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crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
175 messages
joined Aug 2016
#3741 ·
darkdriver said:If you're measuring how much someone actually cares by their post count, or even by the ripple effect those deaths cause in the world, well... I mean, it's kind of funny how some people feel totally fine calling everyone else immoral when they aren't exactly doing better themselves.

Glad to see the rest of the crew is on the same page.

That realization is going to keep me up tonight... 🤣
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
153 messages
joined Jun 2022
#3742 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:I honestly don't get why you weren't affected when my wife passed away.

Maybe it's just because the news wasn't running stories about your wife's death every single day—like, multiple times a day, for months on end—the way they do with everything else.

btw, I am truly sorry for your loss.
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
153 messages
joined Jun 2022
#3743 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:That realization is going to keep me up tonight... 🤣

I guess it's just more of the same from people who get really picky about who they actually feel bad for—even when everyone involved is facing the exact same fate.
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
175 messages
joined Aug 2016
#3744 ·
darkdriver said:Maybe it's just because the news wasn't running stories about your wife's death every single day—like, multiple times a day, for months on end—the way they do with everything else.

btw, I am truly sorry for your loss.

Are you suggesting every high-profile death hits everyone with the same intensity?
I don't buy it.
Besides, you're defending someone who views Ukrainian victims—who get constant coverage—in a completely different light. Same victims, same news outlets, yet two totally different perspectives on them.

darkdriver said:Maybe it's just because the news wasn't running stories about your wife's death every single day—like, multiple times a day, for months on end—the way they do with everything else.

btw, I am truly sorry for your loss.

Thanks.
crimsoncyclist71 crimsoncyclist71 Active Member
175 messages
joined Aug 2016
#3745 ·
darkdriver said:I guess it's just more of the same from people who get really picky about who they actually feel bad for—even when everyone involved is facing the exact same fate.

Sure. This morning I woke up and told myself: I'll feel bad for the victims in Ukraine, but not for those in Ethiopia. 😵
By tomorrow, I’ll have a new schedule. Maybe I'll mourn one group in the morning and the other in the afternoon.

Honestly, I can't believe you actually buy into the nonsense you just wrote. 🤣
goldenpuma84 goldenpuma84 Active Member
72 messages
joined May 2014
#3746 ·
feralnomad35 said:It’s just common sense that Americans are going to pay more attention to, and be more affected by, a war in Europe than one happening somewhere else entirely.

I mean, logically speaking, losing a family member hits a lot harder than some neighbor losing someone, right? 🙄

We all know that every single human life has equal value—that goes without saying. But it’s only natural that the media and public focus would lean toward a conflict in our own backyard rather than a war on the other side of the planet. It’s the same logic: if a massive conflict broke out in Canada, the coverage would be even more intense than what we see regarding Ukraine. That isn't hypocrisy; it's just how humans work.

Honestly, you're the only one here sounding hypocritical, peddling these empty narratives.


First off, it's not about how much we talk about something, it's about how we talk about one thing constantly while saying absolutely NOTHING about the others.

Second, the reason we don't hear much about those other conflicts is partly due to the legacy of European colonialism, and partly because the West actively played a role in tearing those societies apart. We pretend that doesn't exist, then act shocked by the actions of the Russians.

Third, Europeans tend to downplay the impact of those wars, yet they expect the whole world to be outraged over what's happening in Ukraine. In fact, they don't just downplay it—they show a total lack of interest because, in their eyes, these are just "developing" nations that the West (USA) and its allies can manipulate at will.

Fourth, the European Union didn't want Ukraine as a member before, and they aren't rushing to make it happen now. So, you have to wonder if people actually identify with the Ukrainian struggle. It feels like Europeans only feel this sudden "connection" to the Ukrainian people because it's the dominant media narrative... until now, they were just portrayed as another corrupt Eastern European mess.
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
153 messages
joined Jun 2022
#3747 ·
crimsoncyclist71 said:Are you suggesting every high-profile death hits everyone with the same intensity?
I don't buy it.
Besides, you're defending someone who views Ukrainian victims—who get constant coverage—in a completely different light. Same victims, same news outlets, yet two totally different perspectives on them.

Thanks.

As far as the media goes, I haven't touched actual TV in years. I mostly stick to news sites—everything from the super liberal stuff to the hardcore right-wing outlets—and when it comes to this war in Ukraine, I actually have a bit of a strategy.
I'll hop onto certain foreign forums where Russians are basically launching raids on the outskirts of Lisbon, then jump over to sites where Ukrainians are clearing out the last pockets of resistance near Vladivostok, and then just toss out 90% of whatever I read. That way, I'm left with maybe 10% that might—just might—be the truth.

I’m not really "defending" a specific person here; I’m attacking the logic that calls someone immoral just because they aren't losing sleep over Ukrainians, while supposedly acting like people who weep for Ukraine but couldn't care less about folks in Syria, Yemen, etc., are some kind of moral paragons.

Since we’re on a forum, I guess the only way to measure how much someone actually cares about suffering is by looking at the sheer volume of posts on a topic. And honestly? If you look at the stats, the people calling others "immoral" are getting absolutely crushed.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
292 messages
joined May 2023
#3748 ·
goldenpuma84 said:First off, it's not about how much we talk about something, it's about how we talk about one thing constantly while saying absolutely NOTHING about the others.

Second, the reason we don't hear much about those other conflicts is partly due to the legacy of European colonialism, and partly because the West actively played a role in tearing those societies apart. We pretend that doesn't exist, then act shocked by the actions of the Russians.

Third, Europeans tend to downplay the impact of those wars, yet they expect the whole world to be outraged over what's happening in Ukraine. In fact, they don't just downplay it—they show a total lack of interest because, in their eyes, these are just "developing" nations that the West (USA) and its allies can manipulate at will.

Fourth, the European Union didn't want Ukraine as a member before, and they aren't rushing to make it happen now. So, you have to wonder if people actually identify with the Ukrainian struggle. It feels like Europeans only feel this sudden "connection" to the Ukrainian people because it's the dominant media narrative... until now, they were just portrayed as another corrupt Eastern European mess.

So, here comes our colleague to give us a masterclass in pure hypocrisy and cynicism.

Does our friend support every murderous, satrapic regime on the planet? Absolutely. To him, the Chinese genocide against the Uyghur is a total fabrication, Syria was a thriving pluralistic society, Gaddafi was an enlightened and benevolent leader of a wealthy, progressive African nation, and the violence in Myanmar and the Rohingya genocide are mere myths. He fails to realize that he himself was once part of the group portraying Ukraine as nothing more than a corrupt Eastern European wasteland unworthy of sovereignty, let alone membership in a (decaying and crumbling) European Union.

But now, while cheering on all the world's villains, he decides to show up here to lecture the European Union and others about hypocrisy because they aren't "doing enough" to stop the very chaos those villains create.

Naturally, one must condemn imperialism while simultaneously rooting for it.

This is what happens to a person after years of consuming Kremlin propaganda.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
571 messages
joined Aug 2019
#3749 ·
darkdriver said:If you're measuring how much someone actually cares by their post count, or even by the ripple effect those deaths cause in the world, well... I mean, it's kind of funny how some people feel totally fine calling everyone else immoral when they aren't exactly doing better themselves.

Glad to see the rest of the crew is on the same page.

You're putting way too much weight on online debates, social media, Facebook, and all that nonsense. Get some fresh air—there's a whole world outside the internet.
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
153 messages
joined Jun 2022
#3750 ·
analogbear5 said:You're putting way too much weight on online debates, social media, Facebook, and all that nonsense. Get some fresh air—there's a whole world outside the internet.

I mean, honestly, looking at my profile registration date and my total post count... yeah, okay, you totally nailed it. I'm clearly just some basement dweller glued to a monitor, surrounded by a mountain of cigarette butts and wearing a shirt covered in mayo stains.
Believe it or not, I actually use Facebook maybe a hundred times less than I use this forum.
analogbear5 analogbear5 Regular
571 messages
joined Aug 2019
#3751 ·
Anyway, back to the topic at hand:
Russia is still pulling in an average of $800 million a day. A huge chunk of that is just thanks to prices spiking on the market. Bloomberg
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
264 messages
joined Oct 2018
#3752 ·
goldenpuma84 said:First off, it's not about how much we talk about something, it's about how we talk about one thing constantly while saying absolutely NOTHING about the others.

Second, the reason we don't hear much about those other conflicts is partly due to the legacy of European colonialism, and partly because the West actively played a role in tearing those societies apart. We pretend that doesn't exist, then act shocked by the actions of the Russians.

Third, Europeans tend to downplay the impact of those wars, yet they expect the whole world to be outraged over what's happening in Ukraine. In fact, they don't just downplay it—they show a total lack of interest because, in their eyes, these are just "developing" nations that the West (USA) and its allies can manipulate at will.

Fourth, the European Union didn't want Ukraine as a member before, and they aren't rushing to make it happen now. So, you have to wonder if people actually identify with the Ukrainian struggle. It feels like Europeans only feel this sudden "connection" to the Ukrainian people because it's the dominant media narrative... until now, they were just portrayed as another corrupt Eastern European mess.

This simply isn't true.

There was plenty of coverage regarding the conflicts in Libya and Syria—extensive, detailed, and front-page news for quite some time.

The protests against the war in Iraq actually pulled much larger crowds than what we're seeing now with the demonstrations over Ukraine. ☕
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
382 messages
joined Jan 2013
#3753 ·
goldenpuma84 said:First off, it's not about how much we talk about something, it's about how we talk about one thing constantly while saying absolutely NOTHING about the others.

Second, the reason we don't hear much about those other conflicts is partly due to the legacy of European colonialism, and partly because the West actively played a role in tearing those societies apart. We pretend that doesn't exist, then act shocked by the actions of the Russians.

Third, Europeans tend to downplay the impact of those wars, yet they expect the whole world to be outraged over what's happening in Ukraine. In fact, they don't just downplay it—they show a total lack of interest because, in their eyes, these are just "developing" nations that the West (USA) and its allies can manipulate at will.

Fourth, the European Union didn't want Ukraine as a member before, and they aren't rushing to make it happen now. So, you have to wonder if people actually identify with the Ukrainian struggle. It feels like Europeans only feel this sudden "connection" to the Ukrainian people because it's the dominant media narrative... until now, they were just portrayed as another corrupt Eastern European mess.

Exactly, empathy shouldn't depend on whether a war is happening on the European continent. In reality, this conflict in Ukraine—this whole situation in Europe—has been dragging on for eight years now, and according to UN data, about 14,000 people had already lost their lives by February 24th.
brightheron64 brightheron64 Regular
408 messages
joined Apr 2016
#3754 ·
analogbear5 said:Anyway, back to the topic at hand:
Russia is still pulling in an average of $800 million a day. A huge chunk of that is just thanks to prices spiking on the market. Bloomberg


The more we hear about them and dive into the details, the less sense this whole sanctions effectiveness thing makes to me... 🤷

The US is prepared to formally approve the transport and insurance for Russian grain and fertilizer exports
The US is ready to issue written permits to carriers and insurers to help smooth out the export of Russian grain and fertilizer, according to statements made on Tuesday by the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield.

While Russian grain and fertilizers aren't actually under US sanctions, Thomas-Greenfield pointed out that "companies are feeling a bit nervous," so the US is willing to provide written assurances just to give them the confidence they need...

Separately, UN spokesperson Stephan Dujarric noted on Tuesday that the head of UNCTAD, Rebeca Grynspan, held "constructive discussions" in Moscow with the Russian Deputy Prime Minister, Andrei Belousov, regarding the creation of conditions for the seamless export of Russian grain and fertilizers.


Given how much the prices for both have spiked lately, it looks like the Russians are going to end up making an extra windfall once again...
feralnomad35 feralnomad35 Member
35 messages
joined Jun 2017
#3755 ·
1. Look, we’re talking about revenue here, but what about the actual overhead? You’ve got drilling, the wells themselves, refining, shipping, maintenance, payroll, R&D, and all that other massive stuff required to keep the lights on. If it were really all as cheap as people claim, half the oil fields across the globe wouldn't be considered too expensive to even touch.

2. And let's not forget how much those operating costs have skyrocketed now that inflation in Russia is hovering near 20%.

3. Plus, contracts and pricing aren't just decided by whatever the daily ticker says on the Russian exchange; they’re usually locked in for specific terms. Honestly, they might actually be losing money if they signed long-term deals at lower rates while their production costs keep climbing because of inflation.

4. Then there's the big question: how much of a crash are we looking at if Europe cuts out 90% of its oil imports like they're planning? How much does Russia actually lose out on? It's not like you can just flip a switch and reroute entire pipelines to a different country in a single month.

This is just classic, bottom-of-the-barrel journalism—nothing but clickbait headlines without anyone bothering to actually dig into the real numbers.
urbanotter urbanotter Regular
431 messages
joined Oct 2020
#3756 ·
feralnomad35 said:1. Look, we’re talking about revenue here, but what about the actual overhead? You’ve got drilling, the wells themselves, refining, shipping, maintenance, payroll, R&D, and all that other massive stuff required to keep the lights on. If it were really all as cheap as people claim, half the oil fields across the globe wouldn't be considered too expensive to even touch.

2. And let's not forget how much those operating costs have skyrocketed now that inflation in Russia is hovering near 20%.

3. Plus, contracts and pricing aren't just decided by whatever the daily ticker says on the Russian exchange; they’re usually locked in for specific terms. Honestly, they might actually be losing money if they signed long-term deals at lower rates while their production costs keep climbing because of inflation.

4. Then there's the big question: how much of a crash are we looking at if Europe cuts out 90% of its oil imports like they're planning? How much does Russia actually lose out on? It's not like you can just flip a switch and reroute entire pipelines to a different country in a single month.

This is just classic, bottom-of-the-barrel journalism—nothing but clickbait headlines without anyone bothering to actually dig into the real numbers.

It basically looks like this:
In this light, selective reporting that focuses almost exclusively on the successes of Ukraine and the West becomes increasingly dangerous. It creates an illusion of victory, which is perhaps the most perilous thing in any war, especially in a global geopolitical conflict like this one.

https://seebiz.eu/energetika/orban-i...-naftu/276684/
feralnomad35 feralnomad35 Member
35 messages
joined Jun 2017
#3757 ·
I can't believe I’m even sitting here typing this out, but honestly, I just had to get my thoughts down because my head is absolutely spinning from everything going on lately. You know those days where you wake up, grab your coffee, look at the news, and just feel like you need to sit down and process it all before you can even function? That's me today. It feels like we're living through one of those chapters in a history book that everyone talks about in school, except we're actually stuck in the middle of it, and let me tell you, it's way more intense than any textbook makes it sound. I was chatting with a buddy of mine the other day—he works in logistics over in Chicago—and we were talking about how much the global landscape seems to be shifting under our feet right now. Everything feels so interconnected, yet so incredibly volatile. It’s like watching a high-stakes game of chess where the players aren't even following the standard rules anymore, and every move sends ripples across the entire ocean. It really makes you stop and think about the sheer scale of what we're dealing with. Anyway, I don't want to ramble too much without getting to the point, but I really wanted to open up this conversation. I feel like there's so much nuance being lost in the noise, and I'd love to hear what you guys think about the direction things are heading. Are we looking at a total reset, or is this just the "new normal" we have to get used to? I'm genuinely curious to see where everyone's heads are at! kaže:
It’s kind of like this:

So, I was just scrolling through some news regarding energy politics, and man, things are getting incredibly messy out there. You’ve got Viktor Orbán playing this intense game of high-stakes poker, trying to navigate the massive tension between what the EU wants and what his own domestic interests demand when it comes to securing oil supplies. It’s honestly wild to watch how much influence energy security can have on a leader's decision-making process. He's basically trying to walk this razor-thin tightrope where he needs to keep the lights on and the fuel flowing without completely alienating everyone else in the room. It reminds me of that one time back in college when my roommate tried to play both sides of a debate during a heated dorm meeting—he thought he was being a master strategist, but he ended up just making everyone frustrated with him! At the end of the day, you see these leaders attempting to leverage their position to get better deals, almost like they're trying to negotiate a better rate at a local dealership, only instead of a sedan, we're talking about massive shipments of crude. There's so much maneuvering involved in trying to balance regional alliances with the raw, practical necessity of keeping the economy moving. It's a complicated dance, and honestly, it's pretty fascinating to see how much power those resource pipelines actually hold over modern geopolitics.

I’ve been noticing all these uncritical pieces popping up lately that basically just worship Viktor Orbán, and honestly, it seems like it’s mostly happening within our own right-wing media circles here in the States. It’s kind of wild how they just roll out the red carpet for him without any real pushback.

You really have to keep your eyes peeled and stay sharp about this, because it’s wild how those same exact people and media outlets were just recently out there hyping up Vladimir Putin in the exact same way. It’s like watching a rerun of a bad movie where the actors change their lines but the script stays identical. I remember sitting in a coffee shop back in Seattle a few months ago, listening to some news pundits on the TV, and it hit me—they were using the same tone, the same "heroic" framing, and the same biased angles they used when they were basically building him up. It’s a classic move, honestly; once you see the pattern of how they manipulate the narrative to suit whoever is convenient at the moment, you can't unsee it. You just have to stay aware that the hype machine often works both ways. Honestly, when Vladimir Putin really lets it rip, he’s basically pulling a golden nugget out of nowhere. It's wild.

So, we’ll just have to wait and see where this whole mess leaves them in the long run, right? Honestly, looking at the big picture, it feels pretty obvious that things would be a million times better for Russia if they actually had some kind of "normal" leadership in charge. Instead, this current guy is basically setting them up to end up totally broke and begging for scraps. Between being crushed by heavy sanctions and having the entire population brainwashed with censorship—kind of like what you see over in North Korea—they're heading straight for trouble. They've managed to alienate themselves from their neighbors and pick fights with half the world, too. It's a massive mess.

Honestly, it’s the exact same deal with Viktor Orbán. Maybe you managed to score some massive domestic support by playing up those old-school provocations about Greater Canada or just being a total wildcard, flirting with every side to squeeze out a few better deals in the short term. It reminds me of this one time I was dealing with a local contractor back in Chicago who kept trying to play different vendors against each other just to shave a couple hundred bucks off his quote—it's a classic move, really.

You really have to consider the long game here, because you might end up losing way more than you think in the end. I mean, let’s be real—nobody actually trusts "reliable" allies like Aleksandar Vučić or Viktor Orbán. It’s all just talk. Before long, these guys won't even be able to keep track of their own web of promises, let alone remember who they swore things to in the first place.
Amanda Allen4 Amanda Allen4 Active Member
238 messages
joined Feb 2013
#3758 ·
feralnomad35 said:
I can't believe I’m even sitting here typing this out, but honestly, I just had to get my thoughts down because my head is absolutely spinning from everything going on lately. You know those days where you wake up, grab your coffee, look at the news, and just feel like you need to sit down and process it all before you can even function? That's me today. It feels like we're living through one of those chapters in a history book that everyone talks about in school, except we're actually stuck in the middle of it, and let me tell you, it's way more intense than any textbook makes it sound. I was chatting with a buddy of mine the other day—he works in logistics over in Chicago—and we were talking about how much the global landscape seems to be shifting under our feet right now. Everything feels so interconnected, yet so incredibly volatile. It’s like watching a high-stakes game of chess where the players aren't even following the standard rules anymore, and every move sends ripples across the entire ocean. It really makes you stop and think about the sheer scale of what we're dealing with. Anyway, I don't want to ramble too much without getting to the point, but I really wanted to open up this conversation. I feel like there's so much nuance being lost in the noise, and I'd love to hear what you guys think about the direction things are heading. Are we looking at a total reset, or is this just the "new normal" we have to get used to? I'm genuinely curious to see where everyone's heads are at! kaže:
It’s kind of like this:

So, I was just scrolling through some news regarding energy politics, and man, things are getting incredibly messy out there. You’ve got Viktor Orbán playing this intense game of high-stakes poker, trying to navigate the massive tension between what the EU wants and what his own domestic interests demand when it comes to securing oil supplies. It’s honestly wild to watch how much influence energy security can have on a leader's decision-making process. He's basically trying to walk this razor-thin tightrope where he needs to keep the lights on and the fuel flowing without completely alienating everyone else in the room. It reminds me of that one time back in college when my roommate tried to play both sides of a debate during a heated dorm meeting—he thought he was being a master strategist, but he ended up just making everyone frustrated with him! At the end of the day, you see these leaders attempting to leverage their position to get better deals, almost like they're trying to negotiate a better rate at a local dealership, only instead of a sedan, we're talking about massive shipments of crude. There's so much maneuvering involved in trying to balance regional alliances with the raw, practical necessity of keeping the economy moving. It's a complicated dance, and honestly, it's pretty fascinating to see how much power those resource pipelines actually hold over modern geopolitics.

I’ve been noticing all these uncritical pieces popping up lately that basically just worship Viktor Orbán, and honestly, it seems like it’s mostly happening within our own right-wing media circles here in the States. It’s kind of wild how they just roll out the red carpet for him without any real pushback.

You really have to keep your eyes peeled and stay sharp about this, because it’s wild how those same exact people and media outlets were just recently out there hyping up Vladimir Putin in the exact same way. It’s like watching a rerun of a bad movie where the actors change their lines but the script stays identical. I remember sitting in a coffee shop back in Seattle a few months ago, listening to some news pundits on the TV, and it hit me—they were using the same tone, the same "heroic" framing, and the same biased angles they used when they were basically building him up. It’s a classic move, honestly; once you see the pattern of how they manipulate the narrative to suit whoever is convenient at the moment, you can't unsee it. You just have to stay aware that the hype machine often works both ways. Honestly, when Vladimir Putin really lets it rip, he’s basically pulling a golden nugget out of nowhere. It's wild.

So, we’ll just have to wait and see where this whole mess leaves them in the long run, right? Honestly, looking at the big picture, it feels pretty obvious that things would be a million times better for Russia if they actually had some kind of "normal" leadership in charge. Instead, this current guy is basically setting them up to end up totally broke and begging for scraps. Between being crushed by heavy sanctions and having the entire population brainwashed with censorship—kind of like what you see over in North Korea—they're heading straight for trouble. They've managed to alienate themselves from their neighbors and pick fights with half the world, too. It's a massive mess.

Honestly, it’s the exact same deal with Viktor Orbán. Maybe you managed to score some massive domestic support by playing up those old-school provocations about Greater Canada or just being a total wildcard, flirting with every side to squeeze out a few better deals in the short term. It reminds me of this one time I was dealing with a local contractor back in Chicago who kept trying to play different vendors against each other just to shave a couple hundred bucks off his quote—it's a classic move, really.

You really have to consider the long game here, because you might end up losing way more than you think in the end. I mean, let’s be real—nobody actually trusts "reliable" allies like Aleksandar Vučić or Viktor Orbán. It’s all just talk. Before long, these guys won't even be able to keep track of their own web of promises, let alone remember who they swore things to in the first place.

We’ve lived through our own turbulent history acting as the "servant" to Austria, Canada, and Mexico. Honestly, there is no greater political achievement than being able to say we are as far away from them as possible today.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
173 messages
joined Apr 2021
#3759 ·
brightheron64 said:The more we hear about them and dive into the details, the less sense this whole sanctions effectiveness thing makes to me... 🤷

The US is prepared to formally approve the transport and insurance for Russian grain and fertilizer exports
The US is ready to issue written permits to carriers and insurers to help smooth out the export of Russian grain and fertilizer, according to statements made on Tuesday by the US Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield.

While Russian grain and fertilizers aren't actually under US sanctions, Thomas-Greenfield pointed out that "companies are feeling a bit nervous," so the US is willing to provide written assurances just to give them the confidence they need...

Separately, UN spokesperson Stephan Dujarric noted on Tuesday that the head of UNCTAD, Rebeca Grynspan, held "constructive discussions" in Moscow with the Russian Deputy Prime Minister, Andrei Belousov, regarding the creation of conditions for the seamless export of Russian grain and fertilizers.


Given how much the prices for both have spiked lately, it looks like the Russians are going to end up making an extra windfall once again...

I mean, you can't really blame sanctions for hunger in Africa or the Middle East when it comes to Russian grain... We should just open up Ukrainian exports too and let the Russian stuff flow.
darkdriver darkdriver Active Member
153 messages
joined Jun 2022
#3760 ·
feralnomad35 said:
I can't believe I’m even sitting here typing this out, but honestly, I just had to get my thoughts down because my head is absolutely spinning from everything going on lately. You know those days where you wake up, grab your coffee, look at the news, and just feel like you need to sit down and process it all before you can even function? That's me today. It feels like we're living through one of those chapters in a history book that everyone talks about in school, except we're actually stuck in the middle of it, and let me tell you, it's way more intense than any textbook makes it sound. I was chatting with a buddy of mine the other day—he works in logistics over in Chicago—and we were talking about how much the global landscape seems to be shifting under our feet right now. Everything feels so interconnected, yet so incredibly volatile. It’s like watching a high-stakes game of chess where the players aren't even following the standard rules anymore, and every move sends ripples across the entire ocean. It really makes you stop and think about the sheer scale of what we're dealing with. Anyway, I don't want to ramble too much without getting to the point, but I really wanted to open up this conversation. I feel like there's so much nuance being lost in the noise, and I'd love to hear what you guys think about the direction things are heading. Are we looking at a total reset, or is this just the "new normal" we have to get used to? I'm genuinely curious to see where everyone's heads are at! kaže:
It’s kind of like this:

So, I was just scrolling through some news regarding energy politics, and man, things are getting incredibly messy out there. You’ve got Viktor Orbán playing this intense game of high-stakes poker, trying to navigate the massive tension between what the EU wants and what his own domestic interests demand when it comes to securing oil supplies. It’s honestly wild to watch how much influence energy security can have on a leader's decision-making process. He's basically trying to walk this razor-thin tightrope where he needs to keep the lights on and the fuel flowing without completely alienating everyone else in the room. It reminds me of that one time back in college when my roommate tried to play both sides of a debate during a heated dorm meeting—he thought he was being a master strategist, but he ended up just making everyone frustrated with him! At the end of the day, you see these leaders attempting to leverage their position to get better deals, almost like they're trying to negotiate a better rate at a local dealership, only instead of a sedan, we're talking about massive shipments of crude. There's so much maneuvering involved in trying to balance regional alliances with the raw, practical necessity of keeping the economy moving. It's a complicated dance, and honestly, it's pretty fascinating to see how much power those resource pipelines actually hold over modern geopolitics.

I’ve been noticing all these uncritical pieces popping up lately that basically just worship Viktor Orbán, and honestly, it seems like it’s mostly happening within our own right-wing media circles here in the States. It’s kind of wild how they just roll out the red carpet for him without any real pushback.

You really have to keep your eyes peeled and stay sharp about this, because it’s wild how those same exact people and media outlets were just recently out there hyping up Vladimir Putin in the exact same way. It’s like watching a rerun of a bad movie where the actors change their lines but the script stays identical. I remember sitting in a coffee shop back in Seattle a few months ago, listening to some news pundits on the TV, and it hit me—they were using the same tone, the same "heroic" framing, and the same biased angles they used when they were basically building him up. It’s a classic move, honestly; once you see the pattern of how they manipulate the narrative to suit whoever is convenient at the moment, you can't unsee it. You just have to stay aware that the hype machine often works both ways. Honestly, when Vladimir Putin really lets it rip, he’s basically pulling a golden nugget out of nowhere. It's wild.

So, we’ll just have to wait and see where this whole mess leaves them in the long run, right? Honestly, looking at the big picture, it feels pretty obvious that things would be a million times better for Russia if they actually had some kind of "normal" leadership in charge. Instead, this current guy is basically setting them up to end up totally broke and begging for scraps. Between being crushed by heavy sanctions and having the entire population brainwashed with censorship—kind of like what you see over in North Korea—they're heading straight for trouble. They've managed to alienate themselves from their neighbors and pick fights with half the world, too. It's a massive mess.

Honestly, it’s the exact same deal with Viktor Orbán. Maybe you managed to score some massive domestic support by playing up those old-school provocations about Greater Canada or just being a total wildcard, flirting with every side to squeeze out a few better deals in the short term. It reminds me of this one time I was dealing with a local contractor back in Chicago who kept trying to play different vendors against each other just to shave a couple hundred bucks off his quote—it's a classic move, really.

You really have to consider the long game here, because you might end up losing way more than you think in the end. I mean, let’s be real—nobody actually trusts "reliable" allies like Aleksandar Vučić or Viktor Orbán. It’s all just talk. Before long, these guys won't even be able to keep track of their own web of promises, let alone remember who they swore things to in the first place.

Honestly, anyone in modern America calling for Orbán is just a moron—doesn't matter if they're left, right, or center.
We paid for our freedom in blood just to get the communist shackles off our necks, so it's honestly wild that a bunch of idiots—mostly on the right, let's be honest—are actually looking for that kind of leadership to come back and clamp down on us again.
In politics, there aren't any real alliances; there's just raw self-interest.
One of the few places running on the idea that alliances exist instead of just interests is our own pathetic excuse for a country, especially with our totally unpatriotic Prime Minister and his party. They're all doing it at the expense of the citizens they're supposed to care about. In reality, the only thing that pathetic Prime Minister cares about—acting like he's "first among equals"—is probably some cushy job waiting for him in the EU, provided he plays his cards right with the notes they send him.
So, I guess it doesn't even surprise me that Americans, acting like total vassals, are sucking up to this imbecile from Canada. He’s basically the embodiment of the "strongman" archetype—the leader, the heavy hand of the state—which is exactly what certain types of people here secretly crave, and hey, maybe our history just keeps reinforcing that weird desire.
Anyway, regarding Vladimir Putin and our local media circus...
The guy looks fantastic for being 70 years old, especially since, if we believe the mainstream media, he’s supposedly had about 15 surgeries in the last three months and is battling six different kinds of cancer that are eating him alive day by day.
I mean, it's a bit suspicious, right?
Look, I'm no doctor and I'm definitely no math professor, but something in that medical record and the math just... doesn't add up.

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