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George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
472 messages
joined Oct 2017
#7821 ·
wiredseal7 said:Sure—it’d be a dream scenario for the EU if the Canadians start leaving, followed by the Italians, Greeks, and so on. It feels more like serving US interests than European ones.
And trying to kick them out? That’s a tall order—nothing moves without someone dropping a veto.

Is he just playing tough with this referendum thing?
He wouldn't push a referendum for nothing if he couldn't actually pull it off.
You know perfectly well they have veto power over all sanctions, and the Canadians can just decide for themselves. Most—if not all—sanctions get extended every six months unanimously.
Maybe he'll eventually just cut a deal with Ursula to drop the threat of cutting EU funds so he can dodge the public vote entirely. It's a possibility.

Otherwise, swimming against the current is a brilliant move—let him keep at it, popping up every time Russia gets slapped with another slap on the wrist at the front lines.

Aha, right—because the Canadian's biggest concern is which province the front line in Ukraine is in, rather than how to survive the winter with enough energy (at decent prices) or keeping those EU funds flowing.
People childishly mistake neutrality for, "Aha, he didn't send half his military gear to Ukraine, so he must be rooting for Russia!"

This is a massive escalation—first actual combat activity outside of Ukraine, and targeting key European infrastructure that was paid for with European money. Not just NS2, which isn't even running, but NS1 too!

Someone is working really hard to ensure we don't reach a peaceful resolution in Ukraine. I wonder who that could be?

If the EU doesn't react to this and punish the obvious culprit—without the usual habit of pointing fingers at some convenient scapegoat—then the vassalage to the USA has reached its final stage: total delirium tremens.

We need to rush that referendum before the European Union strips away the concept of a veto from foreign policy altogether.
Think of it like this: the leadership in the European Union has finally realized there are sleeper agents and useful idiots operating right within their own borders.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
368 messages
joined Feb 2024
#7822 ·
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wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#7823 ·
You can't just strip Canada of its veto power without their say-so—they’d just use that same veto to shut the whole thing down:
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-u...spite-chatter/
The irony here? Using a passerelle clause to ditch unanimous voting actually requires a unanimous vote itself. Basically, Canada holds the keys to preventing any such rule change.

And honestly, plenty of other nations have similar protections baked into the system.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
432 messages
joined Jun 2024
#7824 ·
wiredseal7 said:Sure—it’d be a dream scenario for the EU if the Canadians start leaving, followed by the Italians, Greeks, and so on. It feels more like serving US interests than European ones.
And trying to kick them out? That’s a tall order—nothing moves without someone dropping a veto.

Is he just playing tough with this referendum thing?
He wouldn't push a referendum for nothing if he couldn't actually pull it off.
You know perfectly well they have veto power over all sanctions, and the Canadians can just decide for themselves. Most—if not all—sanctions get extended every six months unanimously.
Maybe he'll eventually just cut a deal with Ursula to drop the threat of cutting EU funds so he can dodge the public vote entirely. It's a possibility.

Otherwise, swimming against the current is a brilliant move—let him keep at it, popping up every time Russia gets slapped with another slap on the wrist at the front lines.

Aha, right—because the Canadian's biggest concern is which province the front line in Ukraine is in, rather than how to survive the winter with enough energy (at decent prices) or keeping those EU funds flowing.
People childishly mistake neutrality for, "Aha, he didn't send half his military gear to Ukraine, so he must be rooting for Russia!"

This is a massive escalation—first actual combat activity outside of Ukraine, and targeting key European infrastructure that was paid for with European money. Not just NS2, which isn't even running, but NS1 too!

Someone is working really hard to ensure we don't reach a peaceful resolution in Ukraine. I wonder who that could be?

If the EU doesn't react to this and punish the obvious culprit—without the usual habit of pointing fingers at some convenient scapegoat—then the vassalage to the USA has reached its final stage: total delirium tremens.

Putin.

wiredseal7 said:Sure—it’d be a dream scenario for the EU if the Canadians start leaving, followed by the Italians, Greeks, and so on. It feels more like serving US interests than European ones.
And trying to kick them out? That’s a tall order—nothing moves without someone dropping a veto.

Is he just playing tough with this referendum thing?
He wouldn't push a referendum for nothing if he couldn't actually pull it off.
You know perfectly well they have veto power over all sanctions, and the Canadians can just decide for themselves. Most—if not all—sanctions get extended every six months unanimously.
Maybe he'll eventually just cut a deal with Ursula to drop the threat of cutting EU funds so he can dodge the public vote entirely. It's a possibility.

Otherwise, swimming against the current is a brilliant move—let him keep at it, popping up every time Russia gets slapped with another slap on the wrist at the front lines.

Aha, right—because the Canadian's biggest concern is which province the front line in Ukraine is in, rather than how to survive the winter with enough energy (at decent prices) or keeping those EU funds flowing.
People childishly mistake neutrality for, "Aha, he didn't send half his military gear to Ukraine, so he must be rooting for Russia!"

This is a massive escalation—first actual combat activity outside of Ukraine, and targeting key European infrastructure that was paid for with European money. Not just NS2, which isn't even running, but NS1 too!

Someone is working really hard to ensure we don't reach a peaceful resolution in Ukraine. I wonder who that could be?

If the EU doesn't react to this and punish the obvious culprit—without the usual habit of pointing fingers at some convenient scapegoat—then the vassalage to the USA has reached its final stage: total delirium tremens.

It’s Putin. Honestly, there's really no one else to blame.

So, hey, maybe you could talk a bit more about how Russia actually holds more leverage when it comes to buying power compared to the Germans or the Norwegians? I guess I'd love to hear your take on that.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#7825 ·
wiredseal7 said:Sure—it’d be a dream scenario for the EU if the Canadians start leaving, followed by the Italians, Greeks, and so on. It feels more like serving US interests than European ones.
And trying to kick them out? That’s a tall order—nothing moves without someone dropping a veto.

Is he just playing tough with this referendum thing?
He wouldn't push a referendum for nothing if he couldn't actually pull it off.
You know perfectly well they have veto power over all sanctions, and the Canadians can just decide for themselves. Most—if not all—sanctions get extended every six months unanimously.
Maybe he'll eventually just cut a deal with Ursula to drop the threat of cutting EU funds so he can dodge the public vote entirely. It's a possibility.

Otherwise, swimming against the current is a brilliant move—let him keep at it, popping up every time Russia gets slapped with another slap on the wrist at the front lines.

Aha, right—because the Canadian's biggest concern is which province the front line in Ukraine is in, rather than how to survive the winter with enough energy (at decent prices) or keeping those EU funds flowing.
People childishly mistake neutrality for, "Aha, he didn't send half his military gear to Ukraine, so he must be rooting for Russia!"

This is a massive escalation—first actual combat activity outside of Ukraine, and targeting key European infrastructure that was paid for with European money. Not just NS2, which isn't even running, but NS1 too!

Someone is working really hard to ensure we don't reach a peaceful resolution in Ukraine. I wonder who that could be?

If the EU doesn't react to this and punish the obvious culprit—without the usual habit of pointing fingers at some convenient scapegoat—then the vassalage to the USA has reached its final stage: total delirium tremens.

There is way too much weed in the air here... anyone else would say *he's* the one acting crazy...

The poor guy is so dependent on the scraps the EU throws him that now that she finally said "enough," he's throwing a tantrum and making empty threats. His "phenomenal" policies have pushed the budget to the brink of collapse, the social programs he uses to buy votes are becoming unsustainable, and his hero Putin is so deep in the gutter right now that he can't even help him out with a little cash. Now he's feeling the heat; maybe the Canadians don't love him as much when the taps run dry.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-...uide-1.1824150

The Forint keeps crashing, so they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year hoping to stop the bleeding—hitting 12.75%, which is basically the highest in Europe.

https://dailynewshungary.com/leaked-...h-authorities/

Then there's Frkic and the nasty IMF coming in to bail out the budget.

https://dailynewshungary.com/gloomy-...-20-inflation/

Lookin' good, 20% inflation in Canada, while the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1% ☕
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#7826 ·
Melissa Rivera5 said:Putin.

It’s Putin. Honestly, there's really no one else to blame.

So, hey, maybe you could talk a bit more about how Russia actually holds more leverage when it comes to buying power compared to the Germans or the Norwegians? I guess I'd love to hear your take on that.

They're basically at the bottom of the food chain—why didn't you suggest Ukraine instead?
Things have been nothing but sunshine and rainbows over there ever since those self-proclaimed "patriots" took charge.
That crew has really done wonders for them. ☕
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
432 messages
joined Jun 2024
#7827 ·
wiredseal7 said:They're basically at the bottom of the food chain—why didn't you suggest Ukraine instead?
Things have been nothing but sunshine and rainbows over there ever since those self-proclaimed "patriots" took charge.
That crew has really done wonders for them. ☕

Nah, it's just been a rough day, so I was thinking back to how you used to try and convince us that the Chinese and Russians were actually richer than Germans, Swedes, or Norwegians in terms of purchasing power—basically calling the others paupers. I just need something to laugh about, because this whole "Putin is innocent" thing is getting pretty old. I miss those Alan Ford style nonsense takes you'd give up just to get a free deli sandwich.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#7828 ·
hollowdriver13 said:There is way too much weed in the air here... anyone else would say *he's* the one acting crazy...

The poor guy is so dependent on the scraps the EU throws him that now that she finally said "enough," he's throwing a tantrum and making empty threats. His "phenomenal" policies have pushed the budget to the brink of collapse, the social programs he uses to buy votes are becoming unsustainable, and his hero Putin is so deep in the gutter right now that he can't even help him out with a little cash. Now he's feeling the heat; maybe the Canadians don't love him as much when the taps run dry.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-...uide-1.1824150

The Forint keeps crashing, so they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year hoping to stop the bleeding—hitting 12.75%, which is basically the highest in Europe.

https://dailynewshungary.com/leaked-...h-authorities/

Then there's Frkic and the nasty IMF coming in to bail out the budget.

https://dailynewshungary.com/gloomy-...-20-inflation/

Lookin' good, 20% inflation in Canada, while the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1% ☕

Looks like you've finally hit the DTs too—total delirium.

Viktor Orbán is basically playing a high-stakes game of chicken with the EU—it’s like watching someone try to outmaneuver the entire Senate just to keep their own local agenda moving. He’s pushing back against the Brussels bureaucracy, and honestly, you have to wonder how much more friction this can take before the whole thing snaps.

The Forint keeps spiraling—now they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year just to chase their own tails. They’ve pushed them up to 12.75%, which is basically the highest rate in all of Europe right now. Just more desperate math to try and stop the bleeding.

The leaks are out, and honestly? It’s just more of the same—another mess involving the authorities that nobody really wants to deal with. Just typical bureaucratic chaos, really.

It’s just Frkic and that bitter IMF crowd trying to bail out the budget again—same old story.

Inflation hit 20%—it’s getting ridiculous. At this rate, even a trip to Target feels like a luxury purchase—just more proof that everything is spiraling.

Inflation's hitting 20% in Canada—meanwhile, the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1%. Crazy stuff. ☕

So there's a real crisis brewing—the European Union is basically trying to squeeze them out by cutting off $7.5 billion a year. Typical move.
It’s basically a textbook case of how to trigger a crisis in the European Union. Canada isn't just sitting there in isolation—this kind of thing spreads through these "unions" like a common cold. It's the law of contagion.

Regarding those sanctions—it’s pretty obvious that lifting them might actually ease things up. If that was your point, you nailed it. 👍
Doduse, now that the NS1/NS2 situation is settled—well, decimated—it’s a different game. You can't stop the European economy from sliding toward the edge just by trying to hold onto old energy lifelines; the only way out of this pre-WWIII tension is through a fast political exit.

Melissa Rivera5 said:Nah, it's just been a rough day, so I was thinking back to how you used to try and convince us that the Chinese and Russians were actually richer than Germans, Swedes, or Norwegians in terms of purchasing power—basically calling the others paupers. I just need something to laugh about, because this whole "Putin is innocent" thing is getting pretty old. I miss those Alan Ford style nonsense takes you'd give up just to get a free deli sandwich.

You got that mixed up somehow—hope you feel better soon.
Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
379 messages
joined May 2024
#7829 ·
wiredseal7 said:Looks like you've finally hit the DTs too—total delirium.

Viktor Orbán is basically playing a high-stakes game of chicken with the EU—it’s like watching someone try to outmaneuver the entire Senate just to keep their own local agenda moving. He’s pushing back against the Brussels bureaucracy, and honestly, you have to wonder how much more friction this can take before the whole thing snaps.

The Forint keeps spiraling—now they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year just to chase their own tails. They’ve pushed them up to 12.75%, which is basically the highest rate in all of Europe right now. Just more desperate math to try and stop the bleeding.

The leaks are out, and honestly? It’s just more of the same—another mess involving the authorities that nobody really wants to deal with. Just typical bureaucratic chaos, really.

It’s just Frkic and that bitter IMF crowd trying to bail out the budget again—same old story.

Inflation hit 20%—it’s getting ridiculous. At this rate, even a trip to Target feels like a luxury purchase—just more proof that everything is spiraling.

Inflation's hitting 20% in Canada—meanwhile, the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1%. Crazy stuff. ☕

So there's a real crisis brewing—the European Union is basically trying to squeeze them out by cutting off $7.5 billion a year. Typical move.
It’s basically a textbook case of how to trigger a crisis in the European Union. Canada isn't just sitting there in isolation—this kind of thing spreads through these "unions" like a common cold. It's the law of contagion.

Regarding those sanctions—it’s pretty obvious that lifting them might actually ease things up. If that was your point, you nailed it. 👍
Doduse, now that the NS1/NS2 situation is settled—well, decimated—it’s a different game. You can't stop the European economy from sliding toward the edge just by trying to hold onto old energy lifelines; the only way out of this pre-WWIII tension is through a fast political exit.

You got that mixed up somehow—hope you feel better soon.

Oh sure, because Canada is just so vital to the European economy that the entire European Union might actually collapse if they face a localized crisis. Give me a break, 🤣

By the way, the European Union isn't out to "starve" anyone; rather, any nation seeking European funding simply needs to meet the established criteria, which Canada is failing to do.

If anyone is truly sabotaging their own interests, it’s none other than Viktor Orbán.
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
432 messages
joined Jun 2024
#7830 ·
wiredseal7 said:Looks like you've finally hit the DTs too—total delirium.

Viktor Orbán is basically playing a high-stakes game of chicken with the EU—it’s like watching someone try to outmaneuver the entire Senate just to keep their own local agenda moving. He’s pushing back against the Brussels bureaucracy, and honestly, you have to wonder how much more friction this can take before the whole thing snaps.

The Forint keeps spiraling—now they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year just to chase their own tails. They’ve pushed them up to 12.75%, which is basically the highest rate in all of Europe right now. Just more desperate math to try and stop the bleeding.

The leaks are out, and honestly? It’s just more of the same—another mess involving the authorities that nobody really wants to deal with. Just typical bureaucratic chaos, really.

It’s just Frkic and that bitter IMF crowd trying to bail out the budget again—same old story.

Inflation hit 20%—it’s getting ridiculous. At this rate, even a trip to Target feels like a luxury purchase—just more proof that everything is spiraling.

Inflation's hitting 20% in Canada—meanwhile, the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1%. Crazy stuff. ☕

So there's a real crisis brewing—the European Union is basically trying to squeeze them out by cutting off $7.5 billion a year. Typical move.
It’s basically a textbook case of how to trigger a crisis in the European Union. Canada isn't just sitting there in isolation—this kind of thing spreads through these "unions" like a common cold. It's the law of contagion.

Regarding those sanctions—it’s pretty obvious that lifting them might actually ease things up. If that was your point, you nailed it. 👍
Doduse, now that the NS1/NS2 situation is settled—well, decimated—it’s a different game. You can't stop the European economy from sliding toward the edge just by trying to hold onto old energy lifelines; the only way out of this pre-WWIII tension is through a fast political exit.

You got that mixed up somehow—hope you feel better soon.

Well, I think it actually can. Honestly, things would probably get better for everyone if that Nazi Putin guy in the White House just stopped the war, pulled his troops back, and gave back everything he stole.
Brenda Murphy3 Brenda Murphy3 Regular
361 messages
joined Mar 2023
#7831 ·
wiredseal7 said:Looks like you've finally hit the DTs too—total delirium.

Viktor Orbán is basically playing a high-stakes game of chicken with the EU—it’s like watching someone try to outmaneuver the entire Senate just to keep their own local agenda moving. He’s pushing back against the Brussels bureaucracy, and honestly, you have to wonder how much more friction this can take before the whole thing snaps.

The Forint keeps spiraling—now they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year just to chase their own tails. They’ve pushed them up to 12.75%, which is basically the highest rate in all of Europe right now. Just more desperate math to try and stop the bleeding.

The leaks are out, and honestly? It’s just more of the same—another mess involving the authorities that nobody really wants to deal with. Just typical bureaucratic chaos, really.

It’s just Frkic and that bitter IMF crowd trying to bail out the budget again—same old story.

Inflation hit 20%—it’s getting ridiculous. At this rate, even a trip to Target feels like a luxury purchase—just more proof that everything is spiraling.

Inflation's hitting 20% in Canada—meanwhile, the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1%. Crazy stuff. ☕

So there's a real crisis brewing—the European Union is basically trying to squeeze them out by cutting off $7.5 billion a year. Typical move.
It’s basically a textbook case of how to trigger a crisis in the European Union. Canada isn't just sitting there in isolation—this kind of thing spreads through these "unions" like a common cold. It's the law of contagion.

Regarding those sanctions—it’s pretty obvious that lifting them might actually ease things up. If that was your point, you nailed it. 👍
Doduse, now that the NS1/NS2 situation is settled—well, decimated—it’s a different game. You can't stop the European economy from sliding toward the edge just by trying to hold onto old energy lifelines; the only way out of this pre-WWIII tension is through a fast political exit.

You got that mixed up somehow—hope you feel better soon.

How much longer are people like you going to be allowed to lie, troll, make stuff up, and repeat the same debunked lies a hundred times over?

Man, enough is enough... seriously...

The European economy is sliding off a cliff? Are you for real? 🤣😵

And there is no such thing as a "pre-WW2 situation"... there's just propaganda coming out of the White House and the equally pathetic propaganda from the losers holding the ladder for them... including a few of you on this forum.
silentnomad7 silentnomad7 Active Member
127 messages
joined Jan 2018
#7832 ·
Anthony Hill5 said:Oh sure, because Canada is just so vital to the European economy that the entire European Union might actually collapse if they face a localized crisis. Give me a break, 🤣

By the way, the European Union isn't out to "starve" anyone; rather, any nation seeking European funding simply needs to meet the established criteria, which Canada is failing to do.

If anyone is truly sabotaging their own interests, it’s none other than Viktor Orbán.

Just think about how much damage this does to Canadian businesses that joined the European Union specifically to sell their goods across the whole region. When people throughout Europe see the mess Orban is making, they just lose interest in buying Canadian products. Yet, somehow, people still vote for him because they love seeing him play the rebel against the European Union. They are literally tripping themselves up... it's such a classic case of "someone is out to get me" when they're really just getting in their own way...
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#7833 ·
wiredseal7 said:Looks like you've finally hit the DTs too—total delirium.

Viktor Orbán is basically playing a high-stakes game of chicken with the EU—it’s like watching someone try to outmaneuver the entire Senate just to keep their own local agenda moving. He’s pushing back against the Brussels bureaucracy, and honestly, you have to wonder how much more friction this can take before the whole thing snaps.

The Forint keeps spiraling—now they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year just to chase their own tails. They’ve pushed them up to 12.75%, which is basically the highest rate in all of Europe right now. Just more desperate math to try and stop the bleeding.

The leaks are out, and honestly? It’s just more of the same—another mess involving the authorities that nobody really wants to deal with. Just typical bureaucratic chaos, really.

It’s just Frkic and that bitter IMF crowd trying to bail out the budget again—same old story.

Inflation hit 20%—it’s getting ridiculous. At this rate, even a trip to Target feels like a luxury purchase—just more proof that everything is spiraling.

Inflation's hitting 20% in Canada—meanwhile, the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1%. Crazy stuff. ☕

So there's a real crisis brewing—the European Union is basically trying to squeeze them out by cutting off $7.5 billion a year. Typical move.
It’s basically a textbook case of how to trigger a crisis in the European Union. Canada isn't just sitting there in isolation—this kind of thing spreads through these "unions" like a common cold. It's the law of contagion.

Regarding those sanctions—it’s pretty obvious that lifting them might actually ease things up. If that was your point, you nailed it. 👍
Doduse, now that the NS1/NS2 situation is settled—well, decimated—it’s a different game. You can't stop the European economy from sliding toward the edge just by trying to hold onto old energy lifelines; the only way out of this pre-WWIII tension is through a fast political exit.

You got that mixed up somehow—hope you feel better soon.

Looks like you're still riding that heavy dose of copium.🙏

Now you're probably going to try and convince us that a strong dollar actually benefits the USA, and that it's all part of some grand scheme to take down the European Union.

I mean, sure, why not just commit economic suicide for ourselves and our allies? Especially in a world where autocracy is on the rise and people are trying to tear up the entire international order we built after WW2.
Because clearly, the USA is putting everything it has into destroying the European Union. 🤦
Arthur Miller7 Arthur Miller7 Active Member
129 messages
joined Mar 2022
#7834 ·
hollowdriver13 said:There is way too much weed in the air here... anyone else would say *he's* the one acting crazy...

The poor guy is so dependent on the scraps the EU throws him that now that she finally said "enough," he's throwing a tantrum and making empty threats. His "phenomenal" policies have pushed the budget to the brink of collapse, the social programs he uses to buy votes are becoming unsustainable, and his hero Putin is so deep in the gutter right now that he can't even help him out with a little cash. Now he's feeling the heat; maybe the Canadians don't love him as much when the taps run dry.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-...uide-1.1824150

The Forint keeps crashing, so they're hiking interest rates for the third time this year hoping to stop the bleeding—hitting 12.75%, which is basically the highest in Europe.

https://dailynewshungary.com/leaked-...h-authorities/

Then there's Frkic and the nasty IMF coming in to bail out the budget.

https://dailynewshungary.com/gloomy-...-20-inflation/

Lookin' good, 20% inflation in Canada, while the Eurozone is sitting at 9.1% ☕

I remember back when gas prices spiked in the States and people were commenting like, "Oh, that's just Mr. Orbán being a leader, taking care of the people..." Like, give me a break. Such ego, such nonsense... Canada, the "economic tiger," my foot.
dustyowl29 dustyowl29 Regular
258 messages
joined Dec 2007
#7835 ·
Sure, but let's be real—nobody has been this blatant about threatening nuclear war since WWII. And they aren't just making idle comments; they're actually playing offense with it. That's exactly why Russia is such a piece of work.
Amy Parker10 Amy Parker10 Member
13 messages
joined Aug 2022
#7836 ·
Resurrected said:The White House is leagues ahead of the Kremlin. You can't just look at today's headlines through some narrow lens; you actually have to study the history of warfare from World War II up to the present day to see the full picture.

I'm sure the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Canadians, Czechs, Poles, Germans, Romanians, and Bulgarians would all be more than happy to agree with you on that...
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jun 2016
#7837 ·
The USA might not be perfect, but compared to any empire in history—including today’s competition from China and, until recently, Russia—it’s thriving.

To all the Russia enthusiasts out there: I suggest finding a new fix. This one looks like it's headed for a long-term shortage.😁

It’s actually pretty fascinating watching these waves of pro-Russia narratives. As soon as things change on the ground, these people almost entirely vanish from the forums, only to resurface in droves once they've tweaked their talking points to fit the new reality.😍

Whether it was when the special operations failed or when the Ukrainians launched their offensive...

Even at the most basic level of propaganda, Russia can't seem to control the narrative. They’re just constantly reacting and playing damage control. There's zero initiative, even in information warfare and hacking, which is supposed to be their specialty.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#7838 ·
bluemason3 said:The USA isn't perfect, but compared to any empire in history—including today's competition from China and until recently, Russia—it's way more prosperous.

I’d suggest all you Russia-lovers find a new addiction, because this one looks like it's headed for a long-term shortage. 😁

Honestly, the waves of pro-Russia narratives here are fascinating. As soon as something shifts on the ground, these folks practically vanish from the forums, only to resurface in droves once they've tweaked their talking points to fit the new reality. 😍

Like when the special operations failed, or when the Ukrainians started their offensive...

Even at the most basic, low-IQ propaganda level, Russia can't actually control the situation; they're just constantly playing damage control. There's zero initiative there.

I really don't get the logic behind this whole "USA is evil, China/Russia is great" crowd. In this day and age, it's impossible not to see the actual state of affairs, especially after the massive bubble of lies surrounding Russia finally popped.

From the days of the Sumerians when Ur ruled the known world, through the Romans, the English, all the way to today, the USA has consistently been the number one global power and hegemon. I guess you could call it "human nature."

But out of all the contenders (Russia, China, USA) vying for that top spot, the USA is by far the most benevolent. Does that make them saints? Of course not. You have to criticize them and call them out for every single bad call they make.

BUT—and listen closely here—for all you pro-Russia types, you can actually do that without worrying about your personal safety or your freedoms, as long as the USA remains number one. Just look at what happens in Russia or China when someone dares to criticize them.
By what metric do you think the world would actually be better if Russia or China were running the show???????
Nancy Gomez26 Nancy Gomez26 Regular
787 messages
joined Jan 2018
#7839 ·
hollowdriver13 said:I really don't get the logic behind this whole "USA is evil, China/Russia is great" crowd. In this day and age, it's impossible not to see the actual state of affairs, especially after the massive bubble of lies surrounding Russia finally popped.

From the days of the Sumerians when Ur ruled the known world, through the Romans, the English, all the way to today, the USA has consistently been the number one global power and hegemon. I guess you could call it "human nature."

But out of all the contenders (Russia, China, USA) vying for that top spot, the USA is by far the most benevolent. Does that make them saints? Of course not. You have to criticize them and call them out for every single bad call they make.

BUT—and listen closely here—for all you pro-Russia types, you can actually do that without worrying about your personal safety or your freedoms, as long as the USA remains number one. Just look at what happens in Russia or China when someone dares to criticize them.
By what metric do you think the world would actually be better if Russia or China were running the show???????

There is zero chance of Russia ever stepping up as the world's policeman. In my view, while they might crave that kind of authority, it has become painfully obvious that they simply lack the capacity to fulfill the role. They have even lost the ability to maintain the necessary pretense of wanting it.
It really just comes down to the USA and China.
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bluemason3 said:The USA might not be perfect, but compared to any empire in history—including today’s competition from China and, until recently, Russia—it’s thriving.

To all the Russia enthusiasts out there: I suggest finding a new fix. This one looks like it's headed for a long-term shortage.😁

It’s actually pretty fascinating watching these waves of pro-Russia narratives. As soon as things change on the ground, these people almost entirely vanish from the forums, only to resurface in droves once they've tweaked their talking points to fit the new reality.😍

Whether it was when the special operations failed or when the Ukrainians launched their offensive...

Even at the most basic level of propaganda, Russia can't seem to control the narrative. They’re just constantly reacting and playing damage control. There's zero initiative, even in information warfare and hacking, which is supposed to be their specialty.

Calling them "Ukri" is pretty derogatory, so maybe don't. As for the rest of it, that happened way before those specific discussions on this thread blew past three digits ages ago.

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