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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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Carl Jackson Carl Jackson Newcomer
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joined Apr 2012
#2741 ·
Larry Lewis said:You missed the mark on your grammar there—you probably meant "we can" instead of "I can," and you should have used "we are" instead of "I am"... just a little joke, though.🙂

I'm definitely not following... So, you're saying aggression isn't a symptom that triggers the episode, but rather someone who isn't aggressive suddenly becomes so...?🤷
The question is this: when you have no idea what’s actually going on inside someone else's head—or how, when, or why a cycle starts up again—how can an outsider spot the signs first? What's the easiest way to notice before any kind of action can even be taken?...
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#2742 ·
Carl Jackson;39164217 said:
I'm definitely not following... so you're saying aggression isn't necessarily a symptom of starting an episode, but rather someone who wasn't aggressive becomes so during one?🤷

It's not quite that simple. Just look at what Henry Garcia9 posted:
During episodes, they can be aggressive, but when they aren't in psychosis, they're just as aggressive or non-aggressive as anyone else.

The key is "can be."

Look, this might sound harsh, but you can't help someone who refuses treatment—especially if their immediate family is enabling them. It’s just the reality of it. From what I can tell, you don't live with her, so you aren't seeing the day-to-day behavior, only what you hear about later. You can't really draw conclusions from that. And even if you could, it wouldn't change much because, again, she doesn't want help. In the US, unless they are an immediate danger to themselves or others, you can't force someone into a hospital against their will.

If you've ever encountered someone in a psychotic state, you'll usually know it immediately...
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2743 ·
I convinced myself I had some spiritual connection to the Bible because of a mark on my right hip—some kind of sign from Revelation, though I can't recall the chapter... It’s a heavy hallucination that haunted me for quite a while. When I told my first husband and my brother, they just looked at me like I’d lost it. My brother was just like, "So what?" and my ex asked who else I had told, but I just told my brother...
I suspect it will be difficult to hold the Bible again, though I hope I can eventually read it without thinking that the mark on my hip means something more than it does 🙄

What a heavy hallucination 🙄🙄🙄☕🙄

Horrible ☕
Carl Jackson Carl Jackson Newcomer
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#2744 ·
Mrs. Pringles;39166996 said:
Carl Jackson said:I'm definitely not following... So, you're saying aggression isn't a symptom that triggers the episode, but rather someone who isn't aggressive suddenly becomes so...?🤷
The question is this: when you have no idea what’s actually going on inside someone else's head—or how, when, or why a cycle starts up again—how can an outsider spot the signs first? What's the easiest way to notice before any kind of action can even be taken?...

You're right. I know that firsthand, and it hurts. It worries me every single day. I think I'm subconsciously trying to "comfort" myself by thinking I'm doing something useful by consulting people who know more than I do... instead of just sitting idle.
The truth is, I'm actually doing nothing.
On top of that, I have no one in my actual life to share these thoughts, fears, and questions with.
Every day is just a cycle of fear and endless questions, all without any goal or way to move the needle. I know.
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2745 ·
Back in high school, I actually thought my philosophy teacher, Tomislav Reškovac—who’s quite the media figure now—was basically Jesus 🤣🤣🤣
But I was wrong. He really caught my interest when he lectured on Thomas Aquinas, much like how my grandfather, Tom, used to captivate me—may God rest his soul... though, am I just having another hallucination? 🤷☕
Karen Garcia4 Karen Garcia4 Member
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#2746 ·
Larry Lewis said:car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDBn4S61E8


That's a genuinely great song... immediately made me think of heading to the coast.

I’ve never allowed myself to dive too deep into analyzing my own psycho-emotional states. It never ends well. Just look at how the people around you live. In my line of work, I see some of the toughest cases of all kinds of mental health struggles—people who never even consider that their behavior isn't quite right. They always blame their aggressive outbursts or depressive episodes on external factors. They cling to conspiracy theories that don't exist and jump to conclusions that remind me of days spent in the hospital...

What I mean is, once an episode passes, when you finally realize you were just high or out of it, you stop thinking with a "psychiatric brain" and just move on with life, through the good days and the bad. Realistically speaking, being a psychiatric case in America today isn't easy. You're still met with looks of fear or pity—looks that make you want to either lie about it or just lock yourself in your apartment and never come out. In those moments, when you feel depressed, you aren't actually depressed. You're just, unfortunately, being realistic.

I had to completely overhaul my social life. Friends I used to have became mere acquaintances, and acquaintances became people to avoid. My two best friends today are both psychiatric cases—former ones, hopefully. If I could just find a girlfriend with a diagnosis, I'd be the happiest man alive...🙂
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2747 ·
Has anyone else here spiraled into total madness besides me? ☕

To be fair, schizoaffective disorder 🤷☕

--->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder

😉
Joshua Lewis9 Joshua Lewis9 Member
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joined Jan 2009
#2748 ·
Hey everyone!

I’m not on here much because life gets busy, but I pop in from time to time to follow this psychosis thread—checking out what outblue or printerica wrote... my dear

"dddddddddddd," some folks are really ganging up on you, printerica, but I'm not buying into it... printerica... and honestly, I don't even know what your handle is these days... but whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm not trying to act like I have all the answers, but I want to share my actual lived experience. I won't lecture you, just wanted to point out a few things...

Look, I'm 20, and by all accounts, I should be spending all my time bouncing between hospitals... if you've read my old posts and seen the guidelines I wrote... they didn't get many replies, or if they did, it was just idiots commenting... but hey, no big deal...

Now, I don't know if you've heard about Hagio therapy from Ivančić, but there are psychiatrists out there who actually specialize in it. If you can find a doctor who uses Hagio therapy, trust me, it’s a total game-changer... it'll work wonders for you...

And listen, if one treatment isn't hitting the mark and you're still dealing with hallucinations or delusions... keep switching medications until you find the right fit. It's hard for just one single drug to tackle everything. Honestly, this condition has to run its course over time, and thank goodness new meds are coming out every day. Sometimes you need an antipsychotic injection combined with oral meds to really shut down a psychosis, and other times you might need 2mg to 5mg of something like Norbell or Xanax just to stop your mind from racing and those delusions from spiraling. It’s amazing when your thoughts are wonderful and bright... but when those delusions hit, having 2mg to 5mg of Norbell or Xanax helps. Even 2mg can do the trick. If that's not enough, try a tiny bit more—maybe just a little extra 2mg—to keep those bad thoughts and delusions at bay...

Take care!

Peace... yours☕☕☕☕☕ ☕☕☕☕☕
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2749 ·
Where are those links where friends and family members were describing how much they can't stand the schizophrenics or the crazies living nearby, and just how difficult and unbearable they are? Can I get a link 😍?

🤣🤣🤣☕
Karen Garcia4 Karen Garcia4 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#2750 ·
slystag43 said:Has anyone else here spiraled into total madness besides me? ☕

To be fair, schizoaffective disorder 🤷☕

--->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoaffective_disorder

😉

Oh, wonderful. For years now, my entire family, doctors, and everyone close to me have been telling me to just accept the diagnosis—that by denying it, I'm only making things harder. And then, once I finally decide to face it,
someone actually tells me that's not what I have. To make matters even more ironic, it's coming from someone else dealing with schizophrenia...
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2751 ·
Karen Garcia4 said:Oh, wonderful. For years now, my entire family, doctors, and everyone close to me have been telling me to just accept the diagnosis—that by denying it, I'm only making things harder. And then, once I finally decide to face it,
someone actually tells me that's not what I have. To make matters even more ironic, it's coming from someone else dealing with schizophrenia...

Medical Encyclopedia, Washington, D.C., 1970, Vol. 5, SHIZOPHRENIA:
Schizophrenia refers to a large group of common mental disorders (psychosis), with insufficiently understood etiology and pathogenesis; these disorders are characterized by specific psychological symptoms, and in most cases, they involve a disorganization (split) of the personality. The symptomatology and course of the disease vary significantly among different groups and in individual cases............................................recovery can occur at any stage of the illness........................schizophrenia combined with manic-depressive psychosis (my case) ............ and that spans 11 large pages of tiny print...

My favorite part is the section on how physical build either favors or hinders the prognosis and outcome.😂🤣

🙂 ☕👍

I believe that even if you visit an alternative healer, they might help, but you are still on your own. When a psychiatrist prescribes medication, you are still on your own. A million pieces of advice, yet in the end, a person remains alone with themselves.

Personally, my soul is at peace, and that is what feeds my recovery.
Henry Garcia9 Henry Garcia9 Member
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joined Jul 2013
#2752 ·
Whatever. I don't get why you're even bothering to dig through an encyclopedia that’s basically a relic from forty years ago—it's just a goldmine of outdated junk. Besides, at the end of the day, everyone walks into this world alone and leaves it alone, whether they're sick or healthy. We all have our own baggage to deal with.
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2753 ·
Henry Garcia9 said:Whatever. I don't get why you're even bothering to dig through an encyclopedia that’s basically a relic from forty years ago—it's just a goldmine of outdated junk. Besides, at the end of the day, everyone walks into this world alone and leaves it alone, whether they're sick or healthy. We all have our own baggage to deal with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...o%3ATra%C5%BEi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shizoaffective_disorder

☕
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#2754 ·
Honestly, I couldn't care less about all those medical diagnoses—as long as the money keeps rolling in, they can call it schizophrenia for all I care. Let them chase their little pipe dreams. And frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone thinks of me anyway.🙂
Karen Garcia4 Karen Garcia4 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#2755 ·
Larry Lewis said:Honestly, I couldn't care less about all those medical diagnoses—as long as the money keeps rolling in, they can call it schizophrenia for all I care. Let them chase their little pipe dreams. And frankly, I don't give a damn what anyone thinks of me anyway.🙂

I couldn't agree more. If some distant relative from across the country suddenly cut you a check for $10,000 every single month for the rest of your life, believe me, you’d be looking at a psychiatrist pretty quickly... $133I wouldn't have had any time for that...🙂
Henry Garcia9 Henry Garcia9 Member
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#2756 ·
Karen Garcia4 said:I couldn't agree more. If some distant relative from across the country suddenly cut you a check for $10,000 every single month for the rest of your life, believe me, you’d be looking at a psychiatrist pretty quickly... $133I wouldn't have had any time for that...🙂

I’d have all the time in the world, honestly. I mean, what’s the point of having money if I’m losing my mind and can't even afford to see a psychiatrist?
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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joined Dec 2010
#2757 ·
Henry Garcia9 said:I’d have all the time in the world, honestly. I mean, what’s the point of having money if I’m losing my mind and can't even afford to see a psychiatrist?

Look, let’s be real here—my situation isn't likely to change overnight, but money buys you one thing above all else: autonomy. I don't need a fleet of three Mercedes-Benzes parked in my driveway; what I actually need is the freedom to exist without anyone breathing down my neck or dictating my every move. It's hard enough dealing with schizophrenia as it is—honestly, it feels like a full-time job just staying afloat—so why would I want to deal with some toxic manager at work who treats me like an outcast or whispers behind my back? Dealing with people who judge or push you away just because of your diagnosis... it's exhausting.
u the past.
neontrucker23 neontrucker23 Member
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joined May 2012
#2758 ·
Larry Lewis said:Look, let’s be real here—my situation isn't likely to change overnight, but money buys you one thing above all else: autonomy. I don't need a fleet of three Mercedes-Benzes parked in my driveway; what I actually need is the freedom to exist without anyone breathing down my neck or dictating my every move. It's hard enough dealing with schizophrenia as it is—honestly, it feels like a full-time job just staying afloat—so why would I want to deal with some toxic manager at work who treats me like an outcast or whispers behind my back? Dealing with people who judge or push you away just because of your diagnosis... it's exhausting.
u the past.

Has anyone else messed around with Zyprexa or Solian? To be honest, I’ve been feeling like neither of them is exactly a miracle cure—if you can even call them that. I guess it feels like they both kind of miss the mark for me. Has anyone actually found something better out there, or is this whole thing just a total roll of the dice depending on the person? Maybe it's just my luck, I suppose. dg f20
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#2759 ·
neontrucker23 said:Has anyone else messed around with Zyprexa or Solian? To be honest, I’ve been feeling like neither of them is exactly a miracle cure—if you can even call them that. I guess it feels like they both kind of miss the mark for me. Has anyone actually found something better out there, or is this whole thing just a total roll of the dice depending on the person? Maybe it's just my luck, I suppose. dg f20

It’s all highly individual, really—you basically have to play a long game of trial and error until you find something that doesn't make you feel like a zombie. My diagnosis is F20.0.

As for Zyprexa—well, it works, and there's plenty of evidence to back that up—but Solian? I can't say for sure. It kept me steady for a little while, but then it just... fizzled out. It became completely ineffective, so after talking it over with my doctor, we decided to switch gears.

From what I can gather, a massive number of patients are on Zyprexa and find relief; the one big caveat you have to watch out for is how easily it can cause weight gain. It's a real struggle.

And regarding Solian—I know a few people who were put on it as a therapy, only to have it pulled from their regimen almost as quickly as it was started, much like my own experience.
slystag43 slystag43 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#2760 ·
Larry Lewis said:Look, let’s be real here—my situation isn't likely to change overnight, but money buys you one thing above all else: autonomy. I don't need a fleet of three Mercedes-Benzes parked in my driveway; what I actually need is the freedom to exist without anyone breathing down my neck or dictating my every move. It's hard enough dealing with schizophrenia as it is—honestly, it feels like a full-time job just staying afloat—so why would I want to deal with some toxic manager at work who treats me like an outcast or whispers behind my back? Dealing with people who judge or push you away just because of your diagnosis... it's exhausting.
u the past.

You're wasting your breath. You know the world is headed toward a Star Trek future where love won't even be necessary... 🙂

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