Posts by Patrick Martin

Nathan Wells29 said:Look, I’m all for respecting everyone's opinion, but seriously... can someone please explain to me what actually makes Art the Clown such an incredible villain that you guys are treating him like some kind of god?
I mean, an immortal killer in a weird costume? Groundbreaking stuff right there...

For me, though, the whole vibe is how he just blends right in with people, totally unbothered. The guy uses that mask like a freaking joke, and we just fall into his trap like flies to honey.

Killer facial expressions, disgusting look, gross presence. Just the way he carries himself. Plus, he isn't even the most graceful creature ever, if you ask me, which makes him feel more 🤷

Raymond Anderson4 said:I just can't wrap my head around Art the Clown being some big metaphor for pure evil or whatever, because he feels way too human for that. Even back in the first movie, he had those specific movements, that walk, even that confused look he makes sometimes—it’s all too much like a real person for him to be some abstract concept of darkness.
That whole idea about him coming back to life at the end of the first flick? Totally felt pointless to me.

And then this stuff in the sequel? Man, that was just totally unhinged and way over the top... honestly, they might as well have thrown Harry Potter or Nicolas Cage into the mix at the rate they were going.

Look, personally, I don't mind it one bit. 🤷

I don't think losing that "human" element is gonna make the movies lose their edge. Those slow, creeping movements, the sheer dread, the visual carnage, that feeling of total hopelessness right before someone gets slaughtered—that’s exactly what fuels his monster persona. The longer he drags out those creepy scenes, the more the tension builds up inside you.

As for those supernatural twists at the end, I see them as a sort of upgrade. It's like the director is just letting loose and having a blast—because let's be real, the guy is clearly a massive gorehound, otherwise he wouldn't be the genius he is today—and he's just messing with our heads. Just classic movie tropes.

Besides, it would be way too easy if we could just get rid of him that simply. Clearly, we're gonna have to work a lot harder to stop him.

To me, that works. The director uses it in a smart way to wrap things up without stripping away the grit, no matter how bloody it looks. ☕

Edward Watson18 said:Look, if you can't handle seeing people get slaughtered on screen, then maybe just don't watch these movies... seriously. If all that gore and butchery gets under your skin, why even bother? Just skip it.

Look, here's the kicker: this movie isn't just some mindless slaughterfest like a bunch of people around here seem to want to label it.
Look, I don't see it as just some mindless slaughter. To me, a Maniac slaughters because it’s how they vent all that built-up frustration—it's their way of settling a score with something they've conjured up in their own twisted head. That's how I view it, honestly. It's not just random killing for the sake of it... it's deeper than that.

Look, when it comes to Art... there isn't some deep, psychological, "he's just a broken man" explanation. I'm done with that nonsense. There’s only one way to look at this: the guy is a straight-up demon. Period.

Call it whatever you want, really. It's just pure, unadulterated evil wrapped up in a human skin.

Maybe it’s just some kind of twisted reflection of our own deep-seated fears, you know? Like, we watch this stuff not because we actually want to be terrified, but because it puts a face on all that anxiety we carry around every day. It’s like looking into a dark mirror at everything we're already scared of in real life. 🤷

Maybe that whole thing is just some weird personification of those messy, hormonal teenage mental breakdowns you get when you're growing up. 🤷

Maybe it’s just a personification of the whole damn system, you know? Like, it's this giant, crushing weight designed specifically to suffocate anyone who's actually trying to make it—just young people and the working class getting squeezed dry by the machine.

Who knows? Honestly, who even knows anymore? 🤷

Ricko said:With the release of the second Terrifier installment, Art jumped straight into that elite tier where the legends live—the ones most icons will never even touch. We’re talking about the Holy Trinity here. It's tough to imagine another horror villain ever rising up to mess with their status. The sheer weight and impact they have isn't just for horror fans; it's massive for all of pop culture. Now, I'm not hating on Art or anyone else—they're all top-tier villains but like I said, there are different levels to this game.

Man, you missed the biggest point of all. Freddy isn't the ultimate heavy hitter just because of how he looks or his vibe; it's because of the mechanics behind him. He has that genius premise of operating within dreams and nightmares, playing on that primal fear of sleep itself.

That's where his real power lies. That's what actually gets under people's skin. It goes deeper. So, if you ask me, he's in a league of his own. Purely supernatural.

As for Art? He can hang with Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees, no question! And if you look at his whole way of doing things, there's almost this sense of him fighting against the system—it's definitely not a coincidence how he goes after those news reporters and scalps their faces.

nimblemarlin6 said:Are you seriously writing fan fiction here? Again?

Based on the "second one," I’d say this character and the chaos he starts is strictly for the fans—totally random, pure horror spectacle, exactly what gorehounds crave.
He exists in a world that's just "realistic" enough to serve as a backdrop for murder scenes, wears that suit because it looks cool, stalks people basically just because, appearing out of nowhere without any rhyme or reason (even Jason has more logic to his appearances), breaking the fourth wall, winking at the horror buffs...

It’s a movie made by fans, for fans.

I should probably hedge my bets since I haven't seen the first one, so I don't know if they show some kid who's basically a young Jeffrey Dahmer dealing with trauma, the roots of his issues, a rough childhood, why he's in normal clothes versus why he puts on that clown suit...

Man, forget the fan fiction stuff, it's about how I actually perceive the film.

That's like me saying the Earth is flat. It's so easy to just slap on some stupid label you picked up somewhere.

I can make my own guesses, seeing as his targets are mostly young girls.
And who said we're talking about a young guy? He might have been a kid once.

Slaughter, slaughter, slaughter... if I actually loved watching carnage, I would've gotten a job at a meatpacking plant.

mellowskipper said:Honestly, what you just laid out is pretty much the daily grind for your average teenager.
I mean, obviously not everyone ends up wandering around with a machete or an assault rifle, though let's be real, that happens way too often in the USA.>
Speaking of psychopaths, if we're talking movie icons, Hannibal Lecter is basically the gold standard in my book.
So, come on, tell me—is Art a total psycho or is there something else going on there?
Aliens are off the table.

It's actually pretty common for movies like this to serve as these super extreme, radical metaphors ☕

nimblemarlin6 said:Everyone's out here trying to dig up the "roots of Art's psychopathy," right? Like we can just pinpoint one moment where everything went south. It’s not that simple. You can't just look at a guy like Art and expect a neat little origin story like some Hollywood script. People want answers, they want a motive, but sometimes there isn't one—just pure, unadulterated chaos.🤣

Why does he even do what he does? Seriously, why?! What is his whole deal? What's the backstory there?🤣

What an absolute moron (I had to get this off my chest even if I end up getting banned for it). 😁 ),
It’s pretty obvious the guy just isn't accepted by anyone—even without the mask on. He can't get a girlfriend, everyone treats him like a punching bag, and the poor idiot doesn't even realize how creepy he actually is. So, he tries to play it off as a clown, but honestly? Even that fails miserably.

That clown basically acts like an "exhaust valve" when you're trying to crunch the numbers. It's like... a pressure release for the whole equation. Second person.
That character is a total psycho. A complete sicko.

Or maybe it’s an alien?

casualharbor72 said:Those people hyping up the first movie always try to pull that "you just don't get it" crap, but if you actually put them on the spot and ask for a single scene that really hit them... man, they struggle to come up with anything...

I watched it and there’s honestly nothing to grab onto...

Take this scene, for example. I mean, it's freaking creepy, and through Art's incredible facial expressions, you can actually see the roots of his psychopathy starting to show.

It’s a minimalist hunter-vs-prey kind of flick, and they nailed the execution perfectly.

"Better to be first in a small town than last in a big city." Something like that. ☕

Honestly, the only way I can even think about Laurie Strode now is how much she aged like milk. Seriously, she’s gone downhill hard, and honestly? The whole movie franchise went right along with her. Total disaster.

Honestly, I’m just gonna say it: in Terrifier 2, the character of Sienna is more fleshed out and better written than Laurie Strode is in the entire Halloween franchise combined. There, I said it. Grab your popcorn. ☕

Nathan Wells29 said:And please, don't even try comparing this movie to something like Halloween Ends

Totally agree 👍

this one is hands down way bolder and actually feels real ☕

Comparing him to porn while failing to compare Art the Clown to Ron Jeremy is basically pure blasphemy

bluerider3 said:They spent 45 minutes analyzing >. Honestly, these people are more unhinged than the director. It’s actually impressive how hard you have to try to make something that shallow and pathetic. Spending 45 minutes breaking that down is just mental. Those people seriously need some professional help.

Seriously though, man, this franchise has tanked so hard that now they’re out here over-explaining some half-baked attempt at a transition.

The movie is unbelievable and stupid. Period.

Morgan Brown4 said:Is the sequel even worth seeing if you haven't seen the first one? I'm thinking about hitting up the theater, but my schedule is a total mess right now...

Honestly, it’s actually better if you watch them backwards. To me, the first movie felt more like a prequel anyway.👍

nimblemarlin6 said:Terrifier is actually really solid—it basically succeeded in being a hit for a super niche, isolated genre.

Oh, wow, bravo Einstein. That’s about as insightful as saying a haunted house belongs in an amusement park. Real groundbreaking stuff right there.

Silence is golden, seriously. ☕

Honestly, it’s just pathetic that I have to sit here and explain basic film theory to people in this thread. It feels like I'm wasting my damn time repeating elementary school movie lessons over and over again.

Millions of horror fans all over the US are absolutely losing their minds over this hit, yet we’re stuck here acting shocked, treating it like some kind of forbidden taboo subject. What a joke.

Look, the director laid it out perfectly: death is just part of being alive. Yeah, sure, the violence is brutal, gross, and totally stomach-turning—that's exactly why it has an R rating—but if we have to waste more energy debating stuff that everyone else moved past ages ago, then we’re basically screwed, both as film buffs and as actual adults.

nimblemarlin6, the more I dig through your post, the more this damn picture starts getting under my skin



just try taking them off, it’s not like anything’s gonna happen☕

Terrifier 2 is making history!

www.nytimes.com/2022/10/25/movies/terrifier-2-box-office.

People are even whispering about an Oscar nomination☕

Ohhh hell yeah!

Terrifier (2016) & Terrifier 2 (2022)

Now that the shredder finally sent Michael Myers off to his eternal hunting grounds, we can finally get comfortable and crown a new king.

The king is dead, long live the king!

Yeah, seriously, there's a new motherfucker in town: Art the Clown!

I've watched both, and honestly, looking at all the horror reviews, something massive is brewing here,
and I got the feeling...

just a bit of that vibe from the promo events

Someone asks the director, "Okay, where did all this come from?"
And he just casually drops, "Well, what else would you expect from a guy whose mom gave him his name right after watching Omen?" 🙏

Betty Chase4 said:I’ve played everything except Village—but honestly, the movie is still pretty terrible. It doesn't even come close to the quality of those first two Resident Evil films.

You really covered everything in that film—you hit every single point perfectly. 👍

I haven't seen any of the others before this one, so I can't really say. But honestly? Milla Jovovich just doesn't work for me here. Total waste of time.