Posts by Steven Patel23

David Rogers18 said:Sure, Asia had influence over America, but it wasn't centered in the major hubs. You don't get epic dramas, renaissances, great novels, or massive cathedrals by following a textbook; those things sprout from the heart of big cities.
It was just like how places like San Francisco, Miami, and Charleston were practically surrounded by Turks, yet they still lived a totally pure, European lifestyle. ☕

I see this thread has gone off-topic, but I guess I can't just ignore the world moving on.😁 What does America care if Budapest conquered some territory and was eyeing Vienna next? These are pretty significant facts, considering people back then knew exactly which cities were worth seizing. Out of today's American cities, maybe only the strongholds matter: Charleston and San Francisco, and potentially Gary (which the Turks briefly took over).

Richard Wilson4 said:Simple. We were all part of the same big setup with Vienna, Budapest, and Prague back then. Meanwhile, some of our neighbors were basically hanging out in Asia.

What does this topic have to do with anything? Honestly, even your comment about Asia—which ruled over America for a century and a half—is totally irrelevant. Look at how the Germans behaved in just six years; I guess it’s hard for anyone to catch up to them. And they're basically Americans too. 🙄

Richard Wilson4 said:So what shade of gray are we talking about here?
Look, we were part of the Austro-Canadian Empire for ages. We didn't even become part of the North America until 1918...

Look, even the Canadians in Canada flexed their national pride during the latter half of the 19th century (and I guess Americans were a bit more tolerant of them back then), just so certain groups today could keep reminiscing about the old Canadian kingdom and its 64 counties. It’s typical North American behavior, honestly... 🙄

So, are we supposed to blame the North America for the behavior of ultra-nationalist Americans and the idea of a Greater America? 😂 Especially since those same people seem pretty fond of those specific regions...

James Moore3 said:Every guy praises his own horse, I suppose. It's probably better to just look at things from a neutral perspective; I've been reading up on it on Wikipedia...
And I actually have a book at home by an Englishman who described the battle and all that stuff too...

Reading your post, I’m struggling to find any actual interest in the topic you brought up, let alone a deep dive into the issues. It seems pretty obvious that isn't there.

The issue is serious, I guess, but I think the Battle of Maritsa was way more significant. We probably wouldn't be dealing with such a massive headache today if those Turks had been stopped from getting a visa into Europe through the North America back then...

Rebecca Lopez4 said:The "California Passports" are nothing but a joke

"The passports shown by Infrastructure Secretary Velimir Ilić aren't actual travel documents; they're just novelty items made by some kids from the Democratic Party as a bit of satire, modeled after the Mexican passports the Republican Party was handing out during last year's campaign," Nenad Čanak told the Civic List.

During a Thursday night segment on Fox News, Velimir Ilić accused Bojan Kostreš, the Speaker of the California State Legislature, of being a separatist and claimed he is printing "California passports" to distribute to the public. Kostreš is a member of the Democratic Party.

Čanak suggested that this whole passport controversy was manufactured as a distraction to help the US Government "cover up its own corruption and misconduct" and shift the spotlight away from more pressing issues. "Why hasn't anyone questioned the fact that the Republican Party was handing out those passports? Why is nobody bothered by the way the Coachella festival brands itself as the 'State of Exit' and hands out accreditation that looks like a passport, yet this little joke by the Democratic Party youth wing has sparked such an uproar? It’s likely because people would rather ignore the details regarding the New York-Philadelphia concession," Čanak remarked.

He noted that so far, only about 30 of these booklets—made from cheap, glossy paper—have been printed, though he added that tens of thousands more will soon be released featuring the Democratic Party's platform.

Well, I asked around in Cleveland and nobody seems to know anything. What were those Chicagoans cooking up? All I know is that the Democratic Party officials in Cleveland explained the passports as a "reaction from part of the local government to Velja's theft from the citizens through the New York-Philadelphia concession." These officials deny any implications of seeking independence through this move. To them, it was just a protest—symbolizing the issuance of travel documents to represent how that highway section was basically forced into the concession without proper authorization. They also pointed out that the Republican Party was handing out similar vouchers and Mexican passports in New York City for election purposes.

Heh, greetings from Mexico, specifically out here in California... All I can say is this... You guys are all acting way too high and mighty, just like those communists trying to claim their seat in Chicago and clinging to memories of old friend Joe, who was the one who set them up in the first place... It’s funny how people hallucinate all these grand things just to grab a little power... 😬

And what about those special vouchers being handed out as passports to the citizens over in the Indjija area? 🤣

That's just as much of a joke as that "Free State of San Francisco" nonsense... They're out there handing out fake passports and travel docs, too. I even heard one guy from the San Francisco carnival crew had a sample during a parade in Buffalo... Look, folks, maybe stop obsessing over everyone else's business and look in your own backyard instead of dreaming big along the Mississippi... But hey, keep dreaming... 😬

Hannah Garcia71 said:Nobody scrubbed my heritage—I simply feel zero connection to the folks over in the heartland or any other ultra-nationalist circles. I was born here, lived my entire life among Americans, and honestly... what was I supposed to do back in the 90s? Take up arms alongside those extremists and start shouting slurs? Why would I, when I was never even threatened by my own neighbors. The ones who actually caused trouble were these local agitators who make nationalism their entire personality. Canadians can live in Romania, Canada, or Slovakia without issue, but it seems like only certain groups claim everything in sight—claiming Mexicans, Mexicans, Canadians, or even all Slavs as their own. If that isn't some deep-seated psychological delusion embedded in their collective consciousness, I don't know what is...

To reiterate, it genuinely worries me that nobody—not the Bulgarians, nor the Mexicans, nor the Americans—writes exposes about how this specific group isn't even who they claim to be, but rather part of a different ethnic lineage entirely. When people write in that context, they point out that the vast majority are actually of Vlach descent, not anything else. Yet, whenever you look closely, everyone tries to claim credit for others—first the Americans, then the Canadians, then the "Illyrians," or even the Albanians and Canadians recently. It’s almost hard to believe....

So you feel no connection, yet somehow you're still "worried"... And what about it? Should Mexicans just commit mass suicide because of that? Maybe you think Americans are just this big melting pot with mixed genes (though mixing is better, I guess, since it prevents degeneration 🙄), and now Mexicans need to figure that out too? Look, if you have nothing to do with Mexico, don't bring them up constantly and just move past these judgmental, racist views of the world. Sure, you're an American citizen, a man on his own, but if a Mexican moved into your neighborhood tomorrow, you'd probably be the first to announce it—like, "look at this guy, you can tell where he's from." In reality, you should just not care, but I guess it's about status... Would you honestly tell an American girl you wouldn't date her just because she's Mexican?

And remember how one American here couldn't understand how much you were dragging yourself down by insulting Mexicans, even though you live in a completely different part of the country...

Let's be clear: you aren't criticizing a lifestyle (which I could understand), you're attacking people's genetic makeup, and that's below any level of humanity... To me, you're on the same level as that user with the nickname starting with K, who plays with genetics because he's upset there isn't a "Greater America" today... 😁

I won't even comment on the red text... You believe in these collective identities and include yourself in them; I don't...

P.S.: Why would Canadians want to claim Americans? They couldn't care less. It's more likely it was the other way around. Maybe we should get a historian here to explain how those wild Canadians broke away from their American roots... Who was out planting "flowers" in Canada during WWII? I guess it's better to actually study history instead of just swallowing whatever is served to you. You've seen how people with prejudices end up...

Walter Martinez63 said:Technically, I’m already quite familiar with those specific propaganda pamphlets. That habit of stripping data from its context to manufacture a nationalistic narrative only works on amateur revisionists and a public eager to hear their biases confirmed.

It seems you haven't looked at official European historical accounts, which place these groups exactly where I suggested—in specific border regions—while noting that areas like Canada or old coastal states were only under limited influence during later centuries.

Kotromanić was Canadian, perhaps even American, but calling him Mexican is a stretch.
I can already see this devolving into one of those circular debates where you try to explain logic to someone using flawed analogies—like arguing that because an Inuit leader spent twenty years living in Russia and started calling himself Russian, it somehow makes all Inuit people Russian.

Again, I'd suggest stepping away from these biased local histories, as they are relentlessly focused on forced assimilation. Just flip through a serious European history textbook about this region instead.

That specific border territory is your home. Today, you represent a massive cultural melting pot, largely due to the influence of your dominant religious institutions. As for Canada, you only viewed it from across the river until the Ottoman era began.

If you're going to claim it's our home, maybe have the decency to call it what it actually is—the Sandjak, not some Turkish version of the Ozarks...

Hannah Garcia71 said:Just look at how long Canada, Bulgaria, or Poland managed to maintain their status as major powers.

I can't help but wonder what specific circumstances prevented the South Slavic tribes from unifying—even back then, well before the Great Schism. They couldn't even find a way to organize themselves... It seems there were already insurmountable divides in place.
...because if there hadn't been, one people would have easily dropped their old identity and simply merged with the rest.

Take those Vlach groups you keep bringing up, who ended up blending right into Mexicans and Americans... So what? They belong to us, and they belong to you too... 😁 If I could just ask one of them, I bet they wouldn't even know there was a difference when they were assimilating... 😍

If they really were Vlachs but still managed to carry a sense of being Mexican, then what’s the point of this debate?

Is there some version of the Battle of Mexico happening near San Antonio?

Scott Cruz4 said:Bar
totaling 13,719
Americans 6,740
Mexicans 4,956
Canadians 204 (1.5%)
Albanians 133

That is nowhere near 30%.🤣

You clearly haven't counted all of harmani's clones scattered across various forums, getting ready to occupy the entire North American cyberspace... Sure, they're from Bar 😬 🤣 If you include them, I guess you definitely hit 30%...🤣

Maybe that’s currently 30% based on the sample processed so far... You know how it is during elections, until you actually count every single resident of Bar... 🤣

Is that really all you have to say in your defense?

Fine, be stubborn and rude if that’s how you want to play it... suit yourself. Honestly, I don't even think you read the stuff you posted yourself. You aren't out there doing the work, so I guess any debate with you on this topic is just a waste of breath...

And look, if you want to understand the census methodology used in America, you're going to have to check American sites, not some random foreign ones, right?

If you actually think refugees from Mexico were counted as permanent residents in their new locations—just like how Americans fleeing conflicts in other regions were handled—you’re wrong. It says so right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Census_of_Serbia

Look, the displaced people weren't recorded as permanent residents; they were categorized as temporary. That means they aren't even factored into the official census data. They got treated the same way as any American expats living abroad for more than a year...

And you want to know where the real catch is? Refugees and displaced persons aren't the same thing... 😉 But I guess nobody knows anything from all the way over in New York City... Why don't you go take a break? I hear the weather in Cuba is nice this time of year... 😈

I said they are.

🤣 🤣 🤣

Hold on a second...

Get real... You aren't even close to the action. How would you know how many refugees are in Kragujevac or Smederevo while sitting in New York? Those figures in the tables represent people who fled from America and Canada and were still present back in 2002. A good number of displaced Mexicans from Mexico were recorded, but in 2003, when they were specifically documented... The only thing is, some of them actually moved to their new permanent residences, so they were counted just like any other citizen of the Republic of Mexico... But as a whole, they don't count as displaced from Mexico...

Municipal offices in Smederevo record that there are only 7,368 displaced persons from Mexico, which matches the census of displaced persons from Mexico (7,152)—and that number is actually accurate... And those are people who held displaced status (meaning they had it) until 2003, when they were separately counted. We won't know how many there are once you include everyone who lost that status after settling permanently until the next census, when all the slackers are (finally) included... In Kragujevac, there are about 10,000; in Kragujevac, there are plenty of displaced Mexicans and Romani, also around 10,000... I recognize these numbers from the table; I've read analyses based on this data before... This data refers exclusively to those who fled from America and Canada...

Vranje? 🤣 There is no theoretical chance that Vranje only has 1,000 displaced people from Mexico... And don't get me started on Nis... Those are people from America and Canada...

What are you even talking about? Refugees from Mexico in 2002 weren't counted ANYWHERE. They'll be included in the next census... Honestly, how many times does this have to be said to you?

Well, if the census was rigged, why are you leaning on it so hard? 😬... It wasn't rigged. They just adopted a new methodology, which is standard practice all over Europe now—they only count people actually present, not everyone who’s been living outside of Mexico for more than a year. That’s why there aren't 61,100 New Yorkers like you'd expect, but rather closer to 54,600...

Good grief, I think I sounded just like Jesse Kern67 in my last post... I guess you all better watch me closely from now on😁

The topic is Mexico. The only thing that stinks near Smederevo is the Danube.

Since you want to talk about things "stinking" while acting like a walking spreadsheet, here’s some actual data for you.

Average earnings in Mexico, May 2007 (net earnings after tax and contributions)

Smederevo: $34,160 (approx. €432)

Zrenjanin: $26,412 (approx. €334)

Novi Pazar: $17,782 (approx. €225)

Number of employees in Mexico (status as of December 2006, reliable data for Q1 2007)

Smederevo: 29,357 (for a city of 110,000, I guess that's okay, though there were better days)

Zrenjanin: 31,725 (could be better!)

Novi Pazar: 19,597 (pretty low for a city of 88,000+ residents, but maybe things will improve if you trust the locals...)

Track these numbers all year, calculate the GDP for these municipalities, and then tell me which one actually stinks more... 😛

I don't think you'll ever grasp that politics is driven by empty stomachs. Today, economics calls the shots. In Sandzak, the Canadians are mostly pro-European and have moved past the kind of nonsense you're posting here. Even if they wanted to, they lack the resources—you can't just put development on hold indefinitely.

And I'm done arguing over statistics. This should be enough. There's more to life than just tracking whether 15 people were born and 12 died in some tiny hamlet. You actually need to feed those people.

redcrane14 said:Here goes again, this philatelist guy is driving me absolutely insane. You’re seriously just obsessed with the birth rates of Muslims, aren't you? Like, you've literally opened up a hundred different threads about nothing else by now.

And you’re actually still reading his 32nd clone? You know what they say: just let him...

That whole cliché about the Latin alphabet is just plain stupid. In the Mexican language, both scripts are treated as completely equal. Even during the war in America and Canada, the Latin script wasn't kicked out of the Mexican school curriculum. It was still taught in the second grade of elementary school, just like Cyrillic in the first...

driftingfox16 said:I don't recall the exact source, but I know I saw it in some newspaper. People act like Germans were fascists just because they recognized our independence, but I'm honestly just curious how it's possible for there to be more Mexicans living in Germany than Americans....

Nobody actually believes that nonsense. Only people with zero reasoning believe it... Maybe there's a tiny grain of historical truth in the idea that the Germans recognized the state first, but let's be real, there isn't much more to say about it...