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Sanctions on Russia

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Dennis Price Dennis Price Active Member
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joined Mar 2022
#1321 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Beyond just raw materials, Russia is a major arms exporter—but that revenue stream is basically dead in the water.

1) The Russian military has taken—and will continue to take—massive losses; any scrap of production they manage to scrape together is going to be diverted straight to their own front lines.

2) Almost nobody on the global stage is looking to buy Russian weapons anymore (I’m talking about new contracts, not old backlogs)—their reputation has tanked. Even if you chalk some of it up to poor tactical execution, they honestly don't have anything left to "show off" in the international market.

3) Western sanctions are going to hit their technical manufacturing capabilities hard.

4) A lot of those "neutral" countries are going to be very careful not to piss off the West by picking up Russian hardware.

Effective result? We're looking at a return to 90s-style desperation—selling to whoever has spare cash, mostly rogue regimes with no other options, or maybe to China at bottom-dollar prices.

I see the whole weapon situation a bit differently. The price of Russian hardware is going to crater. At the end of the day, a gun is still a gun—all that stuff will probably end up in Africa within the next 15 years or so. There are plenty of hungry young people out there willing to take risks, much like what used to be the case in Europe.
Jason Fox2 Jason Fox2 Member
24 messages
joined Mar 2012
#1322 ·
I honestly have no clue how the dollar has weakened this much lately. I was totally bracing for things to level out around 1.50 or 1.60 against the greenback, but now we're looking at 0.90 to 0.95.
hollowdriver13 hollowdriver13 Regular
705 messages
joined Feb 2022
#1323 ·
Jason Fox2 said:I honestly have no clue how the dollar has weakened this much lately. I was totally bracing for things to level out around 1.50 or 1.60 against the greenback, but now we're looking at 0.90 to 0.95.

There's a total ban on selling foreign currency within the Russian Federation. Any company getting paid in foreign cash has to convert it all straight into rubles the moment they receive it, which is basically forcing a massive spike in demand for the local currency.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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joined Apr 2021
#1324 ·
Dennis Price said:I see the whole weapon situation a bit differently. The price of Russian hardware is going to crater. At the end of the day, a gun is still a gun—all that stuff will probably end up in Africa within the next 15 years or so. There are plenty of hungry young people out there willing to take risks, much like what used to be the case in Europe.

For sure, but they weren't pulling in billions from Kalashnikovs and RPGs—it was the high-end stuff like air defense missiles, Su-30 variants, T90s, and the like. And those are the items being snapped up by Indonesia, Egypt, the Emirates, Algeria, and so on.
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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joined Dec 2012
#1325 ·
Russia is churning out a mere 3 million barrels a day. To put that into perspective: back in 2021, the Russian Federation was averaging just under 10 million barrels daily. That means, according to the data, Russian production could potentially crater by nearly a third. The report doesn't dwell on the "why" for long—it points directly to international sanctions and the fact that buyers are simply turning their backs on Russian oil.
source
https://www.bfm.ru/news/495411

Kommersant : The construction of The Northern Latitudinal Railway Has been postponed Newsline The government of The Russian Federation took such a step duo to The deteriorating economic situation
Newsline
The government of The Russian Federation took such a step duo to The deteriorating economic situation.
https://www.bfm.ru/news/495429
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
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joined Dec 2012
#1326 ·
Poland is no longer going to buy Russian gas and renew The contract, which ends this year

And that news comes straight from a paper owned by one of Putin's most loyal supporters.

https://vz.ru/news/2022/3/17/1149058.html
wearytrucker22 wearytrucker22 Active Member
222 messages
joined Dec 2012
#1327 ·
Rogozin Said that Russia itself will send a Mission to Mars
and they’re planning on doing it via an even bigger and more beautiful route 😁😁
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/829824

These people have truly lost it. This whole thing is pure insanity.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#1328 ·
Carl Lee27 said:Honestly, Russians and Chinese people are just incredibly cunning operators; I wouldn't be shocked one bit if this whole thing is just a massive performance staged for the rest of the world, while they’re actually shaking hands under the table and cooperating way more than they’d ever let anyone realize.

I agree, though I think the Chinese realize Americans have access to the most sensitive Russian intel, so any help that doesn't align with the West would trigger massive sanctions. The Chinese are going to be extremely careful.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
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joined May 2023
#1329 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Rogozin Said that Russia itself will send a Mission to Mars
and they’re planning on doing it via an even bigger and more beautiful route 😁😁
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/829824

These people have truly lost it. This whole thing is pure insanity.

At this rate, Mars might be the only destination left where Americans aren't being barred from flight.
Sam Alvarez4 Sam Alvarez4 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#1330 ·
wearytrucker22 said:Rogozin Said that Russia itself will send a Mission to Mars
and they’re planning on doing it via an even bigger and more beautiful route 😁😁
https://www.interfax.ru/russia/829824

These people have truly lost it. This whole thing is pure insanity.

Everyone is just getting the silent treatment everywhere.
Carl Lee27 Carl Lee27 Regular
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joined Feb 2024
#1331 ·
Check out this even older and arguably better version of McDonald's — it's called 'Uncle Vania'

Quote : New trademark registered in Russia. "Дядя Ваня" - "Uncle Vania," Nasha Niva reports https://t.co/xf2r8WbTrY
Grace Bennett6 Grace Bennett6 Active Member
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joined Feb 2022
#1332 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Beyond just raw materials, Russia is a major arms exporter—but that revenue stream is basically dead in the water.

1) The Russian military has taken—and will continue to take—massive losses; any scrap of production they manage to scrape together is going to be diverted straight to their own front lines.

2) Almost nobody on the global stage is looking to buy Russian weapons anymore (I’m talking about new contracts, not old backlogs)—their reputation has tanked. Even if you chalk some of it up to poor tactical execution, they honestly don't have anything left to "show off" in the international market.

3) Western sanctions are going to hit their technical manufacturing capabilities hard.

4) A lot of those "neutral" countries are going to be very careful not to piss off the West by picking up Russian hardware.

Effective result? We're looking at a return to 90s-style desperation—selling to whoever has spare cash, mostly rogue regimes with no other options, or maybe to China at bottom-dollar prices.

Besides China, they're also churning out and peddling their own weaponry...
Here's what they're focused on: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...y-rome-meeting

My gut feeling? The West is going to pivot toward African nations. It's a grim outlook.
Arthur Booth96 Arthur Booth96 Active Member
53 messages
joined Feb 2011
#1333 ·
So, here’s how the Russian government thinks they’re going to dodge those sanctions and somehow pull their economy out of the gutter:
Keith Martin7 Keith Martin7 Member
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joined Jun 2022
#1334 ·
Because of the aggression against Ukraine, the US is going to freeze six Russian yachts and seven companies
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
604 messages
joined Sep 2014
#1335 ·
Arthur Booth96 said:So, here’s how the Russian government thinks they’re going to dodge those sanctions and somehow pull their economy out of the gutter:

The kicker:

Russia just authorized $117 million in payments to bondholders due this Wednesday in US dollars. The funds are sitting in state accounts frozen abroad. Now, the ball is in the court of the USA and their allies to actually approve the transfer. If they don't? Well, the Russian government has already ordered that the debt be settled in rubles using the central bank's official exchange rate at the moment of transfer. Western institutions are digging in their heels, claiming that if Russia doesn't pay in the original currency, it’ll be their first default in a century. Meanwhile, Moscow is calling BS, insisting the West is trying to force an "artificial default" since the country clearly has the cash—they're just being blocked from touching it.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
292 messages
joined May 2023
#1336 ·
It isn’t particularly compelling, really—just another hollow 4D chess move aimed at domestic consumption. They simply can't settle the bill using funds they don't actually control.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#1337 ·
slyfox43 said:It isn’t particularly compelling, really—just another hollow 4D chess move aimed at domestic consumption. They simply can't settle the bill using funds they don't actually control.

What *is* interesting is that if they fail to pay those foreign currency bonds per the contract, it's a straight shot to default. And let's face it—Russia's funds outside the Russian Federation are legally frozen.
Megan Thomas5 Megan Thomas5 Active Member
132 messages
joined Jan 2021
#1338 ·
It’s a joke. Sure, you can make a copy, but it’s still just a knockoff—it'll never be the real deal.
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2009
#1339 ·
Yeah, the logo is definitely the strongest part. 🙏

Pure troll factor—it's off the charts.
slyfox43 slyfox43 Regular
292 messages
joined May 2023
#1340 ·
Putin's Russia has always leaned heavily on the troll factor.

And a few other things besides.

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