Sanctions on Russia

A former Polish foreign minister reacting to the news about the destruction of NS1 and NS2:

https://twitter.com/radeksikorski/st...Cj1bq26NorAAAA

Thank you, USA.

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It looks like the Russians, after already messing with the flow of NS1 and NS2, are now planning to pull the plug on deliveries through Ukraine altogether too.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...35774432444418

Carl Lee27 said:It looks like the Russians, after already messing with the flow of NS1 and NS2, are now planning to pull the plug on deliveries through Ukraine altogether too.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...35774432444418

Looks like they want to wrap this war up fast. Smart move.

Carl Lee27 said:It looks like the Russians, after already messing with the flow of NS1 and NS2, are now planning to pull the plug on deliveries through Ukraine altogether too.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...35774432444418

It’s funny how things line up, isn't it? Just when you blink, this brand-new "American think tank" drops a poll claiming that 57% of Americans are totally against sending more weapons to Ukraine if energy prices keep climbing. It’s being blasted across every major news outlet, which is hilarious because I can’t find a single shred of evidence that this survey was even conducted properly, let alone that it's legitimate. Then, out of nowhere, we get these explosions on gas pipelines that are already useless, driving up gas prices despite the fact that they aren't even functional anymore. And now, we have this latest news cycle designed to spike fuel costs even further. It’s all too convenient. To me, this looks like Putin’s final, desperate "all-in" move—a sort of quasi-total mobilization where he’s willing to sacrifice the entire gas business just to pull off a massive psychological operation. It feels like a calculated attempt to weaken Western resolve and force us toward the negotiating table, which usually means he gets to walk away with whatever he stole in the first place.

New EU sanctions against Russia are being announced, including price caps on oil sales to "third countries" (according to Teleteks).

Does anyone actually know what this means in practice, or how they plan to enforce it?
Are they just going to stop providing insurance for tankers? Is that even going to work?

Linda Collins3 said:New EU sanctions against Russia are being announced, including price caps on oil sales to "third countries" (according to Teleteks).

Does anyone actually know what this means in practice, or how they plan to enforce it?
Are they just going to stop providing insurance for tankers? Is that even going to work?

If a country decides to ignore the sanctions, they could end up getting hit themselves—on top of losing access to tanker insurance.

Linda Collins3 said:New EU sanctions against Russia are being announced, including price caps on oil sales to "third countries" (according to Teleteks).

Does anyone actually know what this means in practice, or how they plan to enforce it?
Are they just going to stop providing insurance for tankers? Is that even going to work?

All I know is that it’s going to be incredibly effective at emptying my wallet. 🤮

If you look at the footage circulating on X, it’s pretty obvious that the Russian military was already a complete mess long before any sanctions even hit. The massive exodus from Russia and those waves of protests didn't just pop up out of nowhere because McDonald's turned into Tocko; they actually kicked off during the mobilization phase. 🙂

Caught some footage on a French news channel today showing Russian tankers refueling Greek ones right out in the middle of the ocean.

At the same time, cutting production in Russia frees up workers in the oil and gas sectors for mobilization .

The whole sabotage saga surrounding the pipelines just keeps dragging on.
That Polish MEP—quite the "gentleman"—actually deleted his tweet where he was thanking the USA.
He clearly overplayed his hand a bit 🤣

While everyone defaults to blaming Russia for every single poisoning incident—with or without actual proof—European officials and the media won't even dare *speculate* that a Western nation might be behind this. There isn't a single word about that possibility. They just timidly offer up Russia as the culprit—which nobody actually believes, but it gives them a convenient scapegoat to point at.

Norway has moved troops in around their gas installations, which makes it pretty obvious who they’re actually afraid of—certainly not the ones who blew up the Russian pipeline, since they're clearly thrilled with the outcome.
And since the Norwegians provide a massive 25% of Europe's gas:
https://twitter.com/AndreasSteno/sta...hj8VCh8FO8lLSQ

The EU is also staying quiet on what kind of sanctions might happen if the culprit is actually found. I mean, why bother looking for evidence that points back to the USA?
It probably was them, but the EU (and Germany too) will likely just swallow any amount of crap to keep things quiet. They're basically stuck dealing with the fallout of a 'freedom fart' ☕anyway

wiredseal7 said:The whole sabotage saga surrounding the pipelines just keeps dragging on.
That Polish MEP—quite the "gentleman"—actually deleted his tweet where he was thanking the USA.
He clearly overplayed his hand a bit 🤣

While everyone defaults to blaming Russia for every single poisoning incident—with or without actual proof—European officials and the media won't even dare *speculate* that a Western nation might be behind this. There isn't a single word about that possibility. They just timidly offer up Russia as the culprit—which nobody actually believes, but it gives them a convenient scapegoat to point at.

Norway has moved troops in around their gas installations, which makes it pretty obvious who they’re actually afraid of—certainly not the ones who blew up the Russian pipeline, since they're clearly thrilled with the outcome.
And since the Norwegians provide a massive 25% of Europe's gas:
https://twitter.com/AndreasSteno/sta...hj8VCh8FO8lLSQ

The EU is also staying quiet on what kind of sanctions might happen if the culprit is actually found. I mean, why bother looking for evidence that points back to the USA?
It probably was them, but the EU (and Germany too) will likely just swallow any amount of crap to keep things quiet. They're basically stuck dealing with the fallout of a 'freedom fart' ☕anyway

Sorry, but what do you mean "swallowing crap" regarding NS1/2? The West probably detonated it themselves, honestly. It feels like a move to send a message to Russia that they're dead serious about ending all future trade. It's a clean break from Russia, not some half-hearted attempt. Plus, it serves as a perfect excuse to ramp up security for similar infrastructure. 🙂

There’s really no point in arguing over who actually pulled off the sabotage, since we’re likely never going to get a straight answer anyway. It makes sense to consider if the USA coordinated this with Germany, though honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Russia was behind it too. They seem to be in such a bizarre conflict with basic logic that it wouldn't even surprise me if they decided to drop a nuke on Moscow themselves just for the hell of it.

Melissa Rivera5 said:Sorry, but what do you mean "swallowing crap" regarding NS1/2? The West probably detonated it themselves, honestly. It feels like a move to send a message to Russia that they're dead serious about ending all future trade. It's a clean break from Russia, not some half-hearted attempt. Plus, it serves as a perfect excuse to ramp up security for similar infrastructure. 🙂

If the West actually pulled the trigger, the culprits have to be either the reckless ones—Poland or Ukraine—or the USA and UK.

Poland is basically the only one there acting independently within the EU, though they’re pretty "rogue" compared to the rest, especially when it comes to Russia. As for the EU itself, they were kept totally in the dark, and they're likely feeling the sting now that infrastructure is being wiped out without warning—even if it was aimed at Russia. Now they just have to suck it up, because heaven forbid anyone criticizes the big boss.

wiredseal7 said:If the West actually pulled the trigger, the culprits have to be either the reckless ones—Poland or Ukraine—or the USA and UK.

Poland is basically the only one there acting independently within the EU, though they’re pretty "rogue" compared to the rest, especially when it comes to Russia. As for the EU itself, they were kept totally in the dark, and they're likely feeling the sting now that infrastructure is being wiped out without warning—even if it was aimed at Russia. Now they just have to suck it up, because heaven forbid anyone criticizes the big boss.

What possible motive could the West have to detonate such a thing? What twisted logic leads you to reach that conclusion?

The only party reaping any benefit from this chaos is Russia, as their sole objective remains sowing deep-seated insecurity and widespread panic throughout the EU.

The only nation that has been operating in a state of pure madness, both currently and for the better part of the last fifteen years, is Russia, which makes your choice of bold text quite frankly repulsive.

Poland is essentially the only one here within the EU, yet they act remarkably rogue compared to their neighbors, particularly regarding all matters involving Russia.

I suppose they simply have no reason at all to do it, those wicked Poles.

Paul Anderson7 said:There’s really no point in arguing over who actually pulled off the sabotage, since we’re likely never going to get a straight answer anyway. It makes sense to consider if the USA coordinated this with Germany, though honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if Russia was behind it too. They seem to be in such a bizarre conflict with basic logic that it wouldn't even surprise me if they decided to drop a nuke on Moscow themselves just for the hell of it.

I’d still argue the point though, because technology has come such a long way lately that you can pinpoint exactly who was there and who carried out this "sabotage"—every single submarine is tracked constantly, so we know where they are and which direction they're heading.
Another thing is that, say, the Russians have the footage or some kind of proof, but Brussels has basically banned the EU from releasing it, so we're left in the dark; if it really was the Russians, they would have flashed that evidence in our faces by now.

It’s pretty clear that the pipelines sitting idle have been sabotaged, whereas the operational ones—like the TurkStream line—remain untouched.
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It’s entirely possible this is just a minor setback, perhaps designed specifically to gauge how the EU reacts...

If the USA truly intended to shut down Russian gas exports, they would have gone after the pipelines actually in use—or at least the main ones—rather than sabotaging the ones that aren't even being utilized... ☕