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Schizophrenia - General Discussion

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Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4661 ·
restlesstiger49 said:There's definitely some truth to that.

Honestly, there is a massive amount of truth in that statement. Just look at the state of things—it's all just a relentless pursuit of profit and power. It’s exhausting. A human being is worth less than a single AA battery in this system. Our mental health facilities are overflowing with both the young and the old; you don't have to look far to see the fallout.
The "successful" people—those who actually played the game and won—they end up working themselves into an early grave.
Even the kids... you see six-year-olds lugging around these massive backpacks to schools where they're basically drilled like soldiers
with absolute nonsense, effectively stripping them of any actual childhood.
And all this madness? It just slides right past us—unnoticed, like a stray dog wandering the streets at 2 AM.
Meanwhile, the planet is choked with pollution, the climate is being dismantled... and one has to wonder, where exactly is this all heading?
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4662 ·
I’ll never quite get over the time I was chatting up this girl—just a casual conversation, mind you—and she tells me, with complete sincerity, that if I ever feel like I'm losing my grip on reality, I should just go ahead and have a heart-to-heart with Bill Gates... and then, predictably, she vanished into thin air without a trace.🙂
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#4663 ·
Larry Lewis said:Honestly, there is a massive amount of truth in that statement. Just look at the state of things—it's all just a relentless pursuit of profit and power. It’s exhausting. A human being is worth less than a single AA battery in this system. Our mental health facilities are overflowing with both the young and the old; you don't have to look far to see the fallout.
The "successful" people—those who actually played the game and won—they end up working themselves into an early grave.
Even the kids... you see six-year-olds lugging around these massive backpacks to schools where they're basically drilled like soldiers
with absolute nonsense, effectively stripping them of any actual childhood.
And all this madness? It just slides right past us—unnoticed, like a stray dog wandering the streets at 2 AM.
Meanwhile, the planet is choked with pollution, the climate is being dismantled... and one has to wonder, where exactly is this all heading?

Logically, I’d agree with what was said earlier about mental illness being tied to an awareness of your surroundings. Personally, I’d take it a step further and suggest that sometimes, after someone falls ill, that heightened sense of awareness finally kicks in (if it wasn't already there before).
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4664 ·
Laura Castillo6 said:Logically, I’d agree with what was said earlier about mental illness being tied to an awareness of your surroundings. Personally, I’d take it a step further and suggest that sometimes, after someone falls ill, that heightened sense of awareness finally kicks in (if it wasn't already there before).

Look, there are countless reasons why someone breaks, but if you ask me, highly sensitive individuals carry the heaviest burden when it comes to mental health issues.

My aunt struggles with schizophrenia, and I have this vivid, lingering memory from back in elementary school where I genuinely feared I was headed down that same dark path. For me, genetics definitely play a role—there's no denying that—but it isn't just about DNA. It was about being a kid, then a young man, who simply couldn't stomach the environment around me... the sheer stupidity of people, the blatant injustice that seems to be everywhere in this country.
Even during high school, I was apparently the most popular kid in my circle and my class—everyone thought I was doing fine—but internally, I was a total wreck, constantly questioning the very fabric of reality.

To put it bluntly: I believe you need a specific kind of personality profile—someone who suffers under the weight of external circumstances—for these illnesses to truly take hold.
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#4665 ·
I’ve got those genetic markers in my family tree too, but the thing is, once you get past that one specific person, there isn't really a direct line to any mental health struggles. In my view, genetics definitely plays a part, sure, but I honestly think environmental factors—like all those things we were just talking about—might actually carry more weight. My doctor (if I'm being honest, he's a good guy) gave me a pretty optimistic outlook on everything. It took me a little while to realize why he was so confident, though.

See, that specialist—a neuropsychiatrist—is constantly getting hammered with calls from people dealing with all sorts of unimaginable physical ailments that have nothing to do with brain chemistry or psychology.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4666 ·
Those of us living with schizophrenia tend to keep to ourselves—we stay in the shadows, mostly—but I find myself scrolling through these threads about the GDP and the economy, and honestly, those folks always have something to say, don't they? They’ve got an opinion on everything. We, on the other hand... well, we actually seem to have the self-awareness to know we're losing our grip on reality and that the world is a complete circus, so we just keep quiet.🙂 Besides, if you ask anyone else, they’ll tell you we’re the absolute craziest bunch of all.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4667 ·
Larry Lewis said:Those of us living with schizophrenia tend to keep to ourselves—we stay in the shadows, mostly—but I find myself scrolling through these threads about the GDP and the economy, and honestly, those folks always have something to say, don't they? They’ve got an opinion on everything. We, on the other hand... well, we actually seem to have the self-awareness to know we're losing our grip on reality and that the world is a complete circus, so we just keep quiet.🙂 Besides, if you ask anyone else, they’ll tell you we’re the absolute craziest bunch of all.

The difference is, we know we're a mess. These other guys? They're just... undefined. You can't even tell if they're actually crazy or just pretending to be normal.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4668 ·
David Vaughn75 said:The difference is, we know we're a mess. These other guys? They're just... undefined. You can't even tell if they're actually crazy or just pretending to be normal.

And those are exactly the worst kind—hovering somewhere between unstable and ordinary, leaving you completely guessing which way they'll swing... honestly, I'm crazy enough to be an honest man, and look where that gets me.
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#4669 ·
Do you think hyperactivity is more of a symptom or just who someone is at their core? To me, it feels like it’s becoming more about the individual these days. I used to have plenty of opinions on stuff like this, but if there's one thing that period of my life taught me, it's that sometimes silence is actually golden. Trying to convince someone else of your truth is usually a lost cause. Honestly, seeing debates on things like evolution versus creationism on forums like this just makes me chuckle—it reminds me of those times when people around me were convinced I was sick, even though I knew perfectly well that I wasn't.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#4670 ·
Larry Lewis said:Look, there are countless reasons why someone breaks, but if you ask me, highly sensitive individuals carry the heaviest burden when it comes to mental health issues.

My aunt struggles with schizophrenia, and I have this vivid, lingering memory from back in elementary school where I genuinely feared I was headed down that same dark path. For me, genetics definitely play a role—there's no denying that—but it isn't just about DNA. It was about being a kid, then a young man, who simply couldn't stomach the environment around me... the sheer stupidity of people, the blatant injustice that seems to be everywhere in this country.
Even during high school, I was apparently the most popular kid in my circle and my class—everyone thought I was doing fine—but internally, I was a total wreck, constantly questioning the very fabric of reality.

To put it bluntly: I believe you need a specific kind of personality profile—someone who suffers under the weight of external circumstances—for these illnesses to truly take hold.

That’s a clever way to put it. And honestly, it’s probably largely true.
David Vaughn75 said:The difference is, we know we're a mess. These other guys? They're just... undefined. You can't even tell if they're actually crazy or just pretending to be normal.

Well, maybe we're considered "crazy" simply because we're the ones acting normal.

I suppose I'm pushing the boundaries a bit now by bringing up BPD topics. 😂😂😂😂
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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#4671 ·
Honestly, where do these schizophrenics even hide? They all act perfectly fine—completely mundane, right?—but then you catch a glimpse of them on the subway and their eyes... they look just like starving wolves. It’s unsettling, really.🙂

You probably won't believe this, but I have to say thanks to the doctor who finally gave me this diagnosis.
Arthur Scott5 Arthur Scott5 Member
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#4672 ·
Hello. Some people tell me I’m not actually sick—that I’m just obsessed, or perhaps that some sort of demonic force has taken control of my soul. Others claim that illness is a fluid concept these days, and honestly, I can't even tell what's real anymore. I know for certain that my medications aren't doing much to help, nor have the spiritual retreats helped either; I’ve sought guidance from every possible preacher and counselor out there. But the voices... they are constant. There are hallucinations, dark thoughts... I truly don't know what to do. Yesterday, I saw him right there in my apartment. He was sitting directly across from me, performing surgery on a dog, implanting a microchip, and he told me, "You're next to do this." I was terrified and fled the apartment. I also experience strange tastes; sometimes I smell rotting carcasses—it happens quite frequently. And when I sleep, I wake up around 11:00 PM to see him operating while crows and black cats sit in a circle around him. He very often tells me to cut myself or beat my chest. Two days ago, I became so worked up that I literally couldn't breathe, and now my chest is covered in bruises. I am at a loss as to how to proceed or what steps to take next. Please, forgive me if I am becoming a burden to everyone on this forum, but I simply don't know who else to turn to. Everyone is afraid of me. My parents are in tears, and my psychiatrist seems completely out of ideas...
Robin Lopez2 Robin Lopez2 Active Member
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#4673 ·
Arthur Scott5 said:Hello. Some people tell me I’m not actually sick—that I’m just obsessed, or perhaps that some sort of demonic force has taken control of my soul. Others claim that illness is a fluid concept these days, and honestly, I can't even tell what's real anymore. I know for certain that my medications aren't doing much to help, nor have the spiritual retreats helped either; I’ve sought guidance from every possible preacher and counselor out there. But the voices... they are constant. There are hallucinations, dark thoughts... I truly don't know what to do. Yesterday, I saw him right there in my apartment. He was sitting directly across from me, performing surgery on a dog, implanting a microchip, and he told me, "You're next to do this." I was terrified and fled the apartment. I also experience strange tastes; sometimes I smell rotting carcasses—it happens quite frequently. And when I sleep, I wake up around 11:00 PM to see him operating while crows and black cats sit in a circle around him. He very often tells me to cut myself or beat my chest. Two days ago, I became so worked up that I literally couldn't breathe, and now my chest is covered in bruises. I am at a loss as to how to proceed or what steps to take next. Please, forgive me if I am becoming a burden to everyone on this forum, but I simply don't know who else to turn to. Everyone is afraid of me. My parents are in tears, and my psychiatrist seems completely out of ideas...

I can only suggest sticking to your medication. Forget about spiritual retreats; they might actually make things worse. That person telling you that you're possessed doesn't have your best interests at heart and is just talking nonsense. Only the meds will help you, nothing else. Put the religious stuff aside until your prescription stabilizes you, then you can worry about other things
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David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4674 ·
Robin Lopez2 said:I can only suggest sticking to your medication. Forget about spiritual retreats; they might actually make things worse. That person telling you that you're possessed doesn't have your best interests at heart and is just talking nonsense. Only the meds will help you, nothing else. Put the religious stuff aside until your prescription stabilizes you, then you can worry about other things
.

Now, look, spirituality can definitely help shape who you are as a person—it certainly did for me—which is pretty huge when you're dealing with psychotic episodes. But I totally agree with the sentiment that you've gotta stick to actual science first. Get through those primary symptoms using medical professionals, and once the dust settles, then go ahead and seek out that spiritual side of life if that's what you need
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#4675 ·
I honestly find it so strange how all these things can happen without it being classified as a psychosis. If it isn't that, then wouldn't we be looking at actual schizophrenia or... something else entirely?
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#4676 ·
Laura Castillo6 said:I honestly find it so strange how all these things can happen without it being classified as a psychosis. If it isn't that, then wouldn't we be looking at actual schizophrenia or... something else entirely?

I’m with you—tomo45 is definitely acting sus to me too.

Look, if you're actually hallucinating, you aren't exactly in a state to be tying your own shoelaces, let alone sitting there typing out coherent posts on a forum.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#4677 ·
If you lack any kind words or comfort to offer someone, then I implore you to simply leave them in peace. Is it not true that heightened paranoia is frequently a symptom of schizophrenia? (Such as, for instance, harboring an irrational suspicion that someone is merely feigning their condition)

How can we possibly know if he isn't experiencing a lucid interval—that fleeting moment when hallucinations subside or remain mere whispers—allowing him the clarity to participate in our forum discussions?
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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joined Sep 2015
#4678 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:If you lack any kind words or comfort to offer someone, then I implore you to simply leave them in peace. Is it not true that heightened paranoia is frequently a symptom of schizophrenia? (Such as, for instance, harboring an irrational suspicion that someone is merely feigning their condition)

How can we possibly know if he isn't experiencing a lucid interval—that fleeting moment when hallucinations subside or remain mere whispers—allowing him the clarity to participate in our forum discussions?

So what, is everyone who's a little skeptical suddenly schizophrenic? 🤷

And besides, schizophrenia isn't some TV drama where it just flickers on and off whenever it feels like it. 🙂
Eric Gray2 Eric Gray2 Regular
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#4679 ·
David Vaughn75 said:So what, is everyone who's a little skeptical suddenly schizophrenic? 🤷

And besides, schizophrenia isn't some TV drama where it just flickers on and off whenever it feels like it. 🙂

Look, schizophrenia is an actual diagnosis—it’s a condition you live with every single day. But honestly, if anyone should get that, it's you—that it isn't always a constant state. There are episodes (to put it lightly), there are "slumps," and then there are periods of remission. I really don't get why you're acting so surprised by that.
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#4680 ·
Eric Gray2 said:Look, schizophrenia is an actual diagnosis—it’s a condition you live with every single day. But honestly, if anyone should get that, it's you—that it isn't always a constant state. There are episodes (to put it lightly), there are "slumps," and then there are periods of remission. I really don't get why you're acting so surprised by that.

But that's exactly the point—when those glitches hit, you lose touch with reality and everything else entirely.

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