ruggedhawk20 said:I say we just set it up like this
If you nail first place, you get 25 points, second gets 18, third gets 15, and so on—12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1—basically standard F1 scoring plus an extra 2 points for pole and fastest lap.
Then you tally everything up and rank everyone using that same 25, 18, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4, 2, 1 scale.
AMEN!
It doesn't get any simpler than that.
And honestly, I have zero clue what this grouping thing is or who even came up with it. How can someone who guessed Vettel as the winner be winning, while you—who called the actual winner and someone else ten spots down—get nothing? Meanwhile, I call the winner and third place and don't even score? This system is absolute trash. Just terrible. I seriously don't get what they're even measuring. Probably just randomness. Whoever guesses more random stuff wins.
These are half-baked rules that bear zero resemblance to the actual championship; there is absolutely no reason to even compare them. It feels more like a "closest guess" trophy than a real league!
The more I read through these various proposals, the more I find myself favoring the current scoring system. The bottom line is that the participation (the predicting part) should adapt to the established rules (which, frankly, most people haven't even bothered to read, let alone understand), rather than trying to bend the rules to fit how people participate! 😁
1. Introducing qualifying sessions😁 Since we’ve got a massive crowd of players but aren't running a full tournament, what do you guys think about adding qualifying rounds before the race?😁 - Set the qualifying predictions 10 minutes before Free Practice 3 starts. - Let's set a cutoff, say 50%.😁 Anyone scoring less than 50% compared to the qualifying winner gets a DNF, which basically means they don't start the race.😁
If we go this route, we’d also need to shift the deadline for race predictions... - Race predictions would be due no later than 10 minutes before qualifying begins.
2. The scoring system... Then there's the points. We could stick to the current system for overall results, but tweak it so the top three get a different payout:
1st-3rd place gets 5 points. 4th-10th place gets 3 points. Everything else stays the same... But, if you nail the exact position: 1st - 25 points 2nd - 18 points 3rd - 15 points
Honestly, this looks pretty decent to me. Might actually be a fairer way to do things.🤔
Even as the moderator, I find the current setup overwhelming, especially now that our numbers have swelled so much!
2. A revised scoring system... Now, regarding the points: we could keep the existing system for general results, but modify it so the top three finishers are weighted differently:
Positions 1-3 earn 5 points Positions 4-10 earn 3 points Everything else remains as it is currently... However, for those who nail the exact position: 1st - 25 points 2nd - 18 points 3rd - 15 points
4th - 12 points 5th - 10 points 6th - 8 points 7th - 6 points 8th - 4 points 9th-10th - 3 points plus an extra bonus point.
To me, this actually looks like a solid system, and perhaps even a fairer one.🤔
This is certainly worth some serious discussion! 😁
stormybadger8 said:I didn't even film this myself🤣
Seems like a pretty decent fix, though... But I'm lost on the deadline for appeals. Is it before the next race starts, or what? I'm assuming they don't want people filing late protests long after the fact—it would be a nightmare trying to fix the results later on.
I intentionally didn't set a hard deadline so nobody could use it as an excuse to stall! Let's just say the window for appeals will be based on my own reasonable judgment regarding how long it takes to technically adjust the standings. Frankly, I'm hoping it doesn't even come to that! 😁
redheron12 said:What are the specific rules regarding direct quotes? Could someone please copy and paste a section from the bylaws here—I don't mean to be rude, but I'm a bit pressed for time right now and haven't had a chance to dig through them myself.
Rule 12 states that copying someone else's prediction is strictly prohibited. This is investigated and penalized only if a player files a formal complaint once the deadline for posting predictions on this thread has passed. Copying is defined as matching more than 75% of the drivers—including all groups (rounded up to the nearest whole number)—to the exact same positions as a previously posted prediction for that specific race (note that older predictions used as jokers do not count toward this total). If you are caught copying, your prediction will simply be invalidated. 😁
That specific slot was chosen as a middle ground, balancing the deadline right before the third practice session against having one universal time slot for every race throughout the entire season. 😁
William Bennett53 said:Just one small detail: I haven't seen anything in the rules that explicitly defines what constitutes pole position, so perhaps it would be wise to clarify this since we've already had an argument about it. Specifically, there are scenarios where the qualifying winner might be penalized, disqualified, or forced to start from the pit lane due to ignition issues instead of taking the front row. This dilemma could be clearly resolved by choosing one of two approaches: - Pole points are awarded to the driver who won Q3 on Saturday and sat at the top of the timing sheets, regardless of whether they were subsequently stripped of that position, or - Points are awarded to the driver who actually occupied the first grid slot at the start of Sunday's race, regardless of whether they were the fastest during qualifying.
The previous dispute over this matter ended with us siding with the second option. We can stick to that, or we can reconsider, but we should certainly state our intention explicitly.
stormybadger8 said:I don't really feel like reading through everything right now 😬 but first things first, fix the groups and the driver count😳
Since ESPN completely tanked on this one, you're looking at 22 drivers on the grid😉
I was trying my best to stay away from that specific section of the rulebook, but I clearly missed it! Anyway, we’ll settle this by shrinking the final group. 😁
8. If a competitor fails to submit a fresh prediction, or if they try to sneak one in on a Saturday at 3:01 AM after the deadline has already passed, the "Joker" rule kicks in automatically. Look, let’s be clear: players are required to submit a new prediction for every single race. However, to account for life getting in the way, everyone is granted three "Jokers" per season. These Jokers trigger automatically whenever someone misses a deadline, and in those instances, the player will simply be credited with whatever their last official prediction was. Once you've burned through all three "Jokers," the grace period is over. After that point, you won't earn any more points unless you actually bother to submit a new prediction to stay in the running. If a driver fails to submit a new prediction for two consecutive races, their teammate has the authority to kick them out of the team entirely. Unless that driver explicitly states otherwise, they’ll be forced to continue through the rest of the championship as an individual competitor.
9. Participants are required to submit their predictions using only the specific username they used to register for the competition, unless an administrator has modified it for administrative purposes. Furthermore, any participant facing a ban is strictly prohibited from participating in the round during which the ban is active. This rule applies to anyone whose ban lasts at least until the submission deadline for that particular round—unless, of course, they managed to get their new prediction in before the hammer dropped. If a prediction was submitted prior to the ban, it will be honored just like everyone else's. Additionally, if a banned participant holds an unused "joker prediction," and they fail to submit a standard entry for the round in question, that "joker prediction" will still be applied to their score, maintaining parity with the rest of the field.
10. Drivers are free to jump from one team to another whenever they please. However, let’s be clear about how this works: when a driver transfers, they don't take their former team's constructor points with them—only their individual points follow them to the new outfit. This rule applies equally to drivers who get dropped from a roster as well. From a logical standpoint, a team's standings only begin accumulating from the moment that specific entity is officially formed. Changing a team's name doesn't reset the scoreboard, though. Each organization is allowed two name changes during the season, but before the season even kicks off, they can swap names as many times as they want. It's basic accounting, really.
11. If you pick a driver in your prediction who doesn't actually show up on the official FIA results, don't expect to see any points added to your tally. It’s that simple. Furthermore, you won't receive points for any drivers missing from your list—it doesn't matter how much sense it makes or if you simply overlooked a specific person; if they aren't on your sheet, they don't count. The scoring is strictly tied to the specific positions you assign to each driver. If you make a typo or mess up the numbers, we are going to hold you to exactly what you wrote down; your ranking will be processed based on those erroneous positions, and if you skip certain spots, you lose out on those points entirely. Additionally, if you decide to list the same position or the same driver multiple times, that entire entry is voided—you get zero points for those duplicates. Finally, if you try to overstuff your list by naming more drivers than would normally start a race under standard conditions, you won't receive any extra points for those surplus entries. Any driver you fail to assign a specific position to will be treated as a DNF. On the other hand, if you submit a full ranking without including any position numbers at all, the system will treat it as a ranking where no DNFs occurred. Follow the rules, or prepare to lose points.
12. Let’s get one thing straight: copying someone else's prediction is strictly prohibited. We don't go hunting for copycats immediately; we only investigate and issue penalties if an affected player files a formal complaint once the deadline for posting predictions on this thread has passed. To be clear on what constitutes "copying": if you post a prediction where more than 75% of the drivers—across all categories, rounded up to the nearest whole number—match the exact positions of a previously posted prediction for that same race, you're flagged. Just a reminder that older predictions being used as jokers do not count toward this calculation. If you are caught copying, your prediction will simply be invalidated. No exceptions.
13. Competition standings are calculated based strictly on the results published by the FIA immediately following the race—whether that's via the live television broadcast or those first unofficial, uncorrected listings posted on the official website. Once those initial numbers are out, any subsequent corrections made by the FIA are essentially irrelevant to the tally. When it comes to determining driver retirements, we follow those same primary FIA bulletins. If the official website lists a driver under DNF, NC, or Ret, that is how they are recorded for the results. Any other designation simply doesn't count as a DNF. Furthermore, per FIA regulations, a driver is considered to have retired if they complete less than 90% of the race distance. And let's be clear: the total race distance is dictated entirely by the FIA, which retains the authority to set the number of laps through either standard procedure or an extraordinary ruling. Drivers who fail to make the grid during qualifying will only be recorded as a DNQ if they don't actually participate in the race. However, if they miss qualifying but the FIA grants them a special dispensation to compete, they won't be treated as a DNQ in any predictions. Instead, they'll be handled just like any other driver who qualified normally—meaning they have the full potential to finish in scoring positions or, conversely, end up with a DNF.
14. Should a controversial situation arise during the event that isn't explicitly covered by these specific regulations, the Race Director will step in to resolve it. They are expected to use common sense while strictly adhering to the fundamental principle of fair play. These rules go into effect once they are posted in the Championship's official rules and results section, and they may be amended via special updates only if it becomes absolutely necessary to ensure the competition functions properly.
15. The Race Director can be replaced at any point during the competition if a majority vote is cast by the competitors and a new director agrees to take the role. Similarly, disputed rules can be changed, but under no circumstances will any changes be applied retroactively.
1. The Formula 1 championship is an open competition where players and teams can sign up at any point throughout the entire season. - To be officially considered part of a team, a player must post a message explicitly stating which team they are joining. - You cannot join an existing team without getting the green light from at least one veteran player from that same team from last season. - Competition is held in duos; we track both individual standings and team rankings separately. - If you fail to register with a team, you won't be counted toward the team championship. - A participant is defined as anyone who registers for the competition and submits their prediction within the designated timeframe. Official results and standings will be released by the organizer, and the moderator will post them on the first page of this thread, at which point they are considered final. All predictions, registrations, and official entries must be made exclusively within this specific thread; any entries or predictions posted in other threads will be deemed invalid.
2. The championship works like this: before the deadline, a competitor posts their predicted finishing order for the entire grid, plus two extra picks: the driver starting from pole position and the driver who sets the fastest lap. You can submit your predictions as soon as the previous deadline passes, with the absolute cutoff being Saturday at 3:00 AM on race weekend; this deadline remains constant for every race in the season. You are allowed to edit your predictions or submit new ones an unlimited number of times until that deadline hits.
3. The scoring system is as follows: Primary points for each race follow the current F1 standard (25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1) for the top ten finishers based on secondary points earned during the race. Secondary points for each race are awarded using this breakdown: Group 1-3 – 5 points + 1 Group 4-10 – 3 points + 1 Group 11-16 – 2 points + 2 Group 17-24 – 1 point + 2 Group DNF – 3 points + 1 Group DNQ - 3 points Pole and Fastest Lap – 4 points + 2
4. Points are distributed according to the groups listed in Section 3. Bonus points for exact positions are split into two categories: Category 1: Positions 1-3, 4-10, and DNF – 1 point per exact position. Category 2: Positions 11-16, 17-24, and PP + FL – 2 points per exact position. Bonus points (2 points) for the PP + FL group are only awarded if the competitor correctly predicts both drivers in that group; in the results, these are recorded individually as 1 point per driver, effectively totaling two points for hitting both exact positions in that group. For the DNF group, the bonus point is awarded based on the correct sequence of retirements as reported by the FIA—for example, the first driver to retire should be listed last in the player's prediction, and so on.
5. The tie-breaking criteria for race standings are as follows: a) The player with more secondary points wins. b) In the event of a tie after step a), the player with more exact position hits wins. c) If there is still a tie after step b), the player with more bonus points wins. d) If tied after step c), the player with the higher sum of points from all successfully hit exact positions within their groups wins. e) If tied after step d), the player with more hits in the high-value point groups wins. f) If tied after step e), the player with the smallest total difference between the actual finishing order and their predicted order wins. In this case, all drivers are calculated based on the official FIA order versus the player's list. g) If tied after step f), the player who submitted their updated prediction earlier wins; if no update was sent, the player who sent their original prediction earliest wins. If one player fails to send an updated prediction entirely, their opponent wins by default.
6. The criteria for determining the overall individual standings are as follows: a) The driver with the highest number of primary points takes precedence. b) If there’s a tie after step a), the driver with more wins comes out on top. c) Should a tie persist after step b), we look to the driver with more secondary points. d) In the event of a tie following step c), the winner is determined by their head-to-head record. e) If they are still deadlocked after step d), we rank them based on the higher frequency of second-place finishes, then third-place, and so on.
6.1. The criteria for determining the final Constructors' Championship standings are as follows: a) The team with the most primary points ranks higher. b) If tied after step a), the team with more wins takes the lead. c) If tied after step b), the team with more secondary points is ranked higher. d) If tied after step c), the ranking is decided by which team secured more second-place finishes, followed by third-place, etc.
6.2. The criteria for determining the Accurate Position Trophy standings are: a) The player with the highest number of accurate positions wins. b) If there is a tie after step a), the player who participated in fewer laps is favored. c) In the event of a tie after step b), the player with the higher count of maximumly achieved positions in a single lap prevails. d) If tied after step c), the player with the higher count of maximumly achieved positions over two (then three, four, and so forth) laps takes it.
7. If the total number of competing teams changes during the season, only the size of the final group will be adjusted. For instance, instead of covering positions 18-24, the group might cover 18-22 or 18-26. Any shifts in scoring groups under this rule take effect automatically without prior notice the moment the FIA or a specific team officially announces they are entering or withdrawing from one or all Formula 1 races. This also applies if the decision is made before free practice and the team fails to show up for Friday's sessions. Note that this article—and any adjustments stemming from it—will not be triggered if a team or driver misses practice, qualifying, or the race due to other unforeseen circumstances, such as a shortage of spare parts or driver injuries.
Tyler Bennett5 said:Is the deadline for submitting predictions still set for Saturday at 3:00 AM?
That specific rule isn't changing, nor is anything regarding how we submit picks or calculate points. Any upcoming updates are purely administrative, mostly intended to streamline things for the people running the competition. 😁
We’re almost there! Get ready, but don't go rushing ahead just yet—I am currently finalizing the official rules for the Formula 1 2013 season. I realize the previous set was already voted on, but expect some cosmetic adjustments to be made regardless! 😁
On the left, it's a pushrod. When the wheel hits a bump and moves upward, the rod pushes (push) the damper assembly. On the right, it's also a pushrod. But when that wheel moves up, the rod actually pulls (pull) the damper assembly.
I don't think it gets any simpler than that. 😁
And the front suspension doesn't "attach" to the cockpit itself, but rather to the monocoque. The cockpit is just a part of the monocoque—basically, the opening where the driver sits.
Was Ferrari caught stealing another team's blueprints? Was Ferrari caught blatantly cheating?
And as for them celebrating or profiting from someone else's misfortune? Honestly, isn't that the case with every other team on the grid?
Jason Campbell70, look, your explanation was heading in the right direction, but you’ve definitely oversimplified things to a fault. It's like trying to explain the complexities of the US tax code by saying "you pay money to the government"—it technically touches on the subject, but it misses almost all the nuance required for a real understanding. 😁
The Formula 1 moderators have reached a decision regarding Jason Campbell70's return, and the outlook is looking positive! If the higher-ups can reach an agreement, Jason Campbell70 will be back on Formula 1! I’m trying to hold back from declaring total victory here, even though deep down, I’m truly hoping this is the case! Jason Campbell70, I sincerely hope we don't end up regretting this move! 😁
William Bennett53 said:Well, the public has spoken, and we shall proceed under the existing rules. 👍 I would like to propose a few adjustments. To be clear, I am not suggesting any changes to the scoring system itself; rather, I see this as a streamlining of our current regulations to address excessive complexity, ambiguity, and the various issues that have led to frequent disputes. These modifications are derived partly from my previous rule proposal and partly from entirely new ideas. Below, I have copied the full set of current regulations alongside my proposed amendments, where items I believe should be removed are marked in red, and my new (or revised) proposals are **bolded**. For those who may find it difficult to view the attached documents, I will list the most significant proposed changes here: - All predictions must be submitted by the scheduled start of Free Practice 3. - Anyone without a valid prediction (whether a new entry or an existing one) will not participate in that round, and no excuses regarding the failure to submit will be entertained. - In the event of a dispute, the Commissioner holds the final word. This means moderators should not be pulled into the fray of rule interpretation or dispute resolution. Players retain the right to change the Commissioner at any time, but there can be no retroactive overturning of decisions once the "appeals window" has closed.
1. The Formula 1 Championship is a competition featuring an unlimited number of participants, both individuals and teams, which remain open throughout the entire season. - To be considered a member of a team, a player must post a formal declaration stating which team they are representing. - Joining an existing team is not permitted without the consent of at least one returning member from that team's previous season. - Competition is conducted in pairs, with individual and team standings calculated separately. - Players who do not join a team do not participate in the team portion of the championship. - A participant is defined as a competitor who registers for the championship and submits their prediction within the designated timeframe. Official results and standings are published by the Commissioner, and the moderator will post them on the first page of this thread, at which point they are considered final. Competitors must submit their predictions, registrations, and other entries exclusively within this specific thread; any entries made in other threads will be deemed invalid.
1. The Championship is a sub-forum game involving predictions for Formula 1 race results. The number of participants is unlimited, and access is open to all interested forum members. Participation begins upon the submission of a prediction for a specific F1 season and concludes at the end of that F1 season or upon an explicit statement from the participant regarding their withdrawal. 2. The Championship is an individual pursuit, though it can function as a team game if two or more participants declare their intention to compete as a team within the main thread. Team participation commences upon the announcement of the partnership and ends when either player leaves the team or exits the competition. Team points are calculated by summing the individual championship points earned by team members during their period of joint participation. Should a member leave a team, their accumulated championship points remain with the team. Regarding team names, priority is given to the participant who first registers the name. If a name was used in previous championships, priority belongs to the player who has maintained uninterrupted membership with that team name for the longest duration. 3. Participants may only compete using one forum identity at any given time. Consequently, it is prohibited to have valid predictions active under more than one identity simultaneously.
4. The Championship is played by having the competitor post their predicted order of all drivers on the grid within the designated deadline, along with two additional picks: the pole position winner and the driver who achieves the fastest lap. Competitors may post their predictions immediately after the previous deadline closes, and no later than (Saturday at 3:00 AM, during the weekend leading up to the next race.The scheduled start time for the three free practice sessions has been set.That deadline applies to every single race throughout the season. Competitors are free to tweak their existing predictions or submit entirely new ones as many times as they like, provided they get everything finalized before that cutoff hits.
The scoring system is structured as follows: The primary points for each race are distributed according to the current F1 scoring system: 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1. These are awarded to the top ten finishers who have accumulated the highest number of secondary points during the race. The points system used for awarding standings at every race follows this structure: Groups 1 through 3 – 5 points plus 1 extra. Group 4-10 – 3 points + 1 bonus Group 11-16 – 2 points + 2 Group 17-24 – 1 point + 2 DNF Group – 3 points + 1 bonus DNQ Group - 3 points Pole position and fastest lap—that’s an extra four points plus two more.
Points are distributed according to the specific categories outlined in Section 3 of the Rulebook. Regarding additional points awarded for correct placements, these are divided into two distinct groups: Group 1: 1st–3rd, 4th–10th, and DNF – 1 point awarded for each finishing position. Group 2: 11-16, 17-24, PP+FL – 2 points awarded for pole position. Regarding the extra points (2 total) for the PP+FL group: these are only awarded if a participant correctly identifies both drivers within that group. In the standings, this will be recorded as one point per driver, effectively granting one correct finishing position for each, totaling two points for the group. As for the DNF group, an extra point is awarded based on the specific order of retirements as officially released by the FIA. To claim this, a participant would need to list the drivers in reverse order—for example, the first driver to drop out should be listed last in their prediction, and so on.
The criteria for determining the race rankings are as follows: Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior driver is the one who manages to accumulate a higher number of secondary points? In the event that we end up with a tie following step A, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more pole position trophies. In the event that we see a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the player who secured a higher number of additional points. In the event that we see a tie following step C, the tiebreaker will be determined by the player who holds the higher cumulative point total from all successfully predicted pole positions within their respective groups. In the event of a tie following step D, the deciding factor should be the player who secured more victories within the higher-stakes groups. f) In the event of a tie following step e), the tiebreaker will favor the driver with the lower sum when calculating the differences between their actual finishing position and their predicted position in the overall standings. Should this occur, all drivers will be evaluated based on the official order established by the FIA and the competitors. In the event of a tie following step f), the advantage goes to the player who submitted their updated Joker prediction first. If neither party has submitted a new prediction, the edge goes to whoever turned in their original one earliest. Furthermore, should one player fail to submit an updated prediction entirely, their opponent is automatically deemed the winner.
The criteria used to determine the final individual standings are as follows: Is it even worth debating? A driver who racks up more main championship points is clearly the superior competitor. In the event that we end up with a tie following the first criteria, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver with the higher number of wins? In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be the driver who holds the higher number of tie-breaking points. d) In the event of a tie following step c), the deciding factor should be the competitor who holds the advantage in their head-to-head matchup. In the event that we end up with a tie following step D, the deciding factor would be the driver with the higher number of other finishes—specifically, more second-place results, third-place results, and so on.
The criteria used to determine the final standings for the team championship are as follows: Is it not more logical to conclude that the superior team is simply the one that secures a higher number of primary points? In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it make more sense to favor the team with the higher number of wins? In the event that we end up with a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be whichever team holds the higher number of tie-breaker points. d) In the event that we see a tie following step c), the tiebreaker should favor the team with the higher number of other placements—specifically looking at second-place finishes, then third-place finishes, and so on.
August 2nd. Criteria for determining the overall Pole position trophy standings: Is it even worth debating? A driver who consistently secures more pole positions is clearly the superior competitor. In the event that we end up with a tie following the first scenario, wouldn't it be more logical to favor the driver who participated in fewer races? In the event that we reach a tie following step B, the deciding factor will be determined by which player achieved a higher number of maximumly hit positions within a single round across any of the competitions. d) In the event of a tie following step c), the edge goes to the player who achieved a higher cumulative sum of exact finishing positions throughout the Formula 1 Championship.
(I believe this section should simply be removed. If the Pole position trophy is to continue being awarded, it warrants its own specific set of regulations and a dedicated thread outside of the main championship, given that it now encompasses positions from the tournament as well.)
9. Should an additional team join the Formula 1 Championship either before or during the season, increasing the total driver count to 26, the final two groups will be adjusted to 11-17 and 18-26. Conversely, if a team exits Formula 1 before or during the season, reducing the driver count to 22, the final two groups will become 11-16 and 17-22. Any changes to scoring groups under this article take effect automatically without prior notice at the moment the FIA or a team officially announces their entry or withdrawal from one or all Formula 1 races. This also applies if the decision is announced before free practice and the team fails to appear for Friday's sessions. This article and its subsequent changes will not be triggered if a team or driver fails to appear for practice, qualifying, or the race due to other unforeseen circumstances (such as a shortage of spare parts, driver injuries, etc.).
9. If there is a change in the number of participating teams during the season, only the number of teams in the final group will be modified within the championship. For example, instead of the group covering positions 18-24, it would cover 18-22 or 18-26.
10. If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction, or submits it on Saturday at 03:01 or any other time after the specified deadline, the "Joker" prediction will be activated. To clarify, players are required to submit a new prediction for every race; however, they are granted 3 "Jokers" per season. These Jokers activate automatically for any race where a new prediction is not submitted, and the player's last official prediction will be credited for those races. Once all three "Jokers" have been utilized (it is understood that they have withdrawn from the competition, resulting in disqualification from every subsequent race) and no points will be calculated for them; in such a case, they must submit a new prediction if they wish to resume competing. If a competitor fails to submit a new prediction for two consecutive races, their teammate may choose to expel them from their team. (consequently, such a competitor joins the newly formed "Expelled" team, unless they state otherwise.)
I find myself agreeing with a good chunk of that! 😁
Alright, now that we've officially voted in a moderator and kept the existing rules intact, it’s high time we start laying down the groundwork. We need to define our parameters so everyone is actually prepared to dive into the Formula 1 2013 season. If you have any suggestions at all, lay them out on the table so we can see what kind of framework we can build here. 😁
Thanks for the vote of confidence... though my contract still hasn't been officially ratified.
Regarding the rules, the first thing that comes to mind is that I am absolutely against the championship director handling the Pole position trophy. I don't have an issue managing the championship's pole positions, but trying to mash that together with two separate tournaments where not everyone is participating doesn't make much sense to me—not to mention it’s a logistical headache. Basically, I will manage the championship's pole positions, and if anyone else wants to take charge of the Trophy, they are more than welcome to step up. 😁
I’ve gone ahead and stripped out all the uncounted votes, so here is the reality of the situation. To prevent everyone from wasting their breath debating a tie-breaker for a winner that shouldn't be in question, I am reverting back to the original ruleset. By doing this, those rules automatically become the official standard for next season. If you guys are on board with that, we can start fine-tuning the old framework. 😁
