’s hardly surprising when you consider the author is someone we’ve spent years watching on TV offering nothing but praise for the USSR, COMECON, the Warsaw Pact, Jaruzelski, and the PLO.
That’s likely why they conveniently ignored the connection between the Democratic Party and the White House from the moment Putin took power until now.
The rest basically boils down to: Russia attacked, but it's not their fault—it was the Nazis, etc.—and it would be best if Ukraine just surrendered so everyone can live in peace.
It’s very much in the vein of Zoran Milanović. 😉
boldbison40 boldbison40 Member
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#3099 ·
George Robinson43 said:The writing isn't terrible, but it’s the classic "Russia is the aggressor... but..." type of justification.
It’s hardly surprising when you consider the author is someone we’ve spent years watching on TV offering nothing but praise for the USSR, COMECON, the Warsaw Pact, Jaruzelski, and the PLO.
That’s likely why they conveniently ignored the connection between the Democratic Party and the White House from the moment Putin took power until now.
The rest basically boils down to: Russia attacked, but it's not their fault—it was the Nazis, etc.—and it would be best if Ukraine just surrendered so everyone can live in peace.
It’s very much in the vein of Zoran Milanović. 😉

Personally, my favorite bit of logical gymnastics is when people bring up NATO's aggressive expansion. The reality is quite simple: the former Warsaw Pact nations were desperately trying to escape Russian influence at any cost, and now we can finally see exactly why they felt the need to run.
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#3100 ·
boldbison40 said:Personally, my favorite bit of logical gymnastics is when people bring up NATO's aggressive expansion. The reality is quite simple: the former Warsaw Pact nations were desperately trying to escape Russian influence at any cost, and now we can finally see exactly why they felt the need to run.

I don't think Jakić will ever truly grasp these nuances. I remember his stances on the USSR, the Warsaw Pact, and COMECON like they were yesterday—I watched him on the news every single day back in high school.

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