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Jason Campbell70 said:You just got steamrolled by Jason Campbell70's logic. 😁
swifttiger75 said:I'm trying to get all the active PDF F1 members included. Just be patient...
@ Jason Campbell70, I’ve got a solid follow-up ready, just waiting on Way to make a call! 😉
steelmaker83 said:Give me a break, darkmarlin16. What kind of logic is it to list the times without specifying the zone? Now I have to sit here and manually convert everything to my local time...
redheron12 said:These poll questions are pretty pointless—you completely missed the mark on what this thread is actually about.
Maybe you should add an option like: Copying is fine, unless the people being copied decide to file a complaint. 😁
And from what I can see, the crowd is overwhelmingly voting to just "keep everything exactly as it was."
Are they referring to the rule change from a couple of days ago, or the original set of rules we started with? 😁
Edward Howard2 said:Look... and your whole thing about handing out penalties (not even debating if they're fair) on the championship thread is mixing administrative roles with moderating if that's how you see it... but honestly, talking about "what ifs" is pointless... what if you weren't a mod or whatever... the fact is, you *are* a mod, you caught the cheating, and instead of using your position to protect the integrity of the competition, you're making things complicated by validating Joker predictions for guys you know are just clones...
If you think a cheater can prove to the admins they aren't using clones, just set a 7-10 day window for them to do it. Don't publish the official results until that period is up. We can post provisional results for Malaysia with a note saying they might be adjusted due to certain reasons. It's much easier to wait ten days for the final standings than to deal with the fallout later when we realize clones were stealing points from people who actually earned them.
Also, it's useless to speculate about what would happen if this was discovered halfway through the season while someone is leading the pack... the reality is we caught it right at the start. This is actually a good thing—we caught it right after the first race, so we can nip it in the bud, disqualify the clones, adjust the results for Australia, and head into the second race with a clean slate.
I get that as the organizer, you have to deal with the headache of deleting and correcting everything... I used to run things too, so I know it's a grind... but I'd much rather redo the math five times than let someone make a fool out of me by running a competition filled with clones... cloning is the toughest kind of cheating there is, and I really don't think there should be any mercy or pity for anyone who chooses to go that route...
As for the copying issue... I voted against changing anything, not because the current rule is perfect, but because it doesn't *need* to change for the competition to work better. I feel the same way about changing the scoring system; there's zero justification for changing it mid-season if it's been working fine for three years, especially if the only reason to change it is because certain individuals had bad luck. 🤦 That whole mess reminds me so much of that first race back in 2009 when they were also only counting drivers in the exact positions...🤣
cosmicridge5 said:@Terry Carter2
I'm not sure if anyone actually put together the standings from the last race. I can't find the thread anywhere—does anyone even bother with that anymore this season? Everything is so cluttered now that I can barely navigate the forum without getting lost. 😁
I’m usually down to handle the podium graphics, but my computer is currently in the shop. If someone else could step up and whip up the tables for the last race and the upcoming one—maybe just drop the avatars into last year's podium template—that would be great. Does anyone actually handle the standings lately? Once my PC is back, I'll get started on some fresh podium designs. By the way, where did the results thread go? Or is everything just being dumped into this massive mess now? 😁
Edward Howard2 said:This is really just a matter of common sense rather than strict rulebook stuff. 🤣
Besides, there's actually a specific rule for these kinds of messy situations...
I really don't see how this is "fair competition" for those of us who aren't running multiple accounts...
How exactly do you think both of them can keep participating? 😁 It's not exactly right if the clone users just hang around for the next three races waiting to play their jokers, is it? 🤣