Posts by Terry Carter2

Edward Howard2 said:Quick question for the host here... 🤣

Don't you think the racers deserve to know there are people among them actually cheating in the championship?
And don't you think they have a right to know if a player like that is just going to be allowed to keep competing in this year's season?

In my book, cheating should be handled the way it was back in 2010—when everyone using multiple clones got disqualified from the current season and banned from next year's race. Instead, we're basically giving them an apology and an invitation to stay in the game. It sends such a terrible message... like, hey, go ahead and clone yourself. If you get caught, worst case scenario is they just delete the clone, but the original guy gets to keep racing like nothing happened. 🤣 You even get a "joker" card to make sure you don't miss a round... 🤣 then you just find another teammate (or just spawn a new clone and try to be more careful next time). 🤣

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about; take that up with the moderators! 😁

Just kidding!

Don't you think the competitors have a right to know there are people among them cheating in the championship?
Don't you think the competitors have a right to know that such a player will be allowed to continue playing in this year's championship?

In my view, cheating should be sanctioned much like it was back in 2010—by disqualifying all multiple clones from the current season and banning them from next year's competition. It shouldn't just result in an apology and an invitation to keep playing. Doing this sends a dangerous message: "Go ahead, clone yourself... and if you get caught, the worst that happens is your clone gets removed, while the original can keep competing as if nothing happened." 🤣 You even have a joker card to ensure you don't miss a round... 🤣 and then you just find another colleague (or simply create a new clone and be more careful next time). 🤣

The fundamental issue is that this specific situation isn't explicitly defined in the rulebook, so I have to rely on my own judgment.

The Commissioner is acting here as both the organizer and a moderator, so they are aware of the situation, but that doesn't mean they are obligated to act in a certain way. A tournament director isn't required to dig through the PZK, nor are the moderators obligated to submit reports regarding bans directly to the Commissioner.

A ban, in its essence, isn't necessarily permanent (as we've seen even with supposed permanent bans), and there is no guarantee that a competitor won't be reinstated by a higher authority before the deadline for the next forecast.

Every competitor in this championship is welcome, provided they respect the rules and are prepared to face the consequences if they violate them!

In my management system, I did not account for the withdrawal or expulsion of competitors from the championship!

Those are, in short, the reasons behind the decision to allow both banned competitors to continue in the championship, strictly following all existing rules!
If you or anyone else knows of any other clones in the championship, feel free to speak up!
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swifttiger75 said:Personally, I'd leave everything exactly as it is, maybe just add a 10-point bonus for correctly guessing the top three finishers.

First off, we’d actually need to reach a consensus on whether we should even be messing with the scoring system in the middle of the season!
Like I said before, we already held a vote on this matter, and the rules are staying exactly how they are right now.
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Edward Howard2 said:Of course you have to follow the site rules.
It doesn't matter if the owner isn't personally jumping in; they still have their staff (mods and admins) who handle everything...
Our forum competitions are hosted right here on the site, so they fall under the community guidelines and all the standard regulations that come with that...

But seriously, I'm asking the mods directly: where can I find the official registration and the permit number from the state authorities authorizing the Presvetli Cup prize giveaway?

I haven't a clue!
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ruggedhawk20 said:Look, I’ve gotta get this off my chest even if everyone hates me for it

Seriously, what kind of absolute genius came up with this points system??? I swear, I’ve never seen anything this brainless in my entire life

I’m dying to know—who was the bright spark behind this mess?

I can't say for certain, so I'll just say I don't know; you're more than welcome to go digging for answers yourself if you're so interested.
Whether it's stupid or not, it works fine for me, and you shouldn't think I'm an idiot just because we disagree. In fact, if you do think that, it says much more about your character than mine!

And frankly, your own suggestion isn't any better—try coming up with something actually substantial next time!
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Go ahead and throw out some more concrete, sensible suggestions. Once we have enough substance, I’ll put together a poll so we can vote and actually settle on a system that works for the majority!
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Terry Carter2 said:There it is, the issue is finally settled!
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As I mentioned earlier, we managed to resolve the issue for now through some emergency measures.

By the way, I have no intention of participating in any copying unless there are actual penalties involved.
Something along the lines of what Dorian is suggesting seems reasonable to me, though I honestly think five minor points is far too low. Therefore, I propose we try to reach an agreement based on a solution similar to that to clear up this uncertainty once and for all!
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redheron12 said:And why go about it this way? We could have actually had a discussion—especially since it adds more value to the competition—and honestly, there aren't any serious opponents who would resort to such blatant cheating anyway. But no, you just decided to play dictator, making and enforcing your own arbitrary rules. It’s essentially "I decided to cheat, so I’m going to keep cheating." If anyone tries to complain... well, I can already see things are going to get messy 🙂

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p.s. half the teams are basically just clones of their teammates anyway 🙂

The entire purpose of this thread is to debate rule adjustments, and that’s exactly how it should be handled now that the season is underway. There is no reason to stop discussing the disputed rule; if a fair solution is reached, I will accept it—and per the final clause of the regulations, you could even push it through against my will.

The amendments I've made to the rulebook were implemented solely to ensure we don't head into the next round of the championship with potential loopholes, effectively preventing any unnecessary bickering over ambiguities.
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There it is, the issue is finally settled!
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I’ve already made my point clear: strategic agreements and tactical maneuvering are all part of the game, provided they actually stay within the rules!
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The real question here is who you actually consider an unfair player! Right now, there are probably thirty of them scattered throughout the championship!
I honestly don't get why you think someone can only be labeled as "cheating" if their predictions were copied verbatim!
The rule is structured this way specifically so the commissioner isn't stuck playing detective, trying to cross-reference every single possible combination of copied entries. However, if someone catches on and calls it out, then the plagiarism rule kicks in!

In theory, maybe nobody will ever notice or bother complaining about how you write up your picks. So, I'm telling you: learn how to play the game and stay within the rules!
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Fine, go ahead and rewrite it then!
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redheron12 said:What’s even the point of having teams if teammates can't coordinate—or more importantly—develop a shared, cohesive strategy?

And what on earth are these "PDF rules" supposed to be? It feels like we're long overdue for a change in game modes. 🙂

If everyone would just coordinate their strategies and stick to the established rules of engagement, we wouldn't have half these problems. It’s simple: play within the framework, align your tactics, and everything would run smoothly.
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redheron12 said:That's a lot of blue text! Stop being so dramatic and just write normally. 🙂

Joe, why wasn't I included in your cup?

Regarding the championship—is it possible for members of the same team to submit the same prediction? It seems logical to me that they could; if there aren't any formal complaints, then there shouldn't be any issues with collusion.

It’s simply against the PDF rules!
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Alright, let's give it a shot. But I’m telling you right now, this scoring system of yours feels way too much like that accuracy trophy they’re only tallying up for the championship this year!
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ruggedhawk20 said:Because honestly, nobody cares who finishes 14th—and frankly, I care about Max, Chilton, and Charles about as much as someone cares about black dirt under their fingernails after a circular saw accident.

That's why we shouldn't waste any energy on Chilton and his crew. I'm all about the winners.

Me? Yes, it's all about me! Just try applying some actual logic to the rest of the field in this championship. We can't just draft up rules based on how many participants we have just to make sure everyone gets a participation trophy and stays happy!
You're acting like a toddler: "If things don't go my way, I'm going home, and you can all play by yourselves!"—and before you even leave, you kick the table over and smash the whole game to pieces!
On every other thread, you've acted like you're the smartest person in the room. So... you really have no excuse here!
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Great, I was already thinking that....!

But seriously, why don't you suggest a compromise regarding the championship points system? Something that actually accounts for the entire grid instead of just awarding points to specific finishing positions. I’m looking for a more creative proposal here! I know you can do better than what you've already put forward. I'm certain of it!
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ruggedhawk20 said:God help me! What kind of clone is this!? I’m the resurrection! :-)

Good grief! That is an even worse scenario if you actually think you’re just some clone of a user who got permanently banned.
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Hold on a second, are you actually telling me that you're someone's clone?
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I know it’s over, but I still can’t help feeling a massive sense of regret about it!
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Regarding Matthew Young35's scoring method, it might actually be the most fair approach if we look at it through the lens of what ruggedhawk20 is suggesting. When I calculate the results, I always stick to Matthew Young35's system because it’s officially part of the current regulations, so there's really no issue there.
The current system should be played strictly by the rules as they are defined, not some improvised version of them! What frustrates me most is that this debate is dragging on months late—it’s ridiculous that the participants didn't engage with this when it was actually happening.
That said, under the existing rules, anything can technically be changed mid-season, though I wouldn't recommend messing with the points system while the race is still running.
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