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Nancy Phillips6 said:So, when Sarkozy basically told Cameron to shut it (despite the fact that the UK sends about 40% of its exports to the European Union):
'You missed a golden opportunity to shut up. We’ve had enough of your criticism and your lectures on what we should be doing. You claim to hate the Euro, yet now you want to meddle in our business.'

Things aren't ever going to be the same... "global fluid capital" (to borrow a phrase from the PL) is just going to bypass the European Union entirely, heading straight for those Anglo-American offshore financial empires.
The future looks pretty grim for the Euro.

I suppose Sarkozy's outburst was quite perfectly timed. He stepped in less than 24 hours after that first major debate in Parliament regarding the UK leaving the European Union. It seems Cameron's standing, which was already looking rather shaky following that debate, has been further undermined now. If 111 MPs (including 79 Conservatives) voted on Monday to call for a referendum, I imagine if the vote were held today—right after Sarkozy's comments—that number might have climbed to at least 150. That wouldn't be a figure one could simply ignore, as it would likely constitute a majority of the Conservative bloc in Parliament. It feels as though France has returned to a sort of De Gaulle-style policy of keeping the UK out of the European Union, which might actually be a positive development. Even though much of the political establishment still leans toward the EU, public sentiment appears to be shifting; according to a recent poll, maybe 70% of citizens want a referendum, and of those who show up, I suspect between 58 and 62% would vote to leave the Union.

But, if we move past the political maneuvering, I think Sarkozy's logic fails to hold up under scrutiny. The British Prime Minister should certainly have a seat at any table discussing the future of the Euro, perhaps not just because of trade, but because American taxpayers and British taxpayers alike have contributed significantly to funds used to bail out the Irish banking crisis and the stabilization efforts in Greece. Essentially, if the UK is expected to contribute funds to save the Euro or stabilize European economies, then it seems somewhat contradictory to insult the Prime Minister while simultaneously trying to bar him from meetings where decisions are made that will ultimately impact the UK's own finances.
The proposal to schedule a non-binding referendum regarding the United Kingdom's departure from the European Union—which was debated late last night in Parliament—has triggered the most significant rebellion by members of the governing party against the position of the Federal Government and David Cameron since 1974. It appears that 111 Republicans voted in favor of proceeding with the referendum, despite the explicit requests made by their own party leader, David Cameron, to vote against it. I suppose the motion ultimately failed, however, because the Democratic Party and the Liberals, who serve as the coalition partner, both cast votes against it.

The proposal for a referendum has officially entered the legislative process following a request from an overwhelming majority of party delegates during the Republican Party's annual convention held this past September. It is important to clarify that, strictly speaking, neither the Federal Government nor the Republican Party formally submitted the proposal; rather, the debate was initiated through a legal provision that allows Congress to deliberate on matters supported by petitions containing at least 100,000 verified citizen signatures. Most of the signature collection was organized by local Republican Party branches across the United States, though it also received significant backing from various other Euroskeptic parties and organizations throughout the country.

The legislative proposal currently under debate in Congress proposed holding a referendum consisting of three specific questions:

I suppose I might support the idea of the United Kingdom remaining within the European Union, though I am perhaps not entirely certain if that is the most prudent course of action.

I suppose one might wonder whether you support the United Kingdom's departure from the European Union, though I cannot say for certain what your position might be.

I suppose I might be inclined to support the idea of the UK Government reopening negotiations with the other European Union member states regarding all previously signed treaties, though I am not entirely certain if such a move would ultimately prove beneficial.

I suppose the most significant point made by David Cameron during the debate was that holding a referendum might be unnecessary, and perhaps even risky, given the current state of affairs within the European Union. Especially with the acute currency crisis involving the Euro currently unfolding—which, if left unaddressed, could potentially inflict serious damage on the British economy—it seems he believes the Federal Government remains firmly committed to preventing any further erosion of national sovereignty toward Brussels, regardless of whether a vote actually takes place.

I suppose some Euroskeptics have argued that the concerns held by Britons aren't really about a future loss of national sovereignty, but rather about the erosion that has already taken place. There was a sentiment expressed that the signing of the Lisbon Treaty essentially served as a platform to establish a harsh dictatorship and dismantle democracy within Europe. It might also be argued that any economic impact from leaving the European Union would be less significant than the ongoing costs required to help stabilize the Euro, which isn't even the United Kingdom's currency and arguably shouldn't concern the nation at all.

Following the debate and subsequent vote, both the leadership of the Republican Party and the Federal Government have adopted a rather conciliatory tone toward the rebels within their own ranks. I suppose one might say that Secretary of Education Michael Gove suggested that holding a referendum on leaving the European Union isn't an option the Government has entirely ruled out. It seems their current position is merely that such a vote shouldn't take place at this specific moment, rather than suggesting it should never happen or that the United Kingdom is committed to staying in the European Union forever and at any cost.

David Cameron is currently in negotiations with the European Commission and other member states regarding three specific areas where he hopes to either completely exclude or significantly reduce the authority of central European Union bodies relative to decisions made here in the United Kingdom. I guess the Federal Government believes that the United Kingdom must maintain independent and sovereign control over employment policy, economic growth incentives, and certain judicial jurisdictions—which is why we are initiating our withdrawal from the European arrest warrant system. We have already rejected portions of the Lisbon Treaty that required us to establish a centralized residency register and implement national ID cards. I suppose the Federal Government would never accept such measures under any circumstances, and perhaps the version of Europe attempting to impose them isn't the kind of Europe we truly need. In this context, it seems possible that the necessity for a referendum on leaving might actually arise in the near future, though the current position of the Government is that while David Cameron’s negotiations continue and until a final agreement on resolving the Eurozone crisis is reached, it probably wouldn't be wise for the United Kingdom to further destabilize the structure of the European Union by holding such a referendum right now.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15425256
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Brussels.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...rebellion.html
Don't bring up the parents! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Daniel Campbell5 said:3. So, does this mean that you, as a Politics moderator, are now allowing me—given my previous reasoning regarding why mentioning parents is relevant—to start a new thread about M. Bajić where I lay out certain facts concerning his father's service in the resistance during the war?

My apologies, Daniel Campbell5—I haven't been around these parts for a little while.

I suppose I can't really offer you any guarantees ahead of time. If the father of the Attorney General did something that truly interests the public, then perhaps it might be permitted, but if you intend to detail a "resistance path" and then attempt to draw connections to his son's current public office, the thread will likely end up being removed.

Personally, I am not particularly fond of topics that encourage users to engage in "mob justice" against anyone, and I believe one should maintain a certain level of respect for the Office of the Attorney General, regardless of who happens to hold the position at the moment. Perhaps it would be best if you were to draft an introductory post and send it to at least two different Politics mods before publishing it; we can look it over and let you know our thoughts. I can't think of much else to suggest.

Best regards
Don't bring up the parents! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Daniel Campbell5 - I suppose if one wanted to argue why parents should be part of the discussion, those points really ought to have been brought up before the warning was issued; perhaps it is just a bit too late for that now.

restlessmason7 - This isn't actually a debate about the merits of the topic itself, but rather a discussion regarding the moderator's decision and their specific criteria; I think you might have missed the point of the PDF entirely.
Don't bring up the parents! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I suppose the Moderator should be the one to decide on the ban. In my view, mentioning parents is perfectly fine, provided that within the discussion one can demonstrate a clear reason why such a detail is actually relevant.

It is true that while discussing the bomb in Norway, I brought up the fact that the current Norwegian Prime Minister's father served as a special envoy for the Secretary-General of the UN regarding the former Yugoslavia region. Given the context of the debate over the stance the Prime Minister took last night regarding foreign investigators looking into terrorist attacks, it seemed appropriate to mention this, and perhaps even useful for our local perspective. Ultimately, both men have functioned as public officials.

On the other hand, it is also true that just the day before yesterday, I myself issued a ban on a thread regarding Joe Biden, because a user was questioning the ethnic origins and ideological background of the President of the United States' parents in a way that I felt was inappropriate.

Perhaps the Admin could look into how you have mentioned parents in the past and how Robert Hall7 and casuallynx8 have been treated by others. At first glance, I don't see any inconsistency between their actions and my own.
Dealing with hate speech online in Feedback & Suggestions ·
If someone starts citing ethnic background as the reason why a person is bad at their job, then that is incredibly grating to me. If they go even further by manipulating labels—like calling one parent an "ideological relic" when they are actually just a standard American, while labeling the other parent solely by an ethnic identifier to imply a certain political leaning—then I believe we are looking at a very sophisticated form of hate speech. It seems to me that this kind of rhetoric might actually be more insidious and damaging than someone using crude profanity or, if I recall our recent debate about that protest sign in San Francisco, even more toxic than that specific banner or anything similar to it.
The situation in Boise is truly a nightmare upon nightmares, though I suppose you all haven't quite shown a need to move this discussion over to a formal policy document yet. I guess I wonder which specific political angles regarding this event you might want to explore.

Thanks,

Democratic Party
I'm your Moderator, and there are no other Moderators besides me in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Tyler Grant76 said:Are you kidding me? 🤣 Well, I actually started that thread using a quote from you. From something you wrote on the forum. It wasn't some fabrication or made-up scenario like you’re trying to pin on me. 🤷 You definitely gave the topic enough fuel, but honestly, no matter how you spin it, you're irrelevant here—you're just representing one specific viewpoint.

So, basically, this whole thread is just a targeted attempt to provoke and harass me personally because of my political views back in March 2010. Today's little incident isn't anything new; it's just more of your usual intolerance toward me.

That's nonsense. I'm just asking you to follow the forum rules.

And let's be perfectly clear: Yes, you claimed the garage in Warsaw would be reserved exclusively for customers of Horvatinčićev apartments.

Irrelevant. But since we're being clear—I didn't. I was commenting on the permit and the development plan, which states exactly that—the spaces are for center users, specifically defined by number. I don't feel like digging up the development plan again right now, but I've looked at it at least five times already. You can Google it yourself if you want. You can find it. I didn't claim anything else; all my posts regarding Warsaw are right there for you to read.

That turned out to be incorrect, much like today's claim that Kerum is planning to sell the hotel to Hilton. In reality, the fact is that Kerum is forced by the terms under which he bought the hotel from the Privatization Fund to sign a franchise agreement with a foreign chain. I know you aren't uninformed. So what am I left to conclude other than that you're just planting false ideas?

This is ridiculous. Over the last few years, I've read and listened to so many of Kerum's statements regarding the Marjan Hotel that I know exactly what I'm talking about, and most of those statements are available online for you too. Honestly, I think I'm the one who should be calling you out for planting ideas when you start rambling about "American ownership."🤷
Anyway, it's your job—both as a user and as a Moderator—to argue your points rather than just whining and jumping to arbitrary conclusions.

And what does any of this have to do with moderation? I've never given you a single warning or penalty just because we disagree—even though there's a school of thought that you should be penalized for breaking discussion rules even when arguing with a moderator, I don't really subscribe to that view. On today's topic, where I clashed with you, I wasn't acting as a moderator; I was just having a discussion. If my status as a Moderator "gets under your skin," that is entirely your own issue, and I have no intention of dealing with it. I'm sorry, though, that you allow yourself to take your personal issues and intolerance out on third parties who have absolutely nothing to do with this.

I’m honestly about to lose it 😁 😁 Just say you feel forced into being a moderator. I guess... look, I expect a moderator to actually follow the forum rules, whether they're posting their own stuff or dealing with everyone else's. That's really all.
If we're going to push this to the limit—and I think we should, because I certainly want to—then your entire response right here is enough reason for you to be moderated rather than doing the moderating.

Well, I see that. If that is how you feel, 😁 I rest my case.
I'm your Moderator, and there are no other Moderators besides me in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Let's take a moment to look back at this, Tyler Grant76:

It seems the entire focus of this discussion has been centered on personal provocation and targeting me as an individual since March 2010, all because of my political views. I suppose today's incident isn't really anything new when it comes to how you express your intolerance toward me.

And just so we are perfectly clear: Yes, you claimed that the garage in Warsaw would be reserved exclusively for buyers of Horvatinčićev apartments. That turned out to be incorrect, much like today's assertion that Kerum is planning to sell the hotel to the Hilton corporation. In reality, the fact is that Kerum is being forced by the terms under which he purchased the hotel from the Privatization Fund to sign a franchise agreement with a foreign chain. I don't believe you are uninformed. So, I guess all I am left to conclude is that you are intentionally misrepresenting the facts.

Furthermore, I wonder what any of this has to do with moderation? I have never issued you a single penalty for simply disagreeing with me—even though there is a school of thought suggesting one can be penalized for violating rules while arguing with a Moderator, I generally don't follow that approach. Regarding today's thread where we clashed, I wasn't acting as a Moderator; I was merely participating in a discussion. The fact that my status as a Moderator "bothers" you is strictly your own issue, and I don't wish to dwell on it. It is unfortunate, I suppose, that you allow your own frustrations and intolerance to impact third parties who have nothing to do with any of this.
Bumbar, I suppose I was wondering if you could perhaps clarify why you feel there is a need for political analysis regarding this specific issue.
The subject matter itself is quite valid and could certainly lead to a meaningful discussion, though I feel it has been presented in an incredibly poor manner. We simply cannot engage in these topics by framing them as a "genetic defect." Such language is entirely unacceptable on Reddit.

slybison8

P.S. — I am letting this slide since you are new to the community, but we will be conducting a thorough IP check on this profile just to ensure there isn't a connection to any previously banned users.
Thread approval policy on Reddit in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I suppose this topic shouldn't have been opened in the first place, though I recognize it's an incredibly pressing matter currently unfolding that naturally captures public interest—so perhaps the standards for moderation are being slightly more lenient here. Even so, it doesn't change the fact that the way you initiated this thread was quite disorganized and poorly structured; furthermore, you have just committed another significant violation of the forum terms of service by posting the contents of a private message.

I truly believe it might be beneficial if you took about ten minutes to review the forum terms of service—I think we all find ourselves needing to do that from time to time, as certain details can easily be overlooked when things are moving quickly.
Thread approval policy on Reddit in Feedback & Suggestions ·
wearycanyon26 said:I wonder who exactly decided that they had the authority to close this thread?😁😁

I suppose colleague Clouseau is entirely correct on this point. The fact that we don't always manage to react quickly enough to poorly launched threads doesn't change the reality that they are still violations of the forum terms of service.

Threads shouldn't be started by simply dropping a link and then asking other Reddit users to weigh in on it. I suppose the whole point of this platform is to actually discuss the people participating here, whereas links should really only serve as helpful context or illustrations for that discussion. Therefore, I feel that anyone starting a thread ought to explain and justify the subject matter and the specific purpose of the conversation they are initiating, while also clearly stating their own position or perhaps explaining why they don't have one. It seems to me that none of those elements were present in your opening post.

That is essentially the main reason your thread was locked. The second reason is the absolute mess you made when you first opened it—posting seven times in a row, most of which were completely empty posts, like those photos of the Secretary of Agriculture and various cabinet candidates. You should be glad Clouseau didn't hand you a warning card for spamming every single one of those posts; if I had noticed such a disorganized thread before he did, I probably would have done exactly that.

In my estimation, rather than receiving those thirty points, he might have perhaps earned even double that amount.

Starting a new thread on the Politics PDF is a serious move. We expect a certain level of responsibility and preparation from our Reddit users. From the very first post, we want to see that a user is capable of competently leading the discussion they’ve initiated, while also demonstrating they know how to effectively use the site's technical features.
What defines trolling? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
William Barrett2 said:Could the mods on duty give me a clear definition of what counts as trolling here?

I suppose trolling would encompass anything that the Moderators deem to be trolling, provided that those decisions are subsequently upheld by the Admins during an appeal process, ☕
Major American holidays in Close to Politics ·
Susan Price30 said:Which one is MY homeland? Explain that to me... and tell me exactly where I shouldn't be "sticking my nose" in, or where I should? I'm listening...



Susan Price30,

I suppose bluecyclist64 is just trying to tease you a little bit without any real malice, so maybe don't take it too personally or feel like you have to respond to everything he says.😉

bluecyclist64,

Susan Price30 is actually quite a lovely young lady with plenty of style and charm. It might be best not to upset her. 🙂

To both of you,

I think I've had enough of having your spammy posts deleted.

slybison8
Major American holidays in Close to Politics ·
Susan Price30 said:^^^

There is May Day, and then there is "May Day" as a synonym for the international holiday celebrated by communists, socialists, anarchists, unionists, and similar activist groups... I have already written about that.

Quote : May day is related to The Celtic festival of Beltane and the Germanic festival of Walpurgis Night.
Quote : May day falls exactly half a year fra November 1 , another cross-quarter day which is also Associated with various northern European Pagan and neopagan festivals such as Samhain.
Quote : May day Marks The end of The unfarmable Winter half of The year in The Northern hemisphere.

Quote : in many countries , May day is synonymous with International Workers ' day , or Labour day, a day of political demonstrations and celebrations organized by communists, anarchists, socialists, unionists, and other activist groups.

But it remains a fact that the May Day Bank Holiday was introduced by Clement Attlee because he wanted the "first of May" to be celebrated as a day off in Great Britain as well.

Well, as for why he felt the need to incorporate all of that along with certain pagan customs—perhaps just to make things smoother for himself and to avoid bruising the pride and dignity of the opposition at the time—that is a different matter entirely.

That particular matter is what shows why British democracy is so stable and enduring, whereas the system in America seems somewhat schizophrenic. Attlee introduced the May Day Bank Holiday in a way that would allow conservatives to keep it even if they were to return to power. A little bit of labor movement here, a few pagan traditions there, and everyone gets to choose what they prefer. He probably didn't think the world would simply stop turning just because he or his Democratic Party were in charge.

Franjo Harmon, on the other hand, designated Independence Day as a celebration of his own party's election victory and its subsequent takeover of the Parliament. That first electoral win and the first multi-party Parliament are undoubtedly very significant, but honestly, I suppose I am not surprised that the Democratic Party changed it as soon as they came to power: Why would they celebrate a date that marks their own electoral defeat as Independence Day? I don't particularly like that they changed it, and I like what they replaced it with even less—but I can understand them, and I see where they were coming from.
Major American holidays in Close to Politics ·
Susan Price30 said:USA

Public holidays in the USA

January 1 – New Year's Day
January 6 – Epiphany
variable date – Easter
1st Monday after Easter - Easter Monday

May 1 – Labor Day

60 days after Easter – Corpus Christi
June 22 – Juneteenth
June 25 – Independence Day
August 5 – Independence Day
August 15 – Assumption of Mary
October 8 – Independence Day
November 1 – All Saints' Day
December 25 – Christmas
December 26 – Saint's Day


In the USA and the United Kingdom, these aren't celebrated😁 nor have they ever been... perhaps one should also include the religious feast of the Patron Saint and celebrate the anniversary of the Fatherland's birthday.🤷

The following should also be mandatory: the start of Lent

March 9 – Ash Wednesday (First day of the 40-day Lent Season – ending Palm Sunday)

Sorry Susan Price30, but I think it actually is celebrated in the UK. It just doesn't happen on May 1st, but rather on the first Monday in May—the May Day Bank Holiday, or Labor Day. I believe it was introduced back in 1946 by Clement Attlee's Democratic Party government.

We celebrated it about a month ago, since it was combined with the public holiday honoring the Royal Wedding 😉
P. L. and the mods are fighting over the Canada thread. in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Kevin Nelson, you have been issued a ban because no one authorized you to advise other Reddit users to leave the platform—an action that cannot be justified by claiming you were merely trolling another user. The ban will remain in effect, your appeal is denied, and this discussion is now closed.
Appeal: Lost the stream due to a ban in Feedback & Suggestions ·
fadedsailor932 said:at their own risk... ballack 981 was banned....

Well done, Mirror—I suppose there was probably just some kind of misunderstanding occurring anyway. 👍
G4 Group in World ·
Gregory Brooks6 said:Look, the USSR and China are permanent members because they were on the winning side of WW2. Besides, China wasn't even a communist country in 1945.

I don't necessarily disagree with what was stated. I suppose I just wanted to emphasize that the victors of 1945 arguably represented the full spectrum of global values much more effectively than they do today. It is true that they became members of the VS primarily due to their victory, but that happened only after certain individuals decided how the UN would be structured—deciding that it should be led by the victors who, at that time, embodied the collective political and social values of everyone involved in defeating Nazism.

I feel that this is no longer the case today.