Sanctions on Russia

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is essentially saying the EU needs to brace itself for a total shutdown of Russian gas imports entirely.

Terry Hernandez10 said:European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is essentially saying the EU needs to brace itself for a total shutdown of Russian gas imports entirely.

Honestly, this is actually great news. The real strategy here was always waiting for Russia to pull the plug themselves. That way, when they inevitably walk away, we can just terminate our contracts without any legal headaches or massive lawsuits, since the supplier proved they weren't reliable in the first place. Isn't that just brilliant?
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Bryan Booth82 said:Honestly, this is actually great news. The real strategy here was always waiting for Russia to pull the plug themselves. That way, when they inevitably walk away, we can just terminate our contracts without any legal headaches or massive lawsuits, since the supplier proved they weren't reliable in the first place. Isn't that just brilliant?
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Actually, I think this news is fantastic👍👍
The EU will finally be able to catch its breath now—it seems like the door is swinging wide open for more reliable and affordable suppliers.🎉

Paul Kern12 said:Actually, I think this news is fantastic👍👍
The EU will finally be able to catch its breath now—it seems like the door is swinging wide open for more reliable and affordable suppliers.🎉

The bottom line is that Russia won't be our supplier in the future, which makes this incredible news.

Natural gas needs to stay expensive, just like all other fossil fuels—something that obviously goes against the interests of those who make their living from exports.

The ultimate goal is to drastically slash our dependence on fossil fuels, and frankly, Putin is inadvertently helping us get there. 👍
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Bryan Booth82 said:The bottom line is that Russia won't be our supplier in the future, which makes this incredible news.

Natural gas needs to stay expensive, just like all other fossil fuels—something that obviously goes against the interests of those who make their living from exports.

The ultimate goal is to drastically slash our dependence on fossil fuels, and frankly, Putin is inadvertently helping us get there. 👍
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But I have to wonder—whose interest does it serve for gas prices to stay high? Certainly not the consumers, right?

Not to any sane person.
Natural gas is pretty much the cleanest fossil fuel we’ve got—unless you count Iran or plutonium.

Bryan Booth82 said:The bottom line is that Russia won't be our supplier in the future, which makes this incredible news.

Natural gas needs to stay expensive, just like all other fossil fuels—something that obviously goes against the interests of those who make their living from exports.

The ultimate goal is to drastically slash our dependence on fossil fuels, and frankly, Putin is inadvertently helping us get there. 👍
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What’s buried underground should stay there. That's been my mission for forty years when it comes to fossil fuels.
Yeah... I've been an eco-warrior since I can remember.
Glasgow carries more weight than people realize. The EU and China know it. As for the US, I'm not sure what Biden's administration is up to.
If you ask me, Putin played a losing hand in the long run by trying to grab control over every global oil and gas source.

Paul Kern12 said:But I have to wonder—whose interest does it serve for gas prices to stay high? Certainly not the consumers, right?

The planet we're all stuck on, mostly.

dustyowl29 said:Not to any sane person.
Natural gas is pretty much the cleanest fossil fuel we’ve got—unless you count Iran or plutonium.

Sure... but then they start whining about methane emissions from cow burps and farts. (methane)

Terry Hernandez10 said:European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is essentially saying the EU needs to brace itself for a total shutdown of Russian gas imports entirely.

Well, people are already getting ready.
Gas heating has become the absolute worst way to go. You see everyone out on bikes lately, and those electric scooters seem to have vanished. Electric cars are also picking up steam; if you've got the cash, they say it pays off in a few years.
When winter hits and the snow starts falling, a car is still a necessity, but there's a clear push to cut down on gas and fuel consumption.
Solar panels are everywhere in Germany, while the US is lagging behind, which is pretty pathetic considering how much sun we get here.
Edit: A total supply cutoff will happen eventually. This whole situation feels even more intense than the Cold War.

feralhawk45 said:The planet we're all stuck on, mostly.

The Earth isn't some conscious being—it doesn't really have "interests" in the way we understand them. It existed long before us, and I suppose it will continue to exist long after humanity is gone. As for warming or cooling cycles—well, history suggests these things have happened countless times before.

rowdytiger13 said:Well, people are already getting ready.
Gas heating has become the absolute worst way to go. You see everyone out on bikes lately, and those electric scooters seem to have vanished. Electric cars are also picking up steam; if you've got the cash, they say it pays off in a few years.
When winter hits and the snow starts falling, a car is still a necessity, but there's a clear push to cut down on gas and fuel consumption.
Solar panels are everywhere in Germany, while the US is lagging behind, which is pretty pathetic considering how much sun we get here.
Edit: A total supply cutoff will happen eventually. This whole situation feels even more intense than the Cold War.

So—if you're driving an electric car, I suppose the question becomes: how exactly do you plan on charging it? Is it going to be through the exhaust?
When it comes to what actually makes financial sense—well, people used to say the same thing about diesel engines, and then they moved that logic over to cars running on natural gas. I guess it’s always been a similar pattern.

Paul Kern12 said:The Earth isn't some conscious being—it doesn't really have "interests" in the way we understand them. It existed long before us, and I suppose it will continue to exist long after humanity is gone. As for warming or cooling cycles—well, history suggests these things have happened countless times before.

I agree, but that conversation is way too big for this little corner of the internet.
Sure... I fart and burp all day... but I haven't found those listed in any scientific literature as an environmental crisis yet.

Paul Kern12 said:So—if you're driving an electric car, I suppose the question becomes: how exactly do you plan on charging it? Is it going to be through the exhaust?
When it comes to what actually makes financial sense—well, people used to say the same thing about diesel engines, and then they moved that logic over to cars running on natural gas. I guess it’s always been a similar pattern.

That Tesla drove all the way across the US using nothing but solar panels... just 18 square meters of panels folded up like plastic wrap. When the battery ran low, the guys just unfolded the "plastic" and recharged everything in 45 minutes for the next 249 miles.
Sorry, getting off topic.

Paul Kern12 said:Actually, I think this news is fantastic👍👍
The EU will finally be able to catch its breath now—it seems like the door is swinging wide open for more reliable and affordable suppliers.🎉

Who exactly are these "cheaper and more reliable" suppliers? That’s my main question here. Come on, don't be shy—spit it out.😁

Noah Diaz said:Who exactly are these "cheaper and more reliable" suppliers? That’s my main question here. Come on, don't be shy—spit it out.😁

Hold your horses and you'll see. Maybe before this winter hits, though I wouldn't bet on it.

Noah Diaz said:Who exactly are these "cheaper and more reliable" suppliers? That’s my main question here. Come on, don't be shy—spit it out.😁

Well, I suppose they must exist; there are surely plenty of them out there...

Cheap and dependable.

It’s like watching Del Boy try to offload some junk to the local corner store owners. 🤣

Russia just blocked the main pipeline used by Kazakhstan to get oil over to Europe. They're claiming "technical difficulties," which honestly sounds like the same old excuse we always hear whenever they want to push back against Tokayev's recent statements. It feels like those pumping stations might be feeling a little salty about what was said recently.

Russia blocks Kazakhstan's oil transit to Europe.

So, according to the Associated Press, a Russian court has closed the Caspian Pipeline Consortium terminal for 30 Days under alleged technical issues. This specific terminal is basically Kazakhstan's Main EXIT Point for Kazakh oil.

goldenowl73 said:Russia just blocked the main pipeline used by Kazakhstan to get oil over to Europe. They're claiming "technical difficulties," which honestly sounds like the same old excuse we always hear whenever they want to push back against Tokayev's recent statements. It feels like those pumping stations might be feeling a little salty about what was said recently.

Russia blocks Kazakhstan's oil transit to Europe.

So, according to the Associated Press, a Russian court has closed the Caspian Pipeline Consortium terminal for 30 Days under alleged technical issues. This specific terminal is basically Kazakhstan's Main EXIT Point for Kazakh oil.

So, suddenly courts are making calls about "technical glitches"... right. In this case, let's call it what it really is: "technical difficulties." Basically, the most valuable territory near Ukraine is trying to find a way to slip out of that tight embrace. It's funny how everyone starts running from Russia the second they see a window of opportunity, while the Putin enthusiasts here keep trying to convince us that living in lockstep with Russia is paradise on earth.🤷