Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)
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Man, this whole country is just absolutely, fundamentally broken beyond repair. It’s a total disaster zone from top to bottom.
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Amanda Evans2 said:And here comes the moral police...
Just move to Saudi Arabia then, you narrow-minded zealot.
Charles Roberts33 said:In the heart of Washington, D.C., for the second night running, they’re playing those tracks by the ever-popular Fahrete Yahić Živojinović 😎
It’s hard to explain how I can never quite get over that narrow-minded, small-town mentality.
Honestly, I start to boil over like a pressure cooker whenever I dwell on this kind of thing. God help us. ☕
Matthew Young35 said:There’s no need to dodge the point.
Just admit you were wrong and say you're embarrassed.
...and let's move on.
Matthew Young35 said:You were the first one to suggest this:
"I'll only admit to a lawsuit if they show up to court with their mouths full of semen, and then we need a live DNA test performed right there on the spot."
It would be nice if you felt even a shred of embarrassment.
Matthew Young35 said:Do you truly believe this is humorous?
James Anderson5 said:I'm with you on wanting to see less religion in society rather than more...
The last great American king was defeated in battle, leading to occupation by foreign powers. Those conquerors were actually supported by the church, which also helped them annex certain coastal cities. Throughout the centuries, the church sided with almost every occupier of America, from the British to the Spanish and the French. Honestly, I think you might be the one missing the point...
It was interesting how Protestantism once attempted to take hold here, when much of the younger nobility wanted to convert and nearly succeeded, aiming for a version of independence under the oversight of the Ottoman Empire...
Based on what you said, it sounds like you haven't actually had that experience yet. Go find it, experience it yourself or with someone who knows how to guide you, and then come back and rewrite this. It'll be worth it...
Charles Roberts33 said:Are you actually trying to lead me astray? 😍Look, I could easily serve as your guide for some of the more famous global summits. I’ve scaled—and descended from—peaks far more inaccessible and up to three times higher than anything you'll find in the Rockies. And believe me, I spent the entire way cursing the idiot who talked me into it. Though, if you started picking fights over decimal points, I'd probably just have to toss you off a cliff. ☕.
What I was getting at in my last post is that this kind of mild trance—that feeling of merging with your surroundings and finally seeing yourself clearly—isn't something you can just schedule. You can't plan to reach that state by showing up at a specific place at a specific time like it's an appointment on your Google Calendar. That experience only feels authentic, only feels alive, when it catches you off guard. It has to be spontaneous. It happens in those sudden, unscripted moments when you're just catching your breath between the frantic, disjointed sprints of everyday life.
I was going to add more to that, but I’ll stop there. Better to quit while I'm ahead—I can see I'm starting to talk nonsense, and this group clearly prefers to keep things strictly business. 😬
James Anderson5 said:I'm with you on wanting to see less religion in society rather than more...
The last great American king was defeated in battle, leading to occupation by foreign powers. Those conquerors were actually supported by the church, which also helped them annex certain coastal cities. Throughout the centuries, the church sided with almost every occupier of America, from the British to the Spanish and the French. Honestly, I think you might be the one missing the point...
It was interesting how Protestantism once attempted to take hold here, when much of the younger nobility wanted to convert and nearly succeeded, aiming for a version of independence under the oversight of the Ottoman Empire...
Based on what you said, it sounds like you haven't actually had that experience yet. Go find it, experience it yourself or with someone who knows how to guide you, and then come back and rewrite this. It'll be worth it...
brightpilot6 said:I haven't made it through the entire thread yet, but I have to ask: has anyone here actually argued that communism could serve as a way to fulfill a person's spiritual needs? It’s honestly exhausting how quickly people jump to conclusions; the moment you dare to touch upon anything even remotely sacred, everyone immediately starts screaming "communism, communism" as if it's some sort of universal reflex. 🤣
If by that failed "alternative" path you mean societies lacking the decisive influence of institutional religions, perhaps we should ask the Scandinavians how they feel now that their social structures have essentially collapsed?
Does the Catholic Church truly hold life, family, and the home as its supreme values, or is that sentiment merely a convenient mask? It seems to me they only champion these principles when it serves their political agenda. When those ideals become inconvenient, the "supreme value" shifts overnight to whatever else is on the menu—be it war, nationalism, or rampant capitalism. They will offer a blessing to tanks if it means crushing certain families, and they’ll favor the sanctity of the home over the welfare of neglected children, provided those children aren't being raised in households that don't align with their specific tastes. Can we really trust a moral compass that turns a blind eye to corruption whenever it's being perpetrated by secular authorities they happen to find agreeable?
They only seem to care about raising children with actual values when they’ve already been given a free pass to subject them to systemic indoctrination. Is it really about family guidance if the groundwork was laid by institutional programming first?
And if you really want to get to the heart of the matter, what matters most is how, for decades now, people around here have consistently sided with those absolute crooks and moral degenerates—the very individuals who work tirelessly to undermine the sanctity of home and family in every way imaginable. It’s almost impressive, isn't it, how they manage to pull off the sheer audacity of selling us a narrative that they are actually the ones defending those very values? 🙏🙏
Noah Ross7 said:Why did they part ways so peacefully? Oh wait... they didn't, considering they had those neighbors from the South and that whole Natchertan plan to deal with.
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If by that failed "alternative" path you mean societies without the heavy influence of institutional religions, maybe we should ask the Scandinavians how they feel after their social structures collapsed?
The Church only advocates for life, family, and home as supreme values when it suits their political agenda. When it doesn't, the "supreme value" becomes something else entirely—war, the nation, capitalism, whatever gets them what they want.They'll bless tanks that ruin families if it serves the cause, they'll prefer state-run orphanages over letting kids grow up in homes that don't fit their mold, and they'll turn a blind eye to corruption if it's being pulled by secular authorities they're close to.
They only support family upbringing as a secondary priority, and even then, only if they've already been allowed to systematically indoctrinate the kids first.
And most importantly, for decades here, they've backed the exact same crooks and moral degenerates whose actions tear down the home and family in every possible way. All while somehow successfully selling the story that they are the ones defending those very values.
🙏🙏
brightpilot6 said:Aren Catholicism—at least in the version curated for the average layperson—and "spirituality," defined as that introspective journey of questioning one's own soul and our collective place in the cosmos, fundamentally at odds with one another? This tension seems to exist within almost every institutional religion, though it feels most acute in this particular one, given how intensely centralized and organized it truly is.
What kind of genuine "process" can actually exist, let alone be necessary, when every detail regarding your life and the universe has already been mapped out through rigid dogma and divine commandments?
One could certainly spend a lifetime agonizing over the logical inconsistencies baked into the doctrine—things like original sin, purgatory, the Holy Trinity, the glaring contradictions between the Old and New Testaments, or those various strange heresies that crop up. But is that really spirituality? To me, it looks more like a quasi-intellectual struggle with impossible puzzles; it’s a series of illogical acrobatics originally engineered for the political agendas of the era, which are now served up to modern believers as profound metaphysical truths that supposedly require deep study and intense immersion just to grasp.
On a side note, I have to hand it to the Catholic Church; it is a masterclass in utility for the ruling classes, providing a toolkit for just about any scenario. It serves dictators and democrats alike, extremists and traditionalists with equal efficacy. It’s a perfect blend, featuring the institution of confession as a sort of "cheat code" for an endless number of lives in a game where the ultimate prize is eternal life. Perhaps we should have seen that coming. It explains quite well why they’ve managed to endure for so long.
James Anderson5 said:In this passage, Samuel, one of the early leaders of Israel, calls for genocide against a neighboring group...
"The Lord Almighty says... 'Go now and strike Amalek, destroying everything they own. Show no mercy—man or woman, child or infant, even the livestock...' (1 Samuel 15:3)"
"Blessed is the one who pays you back for everything you did to us—the one who grabs your little ones and smashes them against the stones..." (Psalm 137:9)
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel." (1 Peter 2:18)
Some pretty practical tips for navigating daily life while keeping the Catholic Church in your heart... 😁
So, first you mentioned that one point, but this next part is more about the history of philosophy and science. It’s about Descartes, who basically argued that only humans, angels, and God possess consciousness. To him, everything else in creation was just a collection of mindless, unconscious robots—a sort of mechanistic view of the world blended with religion. Honestly, the guy sounds like a total psychopath... apparently, to prove his theories, he actually cut his wife's dog open while it was still alive and laughed while it screamed, thinking he was proving that the animal wasn't actually feeling pain, but was just reacting like an automaton...
Another similar figure was Bacon, who once famously wrote: "My only earthly wish is... to stretch the deplorably narrow limits of man's dominion over the universe to their promised bounds... [nature will be] bound into service, hounded in her wanderings and put on the rack and tortured for her secrets..."
I really believe we’re being guided toward a deeper connection with nature and its many wonders, learning how to work alongside it rather than just fighting against it... Modern technology isn't just nudging things along anymore; it actually has the strength to reshape and master the world around us...
Basically, science is built on its own specific philosophy and worldview. It’s nowhere near that idealized version we see where it's just a pure pursuit of truth or progress... Not to mention how it often lacks any real ethics, which apparently makes it okay to put millions of animals through useless testing or dissect them in school labs while we mess with the planet like this. And don't even get me started on the weapons industry and mass destruction, where at least half the science budget goes...
I'm on the same page as Byron regarding spirituality—it’s essential and part of who we are. That connection to nature is everything; the further we drift from it, the more unbalanced and unhappy we become. It feels like our modern lifestyle is designed to kill that spark within us, especially with a scientific philosophy that claims to have all the answers... though it'll soon try to invent them using an ideology built on Descartes and Bacon
You won't find that raw, primal spirituality in a Catholic Church, a mosque, or a synagogue. You might find it in the original teachings of Jesus, Buddha (who knows what their actual original messages were), Lao Tzu, or even shamans in ancient or remote cultures where "civilization" hasn't completely taken over yet
Ultimately, if anyone is feeling lost, they should just head out to the Rocky Mountains to a spot where there isn't a soul in sight. They'll realize pretty quickly what's actually missing from this version of the world we're being sold
Jessica Gonzalez said:Sorry friend, but that sounds more like a marketing department from a factory of fantasies to me. I guess I have to wonder why I would even buy into those stories through some middleman? Or why I'd bother buying them if I already know they aren't true. I don't buy Herbalife for that exact same reason.
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