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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3421 ·
Eric Mitchell55 said:I can't shake this feeling lately... it’s like people are actually a little bit afraid of me. I don't know if it's my vibe or just something in my face, but there's this sense that people are keeping their distance. It's a strange thing to deal with, honestly. 🙄

Absolutely. 😍

That isn't just a feeling you're having; it's simply the reality of the situation.

Separately from your personal experience, it absolutely drives me up the wall when the news reports some tragedy and immediately labels the perpetrator as a schizophrenic.
It’s presented as if that's the headline, 🙄 and then we all collectively act like murderers ourselves. As if we're just being "aggressive." Give me a break.

The vast majority of people who commit murder are perfectly "normal" individuals. I won't go down a rabbit hole discussing the history of warfare or the darker side of human nature right now, but the point remains.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3422 ·
Larry Lewis said:The absolute worst part about dealing with this illness—if you can even call it that—is the crushing necessity to be more enlightened and far more patient than those "healthy" people out there... it’s truly exhausting🙂

Yeah, exactly. That's spot on. ☕
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3423 ·
I just polished off the very last scrap of my neighbor's leftovers—honestly, I feel a bit guilty about it—so now I’m left staring at an empty fridge and wondering where on earth I'm going to find lunch tomorrow.🙂
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#3424 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:That isn't just a feeling you're having; it's simply the reality of the situation.

Separately from your personal experience, it absolutely drives me up the wall when the news reports some tragedy and immediately labels the perpetrator as a schizophrenic.
It’s presented as if that's the headline, 🙄 and then we all collectively act like murderers ourselves. As if we're just being "aggressive." Give me a break.

The vast majority of people who commit murder are perfectly "normal" individuals. I won't go down a rabbit hole discussing the history of warfare or the darker side of human nature right now, but the point remains.

Right, because if one person does it, we’re all somehow responsible. Personally, I’m nowhere near an aggressive person, and if I ever do lose my cool, it’s usually just directed at myself.

And the main thing is that we're labeled as "crazy," while some guy who gets drunk and beats his wife is seen as perfectly fine. He isn't "crazy."
Fuck off 😍
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3425 ·
So, you're claiming you aren't being outwardly aggressive toward others, but instead, you're just taking all that hostility out on yourself? ☕
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#3426 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:So, you're claiming you aren't being outwardly aggressive toward others, but instead, you're just taking all that hostility out on yourself? ☕

Yeah, that’s pretty much what I’m getting at. :D
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3427 ·
And then there's me, staring at my screen while it tells me I don't fit into either category. 🙄
Why should you even bother stressing over the details? At the end of the day, the only thing that actually matters is how you feel, and you already know that better than anyone else.
And then there’s that one part where you realize some people are just fundamentally wired to be chaotic; unfortunately, once someone hits that level of irrationality, they stay there, and you just have to accept that reality. ☕
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3428 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:Only in the bedroom. 😁

Oh, and by the way, yeah, I am aggressive. I mean it. There was this one poor guy on a forum once where I went so hard on his full name that if you searched him on Google, every single one of those posts would pop right up. Was that aggressive? Absolutely.
Was it crazy? Sure. Did he hold a grudge? You bet.
And did I eventually make things right with the moderators and work to get all that stuff scrubbed from the internet? I did.
So what's the big deal now? Nothing. 🥳

Honestly, if I were actually more aggressive, I probably would've gotten way further in life 😢
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3429 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Honestly, if I were actually more aggressive, I probably would've gotten way further in life 😢

I know exactly where you're coming from. I actually found myself sitting there in my psychiatrist's office, trying to explain that I’m not being aggressive enough. It sounds absurd when I say it out loud, but it’s the most honest thing I've said in a session. I don't know how else to put it, if you catch my drift.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3430 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:I know exactly where you're coming from. I actually found myself sitting there in my psychiatrist's office, trying to explain that I’m not being aggressive enough. It sounds absurd when I say it out loud, but it’s the most honest thing I've said in a session. I don't know how else to put it, if you catch my drift.

It’s not even that I need to go out there and start picking fights, it’s just that I need to stop letting people walk all over me and actually fight for what's mine.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3431 ·
David Vaughn75 said:It’s not even that I need to go out there and start picking fights, it’s just that I need to stop letting people walk all over me and actually fight for what's mine.

Fine, I went ahead and deleted it. Honestly, I don't know; I'll fight for whatever battles are worth the effort, and if they aren't, then they aren't.
You'll make it happen. As they say, where there's a will, there's a way. 🧐
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3432 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:Fine, I went ahead and deleted it. Honestly, I don't know; I'll fight for whatever battles are worth the effort, and if they aren't, then they aren't.
You'll make it happen. As they say, where there's a will, there's a way. 🧐

It's all about finding that sweet spot, you know? Finding that balance. 🧐
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3433 ·
🤣

I just found out that sex is considered such a taboo subject among people in their 30s, and while I suppose that individual might have a point, it leads me to wonder if schizophrenia is also treated with that same level of social avoidance 🤣☕
fadedlynx96 fadedlynx96 Active Member
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#3434 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:🤣

I just found out that sex is considered such a taboo subject among people in their 30s, and while I suppose that individual might have a point, it leads me to wonder if schizophrenia is also treated with that same level of social avoidance 🤣☕

I'm not entirely following this post; is this guy your boyfriend, a potential boyfriend, or what exactly?

If he isn't talking about sex, does that mean you won't talk about schizo issues either?

It’s all pretty unclear to me, but I really should get to sleep.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3435 ·
fadedlynx96 said:I'm not entirely following this post; is this guy your boyfriend, a potential boyfriend, or what exactly?

If he isn't talking about sex, does that mean you won't talk about schizo issues either?

It’s all pretty unclear to me, but I really should get to sleep.

He’s just a friend who happens to be my neighbor. We were just discussing how, despite it being 2024, sex remains such a heavy taboo.
I wasn't hitting on him or anything; we were just talking.
I don't have any issue discussing any topic, really.
But if you ask me, schizophrenia is actually a much bigger taboo than sex, which is why I'm glad we have these 173 pages dedicated to the subject.

And within this thread, we have people actually living with these mental health conditions, as well as those who live with them or know them personally. It can be incredibly draining to deal with someone who is struggling. Sometimes, navigating a relationship with someone dealing with an illness is just plain difficult. 😛

Mental Health Classifications:
1 F00–F99 – Mental and behavioral disorders
1.1 (F00–F09) Organic, including symptomatic, mental disorders
1.2 (F10–F19) Mental and behavioral disorders due to psychoactive substance use
1.3 (F20–F29) Schizophrenia, schizotypal and delusional disorders
1.4 (F30–F39) Mood (affective) disorders
1.5 (F40–F48) Neurotic, stress-related and somatoform disorders
1.6 (F50–F59) Behavioral syndromes associated with physiological disturbances and physical factors
1.7 (F60–F69) Disorders of adult personality and behavior
1.8 (F70–F79) Intellectual disabilities
1.9 (F80–F89) Disorders of psychological development
1.10 (F90–F98) Behavioral and emotional disorders with onset usually occurring in childhood and adolescence
1.11 (F99) Unspecified mental disorder
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3436 ·
Would you all agree with me that schizophrenia should be classified as a physical disease?
I'm convinced it is.☕
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3437 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:Would you all agree with me that schizophrenia should be classified as a physical disease?
I'm convinced it is.☕

Look, if a person is seeing or hearing things that aren't there—obviously—then something is physically malfunctioning in their brain. It’s basic biology. For me, the absolute worst part is this constant, exhausting instability—you know, those subtle shifts—where I might feel perfectly fine for two or three days, and then suddenly, boom, I’m totally spiraling for another two. It’s maddening. I can't tell if I'm unconsciously dragging myself down into a dark hole, or if I'm somehow accidentally pulling myself back up into a good state... it's just this endless, dizzying cycle.
And honestly? Some days are even more erratic than others—I'll be doing okay for two hours, then crashing for two, then catching a break for one... it just goes on and on forever.

I mean, my brain chemistry is clearly a total mess, but at the end of the day, I’m still a person—I haven't lost myself entirely—and I think holding onto that is what matters most.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3438 ·
It’s one thing to deal with things that aren't actually there, 🧐

But honestly, what's really eating at me right now are these "negative symptoms."
The house is clean, dinner is made, and I’ve even managed to squeeze in a little workout this afternoon, yet I still feel like I'm failing. My psychiatrist actually sat me down and told me that just hitting the baseline isn't enough; I need to aim much higher.
Specifically, she pointed out that simply being free from hallucinations isn't the finish line.

(Schizophrenia is often categorized by its positive and negative (or deficit) symptoms.[17] Positive symptoms involve experiences that most people don't encounter under normal circumstances but are present in those living with schizophrenia. These can manifest as delusions, disorganized thinking or speech, and various sensory hallucinations—auditory, visual, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory—which are generally viewed as hallmarks of psychosis.[18] Hallucinations are frequently tied to the specific themes of a person's delusions.[19] Fortunately, positive symptoms usually respond quite well to medication.[19]

Negative symptoms
represent a deficit in normal emotional responses or cognitive processes and tend to be more resistant to medication.[8] Common examples include a flattened or blunted affect, alogia (poverty of speech), anhedonia (the inability to feel pleasure), asociality (a lack of drive to form social connections), and avolition (a lack of motivation). Research suggests that negative symptoms contribute more to poor quality of life, functional disability, and the burden on caregivers than do positive symptoms.[20] Often, individuals with significant negative symptoms have struggled with adjustment even before the illness fully surfaced, and their response to pharmacological treatment is frequently limited.[8][21]
)

And as a person, I feel stuck in this limbo. How am I supposed to just go back to being my old self after everything? Sure, I'm getting older and that takes its toll, but I feel like I've managed to hold onto about 80% of my actual personality. I can live with that. ☕
On a side note, I've noticed that exercising helps immensely. It’s almost like I get a shot of those "positive symptoms"—well, more like a burst of mania—that actually manages to lift my mood for a bit. ☕
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3439 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:It’s one thing to deal with things that aren't actually there, 🧐

But honestly, what's really eating at me right now are these "negative symptoms."
The house is clean, dinner is made, and I’ve even managed to squeeze in a little workout this afternoon, yet I still feel like I'm failing. My psychiatrist actually sat me down and told me that just hitting the baseline isn't enough; I need to aim much higher.
Specifically, she pointed out that simply being free from hallucinations isn't the finish line.

(Schizophrenia is often categorized by its positive and negative (or deficit) symptoms.[17] Positive symptoms involve experiences that most people don't encounter under normal circumstances but are present in those living with schizophrenia. These can manifest as delusions, disorganized thinking or speech, and various sensory hallucinations—auditory, visual, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory—which are generally viewed as hallmarks of psychosis.[18] Hallucinations are frequently tied to the specific themes of a person's delusions.[19] Fortunately, positive symptoms usually respond quite well to medication.[19]

Negative symptoms
represent a deficit in normal emotional responses or cognitive processes and tend to be more resistant to medication.[8] Common examples include a flattened or blunted affect, alogia (poverty of speech), anhedonia (the inability to feel pleasure), asociality (a lack of drive to form social connections), and avolition (a lack of motivation). Research suggests that negative symptoms contribute more to poor quality of life, functional disability, and the burden on caregivers than do positive symptoms.[20] Often, individuals with significant negative symptoms have struggled with adjustment even before the illness fully surfaced, and their response to pharmacological treatment is frequently limited.[8][21]
)

And as a person, I feel stuck in this limbo. How am I supposed to just go back to being my old self after everything? Sure, I'm getting older and that takes its toll, but I feel like I've managed to hold onto about 80% of my actual personality. I can live with that. ☕
On a side note, I've noticed that exercising helps immensely. It’s almost like I get a shot of those "positive symptoms"—well, more like a burst of mania—that actually manages to lift my mood for a bit. ☕

Stop obsessing over the clinical symptoms of the disease and start focusing on the actual quality of your life.😉
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3440 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Stop obsessing over the clinical symptoms of the disease and start focusing on the actual quality of your life.😉

Aye aye, captain.😉

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpzONffFOjg 🤣☕

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