Sanctions on Russia

Brenda Murphy3 said:😵🤣

Seriously, does every single one of you Putin-worshippers and anti-Western types have to be such blatant liars or just completely clueless?

Iran has a GDP per capita of $20,000? 🤣 What planet are you living on? You're off by a good 10x... honestly. I guess you've got your own special brand of "math" going on over there...

It’s worth trying to debunk this, because that's exactly how their propaganda works.
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The economy over there is honestly a wreck, and while sanctions have definitely slowed them down, you can't ignore the fact that Hamas has been taking quite a few "joy rides" across the region lately—moves that certainly weren't insignificant. Plus, the shortage of oil coming out of Iran is just a tiny fraction of why we're seeing today's oil prices. Besides, we have this meeting between Xi Jinping and our democratic buddy MBS coming up in just a few days; I am genuinely curious to see how those guys are going to swallow that bitter pill in the European Union.

Just imagine if Japan had slapped an oil embargo on itself right before their conflict with the US. History took a different turn entirely: the USA—the world's oil powerhouse—imposed the embargo on Japan, which ultimately drove them to launch that attack on Pearl Harbor. ☕

Kyle Nelson2 said:If Russia is actually selling oil to India, how the hell are they even getting it there?
Is it via tankers? And if so, where are they even refueling?

Can you believe this question—where do the tankers refuel?

Here is an example of a Greek vessel traveling from Novorossiysk to Jamnagar, India.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...el:DELTA_MARIA

And here is one Greek ship heading from Novorossiysk to Trieste.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...INERVA_KYTHNOS

Then we have a Liberian-flagged ship moving from India toward Ust-Luga on the Baltic Sea.

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...sel:NS_CAPTAIN

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Nathan Evans78 says: Look, the Iranian economy is absolute garbage and sanctions have definitely slowed them down, but let's be real—Hamas has been taking massive joy rides across the region that were anything but insignificant. Plus, the shortage of oil coming out of Iran is just a tiny fraction of why we're seeing the oil prices we have today. Besides, we've got Xi Jinping meeting up with our democratic buddy MBS in a couple of days; I’m dying to see how those assholes are going to swallow that in the European Union. Just imagine if Japan had slapped an embargo on itself right before going to war with the US. History actually played out differently: the USA—the world's oil powerhouse—hit Japan with an embargo, which is exactly what triggered their attack on Pearl Harbor. ☕

The Iranian economy isn't trash; it's their political system that's trash. It's the exact same story with Russia, and honestly, the same goes for China.

Economic performance is nothing more than a direct reflection of the political climate and whoever is sitting at the top of the food chain.

Iran is actually a phenomenal country with a massive history and culture—there's so much to see and experience there. In terms of basic humanity, they’re arguably three steps ahead of the Russians... they just need to get rid of this Islamist idiocy and their backward system..

And obviously, Japan didn't attack the US because of what you're claiming..but that’s beside the point anyway.
The bottom line is this: as long as these countries and places like them stick to these kinds of political systems, they’re going to remain stuck-up losers who do absolutely nothing for their own people. Russia might even take the lead in terms of pure negativity here...

How is this off-topic? Seriously, we are essentially in an informal war with Russia right now, and our first move is—get this—a reverse embargo. 🙏 Man, there’s absolutely nothing like that in history. I mean, will Ursula von der Leyen and Charles Michel be studied in history books 50 or 70 years from now the same way they study FDR? We'll just have to wait and see, but personally, I'm not holding my breath. ☕

Between March and July alone, American businesses exported $2.04 billion worth of goods and services to Russia—that’s an extra $624 million compared to the same period back in 2021. This kind of spike really highlights how little Turkey cares about official sanctions. It’s clear their companies aren't about to walk away from Russian business for "moral reasons," unlike so many corporations based in liberal democracies.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, exports to Russia surged by 75 percent year-over-year last month; we're looking at a jump from $417 million in July 2021 to $730 million in July 2022.

And here we are, sitting in NATO with them. 🤦

Nathan Evans78 said:

Between March and July alone, American businesses exported $2.04 billion worth of goods and services to Russia—that’s an extra $624 million compared to the same period back in 2021. This kind of spike really highlights how little Turkey cares about official sanctions. It’s clear their companies aren't about to walk away from Russian business for "moral reasons," unlike so many corporations based in liberal democracies.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, exports to Russia surged by 75 percent year-over-year last month; we're looking at a jump from $417 million in July 2021 to $730 million in July 2022.

And here we are, sitting in NATO with them. 🤦

Did you even finish reading the article?

William Cooper11 said:Did you even finish reading the article?

Honestly, no. I mean, does anyone actually sit there and read the full thing anymore in 2022? Not really. It’s just the Mainstream Media playing the game—you skim the headlines, glance at the first paragraph, and move on. Personally, I find myself clicking most often when I see that one specific keyword: "furious."

Brussels is absolutely FURIOUS.

Moody's changed the outlook on the US government's credit rating from stable to negative this month. They cited the risk of prolonged gas supply disruptions from Russia, which could trigger widespread rationing and a deep recession.

The folks over in DC are absolutely livid.

Nathan Evans78 said:Honestly, no. I mean, does anyone actually sit there and read the full thing anymore in 2022? Not really. It’s just the Mainstream Media playing the game—you skim the headlines, glance at the first paragraph, and move on. Personally, I find myself clicking most often when I see that one specific keyword: "furious."

Brussels is absolutely FURIOUS.

Right at the end of the article, they explain why this behavior from Turkey is being tolerated. Apparently, Turkey acts as a dam against migrants trying to reach Europe. You can basically boil the message from Europe to Turkey down to: "Just don't let those Iraqis, Syrians, Iranians, Pakistanis, or Afghans into the EU, and we'll look the other way regarding your business deals with Russia."

Richard Wilson4 said:Don't tell me you're falling for those "ruble strength" fairy tales too.

A semi-feudal nation stuck in the middle of a war and heavy sanctions isn't doing exactly great, you know?

Since Russian oil production has dipped slightly, all other things being equal, there’s no fundamental reason for oil prices to spike—it looks like everyone else just stepped in to fill the gap. That’s the crux of it. If everyone actually played by the rules regarding sanctions, Russian production would crater and prices would skyrocket. Instead, the suppliers have just rotated. The oil that India isn't grabbing because they're busy taking Russian supply is simply being picked up by Europe, which is trying to avoid the Russian stuff.
Though, one should probably account for the fact that the USA is tapping into its strategic reserves, along with a few other countries.
Russia might end up taking a much harder hit on gas since finding alternative buyers won't be easy—and frankly, so will Europe, given they'll be paying a premium for much more expensive gas.

William Cooper11 said:Right at the end of the article, they explain why this behavior from Turkey is being tolerated. Apparently, Turkey acts as a dam against migrants trying to reach Europe. You can basically boil the message from Europe to Turkey down to: "Just don't let those Iraqis, Syrians, Iranians, Pakistanis, or Afghans into the EU, and we'll look the other way regarding your business deals with Russia."

Alright, so if we have yet another dictator holding more cards than Brussels, then tell me—what is actually the point of pulling EU companies out of the Russian market if they're just going to be replaced by some Turkish equivalent?

Honestly, these sanctions fascinate me more and more every single day with all their little nuances. I swear, if this wasn't pushed through by the "Greens" to force a rapid transition to renewable energy sources, crazy Putin would have just been the perfect excuse to pull it off even faster. 🙏

Nathan Evans78 said:Alright, so if we have yet another dictator holding more cards than Brussels, then tell me—what is actually the point of pulling EU companies out of the Russian market if they're just going to be replaced by some Turkish equivalent?

Honestly, these sanctions fascinate me more and more every single day with all their little nuances. I swear, if this wasn't pushed through by the "Greens" to force a rapid transition to renewable energy sources, crazy Putin would have just been the perfect excuse to pull it off even faster. 🙏

The environmentalists actually went ahead and did it—they shut down the nuclear plants instead of pushing for more construction, which honestly feels pretty Putin-esque when you step back and look at the big picture.

Everyone’s acting like Fukushima was some kind of unprecedented catastrophe, completely ignoring the fact that Germany and Japan are basically sitting on tectonic fault lines. It’s a joke. You’ve got France over there still running their sixty nuclear plants like clockwork, happily exporting all that cheap power to Germany while the Germans sit around complaining about rising costs. It’s pure irony. If one of those French reactors actually goes south, Germany isn't going to be sitting in the dark—they're going to be breathing in the fallout along with everyone else. They haven't actually solved anything with their energy policy; they’ve just spent years shooting themselves in the foot.
If they had just built even one serious LNG terminal—just one—it could have sat there idle if necessary, but at least the infrastructure would exist. Honestly, for the sake of everyone who spent years trying to warn them about energy security, it would have been a massive safety net for Germany. But no, they couldn't be bothered to do that either.

Andrew Booth29 said:Since Russian oil production has dipped slightly, all other things being equal, there’s no fundamental reason for oil prices to spike—it looks like everyone else just stepped in to fill the gap. That’s the crux of it. If everyone actually played by the rules regarding sanctions, Russian production would crater and prices would skyrocket. Instead, the suppliers have just rotated. The oil that India isn't grabbing because they're busy taking Russian supply is simply being picked up by Europe, which is trying to avoid the Russian stuff.
Though, one should probably account for the fact that the USA is tapping into its strategic reserves, along with a few other countries.
Russia might end up taking a much harder hit on gas since finding alternative buyers won't be easy—and frankly, so will Europe, given they'll be paying a premium for much more expensive gas.

The broader economic outlook plays a role here too—we're looking at slowing activity and the looming threat of a recession.

Nathan Evans78 said:Alright, so if we have yet another dictator holding more cards than Brussels, then tell me—what is actually the point of pulling EU companies out of the Russian market if they're just going to be replaced by some Turkish equivalent?

Honestly, these sanctions fascinate me more and more every single day with all their little nuances. I swear, if this wasn't pushed through by the "Greens" to force a rapid transition to renewable energy sources, crazy Putin would have just been the perfect excuse to pull it off even faster. 🙏

That argument falls apart if you assume Turkey actually has an equivalent for everything on the European market. They don't.
They're even importing optics for their Bayraktar drones from Canada.

William Cooper11 said:That argument falls apart if you assume Turkey actually has an equivalent for everything on the European market. They don't.
They're even importing optics for their Bayraktar drones from Canada.

And let's not forget, the engine is European too—it's an Austrian Rotax.

Northrop Grumman inertial sensor, Garmin GNC 255 radio unit

William Cooper11 said:That argument falls apart if you assume Turkey actually has an equivalent for everything on the European market. They don't.
They're even importing optics for their Bayraktar drones from Canada.

Now, looking closely at the article, it doesn't actually state that they only export their own proprietary tech. We’d really need to see if they’re also ramping up imports from the West just to flip them for a profit later on...

I’m honestly not quite sure what the goal is with listing all those requirements, considering they basically need everything from the West just to claim they’re making "their own" stuff...
I suppose nobody expects that they'll face sanctions themselves, or that those refugees mentioned will just stay tucked away in Turkey indefinitely... Or maybe people think decision-making within NATO will suddenly become a breeze if that happens...

Lithuania is currently working on banning Russian tourist visas—it looks like a few other countries might be weighing similar moves. It makes me wonder: should we consider banning Russians from entering the US altogether?

quietridge92 said:Lithuania is currently working on banning Russian tourist visas—it looks like a few other countries might be weighing similar moves. It makes me wonder: should we consider banning Russians from entering the US altogether?

They'll just head over to Mexico instead. I mean, a trip to a spa in Tennessee is much better than some Baltic coast anyway.