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Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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joined Jan 2013
#4141 ·
Larry Lewis said:But let’s be real—we definitely hold the gold medal for the most prestigious mental health diagnosis out there.😍

Man, I feel like we’re just drifting through this thing, isn't it? Like, sometimes you look up and realize how massive everything is and how small we all are in the grand scheme of things. It’s a bit surreal when you really stop to think about it. 😁

Harold Anderson3 said:well, you're the best one 🙂

I'm probably only taking about a third of what you are in terms of antipsychotics, though the depression is absolutely crushing me. I'm on 150 mg of Effexor and it honestly doesn't feel like enough, which isn't exactly a low dose either. I'm constantly struggling with the negative symptoms of schizophrenia, even though I don't really deal with the positive ones. Maybe that's because they are so 🤣

Just like all the other crazy ones. 😍
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4142 ·
Donna Newman82 said:Hmm... so you’re saying you function normally while on medication? What does it feel like when you aren't taking them—when the hallucinations start kicking in and all that? Do you realize at that point that what's happening isn't real? I'm trying to wrap my head around what my mother is going through. She's convinced she's perfectly fine and just happens to have telepathy, allowing her to communicate with people from another dimension who can also read minds... which is one thing, but once the paranoia sets in, things get really freaky. That's when she starts talking to her "team" in her head about everything—her life, our lives, history, politics, even sensitive political topics. She spends hours sketching and scribbling in notebooks; seeing her like that actually reminds me a bit of Da Vinci working on his complex diagrams...

The illness itself—and the medication, too—makes functioning such an uphill battle because schizophrenia rarely travels alone; you've got depression, OCD, and all sorts of other baggage tagging along. So, even when you aren't in the middle of a full-blown psychotic break, life can still be incredibly difficult.
Donna Newman82 Donna Newman82 Member
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#4143 ·
Larry Lewis said:The illness itself—and the medication, too—makes functioning such an uphill battle because schizophrenia rarely travels alone; you've got depression, OCD, and all sorts of other baggage tagging along. So, even when you aren't in the middle of a full-blown psychotic break, life can still be incredibly difficult.

Man, this is tough... there’s really no easy way to handle this, is there? She’s currently on medical leave, which lasts for another week. She seems convinced she'll be able to head back to work, but I honestly wonder if she can—or if we even should explain to her just how bad things actually are. During a conversation the other day, she casually mentioned that she doesn't have any genetic predisposition for mental health issues like, say, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia. That gave me the impression she's actually been thinking about it... but she just won't admit it.
Donna Newman82 Donna Newman82 Member
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#4144 ·
Larry Lewis said:Don't go spiraling into unnecessary anxiety over this—honestly. I have a genetic predisposition for schizophrenia, yet my younger sister is completely clear, and neither my mom nor my dad shows any signs at all... looks like I hit the jackpot, didn't I?🙂

Though, if God were to ask me who should carry the family burden of this condition, I’d tell Him to just let me take it. I’ve already adjusted to the chaos of it all, and frankly, it's a weight I'm used to carrying.

A friend of mine suggested that I should say an entire generation is being skipped over. What do you all think about that? O.o
Eric Mitchell55 Eric Mitchell55 Active Member
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#4145 ·
Donna Newman82 said:A friend of mine suggested that I should say an entire generation is being skipped over. What do you all think about that? O.o

I’ve heard that too, but honestly, in my experience, things don't always play out quite like that.
Take Diego, for instance. Both he and his mom have Shiz. 🤷
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4146 ·
Donna Newman82 said:A friend of mine suggested that I should say an entire generation is being skipped over. What do you all think about that? O.o

Solomon, please, let's move past the old wives' tales and neighborhood gossip. Even science doesn't have all the answers yet. Schizophrenia doesn't necessarily have to come from a parent who has it; it can appear in someone where it hasn't been seen in the family for generations. It isn't just about genetics; there are many different factors at play. Honestly, it’s complicated, and it might not be worth stressing yourself out over, IMO.

Focus instead on supporting your mother in a practical way. If she's experiencing psychosis, then she isn't receiving the right treatment. They told you she was just anxious, but therapy for anxiety is nothing like therapy for psychosis. Until she gets the correct treatment, she won't get better—in fact, things could actually worsen, and it's important you realize that so you don't waste energy. She won't understand if you tell her she's ill, because that's the nature of psychosis; the person loses touch with reality and can't see it any other way until the medication starts working. The right medication...

She needs to see a doctor again (specifically a psychiatrist, not just a general practitioner), and whoever goes with her should provide the medical history. That's standard practice here.

You were telling people they shouldn't try to force others into mental hospitals, yet now you've diagnosed your own mother with sch and are fixated on it. Where is the logic in that? 🤷
Not every psychotic episode means schizophrenia. Psychosis can occur within several different disorders, and as for your mother, she could experience one single episode and never deal with it again.
Harold Anderson3 Harold Anderson3 Regular
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#4147 ·
Donna Newman82 said:A friend of mine suggested that I should say an entire generation is being skipped over. What do you all think about that? O.o

Science doesn't always provide simple, black-and-white answers, but we can look at the statistics. There is a significantly higher probability of developing schizophrenia if one of your parents has it—roughly 10%—compared to if it were a grandparent. If both grandparents are affected, the math changes quite a bit. Similarly, if both parents have it, the risk jumps up to about 50%. However, the most telling evidence regarding external factors comes from the study of identical twins; even though they share the exact same genetic blueprint, if one twin develops the condition, the chance for the other is "only" about 50%.

I'm essentially echoing what Meryl Streep told you. Right now, the most important thing is for you and your sister to support your mom, rather than getting lost in the anxiety of hereditary patterns.
From what I can gather, your mother isn't showing aggressive behavior, so it might be best if all three of you schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist as soon as possible to talk things through. It would give you a safe space to process your own fears, too.

In my own experience, both my mother and I deal with this condition, but that’s really just a coincidence. Two years before my own diagnosis, I was treating depression and seeing several different therapists and psychiatrists, yet not a single one of them suggested that schizophrenia might be on the horizon. As it turned out, that depression was actually the precursor to the schizophrenia, but there was absolutely no way to know that at the time.
Donna Newman82 Donna Newman82 Member
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#4148 ·
Michelle Evans said:Solomon, please, let's move past the old wives' tales and neighborhood gossip. Even science doesn't have all the answers yet. Schizophrenia doesn't necessarily have to come from a parent who has it; it can appear in someone where it hasn't been seen in the family for generations. It isn't just about genetics; there are many different factors at play. Honestly, it’s complicated, and it might not be worth stressing yourself out over, IMO.

Focus instead on supporting your mother in a practical way. If she's experiencing psychosis, then she isn't receiving the right treatment. They told you she was just anxious, but therapy for anxiety is nothing like therapy for psychosis. Until she gets the correct treatment, she won't get better—in fact, things could actually worsen, and it's important you realize that so you don't waste energy. She won't understand if you tell her she's ill, because that's the nature of psychosis; the person loses touch with reality and can't see it any other way until the medication starts working. The right medication...

She needs to see a doctor again (specifically a psychiatrist, not just a general practitioner), and whoever goes with her should provide the medical history. That's standard practice here.

You were telling people they shouldn't try to force others into mental hospitals, yet now you've diagnosed your own mother with sch and are fixated on it. Where is the logic in that? 🤷
Not every psychotic episode means schizophrenia. Psychosis can occur within several different disorders, and as for your mother, she could experience one single episode and never deal with it again.

I'll be spending this week looking after my mother. To be honest, my sister hasn't been much help; she refuses to admit that Mom isn't acting like herself. She insists there’s something else going on—some kind of negative energy or something, I can't quite put my finger on it. Anyway, Dad is going to sit down with her doctor and lay everything out plainly.

So, what does it matter if I’ve diagnosed her? It’s all pretty general anyway. To me, the specifics only matter because I need to get some kind of baseline understanding—honestly, I'm just trying to keep my head above water right now. I started connecting the dots to schizophrenia because so many of the symptoms seem to align perfectly.

Auditory hallucinations—specifically hearing voices—are among the most common symptoms of schizophrenia. These aren't just background noises; they are distinct voices that only the individual can hear. Often, these voices engage in their own conversations, comment on what the person is doing, offer unsolicited advice, or direct criticism toward them.I’ve actually found myself getting into heated arguments with them too, even resorting to some choice words once in a while. Voices don't just whisper; sometimes they give orders. This brings us to what clinicians call imperative hallucinations. They wouldn't even let her walk all the way to the edge of the yard yesterday. On top of that, they had the nerve to tell her she was being messy and needs to do more cleaning. -.-
Hallucinations aren't actually that common. When they do happen, people start seeing things that simply aren't there—anything from strange, flickering lights to more intense visions like monsters or demons. She claims she saw these dark silhouettes, though that doesn't necessarily mean anything was actually there. I know plenty of people who have experienced similar visual distortions or hallucinations. In her case, she’s convinced she saw and heard extraterrestrials arriving for us, even flying right over her house. I sometimes experience somatic hallucinations, which means I feel physical sensations that aren't actually triggered by any real stimulus. For instance, I’ll get this unsettling feeling like my internal organs are shifting around or even disintegrating inside me. Other times, it feels like an electric current is surging through my legs. I often find myself linking these sensations to darker thoughts—like the idea that some unseen force is physically attacking or destroying me. She’s connected it to all sorts of things—claiming people from all over the world are sending her love, or on the flip side, that someone is actively draining her energy. She even mentioned feeling these little "energy vampires" crawling around her legs, trying to suck the life out of her. Honestly, she wouldn't say who sent them... I haven't the slightest clue.
Delusional ideas are essentially false beliefs that lack any basis in reality. They aren't just simple mistakes; they are deep-seated misconceptions built on an irrational foundation. One defining characteristic of a delusion is that it remains stubbornly resistant to logic—you can't simply reason someone out of them. Furthermore, these beliefs usually clash directly with the individual's actual education and their cultural background here in America. When someone is struggling with this level of paranoia, they truly believe they’re being followed, plotted against, or even wiretapped. It reaches a point where they feel like people can read their minds, force unwanted thoughts upon them, or exert total control over their physical movements and emotions. They start believing that invisible forces are pulling the strings or that microchips have been implanted to manipulate them. There's also the tendency to believe they are actually someone else—usually a famous historical figure or a celebrity—or that they possess supernatural abilities. They might even think they're receiving coded messages through the TV, radio, or newspapers. I saw this firsthand recently. She was convinced someone was reading her mind and controlling her every move. At one point, she even tried to use a SIM card she found at work, believing it contained some kind of tracking device. About a week after this behavior started, she became convinced she had the power to heal negative energy just by waving her hands around her body. She claimed this "gift" was left to her by her spirit guide, who she believed had to leave because certain outside forces were destroying their connection. On top of all that, she kept talking about the love of her life, and she's convinced that songs are being used as secret messages sent to her—that people are actually manipulating her movements just to force her to play a specific song meant for her or someone else in our family. One specific type of delusion involves ideas of reference—this is when a patient becomes convinced that other people's actions are directed specifically at them, or that random events and strangers hold some strange, often negative, significance tailored just for them.(For instance, she once claimed that a city bus suddenly swerved toward certain buildings before turning sharply, interpreting the maneuver as a direct warning meant only for her. She insisted everyone on the bus looked bewildered and that even the driver seemed confused by his own driving... then there was the time she pulled into what she called a "positive spot" in a parking lot, claiming voices in her head compelled a driver to charge straight at her and that specific location, though she managed to dodge him. To her, even the driver appeared disoriented, as if he didn't understand why he had driven that way.) It’s similar to how someone might believe that people on a TV show or a radio broadcast are actually talking about them.

And honestly, how can I not suspect schizophrenia? Maybe it's something similar to... well, that time she was thrashing around on the floor like something out of a horror movie. She couldn't even speak back then; she just completely blanked out. The next day, she started falling into these trance-like states where her eyes would roll or squint, her head would drop, and her hands would go numb. That was the hardest part for me to witness, and thankfully, it hasn't happened since, but she still has these paranoid outbursts. She talks to herself, scribbles constantly in notebooks, draws...
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4149 ·
Donna Newman82 said:If we're talking about genetics... does that mean schizophrenia is triggered by high levels of stress?

Look, stress and all the general crap life throws at you definitely bump up the odds of someone breaking, but it’s not a guarantee. You could be carrying a gene for psychosis your whole life and never experience a single episode because, hey, maybe your life is actually going smoothly for once.
Hmm... so you guys are basically functioning normally once you're on meds? What's it like when you aren't taking them—when the hallucinations start kicking in and all that? Are you even aware that what you're seeing isn't actually real?

The whole debate over what's "real" versus "unreal" isn't really the business of psychiatric science. I mean, seriously—try telling a devout Muslim that Muhammad didn't receive the Quran from an angel, or go tell some Christians that Jesus didn't walk on water or turn water into wine, or tell Buddhists that reincarnation is total bunk. It doesn't work like that.

The core issue with psychosis is that people experiencing it simply *cannot* stop obsessing over their delusions. They can't just pivot their focus or redirect their thoughts to something else—it’s physically impossible. That's why antipsychotics are actually about mental freedom. They give a patient the ability to finally occupy themselves with normal, everyday activities again, and honestly, it would be a massive win if they also started questioning the absolute nonsense their brain is feeding them.
Donna Newman82 Donna Newman82 Member
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#4150 ·
David Vaughn75 said:Look, stress and all the general crap life throws at you definitely bump up the odds of someone breaking, but it’s not a guarantee. You could be carrying a gene for psychosis your whole life and never experience a single episode because, hey, maybe your life is actually going smoothly for once.
Hmm... so you guys are basically functioning normally once you're on meds? What's it like when you aren't taking them—when the hallucinations start kicking in and all that? Are you even aware that what you're seeing isn't actually real?

The whole debate over what's "real" versus "unreal" isn't really the business of psychiatric science. I mean, seriously—try telling a devout Muslim that Muhammad didn't receive the Quran from an angel, or go tell some Christians that Jesus didn't walk on water or turn water into wine, or tell Buddhists that reincarnation is total bunk. It doesn't work like that.

The core issue with psychosis is that people experiencing it simply *cannot* stop obsessing over their delusions. They can't just pivot their focus or redirect their thoughts to something else—it’s physically impossible. That's why antipsychotics are actually about mental freedom. They give a patient the ability to finally occupy themselves with normal, everyday activities again, and honestly, it would be a massive win if they also started questioning the absolute nonsense their brain is feeding them.

I truly believe stress plays a part. She's been under constant pressure her whole life, and going through menopause right now definitely adds another heavy layer to it all...

How do you all deal with this, or how have you handled family members facing this? When they start with the delusions and paranoia, I understand intellectually that it's just her mind misfiring, but sometimes her comments genuinely shake me or leave me feeling confused and even a bit scared. Like yesterday, I was scrolling through YouTube and the video skipped ahead when I wasn't even touching the playlist. She gave me this intense look and asked, "Huh? Why do you think that happened?" Honestly, I didn't know how else to react besides using sarcasm—it's basically my defense mechanism. xD But in all seriousness, I found myself wondering if the video actually did skip on its own. I know it's not what she claims, but then again, what if it was? I feel like I should be the stable one, but instead, I end up spiraling right along with her.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4151 ·
Donna Newman82 said:I truly believe stress plays a part. She's been under constant pressure her whole life, and going through menopause right now definitely adds another heavy layer to it all...

How do you all deal with this, or how have you handled family members facing this? When they start with the delusions and paranoia, I understand intellectually that it's just her mind misfiring, but sometimes her comments genuinely shake me or leave me feeling confused and even a bit scared. Like yesterday, I was scrolling through YouTube and the video skipped ahead when I wasn't even touching the playlist. She gave me this intense look and asked, "Huh? Why do you think that happened?" Honestly, I didn't know how else to react besides using sarcasm—it's basically my defense mechanism. xD But in all seriousness, I found myself wondering if the video actually did skip on its own. I know it's not what she claims, but then again, what if it was? I feel like I should be the stable one, but instead, I end up spiraling right along with her.

That’s just how a psychotic brain works—it’s constantly manufacturing an explanation for every little thing that happens.

And honestly, we’re always going to be doing that, even when we're on meds. The whole point of treatment is really just learning to recognize when you're losing it—realizing that what you're thinking is just a psychotic episode, a hallucination, or plain old nonsense—so you can shake it off and just keep moving with your life.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4152 ·
David Vaughn75 said:That’s just how a psychotic brain works—it’s constantly manufacturing an explanation for every little thing that happens.

And honestly, we’re always going to be doing that, even when we're on meds. The whole point of treatment is really just learning to recognize when you're losing it—realizing that what you're thinking is just a psychotic episode, a hallucination, or plain old nonsense—so you can shake it off and just keep moving with your life.

For me, kicking the actual psychosis out of my system was the easy part—it was these lingering shadows of the illness that really started to wear me down.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4153 ·
Donna Newman82 said:I truly believe stress plays a part. She's been under constant pressure her whole life, and going through menopause right now definitely adds another heavy layer to it all...

How do you all deal with this, or how have you handled family members facing this? When they start with the delusions and paranoia, I understand intellectually that it's just her mind misfiring, but sometimes her comments genuinely shake me or leave me feeling confused and even a bit scared. Like yesterday, I was scrolling through YouTube and the video skipped ahead when I wasn't even touching the playlist. She gave me this intense look and asked, "Huh? Why do you think that happened?" Honestly, I didn't know how else to react besides using sarcasm—it's basically my defense mechanism. xD But in all seriousness, I found myself wondering if the video actually did skip on its own. I know it's not what she claims, but then again, what if it was? I feel like I should be the stable one, but instead, I end up spiraling right along with her.

It all really comes down to the specific circumstances at hand...
Ideally, you shouldn't encourage those ideas, but arguing with her just to prove she's wrong might hurt her feelings and damage the trust she clearly has in you. While that second option is less likely, you could easily find yourself in a position where you simply can't agree with her logic. It might be best to just change the subject before you both get caught up in her delusions...
Once her treatment plan is fine-tuned to match her specific needs and starts taking hold, there might be an opportunity to challenge her perceptions and ground her back in reality... though, of course, it really comes down to the individual case. You should feel free to touch base with her doctor regarding the best way to handle things...

It’s hard to truly grasp how she sees things... her connections are just incredible. To someone else, their perspective is just as real as yours is...
I’ve always made it a point to let people know that I respect their perspective, even if it differs from mine. I would never lie and pretend to see, hear, or smell something just to agree... but acknowledging how they perceive the world is usually enough to keep that trust intact.
Donna Newman82 said:I'll be spending this week looking after my mother. To be honest, my sister hasn't been much help; she refuses to admit that Mom isn't acting like herself. She insists there’s something else going on—some kind of negative energy or something, I can't quite put my finger on it. Anyway, Dad is going to sit down with her doctor and lay everything out plainly.

So, what does it matter if I’ve diagnosed her? It’s all pretty general anyway. To me, the specifics only matter because I need to get some kind of baseline understanding—honestly, I'm just trying to keep my head above water right now. I started connecting the dots to schizophrenia because so many of the symptoms seem to align perfectly.

Auditory hallucinations—specifically hearing voices—are among the most common symptoms of schizophrenia. These aren't just background noises; they are distinct voices that only the individual can hear. Often, these voices engage in their own conversations, comment on what the person is doing, offer unsolicited advice, or direct criticism toward them.I’ve actually found myself getting into heated arguments with them too, even resorting to some choice words once in a while. Voices don't just whisper; sometimes they give orders. This brings us to what clinicians call imperative hallucinations. They wouldn't even let her walk all the way to the edge of the yard yesterday. On top of that, they had the nerve to tell her she was being messy and needs to do more cleaning. -.-
Hallucinations aren't actually that common. When they do happen, people start seeing things that simply aren't there—anything from strange, flickering lights to more intense visions like monsters or demons. She claims she saw these dark silhouettes, though that doesn't necessarily mean anything was actually there. I know plenty of people who have experienced similar visual distortions or hallucinations. In her case, she’s convinced she saw and heard extraterrestrials arriving for us, even flying right over her house. I sometimes experience somatic hallucinations, which means I feel physical sensations that aren't actually triggered by any real stimulus. For instance, I’ll get this unsettling feeling like my internal organs are shifting around or even disintegrating inside me. Other times, it feels like an electric current is surging through my legs. I often find myself linking these sensations to darker thoughts—like the idea that some unseen force is physically attacking or destroying me. She’s connected it to all sorts of things—claiming people from all over the world are sending her love, or on the flip side, that someone is actively draining her energy. She even mentioned feeling these little "energy vampires" crawling around her legs, trying to suck the life out of her. Honestly, she wouldn't say who sent them... I haven't the slightest clue.
Delusional ideas are essentially false beliefs that lack any basis in reality. They aren't just simple mistakes; they are deep-seated misconceptions built on an irrational foundation. One defining characteristic of a delusion is that it remains stubbornly resistant to logic—you can't simply reason someone out of them. Furthermore, these beliefs usually clash directly with the individual's actual education and their cultural background here in America. When someone is struggling with this level of paranoia, they truly believe they’re being followed, plotted against, or even wiretapped. It reaches a point where they feel like people can read their minds, force unwanted thoughts upon them, or exert total control over their physical movements and emotions. They start believing that invisible forces are pulling the strings or that microchips have been implanted to manipulate them. There's also the tendency to believe they are actually someone else—usually a famous historical figure or a celebrity—or that they possess supernatural abilities. They might even think they're receiving coded messages through the TV, radio, or newspapers. I saw this firsthand recently. She was convinced someone was reading her mind and controlling her every move. At one point, she even tried to use a SIM card she found at work, believing it contained some kind of tracking device. About a week after this behavior started, she became convinced she had the power to heal negative energy just by waving her hands around her body. She claimed this "gift" was left to her by her spirit guide, who she believed had to leave because certain outside forces were destroying their connection. On top of all that, she kept talking about the love of her life, and she's convinced that songs are being used as secret messages sent to her—that people are actually manipulating her movements just to force her to play a specific song meant for her or someone else in our family. One specific type of delusion involves ideas of reference—this is when a patient becomes convinced that other people's actions are directed specifically at them, or that random events and strangers hold some strange, often negative, significance tailored just for them.(For instance, she once claimed that a city bus suddenly swerved toward certain buildings before turning sharply, interpreting the maneuver as a direct warning meant only for her. She insisted everyone on the bus looked bewildered and that even the driver seemed confused by his own driving... then there was the time she pulled into what she called a "positive spot" in a parking lot, claiming voices in her head compelled a driver to charge straight at her and that specific location, though she managed to dodge him. To her, even the driver appeared disoriented, as if he didn't understand why he had driven that way.) It’s similar to how someone might believe that people on a TV show or a radio broadcast are actually talking about them.

And honestly, how can I not suspect schizophrenia? Maybe it's something similar to... well, that time she was thrashing around on the floor like something out of a horror movie. She couldn't even speak back then; she just completely blanked out. The next day, she started falling into these trance-like states where her eyes would roll or squint, her head would drop, and her hands would go numb. That was the hardest part for me to witness, and thankfully, it hasn't happened since, but she still has these paranoid outbursts. She talks to herself, scribbles constantly in notebooks, draws...

During an initial psychotic episode, clinicians typically don't jump straight to a schizophrenia diagnosis right away, even if the signs seem obvious... that's just how the practice goes. It’s only once a second episode occurs that they officially record it as schizophrenia...
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4154 ·
The one thing I just can’t wrap my head around regarding this girl's mother is why she hasn't snapped out of that psychotic state yet—because, in my experience, coming back to reality is actually the easiest part of the whole ordeal. It’s what happens afterward that really guts you... I’m talking about the crushing stigma, the way friends and acquaintances suddenly vanish from your life, and even doctors who look at you like you’re some sort of walking disaster zone just waiting to lose control. Then you’ve got the depression, the crippling anxiety, and all that other misery that follows once the dust settles.🤷
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4155 ·
Larry Lewis said:The one thing I just can’t wrap my head around regarding this girl's mother is why she hasn't snapped out of that psychotic state yet—because, in my experience, coming back to reality is actually the easiest part of the whole ordeal. It’s what happens afterward that really guts you... I’m talking about the crushing stigma, the way friends and acquaintances suddenly vanish from your life, and even doctors who look at you like you’re some sort of walking disaster zone just waiting to lose control. Then you’ve got the depression, the crippling anxiety, and all that other misery that follows once the dust settles.🤷

If a woman is truly experiencing psychosis but they're only treating her for anxiety and depression, she isn't going to snap out of it anytime soon, if ever.

You can see how it's explained here:
Taylor Swift said:......for now, the doctors and psychologists have diagnosed her with anxiety and depression along with a few other minor things, but she isn't exactly honest with them, so they don't get the full story... though I suspect there's more to it than just mental health issues. On one hand, I think it might be paranoid schizophrenia... because she had another paranoid episode the other day. My son is only two and can't even string a sentence together yet, but he was carrying his grandpa's phone, and she started screaming that we needed to take the phone away because she was going to call 911... plus all sorts of other nonsense. She seems somewhat normal again right now, but I know these outbursts will happen again... she was prescribed some medication that she's taking... so far, I don't see how it helps, other than helping her sleep through the night....
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4156 ·
Larry Lewis said:The one thing I just can’t wrap my head around regarding this girl's mother is why she hasn't snapped out of that psychotic state yet—because, in my experience, coming back to reality is actually the easiest part of the whole ordeal. It’s what happens afterward that really guts you... I’m talking about the crushing stigma, the way friends and acquaintances suddenly vanish from your life, and even doctors who look at you like you’re some sort of walking disaster zone just waiting to lose control. Then you’ve got the depression, the crippling anxiety, and all that other misery that follows once the dust settles.🤷

Look, let's be real—if you’re dealing with a psychotic break and it’s just a quick, short-lived episode, it's actually pretty easy to get back on track. It's not like you're stuck in some permanent fog forever; if it's brief, you can usually shake it off and get things sorted before it turns into a whole lifestyle. Of course, "easy" is a relative term when your brain is basically glitching out, but compared to the long-term stuff? Yeah, it's manageable.

Look, I’m telling you—if you just let something like this fester for years without actually doing anything about it, you're basically asking for trouble. You can try to play it cool and act like it doesn't bother you, but eventually, it’s gonna catch up to you. If you don't deal with it now, you're just setting yourself up to get absolutely wrecked later on. It's not worth the gamble, trust me.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4157 ·
I didn't get an immediate F20.0 diagnosis myself—they actually had me on antipsychotics right out of the gate—but I know plenty of people who are prescribed APs without ever experiencing a single moment of psychosis. Honestly, it makes no sense to me; if those doctors looking after her mother didn't catch a psychotic break, then they’re either blind or incompetent, because if it's happening, it should be obvious from a mile away.

On the flip side, I remember heading into a local psychiatric ward for an evaluation just before my own worst episode hit—and let me tell you, I was already deep in the throes of it by then. The doctor on duty looked at me and decided it was absolutely unthinkable that I owned a car while being unemployed; he actually had the nerve to tell the elderly folks there that they should sell their vehicles so I could somehow find work. It’s absurd—I was already spiraling at the time, so it really makes me wonder about the actual quality of education these medical professionals are receiving... that's just my two cents.🤷
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#4158 ·
Larry Lewis said:I didn't get an immediate F20.0 diagnosis myself—they actually had me on antipsychotics right out of the gate—but I know plenty of people who are prescribed APs without ever experiencing a single moment of psychosis. Honestly, it makes no sense to me; if those doctors looking after her mother didn't catch a psychotic break, then they’re either blind or incompetent, because if it's happening, it should be obvious from a mile away.

On the flip side, I remember heading into a local psychiatric ward for an evaluation just before my own worst episode hit—and let me tell you, I was already deep in the throes of it by then. The doctor on duty looked at me and decided it was absolutely unthinkable that I owned a car while being unemployed; he actually had the nerve to tell the elderly folks there that they should sell their vehicles so I could somehow find work. It’s absurd—I was already spiraling at the time, so it really makes me wonder about the actual quality of education these medical professionals are receiving... that's just my two cents.🤷

True, APs aren't just reserved for psychotic disorders.

As for how easily psychosis can be spotted, it really varies. I’ve seen cases where a doctor saw someone walk in alone, listened to their story, and sent them straight home. Because the patient didn't mention anything significant—nothing that made their family feel they needed medical help—they kept those details to themselves. It just wasn't important to them. 😁 Since nobody showed up with them to provide outside info, the conclusion was simply that they were a bit stressed, just like anyone else. Then, the next day, they were hospitalized for over a month. Turns out, they weren't just "a little stressed"... 🤷 😳
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4159 ·
Michelle Evans said:True, APs aren't just reserved for psychotic disorders.

As for how easily psychosis can be spotted, it really varies. I’ve seen cases where a doctor saw someone walk in alone, listened to their story, and sent them straight home. Because the patient didn't mention anything significant—nothing that made their family feel they needed medical help—they kept those details to themselves. It just wasn't important to them. 😁 Since nobody showed up with them to provide outside info, the conclusion was simply that they were a bit stressed, just like anyone else. Then, the next day, they were hospitalized for over a month. Turns out, they weren't just "a little stressed"... 🤷 😳

The crux of the matter is that some people can endure severe symptoms while masking them perfectly—even the intense ones—whereas others seem to lose their grip over the slightest hint of an issue.

I met a woman in the hospital once who had been working at a local pharmacy for six months while dealing with auditory hallucinations. Of course, after everything finally caught up with her, she ended up admitted, but she had endured so much suffering without ever showing a single outward sign.
Donna Newman82 Donna Newman82 Member
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#4160 ·
The old order from the psychic finally arrived on October 14th. I won't get into the specifics of how that went down. My dad is really struggling with it; honestly, it seems to be weighing heavily on him. I think the hardest part for him is feeling like his mother views him as the enemy, even if there’s some logic behind her attitude. He gets incredibly frustrated when she just won't listen to him. She’s still living in her own world—walking barefoot through the grass, throwing spoons into the yard because she got annoyed, tossing the blood pressure monitor in the trash... you never know what else she might do. Sometimes it makes me sad, sometimes it scares me, and occasionally, it’s actually just plain funny. She makes these incredibly cunning statements, almost acting as if the doctors haven't figured anything out yet. I've noticed she tends to slip into certain "roles" sometimes. Is it typical with schizophrenia for someone to feel like they can't move their arm, or believe they can't speak? That happens to her occasionally. Her recent interests are pretty wild, too; she's obsessed with local urban legends, spends all her time studying atlases, and goes on about things like the harp, frequencies, and whatnot. I suspect it’s just everything she’s ever read or heard bubbling up to the surface of her conscious mind all at once. Does that sound right? Oh, and the most fascinating part: the other day, she wrote something in Arabic. Just three letters that were supposedly someone's name. It's surreal, especially since she doesn't have any affinity for the Middle East or their alphabet. I don't know how to explain it, nezz, but it's as baffling as watching someone suddenly start speaking a language they've never studied.

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