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hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#3481 ·
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/842137

The Russian Minister of Transportation basically just admitted that Western sanctions have completely wrecked their logistics setup, forcing the Federation to scramble for "alternative" ways to move goods.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#3482 ·
wiredseal7 said:You missed the point ☕. We're talking about exports from Russian ports on the Black Sea, not the Ukrainian ones where there might actually be mines.

By the way, I’m not buying this whole Russian story about their shipping lanes being mined.

They mined the coast because they were terrified of a Russian landing. A few storms washed some mines off the beaches and they ended up drifting toward the Bosphorus—but that's "already gone."

It isn't me who is lost; it is the Russians who are lost in their own web of lies.

Earlier this month, they were busy trolling everyone with claims that Ukrainian mines were drifting aimlessly across the entire Black Sea.

Clearly, these mines aren't causing any real issues for the vessels currently smuggling Ukrainian grain into Syria. After all, Wagner needs to get paid somehow, don't they? ☕

Russia accused Ukraine on Thursday of laying hundreds of mines near its coast and said some were drifting into open waters of the Black Sea and creating dangers for merchant shipping, a day after Kyiv said Moscow was responsible for planting mines https://www.reuters.com/world/europe

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-03-31/
darkwolf20 darkwolf20 Member
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#3483 ·
wiredseal7 said:So this guy claims Russians have to switch to welding tank turrets instead of casting them:
https://twitter.com/cirnosad/status/...9TvMmb7tqaICDQ
Is this actually the impact of sanctions?
Honestly, those rumors about them stopping tank production entirely because of sanctions felt like a stretch—they just delivered a fresh batch of T-90Ms to the troops the other day.

I’ve read plenty of nonsense from the Russia enthusiasts on this forum, but you really take the cake. Congratulations. 🙂

What else are our Russian brothers reporting? Is the new laser weaponry actually working? Are those Su-57s—supposedly invisible, fifth-generation fighters—successfully patrolling Nazi positions in Ukraine?
It hardly matters that they've only managed to deliver three of them to that flashy parade unit, one of which crashed on its own back in 2019.
Are our Russian brothers winning the special operation?
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#3484 ·
Andrew Miller102 said:Probably somewhere in the 5-10% range, though for us poor Americans, the real sting will come from "tactical inflation" once we fully transition over to the Euro.☕

Do you actually have a source for this, or are you just trolling without any substance?
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
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#3485 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:It isn't me who is lost; it is the Russians who are lost in their own web of lies.

Earlier this month, they were busy trolling everyone with claims that Ukrainian mines were drifting aimlessly across the entire Black Sea.

Clearly, these mines aren't causing any real issues for the vessels currently smuggling Ukrainian grain into Syria. After all, Wagner needs to get paid somehow, don't they? ☕

Russia accused Ukraine on Thursday of laying hundreds of mines near its coast and said some were drifting into open waters of the Black Sea and creating dangers for merchant shipping, a day after Kyiv said Moscow was responsible for planting mines https://www.reuters.com/world/europe

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-03-31/

Do you honestly believe the Ukrainians haven't set up minefields to defend Odessa?



Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#3486 ·
Dana Robinson4 said:Do you honestly believe the Ukrainians haven't set up minefields to defend Odessa?




I am simply questioning this Russian narrative claiming that American grain can't leave the ports due to mines drifting through the Black Sea and even into the Bosphorus, all while those very same mines supposedly vanish just as Russian vessels begin smuggling that same grain into Syria.

How is it that Russian grain manages to navigate through minefields quite easily, yet American grain finds it impossible? Could it be, perhaps, that the issue lies solely with the Russian naval blockade? 🙂
Dana Robinson4 Dana Robinson4 Active Member
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#3487 ·
"Those sanctions currently leveled against the Russian Federation have essentially crippled all logistics within our nation," according to a report from the state news agency Tass this Saturday—a rare moment where a Kremlin minister actually admits just how much damage these international measures are doing to the economy.
Anthony Hill5 said:I am simply questioning this Russian narrative claiming that American grain can't leave the ports due to mines drifting through the Black Sea and even into the Bosphorus, all while those very same mines supposedly vanish just as Russian vessels begin smuggling that same grain into Syria.

How is it that Russian grain manages to navigate through minefields quite easily, yet American grain finds it impossible? Could it be, perhaps, that the issue lies solely with the Russian naval blockade? 🙂

Is that grain actually moving out of Russian ports, or is it being funneled through a mined-out Odessa?

If you really want to see the full picture, why not just pull up MarineTraffic and take a look for yourself? Isn't it fascinating to track exactly where everyone's vessels are heading and notice which specific zones they're suddenly going out of their way to avoid?
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#3488 ·
Dana Robinson4 said:"Those sanctions currently leveled against the Russian Federation have essentially crippled all logistics within our nation," according to a report from the state news agency Tass this Saturday—a rare moment where a Kremlin minister actually admits just how much damage these international measures are doing to the economy.

Is that grain actually moving out of Russian ports, or is it being funneled through a mined-out Odessa?

If you really want to see the full picture, why not just pull up MarineTraffic and take a look for yourself? Isn't it fascinating to track exactly where everyone's vessels are heading and notice which specific zones they're suddenly going out of their way to avoid?

I couldn't say; perhaps you should consult Nebenzija (assuming it's departing from Kherson). I am merely relaying his statements regarding how Ukrainian mines are allegedly threatening the entire Black Sea and beyond.☕

In the meantime, it seems the sanctions have only served to fortify Russia while simultaneously dismantling the European Union.

A Russian minister actually admitted that these sanctions have crippled their domestic logistics. If that is the case, one can only imagine the absolute catastrophe unfolding within the EU. It stands to reason that everything there must be falling apart.

Russia’s transport minister said on Saturday that international measures intended to cripple the Russian economy have “practically broken” logistics in the country, the state news agency Tass reported, in a rare acknowledgment by a Kremlin minister of the damage sanctions are doing.

“Those sanctions that are presently imposed on the Russian Federation have practically broken all logistics in our country,” the minister, Vitaly Savelyev, said as he visited the city of Astrakhan in southern Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05...smid=url-share
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#3489 ·
Since these sanctions seem to be enriching Russia while draining the European Union, Russia should probably just ask for them to stay in place until at least 2050!
By then, the European Union will have collapsed, and Russia will have ascended to become the No. 1 economic power, easily strolling all the way to the Atlantic Ocean in just two weeks. It’ll play out exactly how those anti-Russian trolls on the forums predicted back in 2014.
Let's goooooo!
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#3490 ·
https://ir.deltaairlines.com/en/news-detail/article/58017/

Delta Air Lines just decided they aren't going to release their Q1 financial report this year.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#3491 ·
George Robinson43 said:Since these sanctions seem to be enriching Russia while draining the European Union, Russia should probably just ask for them to stay in place until at least 2050!
By then, the European Union will have collapsed, and Russia will have ascended to become the No. 1 economic power, easily strolling all the way to the Atlantic Ocean in just two weeks. It’ll play out exactly how those anti-Russian trolls on the forums predicted back in 2014.
Let's goooooo!

Let's aim for 2100 instead—it’s a nice round number.😁
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
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#3492 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Let's aim for 2100 instead—it’s a nice round number.😁

Or maybe by 2045. Just in time for the 100th anniversary of "Victory in May," so those Nazis can see just how much Russia prospers outside of their hateful little world.
silverotter72 silverotter72 Active Member
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#3493 ·
🤣

Someone really needs to break it to the Russians that they’re actually better off:
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#3494 ·
GDP could plummet by 30% by year-end
https://twitter.com/RobinBrooksIIF/s...23028623237120

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This projection assumes a total collapse in imports
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#3495 ·
Kate Lewis3 said:Or maybe by 2045. Just in time for the 100th anniversary of "Victory in May," so those Nazis can see just how much Russia prospers outside of their hateful little world.

Interesting thought. 🤣
Gerald Chavez7 said:GDP could plummet by 30% by year-end
https://twitter.com/RobinBrooksIIF/s...23028623237120

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This projection assumes a total collapse in imports

Don't forget—their industrial sector will likely start seeing layoffs soon, simply because they lack essential Western components. 😁
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#3496 ·
Sure, importing stuff is generally a good move—unless you happen to subscribe to one of those rather outdated schools of economic thought 😉
Nathan Evans78 Nathan Evans78 Regular
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#3497 ·
The World Bank reports that Iran’s economy has actually shown a lot more grit and variety than the skeptics expected, posting a 2.4 percent growth rate during 2020-21, with projections suggesting it could hit 3.1 percent in 2021-22.

Assumptions are the mothers of all massive screw-ups.
Rachel Richardson Rachel Richardson Regular
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#3498 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Sure, importing stuff is generally a good move—unless you happen to subscribe to one of those rather outdated schools of economic thought 😉

Russia is headed for a collapse; I wonder if women's soccer will see a resurgence in popularity then.😬
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#3499 ·
Rachel Richardson said:Russia is headed for a collapse; I wonder if women's soccer will see a resurgence in popularity then.😬

Oh yeah, they’re headed for a total collapse—just like what happened to the ruble a few months back.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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#3500 ·
Well, looks like the NYSE finally bounced back.

Actually, scratch that—it’s still down 50% from October, but who cares? Nobody conquered the world without making some sacrifices along the way. In the long run, this is a guaranteed win.

So, how should we toast to the crumbling ruins of the liberal-capitalist order? Maybe some vintage Napa Valley bubbly?

I mean, we had the FOREX, the gold reserves, de-dollarization, import substitution, the whole "wunderwaffe" routine... basically just 33 different flavors of copium.

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