Posts by rowdyhawk10

ruggedeagle10 said:FlashG finally caught on to what I’ve known from the very beginning—that core truth you find so controversial and problematic. But honestly? Your inability to grasp it isn't my burden to carry. Why should I exhaust myself trying to explain the obvious to someone who refuses to see?

Perhaps you are the one who needs to come to terms with yourself first—to actually sit down, listen, and then attempt to truly understand what others are saying.

What does that Native American symbol actually signify to me? I find myself staring at this string of characters—this "akflajfioah"—and I can't help but wonder: what exactly are we trying to achieve here? Is this a sudden lapse in communication, a digital shrug, or perhaps a quiet protest against the very idea of coherent discourse? It feels less like a statement and more like the sound of someone losing their grip on the keyboard, or maybe just someone testing the limits of an empty void. One has to ask oneself: does randomness serve a purpose in a world already drowning in noise, or is it simply a symptom of our collective exhaustion?Nothing? Absolutely nothing at all.

But what if he actually sat down and explained the true significance of it all a few times? If you have been around this forum long enough, surely you have developed at least a basic understanding of what the Cross actually represents to a Christian?

Of course, when have I ever actually claimed otherwise? Go ahead—pull up one of my quotes that uses those exact words. I'll wait.

When exactly was that, and where did I say it? Just give me one quote—just one single quote!

To me, "akflajfioah" means absolutely nothing, but Love? That means everything!

If a Native American were to write to me several times explaining that akflajfioah equals love, I would understand him.

Your analogy is flawed; it has nothing to do with my actual statement, which is what you find objectionable!

Actually, it’s quite clear why you find it offensive—it’s because you fail to grasp the sheer depth and dimension of the Cross.

It sounds that way to you because you lack the capacity to understand others, nor do you seem to care to try.

The entire issue stems from a single absurdity... because of your refusal to understand anyone else, people end up getting issued warnings in the complaint book!! You expect others to understand you, to adapt to your ignorance and your lack of comprehension, so they tread carefully in their speech... yet you refuse to do the same for them. Are you really demanding from others what you won't provide yourself??

And when you don't get your way... you punish people shamelessly!

Where did I ever claim that Christians hold a monopoly??

I understand Peter Stewart6 perfectly well, and that is precisely what I have been saying all along; she simply explained it more thoroughly than I did, but you remain blind to it!

Do some actual reading of my posts! How many times do I have to explain that a tribal inhabitant in the deepest jungle could be a Christian at heart without ever having heard a single word about Christianity or the historical Jesus??

If he lives the cross, even if he’s never even seen the symbol, I could sit him down, explain what the Cross represents in his own language, and he would embrace me as a brother. Why? Because he has that inside him... because he embodies that Cross every single day (through sacrifice, through enduring suffering, through giving himself up for others) = Love!

So, according to your logic, I’m calling that man a servant of Satan?? Please...

Try to learn what the Cross actually means to Christians, otherwise you’ll just keep running into these exact same misunderstandings wherever you go!

In response to me and, say, FlashG—assuming you’ve actually grasped our point—you could have simply written: "You're both right. Anyone preaching love without the Cross (understanding what the Cross signifies to us) is essentially preaching a love without suffering, without sacrificing for others or even one's enemies, without mercy, and without forgiveness. Such a person is effectively serving the devil... they are a walking contradiction, preaching a love they don't actually possess."

I never said that... it's just further proof of your inability to grasp the Christian perspective or truly understand the faith.

I constantly write about the Cross through the universal value of Love that it symbolizes for me—the act of self-sacrifice for another... yet you view it solely as a tool for torture!

That's your problem, not mine... 😉

Alex Barnes8 said:Could you please stop mocking Catholics and their faith?🙂

Alex Barnes8 said:So why exactly are you throwing shade at the people who are actually doing the work for you?

Alex Barnes8 said:Or is it just us Catholics who have to walk on eggshells around your sensitive feelings and nerves, while you don't feel any need to show the same courtesy toward ours? 😉

Christian Torres3 said:Come on, I’m asking you—give me an example of one of his posts that you actually found hilarious and lacking in substance, so we can all have a laugh together and identify exactly where the logic fails.

Peter Stewart6 said:I wouldn't want to butt into your discussion, but I feel like responding here. Regardless of the cross,
it seems like you don't quite grasp what the Cross actually means. What was the Cross in Jesus's life
here in America? What is the Cross in any person's life? I can agree with you and
say that it can be a sort of guillotine—perhaps a spiritual guillotine for a person's heart
(their inner self). In Jesus's life, it was a crucified and pierced love,
piercing His heart (His inner self) and His body. In a person's life, the Cross is that crucified
and pierced love that person offers, doing everything out of love for their neighbors, their
households, close and distant family, friends, and even strangers, simply doing
good because their heart (inner self) is turned toward goodness; they love them.
Expecting nothing in return. Even those who aren't believers, who haven't
met God yet, can do this. And after being burned by various people they helped unknowingly,
they end up trampled, alone, abandoned, and exhausted. It is then that many encounter God through the Cross.
Only then do they realize that someone went before them—Jesus. Only then do many face Him, matching their own suffering and pain with His. That’s when they find the strength to keep going. That is rowdyhawk10's cross.

Oh, right, sorry—you're quoting that same point again which caused another user (FlashG) to get a warning previously, which led to you getting one too. Simply put, neither you nor FlashG can say "anyone who preaches love without the cross is Satan." Christians don't have a monopoly on love. Buddhists preach love without a cross, Muslims do, and everyone else does, so you can't just call 4/5 of humanity Satan. If I had given FlashG a warning but left you alone, he would have asked: "Why am I the only one getting a warning?!" We have to be fair and treat everyone the same. Even if a Muslim said that anyone preaching love without the crescent and star is Satan, I'd hand them a red card too. Regards. 🙂

Regarding the bolded part: of course, Christians don't have a monopoly on love. It's just that
those who live a crucified love might be the ones who truly understand the concept of love on the Cross.
Yet many people live that way in their lives, across all faiths and religions, and even among those
without faith. As I tried to explain above, Jesus says: "This is my commandment:
love one another as I have loved you! No one has greater love than this:
to lay down one's life for one's friends. You are my friends if you do what I command you." John 15:12-14.

What does it mean to "lay down one's life"? Many veterans laid down their lives in war so we could sit here typing,
not calculating when they fought for the country; they went out of love for their homeland and their people.
Mothers and fathers, for example, lay down their lives for their children, sacrificing themselves and their
many needs for the sake of their kids. Not out of calculation, but out of love. In the old days,
and even now, many live a Cross through the way their children give back to them. What is the comfort for those parents?
What provides comfort to the many parents who have lost their children to war, illness,
or various other tragedies? What truly offers solace to those who suffer? And so many people experience suffering
during certain chapters of their lives.
Human comfort is fleeting, but God's is constant and eternal. People tend to run away from those who are hurting,
so many of them do, but Jesus leans in toward the one who suffers and takes them into His own Hands.
He is the only one who can truly understand. And His Mother.
Who held Him in His Hands? His Mother did, both during His life and when they took Him down
from the Cross. From her, He learned about love from childhood, and He fulfilled and completed that journey on the Cross.

I think what FlashG and ruggedeagle10 were probably trying to say was just clumsily written.
In my opinion, they wanted to point toward the presence of love within the life of the Cross, and
that anyone who rejects the Cross and living in that kind of love—instead preaching some other
version of love—isn't really acting according to God's plan. The ungodly dishonor the Cross. On the Cross,
victory was won through love. And we know what the ungodly stand for; there is no
denial of anything God wants or where He is leading us.

You can see how much people love and who their role models are by the crosses they carry. It’s clear
who stood beneath Jesus's Cross: the Blessed Virgin Mary, John, and Mary Magdalene.
Sinlessness in the form of the Virgin, the priest in the form of the apostle, and the sinfulness washed clean by Blood
of a person in the form of Magdalene. Through experienced and recognized love, in the pain of empathy, they look
at Jesus—crucified without having committed a single sin—at the eyes of those who haven't yet experienced that Love.
That is why He went to the Cross, voluntarily, without calculation, so that many could experience Love and finally truly live.
If people crucified God in the likeness of Jesus and the form of a man, how could they not do the same to a person today?
They realized what they had done afterward; it’s the same way today. Many realize what they’ve done only after a person dies.
Many never realize it here on Earth, and many realize it only to act like Judas once before.
We could talk about this for ages, but here is a brief take on the Cross that causes you such doubt as a Christian.
Everyone carries some kind of suffering in life; no one is an exception, whether rich or poor, believers or
non-believers, religious or non-religious—it all depends on which side of the fence you sit on. It's similar to the two
thieves alongside Jesus on the Cross.
Best.

FlashG said:Anyone preaching love without the cross is the devil.

ruggedeagle10 said:As I have already stated, and as has been patently obvious for quite some time now... attempting to explain this to you or break it down into more digestible terms seems almost futile. Is it truly necessary to repeat what is already laid bare? 🤷

I am not twisting anyone's words. I am simply explaining exactly what FlashG intended to convey—what he actually meant. It is my interpretation, and frankly, it is one that I share. I have stated quite clearly, on more than one occasion, that... cross!

To us, Christ's cross represents Love itself, so in that sense, it hardly matters whether one phrasing is used over the other. That is precisely why I felt the need to write it out again—to bridge the gap and provide a clearer explanation once more.

Don't go thinking I'm going to do this all over again. Four times. It seems we have reached a point where I am once again tasked with the tedious necessity of explaining things. Why is it that clarity is such a rare commodity in our modern discourse? One would think that with all the information at our fingertips, understanding would follow naturally, yet here we are, circling the same drain of confusion. Is it a lack of attention, or perhaps a fundamental refusal to grasp the obvious? I find myself wondering if the effort required to clarify these points is ever truly rewarded, or if we are simply shouting into a void of indifference. It’s all the same thing..

And so, we finally see exactly who is relying on nothing but cheap distortions and mental gymnastics to mislead everyone else. It’s all very transparent, really. But let’s be clear: those tactics don't work on me anymore. All those twisted arguments you're spinning here? You might as well direct them toward your own reflection, because I'm certainly not buying any of it.

To you. It’s exactly the same thing! It's all one and the same to me, to FlashG, and to millions upon millions of Christians out there. Not quite.!!!

Should we all be forced to conform to your blindness and ignorance? Must we all tailor our words specifically so that, given your total lack of comprehension regarding the Cross, you aren't triggered by the nonsense you clearly fail to grasp? Is it really true that because of your singular issue, we are the ones facing warnings and bans? 🤣

Do you actually grasp the sheer level of absurdity and the circus you’re putting on here? Does any part of this even register with you...? (Don't bother answering; it was purely rhetorical.)

Am I free to say whatever I please, or are you actually going to try and silence me?

I intend to speak this specific truth and bear witness to Jesus's cross whenever I am called upon to do so. There is nothing you can do to stop me—not your ridiculous little little rules, nor your proven distortions, lies, deceptions, and the sheer vitriol you spread wherever you go through your writing and your actions as a moderator!

These are nothing more than your vague assumptions and prejudices, fueled by whatever reasons or blindness you possess. I won't bother dissecting them further because they are entirely beside the point... all you're doing is proving that even after my repeated explanations, you still haven't grasped a single word I'm saying.

FlashG said:Anyone preaching love without the cross is essentially the devil.

ruggedeagle10 said:I suppose anyone who preaches love without the cross is just talking nonsense. (victims, suffering, agony, sacrificing oneself for others) = without love, from It’s just Satanism. He’s a liar.

ruggedeagle10 said:That simply isn't true! It was actually him who preaches love without love (which is what the Cross represents—true love) and called them devils. I merely agreed with him, stating that such people are from Satan and are nothing but liars!

And here you are, putting yourself in the position of punishing people who write about the greatest possible demonstrated and proven love—about the dimension of the Cross in which all good and selfless sacrifices for another (anyone) are contained. Such sacrifice is the holiest thing and the ultimate affirmation of love; it is the prime example of man for man, and subsequently, God for man!

Because you fail to grasp this confession of faith due to your own ignorance and blindness, you take it upon yourself to misinterpret and falsely characterize first FlashG and then myself. In doing so, you effectively punish a testimony of faith and the celebration of such greatness. But how could I ever hope to explain or bring such things closer to someone like you?.. 🤷

It is as tragic and absurd as much of what you contribute to this forum.

Where on earth do you see any lobbying? I am participating in a thread regarding the crucifixion, quoting a post that is perfectly relevant to the topic, agreeing with it, and writing my entire response in accordance with the subject at hand.

I am personally "aggrieved by a moderator's action"—did you even bother to look at the link I provided above??

So tell me, are you deliberately trying to mislead me again, as is your custom, or do you genuinely struggle to comprehend the forum rules??

Are these really your words, coming from you after everything that has transpired (read: the persecution of Christians)!??? 😲 Simply scandalous!!

And didn't I already tell you not to quote me or address me directly except in one specific instance, and do you know which one that is??!

I have stated this more times than I can count: I have no interest in your false explanations, designed solely for the purpose of further deception. I am only writing to ensure that the darkness you spread through your actions on this forum doesn't get lost in the fog and mud you've created on the complaint book pdf religion!

ruggedeagle10 said:That simply isn't true! It was actually him who preaches love without love (which is what the Cross represents—true love) and called them devils. I merely agreed with him, stating that such people are from Satan and are nothing but liars!

And here you are, putting yourself in the position of punishing people who write about the greatest possible demonstrated and proven love—about the dimension of the Cross in which all good and selfless sacrifices for another (anyone) are contained. Such sacrifice is the holiest thing and the ultimate affirmation of love; it is the prime example of man for man, and subsequently, God for man!

Because you fail to grasp this confession of faith due to your own ignorance and blindness, you take it upon yourself to misinterpret and falsely characterize first FlashG and then myself. In doing so, you effectively punish a testimony of faith and the celebration of such greatness. But how could I ever hope to explain or bring such things closer to someone like you?.. 🤷

It is as tragic and absurd as much of what you contribute to this forum.

Where on earth do you see any lobbying? I am participating in a thread regarding the crucifixion, quoting a post that is perfectly relevant to the topic, agreeing with it, and writing my entire response in accordance with the subject at hand.

I am personally "aggrieved by a moderator's action"—did you even bother to look at the link I provided above??

So tell me, are you deliberately trying to mislead me again, as is your custom, or do you genuinely struggle to comprehend the forum rules??

Are these really your words, coming from you after everything that has transpired (read: the persecution of Christians)!??? 😲 Simply scandalous!!

And didn't I already tell you not to quote me or address me directly except in one specific instance, and do you know which one that is??!

I have stated this more times than I can count: I have no interest in your false explanations, designed solely for the purpose of further deception. I am only writing to ensure that the darkness you spread through your actions on this forum doesn't get lost in the fog and mud you've created on the complaint book pdf religion!

ruggedeagle10 said:That simply isn't true! It was actually him who preaches love without love (which is what the Cross represents—true love) and called them devils. I merely agreed with him, stating that such people are from Satan and are nothing but liars!

And here you are, putting yourself in the position of punishing people who write about the greatest possible demonstrated and proven love—about the dimension of the Cross in which all good and selfless sacrifices for another (anyone) are contained. Such sacrifice is the holiest thing and the ultimate affirmation of love; it is the prime example of man for man, and subsequently, God for man!

Because you fail to grasp this confession of faith due to your own ignorance and blindness, you take it upon yourself to misinterpret and falsely characterize first FlashG and then myself. In doing so, you effectively punish a testimony of faith and the celebration of such greatness. But how could I ever hope to explain or bring such things closer to someone like you?.. 🤷

It is as tragic and absurd as much of what you contribute to this forum.

Where on earth do you see any lobbying? I am participating in a thread regarding the crucifixion, quoting a post that is perfectly relevant to the topic, agreeing with it, and writing my entire response in accordance with the subject at hand.

I am personally "aggrieved by a moderator's action"—did you even bother to look at the link I provided above??

So tell me, are you deliberately trying to mislead me again, as is your custom, or do you genuinely struggle to comprehend the forum rules??

Are these really your words, coming from you after everything that has transpired (read: the persecution of Christians)!??? 😲 Simply scandalous!!

And didn't I already tell you not to quote me or address me directly except in one specific instance, and do you know which one that is??!

I have stated this more times than I can count: I have no interest in your false explanations, designed solely for the purpose of further deception. I am only writing to ensure that the darkness you spread through your actions on this forum doesn't get lost in the fog and mud you've created on the complaint book pdf religion!

ruggedeagle10 said:In the PDF titled Religion, specifically within the thread Why the cross??, there is an attempt to explain the significance of Christ's cross—what it actually represents and its deeper symbolism. Yet, when people try to bear witness to their faith, they are met with nothing but vitriol; they receive enough insults to troll nearly 80% of humanity! 😍 😢

Brian Edwards6 said:

Susan Brooks83 said:Listen, Brian Edwards6, even words have the power to kill a person's spirit.

Why is your tone so incredibly polite?👎

Susan Brooks83 said:No, I forgive. I’ll do it just like the Good Pope did—by visiting the cell of the man who tried to kill him right after the assassination attempt.

Roger Barrett2 said:I guess I’ll join the protest against Drew Reed6. The way he writes really should be sanctioned, for the exact reasons you mentioned.

Drew Reed6 said:I suggest you actually read the bylaws regarding post length; if a message is too long, the rule states it should be broken up into smaller segments. However, it seems quite obvious that you and Morgan Rodriguez57 are simply targeting me because you can't stand my writing. Even the moderator had to take notice of it. Some of your own posts even make that clear. You, on the other hand, stopped once you claimed you were done dealing with me, but he hasn't.

I suspect you two—and perhaps others besides—are actually coordinating this. It seems like the goal is to push out any moderators who don't align with your radical religious views. Honestly, I don't see why my posting frequency should bother you. You claim to be an intellectual yourself, someone who studies theology and churns out 3,000-word essays. From what I know, actual intellectuals can breeze through entire books without breaking a sweat. Yet, somehow, you can't manage to read a few posts? It’s honestly laughable. Clearly, your real motive lies elsewhere.

I suppose there isn't much point in even debating this further, especially since you or Morgan Rodriguez57 have already made it clear that it’s vital for everyone—presumably the believers—to know that my writing is supposedly meaningless. It seems your goal isn't actually to engage in a discussion here, but rather to find ways to suppress what I have to say. When your attempt to get the moderators to come after me failed, you seemingly pivoted to trying to satisfy yourselves by simply belittling my work. However, that didn't seem to work either, given that you weren't able to actually refute my arguments. It’s becoming quite obvious now that your plan is to install your own moderators on this forum while pushing out the current ones.

So, it’s really not surprising at all that you’re the one stepping up to help Morgan Rodriguez57. I suppose it wouldn't have shocked me if this was just one of your joint efforts.

Brian Edwards6 said:

Susan Brooks83 said:Not even close, 😳 I suppose I’ll just add to your supposed "commitment" here, given your passion for God's Truth. 🥳
Maybe you have a "colleague" out there who could advocate for you as much as you seem to be advocating for her here. It's almost as if you're both complementing one another in this advocacy.

A true Catholic woman...👍
It might be best to remove the Good Pope from your signature. It doesn't quite align with the sentiment expressed above it.🤷

Susan Brooks83 said:One day you will be "immersed," from Above, by the Crucifix of Jesus. 🙂

Susan Brooks83 said:Hey there, Chris Peterson53. 🙂

I don't think I've ever received such high praise... 🙂

feralpilot0 said:It’s just hyperbole and nitpicking. Someone might imply something, or maybe it follows from a point, or perhaps it stems from a certain logic... I suppose you can stretch almost anything to fit, but that shouldn't be grounds for getting banned. Otherwise, you can never actually tell anyone they're misinterpreting a text without them feeling attacked, or everyone would have to walk on eggshells like they're made of glass just to avoid a single misplaced letter being taken the wrong way.

🙂

Susan Brooks83 said:The sentence you quoted refers specifically to amnesty, rather than what you seem to be implying is a "justification." 🙄
Essentially, the term amnesty and the term clemency carry two distinct meanings. ☕

Jose Fox4 said:Hey rowdyhawk10,
even a bird on a wire knows all about the Inquisition, the Crusades, that sketchy Moses guy, and the whole cross situation that makes people foam at the mouth or causes weird smoke and grill-like smells to come pouring out of their bodies... etc., etc...
Anyway, this is basically the level these debates on Religion reach. Way to go, honestly. Great job.

Regarding this, I really think we should put up a warning about the blatant nepotism happening here, and specifically call out that people shouldn't start threads just to bash atheism.
That would actually be fair for once.

EDIT:

I’ve got zero intention of posting on Religion anymore or even arguing here. It’s just pointless...

Later.

Jose Fox4 said:Hey rowdyhawk10,
even a bird on a wire knows all about the Inquisition, the Crusades, that sketchy Moses guy, and the whole cross situation that makes people foam at the mouth or causes weird smoke and grill-like smells to come pouring out of their bodies... etc., etc...
Anyway, this is basically the level these debates on Religion reach. Way to go, honestly. Great job.

Regarding this, I really think we should put up a warning about the blatant nepotism happening here, and specifically call out that people shouldn't start threads just to bash atheism.
That would actually be fair for once.

EDIT:

I’ve got zero intention of posting on Religion anymore or even arguing here. It’s just pointless...

Later.

rowdyhawk10 said:Look, what you wrote there is nothing more than pure trolling mixed with a heavy dose of personal attacks. And the backlash hasn't even died down yet regarding the mess you left in the "Orthodox world" thread, where your insinuations turned into a public condemnation without any actual basis.

Did I personally insult you at any point in this thread?
Did I analyze your character or your personality?
Did I tell you what kind of person you are?
Did I claim that you hate someone or something?

I know you do this intentionally so that once you get a warning, you can complain about being "terrorized" by others. This is a constant tactic used by a few individuals on this forum—defending the abnormality of your beliefs (and your quasi-ecstasies, if we must call them that) in such an undignified manner by spitting on anyone who recognizes the sheer absurdity and depth of idolatry. You prefer to muddy the waters of a clear, spontaneous dialogue because you thrive in the confusion. When you realize you can't reasonably defend your convictions—mostly because you can't accept anyone else's—you resort to this low tactic: starting personal insults to make any real conversation impossible. So, if you aren't capable of avoiding this behavior, perhaps you should just avoid the forum altogether. Best,

feralpilot0 said:I suppose the post isn't trolling, but rather on-topic, since you can't really troll just by attempting to explain a disputed point. 🙂

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:you clearly don't know how to read sensibly

Alex Barnes8 said:👍👍👍
rowdyhawk10, where are you? I guess maybe these questions of ours are just particularly hard for you to answer.😢 Come on, you can always just accuse us of spamming or trolling if it makes things easier.🙂