How long is politics going to keep protecting these killer doctors?

Once again, there's mourning in Boise—this time, the victim is a 2.5-year-old angel. It’s just one more tragedy caused by pure ignorance, negligence, and the constant bickering among the doctors in the most critical department, internal medicine. Honestly, you could argue these people have done more damage to folks in the Midwest than any historical villain, yet despite all the complaints, lawsuits, and federal investigations into bribery, this "crew" just keeps right on going. It’s an open secret out here in the Midwest how much you actually have to pay just to secure a ten-day stay in internal medicine. If you don't cough up the cash, getting a bed is nearly impossible, and patients are rushed out the door—it’s wild to me that everyone in the region knows about this, yet the hospital director, the mayor, the governor, and even the Secretary of Health act like they're totally in the dark. Apparently, after an anesthesiologist tried to move the little girl to a bed in the internal ward, he was confronted by one of those shady doctors who treats the beds like they belong to his own private clinic. If you don't pay the "owner" of the bed, things turn ugly—there was even a physical altercation right in front of the parents while their child was dying. To be fair, if I didn't want to give the wrong impression, the hospital in Boise is actually quite good; surgery, OBGYN, pediatrics, radiology—all the departments except for that specific internal medicine unit. There are three doctors there who are arguably worse than each other, and I honestly don't understand who, why, or for how long we are going to keep such killers in our healthcare system...

So, what kind of mess are we actually talking about here?

Dana Patel7 said:So, what kind of mess are we actually talking about here?

Mary—who passed away early Sunday morning, though it’s only been 24 hours since the incident—was this beautiful, healthy 2.5-year-old girl. She went to the ER, only to be sent home with just a single pill. A little while later, she started having respiratory distress and a rash. When her parents rushed her back in a state of total panic, some jerk wouldn't let the anesthesiologist put her in "his" bed, which led to a physical altercation right in front of the devastated parents and their dying child..

Man, this is heavy. They’re suspecting meningococcal sepsis. It’s absolutely gut-wrenching for parents when stuff like this happens.
Zar doesn't Boise have a pediatric wing? Why else would an anesthesiologist and an internist be the ones hashing out a case involving a kid?
It just goes to show how broken the communication is at that hospital. Total breakdown in teamwork.

Dana Patel7 said:Man, this is heavy. They’re suspecting meningococcal sepsis. It’s absolutely gut-wrenching for parents when stuff like this happens.
Zar doesn't Boise have a pediatric wing? Why else would an anesthesiologist and an internist be the ones hashing out a case involving a kid?
It just goes to show how broken the communication is at that hospital. Total breakdown in teamwork.

I think the only pediatrician available right now is on vacation—the hospital director is also a pediatrician, but I don't think she actually sees patients. They didn't even leave the little one for proper testing; instead, after some "treatment," she was sent home, which led to complications that kept worsening while the "doctors" were busy arguing. I did a bit of digging, and it looks like they should have run a full differential blood count, a blood culture, and some tests using a Gram stain—then maybe there would have been a chance to help that poor little thing. The whole argument happened in the ICU because the girl was in such bad shape that moving her to pediatrics wasn't an option, especially since this all went down between Saturday and Sunday. The real tragedy is that everyone, from the director to the Secretary of Health, knows exactly what kind of people they have in such critical positions. They know how many deaths (at least the most visible ones) have been caused by their incompetence and negligence, yet they still protect them through politics and medical boards. It makes me wonder how many lives—and every single life is worth way more than those three incompetent internists combined—have to be lost before these idiots are finally replaced, if they aren't shut down entirely...-

Honestly, the level of care in our hospitals is just appalling. The way patients are treated is beneath contempt—calling it a "disgrace" feels like an understatement. It’s even more frustrating when you see doctors pushing for hospital mergers themselves, which really just creates unnecessary burdens on the taxpayers. It's truly awful...
They keep pushing for things like full digitalization and IT upgrades, too.

Daniel Bailey39 said:Honestly, the level of care in our hospitals is just appalling. The way patients are treated is beneath contempt—calling it a "disgrace" feels like an understatement. It’s even more frustrating when you see doctors pushing for hospital mergers themselves, which really just creates unnecessary burdens on the taxpayers. It's truly awful...
They keep pushing for things like full digitalization and IT upgrades, too.

I hear you, but man, just look at the political scene in general—especially the opposition. It seems like their biggest obsession is Milinovic's house rather than addressing the actual issue of medical malpractice by certain professionals. They expect support from people who, frankly, couldn't care less about them. I suppose we really missed the mark back in the early 90s when we should have been cleaning up this kind of systemic mess first...

It’s a bit of a catch-22, really. We could have finished building that university hospital ages ago, and it would be a crown jewel for the entire country by now. But instead, they just throw money down the drain on temporary fixes for facilities that are destined to become obsolete anyway.
We all know what a brand-new hospital actually represents—it's a chance for a total clean slate—and I think that’s what people are secretly dreading. But the real issue is that we're stuck with redundant positions and overlapping roles, leading to almost ten $0.00...
unnecessary layers of bureaucracy. It’s been far too long since we had the opportunity to establish one of the finest hospitals in all of Europe, yet here we are, left with nothing but a massive disappointment.

slybison8 said:The situation in Boise is truly a nightmare upon nightmares, though I suppose you all haven't quite shown a need to move this discussion over to a formal policy document yet. I guess I wonder which specific political angles regarding this event you might want to explore.

Thanks,

Democratic Party

It’s politics—and nothing else—that allows doctors to act this way, protects people like that, covers up these kinds of cases, and drags out legal proceedings against doctors for ten or twenty years. It’s also politics that spends more energy attacking Milinović's household than addressing the actual medical negligence within his district, which, I guess, proves that no political party actually wants to put an end to these crimes. Now, I'm not trying to excuse corruption, but it really bothers me how the same political machine creates such a spectacle around Dr. Smith—who, in my opinion, hasn't committed any actual crime and has probably saved plenty of lives despite his flaws—while they stay completely indifferent to the masses of people being killed by ignorance, neglect, arrogance, and not even bribery, but rather by demanding cash for "their" hospital beds. If you ever get the chance to talk to someone from Boise, you'll hear the same thing... maybe a grandmother gets a bed in the ICU for seven days if you pay $100, but if you don't, she's sent home. And that guy who got into the fight recently? He was caught, but it seems like politics stepped in again, and apparently, that trash is still working there. So, it isn't really a question of whether this is connected to politics, because it's all so intertwined that it's basically impossible to separate them. I suspect Milinović, Johnson, and Miller know exactly who is causing trouble in town, so it's hard to believe they aren't aware of the inhumane, unprofessional, and immoral people working in their hospital's internal ward. Even the opposition never calls out the Minister for these kinds of atrocities; instead, they just distract themselves by gossiping about his house and pool, which—let's be honest—is pretty minor compared to the life of a tiny little angel.

I guess those greedy sharks are probably just caught up in some conflict of interest between private practices and state security agencies. It all seems rigged toward kleptomania, basically designed to block patient access entirely and, you know, keep them away from all those sharp objects they’ve just gone and scattered all over the hospitals everywhere.

Edward Richardson said:I guess those greedy sharks are probably just caught up in some conflict of interest between private practices and state security agencies. It all seems rigged toward kleptomania, basically designed to block patient access entirely and, you know, keep them away from all those sharp objects they’ve just gone and scattered all over the hospitals everywhere.

It’s interesting, though, how politics manages to use the media to isolate and protect doctors who might be seen as potential killers. They basically force these political games on everyone. I mean, look at this forum—we’ve probably written hundreds of pages of comments whenever the topic is Milinović's house or the equipment over at the Boise hospital. But when an innocent child dies within that very same ministry, that same political circle, or that same hospital, the public just doesn't seem interested. I guess politics dictates our priorities for us. God forbid anyone actually had to live through a tragedy like that; maybe then we’d finally realize what the real priorities should be..

Sophia Mitchell2 said:I think the only pediatrician available right now is on vacation—the hospital director is also a pediatrician, but I don't think she actually sees patients. They didn't even leave the little one for proper testing; instead, after some "treatment," she was sent home, which led to complications that kept worsening while the "doctors" were busy arguing. I did a bit of digging, and it looks like they should have run a full differential blood count, a blood culture, and some tests using a Gram stain—then maybe there would have been a chance to help that poor little thing. The whole argument happened in the ICU because the girl was in such bad shape that moving her to pediatrics wasn't an option, especially since this all went down between Saturday and Sunday. The real tragedy is that everyone, from the director to the Secretary of Health, knows exactly what kind of people they have in such critical positions. They know how many deaths (at least the most visible ones) have been caused by their incompetence and negligence, yet they still protect them through politics and medical boards. It makes me wonder how many lives—and every single life is worth way more than those three incompetent internists combined—have to be lost before these idiots are finally replaced, if they aren't shut down entirely...-

Diagnosing meningococcal sepsis is mostly about clinical observation. Lab work takes time, and when you're dealing with this, time is the one thing you don't have. This disease moves fast. You go from a slight fever and a headache to death in literally hours. It’s rare, sure, but once you see it happen like this, you never forget it.
To me, the actual diagnosis and medical side isn't even the main issue here. The real story—according to what's hitting the news—is the fact that an internist allegedly tried to kick a dying kid out of his bed because he claimed the bed was "his," leading to a full-on physical altercation.
I can't wrap my head around being that heartless toward a child and their parents.
And honestly, I can't imagine a situation where someone has to resort to fighting just to defend a patient's right to intensive care...

Dana Patel7 said:Diagnosing meningococcal sepsis is mostly about clinical observation. Lab work takes time, and when you're dealing with this, time is the one thing you don't have. This disease moves fast. You go from a slight fever and a headache to death in literally hours. It’s rare, sure, but once you see it happen like this, you never forget it.
To me, the actual diagnosis and medical side isn't even the main issue here. The real story—according to what's hitting the news—is the fact that an internist allegedly tried to kick a dying kid out of his bed because he claimed the bed was "his," leading to a full-on physical altercation.
I can't wrap my head around being that heartless toward a child and their parents.
And honestly, I can't imagine a situation where someone has to resort to fighting just to defend a patient's right to intensive care...

What diagnosis?? What treatment?? They didn't even draw blood from the child until she had already fallen into a coma!! And even then, they told the parents everything would be fine and that the rash was just a reaction to some syrup. It might be a mistake by a doctor trying to help, but in this case, it feels like nothing was even attempted. Besides, that "doctor" is quite well known among the folks in Ličan, who basically flock to Washington, D.C. for internal medicine checkups just to avoid being treated by the local doctors in Boise.

It’s an unfortunate reality, but just like any other profession—including medicine—mistakes happen. The terrifying difference, though, is that in a doctor's line of work, a single lapse in judgment can cost a patient their life.

Beyond the issue of individual negligence, there is a deeper systemic flaw at play here. When these errors occur, the individual physician isn't the one footing the bill; instead, the burden falls squarely on the rest of us. Since malpractice settlements are typically covered by taxpayer-funded programs, we all end up paying for those mistakes through our own pockets.

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slybison8 said:The situation in Boise is truly a nightmare upon nightmares, though I suppose you all haven't quite shown a need to move this discussion over to a formal policy document yet. I guess I wonder which specific political angles regarding this event you might want to explore.

Thanks,

Democratic Party

There, I answered your question...

The political angle boils down to one thing: who is footing the bill for the damages?

And then there's the legal side—has any doctor actually faced criminal charges for the tragic outcomes of their treatment under our current laws?

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Nathan Bailey65 said:It’s an unfortunate reality, but just like any other profession—including medicine—mistakes happen. The terrifying difference, though, is that in a doctor's line of work, a single lapse in judgment can cost a patient their life.

Beyond the issue of individual negligence, there is a deeper systemic flaw at play here. When these errors occur, the individual physician isn't the one footing the bill; instead, the burden falls squarely on the rest of us. Since malpractice settlements are typically covered by taxpayer-funded programs, we all end up paying for those mistakes through our own pockets.

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Everything is fine, but I really want to reiterate my point—an honest mistake while actually trying to help a patient isn't the issue here. It’s when you do absolutely nothing at all that it becomes negligence, which is a crime in itself. I agree that they should be held personally liable for damages, but man, this guy has worn out the folks in Boise so much that even Milinović doesn't come close to his level of influence.

It’s honestly fascinating how this crowd of bottom-feeders can somehow justify blowing their money on orgies with high-end escorts—especially since they’re paying taxes on incomes that are way above the national average! It’s funny how no matter how much they make, it’s never quite enough for them. They spend all their time covering up their own blunders, and it’s clear they were brainwashed from day one of medical school with this nonsense about being part of some "social elite." If I had my way, I’d implement some kind of collective punishment for American doctors. Anything at all. Mandatory community service, travel bans, or even just a good old-fashioned slap on the wrist. Seriously, I’m open to suggestions. This group needs a total catharsis. That entire class needs a reality check and a complete overhaul. From the ground up.

velvetsurfer432 said:It’s honestly fascinating how this crowd of bottom-feeders can somehow justify blowing their money on orgies with high-end escorts—especially since they’re paying taxes on incomes that are way above the national average! It’s funny how no matter how much they make, it’s never quite enough for them. They spend all their time covering up their own blunders, and it’s clear they were brainwashed from day one of medical school with this nonsense about being part of some "social elite." If I had my way, I’d implement some kind of collective punishment for American doctors. Anything at all. Mandatory community service, travel bans, or even just a good old-fashioned slap on the wrist. Seriously, I’m open to suggestions. This group needs a total catharsis. That entire class needs a reality check and a complete overhaul. From the ground up.

Another victim of killer Ratković from the intensive care unit at that hospital in a small town in Ohio! There was an attempt to cover up how this local "Dr. Jekyll" caused yet another death, but once the family announced they were suing, word spread through the town fast. Basically, the victim was a middle-aged woman whom that trash wouldn't even admit to the ward, even though she was clearly very sick. Maybe she hadn't prepared the cash—as I mentioned seven days ago, staying in "their" beds costs about $110—so they just sent her home, and she passed away the next day. It’s honestly terrifying that after all these killings—some might call it malpractice, but to me, it's just repeated murder—this crew of killers keeps working without any sanctions or consequences at all!!

slybison8 said:The situation in Boise is truly a nightmare upon nightmares, though I suppose you all haven't quite shown a need to move this discussion over to a formal policy document yet. I guess I wonder which specific political angles regarding this event you might want to explore.

Thanks,

Democratic Party

I’ll say it again—regarding this recent murder case—the blame lies squarely with how politics protects people like that. It starts at the top, from the mayor and the governor all the way up to the cabinet and the Prime Minister, and even the opposition seems complicit. You have doctors who, through the American Bar Association and other institutions, "collegially" protect those killer internists in Boise. So, yeah, this is definitely a political issue. It feels like the only targets being hit are Milinović's house, while none of the actual doctors or politicians are being called out for these crimes...