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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3781 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Finally—the guy actually figured it out. It only took him this long to realize that most people are just absolute idiots. 😍

I’d be shocked if I weren't so used to it.☕
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3782 ·
Larry Lewis said:I’d be shocked if I weren't so used to it.☕

It seems space and human stupidity are the only two truly infinite things in this universe. ☕

So, the divorce is finally settled 😍. And I still reign supreme. We reached an agreement, a mutual understanding if you will. Regardless of how it went down, I’m still the one in charge. Even though I tend to view the world through a somewhat detached, almost clinical lens—as if I’m perpetually observing from a distance—this actually hit me quite hard on an emotional level. ☕
But the dust has settled and everything is resolved. I still rule. 😍
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3783 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:It seems space and human stupidity are the only two truly infinite things in this universe. ☕

So, the divorce is finally settled 😍. And I still reign supreme. We reached an agreement, a mutual understanding if you will. Regardless of how it went down, I’m still the one in charge. Even though I tend to view the world through a somewhat detached, almost clinical lens—as if I’m perpetually observing from a distance—this actually hit me quite hard on an emotional level. ☕
But the dust has settled and everything is resolved. I still rule. 😍

That isn't being emotionless, man—that's just being battle-hardened. 😎
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3784 ·
David Vaughn75 said:That isn't being emotionless, man—that's just being battle-hardened. 😎

Perhaps.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3785 ·
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y7CpS0gtlk

What’s Taj’s take on psychiatry, electroshock therapy, and all that other stuff? 😬
I mean, yeah, obviously—everyone knows antipsychotics and similar meds are mind-altering. It feels like every time I take one, some little part of my actual self just shifts slightly. 🙂
Did he say that forced electroshock therapy isn't okay? Honestly, it sounds like that guy hasn't actually sat across from someone living with schizophrenia in his entire life. 😍

But then again, in certain individual cases, it actually does work. 🧐 😂☕
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3786 ·
Shock therapy is nothing more than a temporary band-aid for the symptoms
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3787 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Shock therapy is nothing more than a temporary band-aid for the symptoms

I can't speak for everyone else's experience, but if I'm being honest, it feels less like healing and more like a way to condition you into becoming a compliant patient who defers entirely to whatever the doctor decides; the symptoms don't actually vanish, which makes standard medication seem like a far more logical and effective route, though I realize my perspective might not apply to every single case.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3788 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:I can't speak for everyone else's experience, but if I'm being honest, it feels less like healing and more like a way to condition you into becoming a compliant patient who defers entirely to whatever the doctor decides; the symptoms don't actually vanish, which makes standard medication seem like a far more logical and effective route, though I realize my perspective might not apply to every single case.

In a weird way, that’s actually a good thing.

Because look, once a patient decides all these psychiatrists are total morons or that they're actively out to get them, you've pretty much lost the battle for recovery.
ruggedtinker9 ruggedtinker9 Member
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#3789 ·
David Vaughn75 said:In a weird way, that’s actually a good thing.

Because look, once a patient decides all these psychiatrists are total morons or that they're actively out to get them, you've pretty much lost the battle for recovery.

There is no such thing as a cure for schizophrenia. I might believe these professionals when they actually manage to heal someone, rather than merely masking the symptoms with medication.

http://youtu.be/o1AEbuRR4jw

p.s. I don't personally consider myself to have ever been ill, nor do I believe I possess some sort of disease. I simply possessed a different perception of reality. Since I am the only one who truly knows what I experienced, no one else can claim to understand. I have no desire to engage with this topic or this forum anymore, as it seems most people here have been completely brainwashed.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3790 ·
David Vaughn75 said:In a weird way, that’s actually a good thing.

Because look, once a patient decides all these psychiatrists are total morons or that they're actively out to get them, you've pretty much lost the battle for recovery.

Electroconvulsive therapy can be a legitimate tool in the shed, in its own way.
But what kind of "cure" are we really talking about here?
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#3791 ·
Oh, please, recovery...
As long as we can actually get through our daily grind without falling apart, that's what matters

Anyway, I’m heading out to the coast for this long weekend 👋

Enjoy yourselves 👋
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3792 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Oh, please, recovery...
As long as we can actually get through our daily grind without falling apart, that's what matters

Anyway, I’m heading out to the coast for this long weekend 👋

Enjoy yourselves 👋

Yeah, yeah, blah blah blah—we're all patients here, we actually know what we're talking about, you aren't the only one in the waiting room.🙄 🥳

Go catch a fish or something. 😉 ☕
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3793 ·
ruggedtinker9 said:There is no such thing as a cure for schizophrenia. I might believe these professionals when they actually manage to heal someone, rather than merely masking the symptoms with medication.

http://youtu.be/o1AEbuRR4jw

p.s. I don't personally consider myself to have ever been ill, nor do I believe I possess some sort of disease. I simply possessed a different perception of reality. Since I am the only one who truly knows what I experienced, no one else can claim to understand. I have no desire to engage with this topic or this forum anymore, as it seems most people here have been completely brainwashed.

And next they'll probably try to convince us that people living with schizophrenia have needs and desires just like anyone else. 😬
It seems like you're trying to get a conversation started, but the prompt cut off right at the beginning. If you were about to dive into a topic or share a thought, feel free to lay it out—I'm ready when you are. quote It’s funny how we tend to cling to the idea of "normal" as if it were some kind of universal constant, a steady baseline that everyone else is somehow successfully hitting while we’re all just stumbling around in the dark. We treat it like a destination or a standard of behavior that exists somewhere out there in the ether, waiting to be achieved through enough discipline or social conformity. In reality, what most people call normal is usually just a collection of shared anxieties and a mutual agreement to pretend that the chaos underneath everything isn't actually happening. It’s less of a fixed point and more of a moving target, shifting every time a new trend hits or a new societal expectation takes root. If you spend too much time trying to calibrate your life to meet that imaginary middle ground, you eventually realize you're just chasing a ghost that doesn't actually exist. 😍"Who am I?" (Quotes)
Sure, they’ll lock you up and throw a handful of pills at you, but don't expect any actual relief from that. That's where the "help" hits a dead end. Wow, he actually goes around believing that we’re all just fundamentally normal deep down? Please, give me a break. 🙂

So, this psychiatrist is actually trying to suggest that a tangible, physical issue could be the trigger for psychosis. No way. I mean, come on. We’re really going to act like psychosis isn't some profound, unexplainable mystery that just descends from the ether? It’s almost funny how they try to apply logic to something that clearly defies it. 🙄

ruggedtinker9 said:There is no such thing as a cure for schizophrenia. I might believe these professionals when they actually manage to heal someone, rather than merely masking the symptoms with medication.

http://youtu.be/o1AEbuRR4jw

p.s. I don't personally consider myself to have ever been ill, nor do I believe I possess some sort of disease. I simply possessed a different perception of reality. Since I am the only one who truly knows what I experienced, no one else can claim to understand. I have no desire to engage with this topic or this forum anymore, as it seems most people here have been completely brainwashed.

Look, you might not be dealing with a full-blown illness, but there’s clearly an underlying issue at play here. If there’s a glitch in the system, you can't just ignore it and hope it goes away; you actually have to step up and fix it.
Are you actually sane, though? I honestly can't tell.

If I may be so bold, most of the discussions here seem to spiral endlessly into a loop of shouting matches, pure aggression, and general madness, yet it feels like the vast majority of people actually participating have already moved past that stage of development.

ruggedtinker9 said:There is no such thing as a cure for schizophrenia. I might believe these professionals when they actually manage to heal someone, rather than merely masking the symptoms with medication.

http://youtu.be/o1AEbuRR4jw

p.s. I don't personally consider myself to have ever been ill, nor do I believe I possess some sort of disease. I simply possessed a different perception of reality. Since I am the only one who truly knows what I experienced, no one else can claim to understand. I have no desire to engage with this topic or this forum anymore, as it seems most people here have been completely brainwashed.

What kind of brainwashing are we talking about here? This topic is a massive, sprawling mess that covers everything under the sun. If someone is driven to the point of wanting to end their life, do you honestly think an antidepressant is going to act as some sort of magic cure? Of course not. But does switching from an SSRI to an SNRI fundamentally alter your very personality and how you perceive reality? Absolutely.
From the perspective of someone who believes that if you actually turned Jesus into a mobile app, you’d end up creating an atheist.😲😲)
If you’re lying there staring at the ceiling because sleep refuses to show up, is popping a sleeping pill the move? Sure, if you want. But let’s be honest—is the insomnia actually the issue, or is it just a symptom of some deeper, underlying mess that a little white pill isn't designed to fix? Probably the latter. And if things have spiraled to the point where you feel like you're losing your grip on reality, is reaching for an anti-anxiety med really the ultimate solution? Maybe. Did it actually solve the root cause of the chaos? Not exactly. Is there a better way to handle it right now? Honestly, I haven't found one yet.
Are we talking about those heavy-duty medications that essentially trade your long-term organ health and cognitive function for immediate relief? Sure, they can be. But isn't the whole point of navigating life just trying to help yourself as best you can and finding a way to live a decent existence within the hand you've been dealt? Absolutely.
Do people stop taking their medication because the side effects feel too heavy or just plain unbearable? Absolutely.
Do some people take their meds religiously and feel fantastic? Sure. Is chemical imbalance the absolute, one-size-fits-all explanation for everything? Not quite. Is every single ailment rooted in a chemical imbalance? You could argue yes... and so on and so forth.

Some folks embrace their pills and live wonderful lives alongside them. Others find themselves questioning whether the treatment is actually doing anything at all. Some deal with constant side effects, while others don't feel a thing.
As for this whole discussion on the forum, I’ve been dragged through the mud from every angle—people attacking the topic, the way it was phrased, and honestly, who knows what else is coming next😍. Sure, I got one compliment along the way. And then there’s the mountain of comments telling me to "go smoke a joint" or acting like it's some big joke; they're lunatics. Look, I’m plenty crazy myself whenever I’ve had a drink or smoked up, haha. 🙄

And yeah, I remember seeing this one doctor on a major network news program about ten years ago. (Do I really need to name the physician, the show, the host, and the exact airtime?) She basically claimed that people with schizophrenia would never organize a protest or even bother to rebel. (As if they aren't just regular people...)
There. Do your best to make a human being out of someone. 😍☕
Sean Smith39 Sean Smith39 Newcomer
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#3794 ·
What are the actual symptoms of schizophrenia? Who usually gets hit by this—and is it more common in men or women? Thanks in advance for any info.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3795 ·
Sean Smith39 said:What are the actual symptoms of schizophrenia? Who usually gets hit by this—and is it more common in men or women? Thanks in advance for any info.

Ever heard of Google? Honestly, just dig through the archives and read the previous posts.🙂
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3796 ·
ruggedtinker9 said:There is no such thing as a cure for schizophrenia. I might believe these professionals when they actually manage to heal someone, rather than merely masking the symptoms with medication.

http://youtu.be/o1AEbuRR4jw

p.s. I don't personally consider myself to have ever been ill, nor do I believe I possess some sort of disease. I simply possessed a different perception of reality. Since I am the only one who truly knows what I experienced, no one else can claim to understand. I have no desire to engage with this topic or this forum anymore, as it seems most people here have been completely brainwashed.

Only you truly know your own mind, and believe me, nobody is ever going to fully understand you—unless, if you're incredibly lucky, someone manages to love you regardless.

As for the forum and the "brainwashed" crowd, I'll tell you this: just like everywhere else on the internet, everyone here is just looking for something to consume.
Noah Garcia4 Noah Garcia4 Regular
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#3797 ·
Larry Lewis said:Only you truly know your own mind, and believe me, nobody is ever going to fully understand you—unless, if you're incredibly lucky, someone manages to love you regardless.

As for the forum and the "brainwashed" crowd, I'll tell you this: just like everywhere else on the internet, everyone here is just looking for something to consume.

Are you suggesting that schizophrenics are specifically difficult to comprehend, or are you making a broader, more cynical observation about the human race in general?
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#3798 ·
Sean Smith39 said:What are the actual symptoms of schizophrenia? Who usually gets hit by this—and is it more common in men or women? Thanks in advance for any info.

If you head over to the politics section, you'll find endless threads about "same-sex marriage and similar topics"—you could pull enough material from there to build your own definition if you wanted to. Honestly, you could probably compile your own little statistics based on half the users on this forum alone.🙂
Sean Smith39 Sean Smith39 Newcomer
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#3799 ·
Larry Lewis said:Ever heard of Google? Honestly, just dig through the archives and read the previous posts.🙂

Look, I don't have an issue with reading—I actually love it—but I wanted to hear from you guys about what specific symptoms we're actually talking about here. 🙂 You can find all sorts of definitions online—honestly, I’d almost prefer an answer from someone who’s completely lost their grip on reality—if that’s even possible. I'm new here, so I'm looking to meet as many people as I can. 🙂 .
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#3800 ·
Noah Garcia4 said:Are you suggesting that schizophrenics are specifically difficult to comprehend, or are you making a broader, more cynical observation about the human race in general?

The whole species, I suppose.🤷

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