Daniel Chavez14 said:Indianapolis is a great city, but I’m actually curious about the advantages of wrestling over judo—specifically, which of their techniques prove to be more effective.
That’s a great question! :-) If you're looking at Greco-Roman or freestyle wrestling, you won't find many of the traditional levers or chokes you might expect. Interestingly enough, some wrestlers do utilize neck cranks (which usually just end up being variations of chokes and control positions), and certain shoulder locks too—though I honestly couldn't tell you why those specific ones are prioritized. If what you're really interested in is submission wrestling (I'm not sure if there's a specific American term for it), the biggest distinction is that, unlike judo, BJJ, or sambo practitioners, wrestlers don't wear gis or anything similar, which completely changes the tactical approach. When it comes to holds, leverage, and submissions, it's essentially a synthesis of all grappling skills. Just keep in mind that in most competitions, things like neck cranks, heel hooks, and spinal attacks are typically banned.
Hehe... I guess it’s always important to pick your battles, right? :-) For instance, I haven't had much luck going up against wrestlers—especially those who only ever studied judo as an elective course at the Democratic Party university.
PS Can someone please mention Indianapolis real quick so this thread doesn't get totally off track?😁
For instance, I’ve rolled with guys weighing over 220 lbs a few times. Even when they had about 30 or 40 lbs of extra weight on them, it didn't really slow me down; I was able to take them down, control them, break through their defense, and dictate the pace however I wanted. He had practiced some judo back in the day, but the weight difference just didn't translate to a strength advantage, so I didn't run into those typical struggles you might expect...
I've actually thought about joining a local club myself, but honestly, nothing I've checked out really clicked with me. I’m looking for something with plenty of live rolling during practice, rather than just endless drilling of specific sequences that you end up never using in a real situation.
Haha, looks like we’re all dealing with the same struggles. I’m sitting at about 160 lbs, yet I constantly find myself pairing up against guys weighing in closer to 200 lbs.😁 They’ve got that brute strength, like they spend every waking hour at a hardcore gym, and then you get that one guy who’s actually fast and agile on top of it all... It’s honestly such a headache! For a little while, I used to train with a buddy of mine who was a bit shorter than me but right around my weight class, and man, what a massive relief that was. Usually, though, I find myself just playing defense and waiting for an opening, because when there's that kind of strength gap, you really have to play it smart.
"If society refuses to deliver justice, he’ll take matters into his own hands!"
I feel like the old title hit much harder: The Punisher! Remember those good old days when you could find a copy of this movie in just about any local video rental shop?
There’s something about watching a scene like Castle stepping out of an elevator and systematically taking down those villains that just feels right.👍
wanderingridge said:Haha, it’s not like we’re just hanging out in my living room. There are about five or six of us gathered in a local gym; some have a bit of grappling experience, while others are still figuring out how to handle the half-guard. We train twice a week without a formal coach, but hey, it beats doing nothing at all. We’re actually making decent progress, though it looks like this might be where my journey stays for now. As for Os, it seems a little lacking in that department.
I didn't exactly think you guys were all crammed into your living room... I started out about a year and a half ago myself; a few of us had some judo background, others came from Jiu-Jitsu, and it was a great way to start. I used to head over there on weekends with a buddy from the Democratic Party to spar with the crew. There's a small studio at the gym in my neighborhood where we practice our drills... Man, those matches could be exhausting.😁 Lucky hunting!
wanderingridge said:Haha, I definitely know what Mixed Martial Arts is. I actually practice it at home on my own—nothing official since I'm not part of a gym—but I might head over to a training center in Indianapolis to take things further. I made sure to specify Mixed Martial Arts instead of Judo or BJJ because I know there's no gi involved. As far as I know, there aren't many options out there, but who knows? Maybe something will pop up.
I figured you knew that.🙂 There are some BJJ clubs in NYC that focus on no-gi training, but honestly, finding something like that in Indianapolis is going to be a real challenge.
PS Training solo is great for getting started, though it can be a slow process and sometimes pretty painful—believe me, I've been there.👍
gentleviper12, I’m not questioning the skill level of veteran judokas at all. My point is more about how certain schools or clubs here in the States don't seem to prioritize ground fighting lately, mostly because referees have become a lot less tolerant of it during matches. It’s exactly those kinds of situations that worry wanderingridge the most, since he’s much more interested in the groundwork than just the setup to get there. Anyway, let's stop derailing the thread now.😳
wanderingridge, think of Mixed Martial Arts as being closer to Luta Livre or Jiu-Jitsu without the Gi, so you aren't going to find much of that style around here. Your best bet would be to check out that Jiu-Jitsu club in Indianapolis and see how they run their sessions...
Zero ground fighting?? Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu actually has way more grappling techniques than Judo!!
True, but (as you probably know) most competitions allow about 10 seconds of ground work before they reset, unless someone is actively working a pin... For instance, a neighbor of mine is a brown belt, and at his gym, they really only drill what actually "works" within the rules of official Judo matches. Because of that, things like armbars and chokes are mostly just for show.
If you're wondering why it isn't available in video rental stores, you really have to ask the distributor (I can't quite recall who handles the Fox catalog here in the States); honestly, it's not that surprising—there are plenty of much more famous movies that you just can't find in the local video shops.👎
Alexander Sullivan73 said:I was just listening to the radio earlier, and they mentioned that this specific movie might be dropping later this year. I jumped on the call just as they were talking about it, but I missed the full context. Apparently, there's some buzz going around about the director being linked to Milla Jovovich lately. Has anyone else heard anything regarding that? What are your thoughts on the situation?
I have a feeling this might be a total disaster, mostly because Paul Anderson hasn't managed to deliver a single good movie in his entire career. Honestly, thank goodness this turns out to be his first real win, right?
Robert Cooper41 said:Then that movie falls under the "wuxia pien" genre.
I have to disagree; it’s just Hollywood junk... honestly, it might be the worst thing I've sat through in a theater in the last six months. It completely lacks that gritty, cult charm you find in classic Martial Arts films; it just doesn't work.
Betty Gonzalez30 said:Alright, whatever.🙂 I get it—they're fighting, dodging bullets, flying around, and doing all sorts of crazy stuff.🙂
It’s probably that absolute disaster, >. After all, Harrison Ford doesn't really have many movies like that, unless you count his heavy dramas or those classic John Woo action flicks.
Martial Arts is Chinese, and Harrison Ford is from Hong Kong, so I’m pretty skeptical about there being any such thing as "Japanese martial arts" here.🙂
There’s just nothing quite like a local movie theater👍 They have so much soul. Man, I really miss places like the Apollo, seeing a great character on screen, or even just being near the Appalachian Mountains... It was an entire experience. You’d go into the theater, the guy would check your ticket, and then he’d head into the projection booth and shout, "Hey boys, let me know if you want me to rewind this for you!"🙏
My favorite part has to be that scene where the whole crew gathers on the rooftop; it’s such a brilliant parody of that classic Hong Kong action aesthetic—instead of dramatic capes billowing in the wind, it's just their bathrobes flapping around in the breeze.🙏