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Banning users who threaten police reports or similar legal action in Feedback & Suggestions ·
steelskipper5 said:If you actually bother to look at how things work in the real world—I mean, really look—it’s pretty obvious that things rarely play out that way. I guess common sense isn't that common anymore.
Look, if you honestly think he didn't put any thought into this, then just tell him—straight up. Don't go treating him like some little kid or an idiot who needs to be threatened with the Department of Justice or whatever. And honestly? Doing all that while completely ignoring the fact that we have a perfectly functional moderator and admin team right here... that's just unnecessary.

Sometimes it happens—and I mean really happens—where the mod and admin team just decides to act completely ridiculous. I’ve seen it go down more than a few times now.
Look, when someone starts acting that patronizing, they aren't just talking to you—they’re basically trying to hijack Reddit. It’s sketchy, honestly. You start seeing people like this potentially weaponizing the Law of the USA and official government agencies just to win an argument. It's messed up.

Saying "how to turn to turn" just isn't acceptable. It makes zero sense—I mean, seriously?

At the end of the day—and I really mean this—the most uncalled-for part of all this is the constant patronizing of everyone else in the conversation.
Underestimating Reddit... please. Give me a break. 🤣 The forum doesn't report any illegal activity. Either they just delete the stuff in their better moods—if you can even call them that—or, in the worst cases, they just completely ignore it.

So, how exactly can the laws and federal agencies here in the US be abused like that? I mean, I'm sure you’ve got some logical explanation for this—it can't just be some massive, incomprehensible cloud of nonsense, right?
Look, even if someone actually managed to pull that off—which, let's be honest, is a huge if—they’d be answering to the law for it. Plain and simple. They'll face the consequences under the Law of the USA.

In my view, any threat to file a report (which isn't actually filed), or making baseless allegations against someone, constitutes an abuse of the Law of the USA and its repressive systems.

Regrettably, the government might even encourage this by allowing anonymous tips and acting upon them, though that is perhaps a separate issue altogether...

The legal repercussions seem rather trivial. However, the damage caused by bullying someone or subjecting them to an investigation based on malicious or fabricated claims is truly irreversible.

But perhaps all of that is secondary. What matters most is what briskpuma23 wrote, which I feel perfectly articulates my own sentiment:

briskpuma23 said:Threatening to call the cops or some other part of the government on another user is just cowardly. It kills the conversation. Besides, dragging outside elements into a discussion isn't how we do things here on this forum.

What I do think is fair is flagging blatant hate speech or threats of violence to the moderators and admins. You should demand they take action. But pushing that point until you get a permanent ban? That's a different story entirely.

I suspect that a person who publicly threatens to report someone (or openly brags about doing so) is really saying much more about their own character than they are about anyone else.

I would suggest not doing that.
Banning users who threaten police reports or similar legal action in Feedback & Suggestions ·
steelskipper5 said:I'm really not sure if that’s actually a great idea.

See, making a threat like that—regardless of who's doing it—actually gives the other person a moment to pause and rethink things. I mean, reporting something that isn't even against the Law of the USA doesn't achieve anything; I've used that warning myself, and I've seen it used, specifically in cases where there was blatant illegal activity being ignored by mods—whether that's due to ignorance or just plain old stubbornness, but I won't get sidetracked by that.

If the other person is certain they aren't breaking any laws and realize it's just a bluff, they can always just say, "Go ahead, report me." ☕
Continuing the debate along those lines is pretty pointless and, at the very least, totally off-topic.

I don't think there's really any need to grant the other side "time to think"—in fact, maybe that’s precisely what makes this whole situation so unhealthy. Basic respect for an interlocutor usually implies that you assume they have already done their thinking before they ever hit send.

If you truly feel they haven't thought it through, then perhaps it would be better to just tell them that, rather than treating them like a child or someone incompetent who needs to be threatened with legal action. And that's happening despite the presence of a perfectly functional moderation and admin team.

So, by acting in such a patronizing manner, one ends up disrespecting Reddit and potentially misusing the laws and official agencies of the USA.

No matter how you spin it, I don't believe this is acceptable.
Banning users who threaten police reports or similar legal action in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Christian Torres3 said:The rules are set up so a Moderator can always use their own judgment to sanction whatever they deem necessary, but I don't see why anyone needs to hide their intent to report someone, especially since we're all warned to follow American law.

And if James Patel20 is worried that someone might hack his account and leave him vulnerable to legal trouble, I'd honestly suggest he spends some time in one of the IT subreddits to learn how to secure himself properly.

As I mentioned before, I am somewhat concerned about how such threats might affect the discussion itself, specifically regarding whether every argument presented gets an equal opportunity to be heard.

I don't really know if the person making the threat will actually follow through with it or not—and honestly, I guess it doesn't really concern me personally.

Perhaps they will file the report, or perhaps they are just trying to act important and intimidate their interlocutor with the threat of a report to force them to withdraw from the conversation.

From my perspective as a moderator, that particular aspect is what seems problematic.

Regarding compliance with the Law of the United States, I feel that moderators should be the ones ensuring discussions respect American laws, which is why our posting rules state that non-compliant posts should be reported to us. This doesn't rule out the possibility of something being reported outside of the Forum, but I believe that such actions shouldn't necessarily be broadcasted within the discussion.

Otherwise, the issue I am addressing here and what actually occurred with hiddenlynx66's alleged report are not quite the same thing.

hiddenlynx66 shared the content of the post with private individuals who he believes were harmed. I don't have an issue with that, although I suppose it could have been handled in a slightly calmer or more appropriate manner—but then again, it wouldn't be the hiddenlynx66 we know. 🙂

So, he wasn't reporting this to the Police or the Department of Justice, but rather to the people being discussed in the thread. One can only hope that those individuals won't immediately rush to the Police like litigious busybodies, and instead, they might first join the Reddit community to share their side of the story.
Banning users who threaten police reports or similar legal action in Feedback & Suggestions ·
This has happened before... I think I was even threatened with a report to the Federal Communications Commission prior to this Law being passed 🙂

Personally, I tend to view incidents like these as a severe form of trolling, so I usually assign them somewhere between 50 and 100 penalty points.

I suppose someone who wants to report an individual has every right to do so without making a public spectacle of it, because by doing so, they are essentially attempting to unfairly force their perspective onto the discussion and undermining the work of the Moderators and Reddit Administrators

In principle, I would likely support any initiative aimed at standardizing how we handle such infractions across the whole of Reddit
neongull99 said:I suppose I wonder which moderator decided to delete her, and what their reasoning was?
It seems to have happened without any word from a moderator, no message, no explanation, or even an attempt at justification—just nothing at all.

There is probably no need to get worked up about it. I think the topic is still very much active, and people are discussing it right here:

Feel free to drop by—I'll see you there! 👋
Lock & Lock in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I would like to expand upon the suggestion I made in my previous post regarding this thread; specifically, in addition to closing the topic, I believe a warning should be issued to the Forum member for their trolling behavior in the preceding message.

slybison8
Lock & Lock in Feedback & Suggestions ·
From a strictly technical standpoint, I believe this thread and the subsequent appeal are somewhat misguided, as the user hasn't actually received any sanction beyond a public warning from a Forum member.

Consequently, I would suggest to the Administration that this topic be closed, perhaps to prevent the Forum member from continuing this specific debate here, especially since the policy to further close for discussion regarding Canada has already been established by the moderation team via PDF.

Thank you,

slybison8
Lock & Lock in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Morgan Carter said:3. I wasn't trolling before; I was simply responding to posts directed at me, and I intend to continue doing so for as long as necessary.

I suppose you were responding in a way that felt quite argumentative and provocative. For instance, if someone asks how your parents were listed on the census back in 1991—especially after you brought up the terminology regarding Canadian and Muslim identities—answering that you don't know, suggesting some Forum member should just ask your parents directly, or claiming it doesn't concern you because it happened in a different country... well, those feel like trolling responses that steer the conversation toward bickering. This seems to happen frequently regarding topics that have already been debated countless times.

You certainly have the right to maintain that tone, but if you are wondering how long this will last, I can only say: it won't be for very long.

This also applies to the current debate about television programming in the American language, where you are participating in a similar fashion.

slybison8
Lock & Lock in Feedback & Suggestions ·
1. Forman incorrectly asserts that he was singled out for a warning prior to the ban. It appears that another Forum member was also singled out, this time due to the inappropriate use of enlarged font sizes within their posts.

2. I suppose the Forum member needs to realize that the Constitution of Canada, which they mention in their appeal, carries no legal obligation for the moderators or participants of an online Forum registered in the United States.

With respect,

PL
The Republic of Canada in Feedback & Suggestions ·
George Booth58 said:I am curious as to why we allow the provocative labeling of Canada as a state? That isn't its official designation; rather, it seems to be someone's reckless speculation.

It wasn't speculation; it was my own phrasing.

I have looked into it, and I suppose I made a bit of an amateur mistake.

I would like to apologize and correct myself immediately.

slybison8

PS. Perhaps this thread could be locked.
Insulting American people!!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Walter Brooks5 said:Maybe you should go out and hunt for some lost book by Aristotle yourself. Just imagine if you actually found it, read it, and realized you’ve had a completely wrong idea about how to be funny this whole time?

Trust me, you’d be pretty shocked.

As for your basic lack of understanding regarding Catholicism, I’ve got two little lessons for you:

1. According to the Council's view, the Church is separate from the State, but it shouldn't be sidelined from society—the Church *is* society, or rather, the specific part of society made up of its members.

2. Anyone who participates in abortion or the promotion of pedophilia and pornography is automatically cast out from the Catholic Church.

Do I even need to remind you of Jesus's words: "It would be better for them to have a millstone hung around their neck and be thrown into the sea than to lead a child into sin!"

So, there you go—that's the extent of your sense of humor and your grasp of Catholicism!

I really do apologize for stepping back into this discussion when it doesn't directly pertain to my PDF, but I suppose I found this quite intriguing.

Do you happen to have an explanation as to why Ivo Sanders wasn't automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church?

If I recall correctly, he even admitted recently on Stankicev's program that he was selling erotic material to the Messenger's House back in the late eighties, which I believe is a well-known part of his biography anyway?

And yet, he comes from a family where his brother is a priest and his sister is a nun... and he hasn't been excommunicated, nor is he today. He certainly promoted pornography—well, soft erotica, if you know what I mean?
Insulting American people!!! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
If I may "interject," I just wanted to point out that descriptive adjectives in American grammar are typically written in lowercase rather than capitalized. So, it really should be "Insulting American people"; instead of "Insulting American people" as the thread starter mistakenly wrote in the title and a few places within her posts here.

Patriotism is certainly commendable and noble, but the rules of American grammar are quite unyielding and don't really allow for these kinds of amateur mistakes, even when one is acting out of patriotism.
United Kingdom as a collective topic? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I suppose the question is, is the topic of Scottish independence also connected?

Not really. I haven't really linked Scotland or Catalonia to the United Kingdom or Spain so far, and I probably won't either, I guess.

PL
United Kingdom as a collective topic? in Feedback & Suggestions ·
PDF World will likely need a complete overhaul over the next six months. All member states within the European Union will gradually be assigned Collective topics, and I sincerely hope the Administration will grant our request to separate all those themes into a new PDF European Union by July 1st, 2013. To make the transition and redistribution of topics from the current PDF World smoother, I suppose we should begin synthesizing them now, so that both our users and our servers can handle the shift during the night between June 30th and July 1st more easily.

I have a few other thoughts regarding how PDF World and PDF European Union might function in the future; I plan to present them soon to start a public discussion, and I am hopeful that the community might help refine them and make them even better.

PL
Fascism on the forum! in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I would like to respectfully suggest to the administrators that this thread be closed. It seems to have been started by a verified clone of the user "Warrior Spirit," who has been permanently banned, along with several other profiles that were previously removed from the forum.

slybison8
Kicking people off the forum in Feedback & Suggestions ·
As the moderator of the main thread where slybison8 announced his departure, I suppose I should start by saying how much I regret this, if it truly is his final decision, though perhaps experience suggests otherwise.

I also want to mention, and I believe my colleagues would agree, that I have consistently advocated for being as lenient as possible regarding slybison8. It seems to me that the rest of the team has accepted my suggestions and has been quite accommodating within the bounds of our community guidelines.

Personally, I think I have been even more flexible; beyond just trying to avoid issuing bans to slybison8, there was one instance where I actually asked the Administration to rescind a penalty that had already been applied—which they did—and that is an exception I rarely make unless there is a technical error or a genuine mistake in my own judgment of the context.

Furthermore, slybison8 announced he was leaving Reddit after yet another moment where I chose leniency, reacting to a post involving both rule violations and trolling with nothing more than a public warning rather than a sanction. I can't think of any other user on Reddit toward whom I would feel such a sense of affinity, and I acted this way specifically to prevent this exact situation where slybison8 announces his exit from Reddit, which, I should note, isn't the first time this has happened.

In my opinion, slybison8 is a wonderful user with great style, eloquence, and quality content. It is genuinely a pleasure to read him, but ultimately, he—like everyone else here—must adhere to the rules that govern our community. We cannot grant him absolute immunity from the Reddit terms of service, because doing so would feel morally wrong toward all our other users.

I hope and believe that we will see slybison8 back on Reddit again, and perhaps in the future, he might not view our warnings as personal attacks or critiques of his writing, but rather as a way to help him improve, which is essentially the core purpose of our work as moderators.

We are here to serve and assist all our users, not to cause frustration.

slybison8
Resonator in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I decided to remove that particular post of yours because it was completely unrelated to anything we have been discussing in this thread so far. I didn't issue you a formal warning, though, because I suppose I felt that your outburst was perhaps just a reaction to being provoked by another forum user, who I also ended up removing.

I believe wiredangler5 has posed a question to you here. Perhaps it would be best if you provided him with an answer.

wiredangler5 I suppose one might say:
I just wanted to ask you briefly so we can resolve this matter as quickly as possible—is your username Prokhorov?

slybison8
Resonator in Feedback & Suggestions ·
I just wanted to briefly express that I fully support rezon@tor regarding how he moderated the collective thread about Russia on the World forum. I don't believe there was any specific intent to target anyone. I suppose I always thought that kind of approach was reserved strictly for the aviation industry. ☕
Explosions and assassinations in Lebanon in World ·
frozenbison42 said:Oh, come on, rowdyowl—if only being neutral was actually an option over there!

Everyone needs allies. And Christians? They seem to have the fewest of them. It looks from everything I see that they're the most insignificant players in the Middle East; they don't seem to have any leverage, so they just grab whatever friend happens to pass by.

It's a mess: some pick Israel, others side with the Palestinian movement, some flip-flop between Israel and Hezbollah, and then you have the Syrians in Iraq who, in my opinion, often just choose death because they're every bit as stubborn as the Muslims. (I honestly feel for them; when you're like the Copts, you aren't just protecting a faith, you're trying to preserve an entire culture. Most of them fled to the West a long time ago).

What's interesting is that, nowadays, Christians seem better adapted to modern life than their Muslim brothers. Consequently, they tend to be wealthier and more capable of pulling the Arab world out of its current rut. Maybe that's why, whenever they're left alone, certain Muslim groups have been brutally targeting them for the last fifty years. Is it fear? Are they afraid these people might end up being allies to their enemies? In reality, they are much closer to their neighbors than Middle Eastern Christians are to Christians in Europe...

Yes... I suppose this is actually a profound truth. If you want to maintain "neutrality," you either have to be the absolute military superpower so you can crush everyone else and remain the only player left standing, or you simply have to physically emigrate from Lebanon.

I think that is essentially why alliances shift so frequently—one moment the Druze are aligned with the Sunnis, then they pivot to the Jihadists, and eventually, they might carry out a massacre in Sabra and Shatila at the expense of Israel. Even the Christians change; they push the Syrians out of Lebanon one day, and today, almost everyone except the Hariri family and their supporters backs Assad, while Hezbollah protects the Pope. 😁

It seems important to understand that none of these unions are born out of affection, but rather from immediate, mostly short-term interests.

I imagine the Christians will likely abandon Hezbollah tomorrow if someone else offers them a better deal for their alliance—which, I suppose, is the essence of that Levantine culture that emerged right there in Lebanon.

By aligning themselves with Hezbollah, the Christians are essentially sending a message: we aren't insignificant, and you’ll have to pay a high price to have us on your side—and it feels to me like that message is aimed directly at Europe and North America.

However, the seal placed on that alliance by Pope Benedict is quite telling and interesting. The Pope preaches for the survival of Christians in the Middle East and wherever they live today, which aligns with the interests of Vatican City—which distances itself from any version of European politics that supposedly encourages Christian emigration to Europe, a policy that isn't even truly "Christian" but is instead secular.

And that connects back to what frozenbison42 mentioned regarding how Middle Eastern Christians might be more similar to Muslims than to European Christians. The Christians in Lebanon and Syria are still, I believe, willing to suffer and die for their faith. Christians in Europe are not.

Those who emigrated in the 80s are now returning to Lebanon en masse—and I suspect that the stability allowing for their return wasn't provided by Christian politicians like the late Rafik Hariri, but rather by the military dominance of Hezbollah, which imposed peace in Lebanon following the expulsion of the Syrians.

Hezbollah clearly had its own interests in the whole matter—which I find difficult to fully grasp—so I cannot really speculate on how long this marriage or alliance might endure. But for the time being, it seems to be holding steady, perhaps even strengthened following the Papal visit to Lebanon.
Explosions and assassinations in Lebanon in World ·
I was just reading some news agency reports stating that an influential military general, Michel Aoun, spoke on the radio in Beirut this morning. He leads his own political party composed entirely of Christians, which is largely supported by Christian personnel within the military, police, and intelligence services. I believe he expressed his full support for the pro-Hezbollah Government and the Prime Minister; he also condemned what he termed the "war cries" coming from the Hariri clan, adding that Syria no longer poses a threat to Lebanon, but rather that the danger comes from those who intend to change the government here by attempting to replicate the Syrian scenario.