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Anthony Hill5 Anthony Hill5 Regular
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#7801 ·
George Robinson43 said:WTI is sitting at $78, while Brent is at $86 (with Urals around $68). I can’t help but wonder what happens when Russia starts shutting off the gas taps during the winter, leading to austerity measures across the European Union and a full-blown recession. It’s like watching a storm gather on the horizon! Personally, I suspect prices could plummet to the $10-$20 range (Urals dropping to $5-$10), which would trigger a total collapse of the Russian budget. 2023 is going to be quite an eventful year over there!

It strikes me that all those little bots who have spent months droning on about how Russia is actually profiting from these sanctions are suddenly going to fall very, very silent.
urbanotter urbanotter Regular
431 messages
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#7802 ·
rowdyraven112 said:A few days ago, Ursula von der Leyen claimed we aren't importing oil or gas from dictatorships anymore. Does that mean the US is just going to run out of fuel entirely? Since about 90% of the countries supplying our oil and gas are ruled by dictatorships, how does that math even work? ☕

I’ve always felt that when it comes to Ursula von der Leyen, there is a lot of noise being made without much substance actually following through. It reminds me of those times back in my hometown when people would spend all summer talking up a big community project, promising the world, only for nothing to ever actually get built once the season ended. She seems to be doing a lot of buzzing around the international stage, making quite a spectacle, but when you look closely at the actual results or the tangible benefits being delivered, it feels like there isn't much honey in the hive.

Sometimes, reality just doesn't quite line up with how we see things in our heads. I’ve found myself sitting there, staring out the window on a quiet afternoon, thinking about how much effort we put into constructing these mental versions of the world, only to be met with a different truth once we actually step outside. It’s a strange feeling, isn't it? That moment when the expectations you've built up simply fail to match the actual situation unfolding right in front of you.

I was reading through some recent reports regarding the deployment of the LExD-70ar1v-hs, and it really got me thinking about how quickly these technological shifts happen in our defense landscape. It feels like just yesterday we were discussing older models, and now, suddenly, this specific system is being integrated into active operations. I remember back when I was working a logistics job in Chicago, seeing how a single change in equipment standards could ripple through an entire supply chain for months; there's a certain weight to these developments that people often overlook in the daily news cycle. It’s interesting to watch how the strategic implications unfold. When you look at the broader context of how the U.S. manages its advanced hardware, these incremental updates aren't just technical tweaks—they represent a fundamental shift in how we maintain an edge. It makes you wonder how much of this remains under the radar versus what actually makes it into the public discourse. There is a lot to digest here, and I think it deserves a bit more measured scrutiny than the typical headlines allow.

We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that companies like ExxonMobil haven't even ramped up their full production capacity yet, all while fertilizer prices remain absolutely astronomical—we're talking about costs that have spiked by 300% to 400% compared to what we saw before the recent sanctions hit. I remember back when I was helping out on my uncle's farm in Iowa, we used to take the cost of supplies for granted, but seeing these numbers today really puts the current volatility into perspective.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#7803 ·
https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/s...58280858062848

Annual inflation rates

Turkey: 80%
Argentina: 78%
Iran: 52%
Pakistan: 27%
Nigeria: 20.5%
Russia: 14.3%
UK: 9.9%
Eurozone: 9.1%

Mexico: 8.7%
Italy: 8.4%
US: 8.3%
Germany: 7.9%

Canada: 7%
India: 7%
Australia: 6.1%
France: 5.9%
Indonesia: 4.6%
Japan: 3%
Saudi Arabia: 2.5%
China: 2.5%

Yikes. Apparently, all those sanctions are supposedly "crushing" the West while life in Russia just seems to keep getting better by the day...
Charles Ross3 Charles Ross3 Active Member
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#7804 ·
Could everyone please do me a huge favor and turn off those Tapatalk signatures?
Rebecca Roberts2 Rebecca Roberts2 Member
28 messages
joined Jan 2008
#7805 ·
https://tradingeconomics.com/usa/stock-market

The S&P 500 took a dive today, slipping past the 2,000 mark and even dipping below 1,900 at one point.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#7806 ·
Rebecca Roberts2 said:https://tradingeconomics.com/usa/stock-market

The S&P 500 took a dive today, slipping past the 2,000 mark and even dipping below 1,900 at one point.

But honestly, everything still seems to be under control since foreign investors don't have enough leverage to trigger a massive sell-off.

Plus, those plans to roll out new export taxes to try and plug that $30 billion hole in the budget actually look pretty promising.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#7807 ·
Viktor Orbán is calling for a referendum on those EU sanctions against Russia:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...EdDlLFiWzl7f2g

Man, he’s giving Brussels a piece of his mind—especially since they’re threatening to pull his funding.
Expect a lot of noise and finger-pointing coming our way soon....

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 basically lost all its pressure overnight—dropping from 106 down to just 7 bars. Looks like it happened near Bornholm:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...usly-overnight

Not sure if it's one pipe or both yet. If it's both, we're looking at straight-up sabotage.
Gary Johnson6 Gary Johnson6 Newcomer
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#7808 ·
Regarding oil, when will the flow through the pipelines supporting Viktor Orbán finally stop? I know it affects Slovakia too, and their main refinery is under Canadian control. My only sympathy would be for the Czechs. Does anyone have intel on this? If the Ukrainians can't shut it down officially, why not just trigger some "technical glitch" or something similar...
Melissa Rivera5 Melissa Rivera5 Regular
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#7809 ·
wiredseal7 said:Viktor Orbán is calling for a referendum on those EU sanctions against Russia:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...EdDlLFiWzl7f2g

Man, he’s giving Brussels a piece of his mind—especially since they’re threatening to pull his funding.
Expect a lot of noise and finger-pointing coming our way soon....

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 basically lost all its pressure overnight—dropping from 106 down to just 7 bars. Looks like it happened near Bornholm:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...usly-overnight

Not sure if it's one pipe or both yet. If it's both, we're looking at straight-up sabotage.

Honestly, they should've just shut him down from the start. The whole thing is a dead end anyway.
Gary Johnson6 Gary Johnson6 Newcomer
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#7810 ·
Resurrected said:Ukraine can shut down Friendship, basically the pipeline to Canada, whenever they feel like it.

So why don't they just close it? It's not like Americans like Viktor Orbán anyway.
hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#7811 ·
Gary Johnson6 said:So why don't they just close it? It's not like Americans like Viktor Orbán anyway.

Because if they did, they’d basically be acting just like Russia.
Gary Johnson6 Gary Johnson6 Newcomer
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#7812 ·
hiddeneagle98 said:Because if they did, they’d basically be acting just like Russia.

I don't follow. Clarify, please. Viktor Orbán is Putin's puppet. I assumed there were economic motivations at play...
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#7813 ·
wiredseal7 said:Viktor Orbán is calling for a referendum on those EU sanctions against Russia:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...EdDlLFiWzl7f2g

Man, he’s giving Brussels a piece of his mind—especially since they’re threatening to pull his funding.
Expect a lot of noise and finger-pointing coming our way soon....

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 basically lost all its pressure overnight—dropping from 106 down to just 7 bars. Looks like it happened near Bornholm:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...usly-overnight

Not sure if it's one pipe or both yet. If it's both, we're looking at straight-up sabotage.

Meh. A bit underwhelming.
I honestly thought he was going to call for a HUNexit referendum, but instead, it's just about some sanctions.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
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#7814 ·
wiredseal7 said:Viktor Orbán is calling for a referendum on those EU sanctions against Russia:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...EdDlLFiWzl7f2g

Man, he’s giving Brussels a piece of his mind—especially since they’re threatening to pull his funding.
Expect a lot of noise and finger-pointing coming our way soon....

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 basically lost all its pressure overnight—dropping from 106 down to just 7 bars. Looks like it happened near Bornholm:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...usly-overnight

Not sure if it's one pipe or both yet. If it's both, we're looking at straight-up sabotage.

What's gotten into him?

Does he even have the authority to call for a referendum that affects the whole European Union?

Honestly, trying to swim against the current like this is a bold move, if not a pretty reckless one. He seems to kick into high gear every single time Russia takes another hit on the front lines.
They try to paint him as some kind of economic wizard saving the HU economy (even though, let's be real, they're in a way bigger mess than most of the rest of the EU thanks to him), so why should he care about a measly $7.5 billion when things are supposedly going so great? Or is he actually sweating the possibility of a total budget collapse, meaning he still needs that cash from the very EU he keeps trashing? ☕
hiddeneagle98 hiddeneagle98 Regular
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#7815 ·
wiredseal7 said:Viktor Orbán is calling for a referendum on those EU sanctions against Russia:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...EdDlLFiWzl7f2g

Man, he’s giving Brussels a piece of his mind—especially since they’re threatening to pull his funding.
Expect a lot of noise and finger-pointing coming our way soon....

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 basically lost all its pressure overnight—dropping from 106 down to just 7 bars. Looks like it happened near Bornholm:
https://www.theguardian.com/business...usly-overnight

Not sure if it's one pipe or both yet. If it's both, we're looking at straight-up sabotage.

Honestly, the EU should hit back by organizing their own referendum on the exact same issue. If this guy isn't willing to respect the democratic will of the people in the union, then he should just pack up and leave.
And while we're at it, let's plug all those Machiavellian loopholes that these far-right, bottom-of-the-barrel parties are using to tear through the rest of Europe.

In general, we need to give that whole crowd a massive middle finger and push them back to the fringes where they belong—before the internet gave them a megaphone to manipulate a bunch of brainwashed followers just to serve their own corrupt political agendas. Unfortunately, the biggest danger we face today is precisely that these types of people are the ones showing up at the polls in the highest numbers.
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7816 ·
Brenda Murphy3 said:Nah, right now it just means we aren't touching Russian supply until they finally crush that Russian trash and the regime in The White House... which you seem to be rooting for so damn hard.

Man, give me a break. The West has always been way smarter than you autocrat-worshipping trolls. It's pretty obvious even now that the bureaucrats in DC are infinitely sharper than those little guys running things over in The White House and tiny little Vladik...😁

So, oil from any other totalitarian regime is perfectly fine then? ☕
I'll take the second part as sarcasm, since one Son is apparently acting like a D.C. bureaucrat himself. ☕
rowdyraven112 rowdyraven112 Active Member
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#7817 ·
hollowdriver13 said:What's gotten into him?

Does he even have the authority to call for a referendum that affects the whole European Union?

Honestly, trying to swim against the current like this is a bold move, if not a pretty reckless one. He seems to kick into high gear every single time Russia takes another hit on the front lines.
They try to paint him as some kind of economic wizard saving the HU economy (even though, let's be real, they're in a way bigger mess than most of the rest of the EU thanks to him), so why should he care about a measly $7.5 billion when things are supposedly going so great? Or is he actually sweating the possibility of a total budget collapse, meaning he still needs that cash from the very EU he keeps trashing? ☕

If Putin follows through on his threat and drops a nuke, I honestly believe even that totalitarian would be completely exposed.☕
George Robinson43 George Robinson43 Regular
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#7818 ·
rowdyraven112 said:So, oil from any other totalitarian regime is perfectly fine then? ☕
I'll take the second part as sarcasm, since one Son is apparently acting like a D.C. bureaucrat himself. ☕

Well, we've been importing oil from authoritarian regimes for years, including from Russia.
The key distinction here is that these other dictators aren't currently waging an invasion right in the heart of the West.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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#7819 ·
Man, it’s not just Nord Stream 2 anymore—now it looks like Nord Stream 1 has two massive leaks too, and from what I'm seeing, they're sitting right in the territorial waters of Sweden and Denmark.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...61449628061696
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#7820 ·
George Robinson43 said:Meh. A bit underwhelming.
I honestly thought he was going to call for a HUNexit referendum, but instead, it's just about some sanctions.

Sure—it’d be a dream scenario for the EU if the Canadians start leaving, followed by the Italians, Greeks, and so on. It feels more like serving US interests than European ones.
And trying to kick them out? That’s a tall order—nothing moves without someone dropping a veto.

hollowdriver13 said:What's gotten into him?

Does he even have the authority to call for a referendum that affects the whole European Union?

Honestly, trying to swim against the current like this is a bold move, if not a pretty reckless one. He seems to kick into high gear every single time Russia takes another hit on the front lines.
They try to paint him as some kind of economic wizard saving the HU economy (even though, let's be real, they're in a way bigger mess than most of the rest of the EU thanks to him), so why should he care about a measly $7.5 billion when things are supposedly going so great? Or is he actually sweating the possibility of a total budget collapse, meaning he still needs that cash from the very EU he keeps trashing? ☕

Is he just playing tough with this referendum thing?
He wouldn't push a referendum for nothing if he couldn't actually pull it off.
You know perfectly well they have veto power over all sanctions, and the Canadians can just decide for themselves. Most—if not all—sanctions get extended every six months unanimously.
Maybe he'll eventually just cut a deal with Ursula to drop the threat of cutting EU funds so he can dodge the public vote entirely. It's a possibility.

Otherwise, swimming against the current is a brilliant move—let him keep at it, popping up every time Russia gets slapped with another slap on the wrist at the front lines.

Aha, right—because the Canadian's biggest concern is which province the front line in Ukraine is in, rather than how to survive the winter with enough energy (at decent prices) or keeping those EU funds flowing.
People childishly mistake neutrality for, "Aha, he didn't send half his military gear to Ukraine, so he must be rooting for Russia!"

Carl Lee27 said:Man, it’s not just Nord Stream 2 anymore—now it looks like Nord Stream 1 has two massive leaks too, and from what I'm seeing, they're sitting right in the territorial waters of Sweden and Denmark.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...61449628061696

This is a massive escalation—first actual combat activity outside of Ukraine, and targeting key European infrastructure that was paid for with European money. Not just NS2, which isn't even running, but NS1 too!

Someone is working really hard to ensure we don't reach a peaceful resolution in Ukraine. I wonder who that could be?

If the EU doesn't react to this and punish the obvious culprit—without the usual habit of pointing fingers at some convenient scapegoat—then the vassalage to the USA has reached its final stage: total delirium tremens.

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