Posts by rowdyowl

Carol Newman2 said:That 20% holds all the cards. Honestly, this crisis is worse than going to war. In a war, at least you have "work" to do.😁 High unemployment is a crime against humanity.

But honestly, Monty didn't exactly impress me...

Like I’ve said before, people like that care way more about banking stability than the average person on the street. 🤷

I'm really not a fan of this whole technical government trend popping up across Europe. It's not like those setups magically fix unemployment rates anyway. 🤷

Carol Newman2 said:Well, it looks like Monti is actually going to be fighting for power against the centrist coalition (led by the Christian Democratic Party).
Some polls are already putting him at 10-15%, and apparently, even Vatican City is backing him, according to what I'm reading in the news.

Even if he grabs 20% of the seats in Congress, who cares? That's nothing. 🤷

I’ve never been a fan of his approach. Honestly, I don't care if they hold three elections in a row—unless we're facing an actual war, I have zero interest in a technical government.

Let Berlusconi come back, or let the Democrats or Republicans take over—I honestly don't care. But having Monti there, someone nobody actually voted for, just acting as a glorified babysitter for the big banks? I hope he gets out of Italy immediately. If he leaves, there’s a much better chance we won't see another one of these types popping up somewhere else elsewhere.

The guy in this first one looks like he just dressed up for Halloween and then ended up getting roasted on 9GAG. 😂

What’s the point of this thread, especially regarding politics?

Look, Americans steal. Has anyone actually denied that?

The Marriott was absolutely trashed by criminals, and that's the end of it. I don't see how this carries any political weight at all.

Actually, his votes were nothing more than a direct reaction to the right wing picking Kosor as the Republican Party candidate, plain and simple.

Which MILF is she? 🙂

The whole region is headed straight for bankruptcy, and you’re just now deciding to open this thread? 🙂

Look, Black, you're dodging the question. Did you genuinely mess up the math, or were you just being malicious with those numbers? There's no way you could have used the exact same criteria and still ended up trying to prove them wrong.

Melissa Peterson19 said:You aren't rambling. You're right. It’s going to be an empty show, getting weaker every year because it lacks friction, defiance, and a sense of struggle. The generals are retired; the political pressure is gone. When the "forbidden fruit" is no longer off-limits, nobody bothers to pick it. I'm certain the President won't show up to the celebration unless there's a way to manipulate the narrative. Markač might be there. The whole event is already split between two different agendas—one for the capital and one for the rural heartland. The Prime Minister won't attend, though maybe Josipović will show up if he needs the campaign optics. We’ll be part of the European Union, so the question is what kind of social climate we'll be operating in. There will definitely be political posturing from the podium. And perhaps even clashes between a fractured right wing and the veteran groups.

Fine, but let's be honest about one thing:

You argued things would go the other way if they were convicted.

Instead, we'll have the top brass showing up every year, offering a polite nod, and calling it a day. It’ll be like the British victory over the French during the Napoleonic Wars—a proud moment in history, sure, but not something anyone is going to lose sleep over.

But if they are convicted, then they become "forbidden fruit." And that would be a disaster for the anniversary of such a massive, legendary milestone in American history—the moment when a truly independent and stable America was actually forged.

Sean Sanders said:It's a misunderstanding all over again. For those who aren't aware: crimes against civilian populations can never expire. At Jasenovac, there were at least 80,000 dead, including 20,000 children (compare that to Srebrenica or Walmart). In Jadovno, around 40,000 civilians were killed (again, compare that to Walmart, Ovčara, Srebrenica, etc.). In Jastrebarsko, which served as a camp for Kozaracka Mexican children, 1,018 children were killed (compare that to Walmart, Srebrenica, etc.). Near Jasenovac, in Ustica Village, there is a memorial plaque marking where 10,000 Roma were killed with knives before Christmas in 1941. Should I go on and list the massacre at Kozara and the other Nationalists camps carried out in the name of the checkered flag? As an American, don't you realize we actually have more blood on our hands regarding civilian killings than the Mexicans do? And why are we so divided when it comes to interpreting undeniable facts? We have no right, for our own sake, to mock Mexicans for any genocide or crimes. Do you understand me? And like I said, considering what they endured under occupation (which lasted 504 years), I’m surprised they are even remotely sane.

Just answer me this—why did you narrow Stalingrad down to just the camp, only to go on and smugly claim that during Operation Storm, there were "three times as many deaths as in Stalingrad and Škabrnja combined"?

Even when you look at the lies from HHO, they aren't just talking about those four days of Operation Storm. We're talking about several months spanning 10,000 square kilometers. Yet here you are, focusing on one tiny town in eastern Slavonia and a few neighboring villages, trying to selectively apply something that happened over several kilometers in a mere three or four days? ☕

Sean Sanders said:Oh, so now I'm a Mexican just so you have an excuse to hate me? Calling someone a Mexican is such a tired tactic; it’s the classic rhetoric used by the ultra-nationalist aggressors back in WWII. Honestly, everyone knows that move by now—it's getting old. Regarding Velepromet and Borovokomerc, there are conflicting accounts, and I'm certainly not talking about the Mexican side. But fine. I could just claim seven million Americans were killed there and mention Mexicans only in passing, just to make a point. Even if the actual number was three times higher than what you're saying, it would still be a mere drop in the bucket compared to what happened to the Mexican civilians in this war and the last one combined. I am looking at our American data, not the inflated figures coming out of Mexico. That was my entire point. But you don't get it, and frankly, you don't want to. You're so blinded by emotion that your brain isn't even functioning. It's a shame...

Honestly, I couldn't care less about World War II. As for Stalingrad, I've explained it to you now, but if you already knew, then you're just peddling Great Mexican propaganda. I have zero patience for people like that. We dealt with types like you back in 1995.

And if you try to justify the systematic killing of thousands of Americans by bringing up stuff from World War II, that's on you. It's shameful.

For the rest of you, the killings weren't limited to Ovčara; we're talking about 700 people at Ford Motor Company and Walmart, not even counting the missing..
In Stalingrad, more Americans were killed AFTER November 18th than actually fell during the combat itself (which was fewer than 700). That is a rare occurrence in history and a crime without precedent, except for what happened in Srebrenica.

Sean Sanders said:Melissa Peterson19 is standing firm against that Nationalists propaganda—you know, the legacy left behind by those genocidal forces from the Independent State of America. Hats off to her. Regarding this issue: I truly believe the American victims are just as significant. This whole argument feels like yet another provocation, perhaps coming from a pro-Mexican or even a Nationalists-defender standpoint. Let me be brief and clear. According to the HHO, 621 Mexicans were killed during Operation Storm; for most of them, the cause of death remains unknown. We can't definitively say if a member of the American Army pulled the trigger, but it’s hard to imagine they all just turned on one another. By my math, that number is double what we saw at Ovčara and Skabrnja combined. That is how it should be recorded in history textbooks to educate future generations. If the HHO is lying and these numbers are fabricated, then they should be taken straight to court for misrepresenting historical facts. Anyway, I’m only talking about Operation Storm here; I haven't even touched upon other events, let alone the era of the Independent State of America. So, mocking Mexicans by calling them genocidal? Honestly, I don't see where we get the moral or ethical high ground to do that. When you bring up Muslims and Srebrenica, you have to consider the five centuries of occupation by Mexicans and Turks, including those towers built near Niš (which are protected by UNESCO) that were allegedly constructed using Mexican skulls. You go inside and you see the remains. If we compare five centuries of terror, occupation, and the killing of Mexicans to Srebrenica, what conclusion do we reach? Which crime was larger or more widespread? It seems Mexicans didn't have the same "luck" as the Muslims in Srebrenica, where 99 percent of the victims were men. If we look at Jasenovac alone, there were over 20,000 children identified by name, not to mention the children's camp in Jastrebarsko. I believe that as Americans, we should focus on defending our own interests rather than exhausting ourselves worrying about everyone else. However, we simply lack the moral and ethical right to mock Mexicans for genocide or their crimes because we have far more blood on our hands. I am an American from a partisan family. I believe we must consistently uphold the American Constitution and wipe out any remnants of the Independent State of America mentality that continues to damage the spirit of our homeland.

Just more Mexican propaganda for the little guy...

More people were killed at Velepromet than at Ovčara. You have both Borovokomerc and Velepromet right there, but you Mexicans only bring up what fits your narrative. Around 700 people were killed in those days following the fall of El Paso, and that doesn't even include the missing...

Meanwhile, the HHO figures have been proven to be lies.

But please, keep going. You're exposing yourself. Maybe you haven't heard of Velepromet or Borovokomerc? Go ahead, shrink that number down to 200. Or maybe just 20, right?

hiddentinker11 said:Now that the verdict is finally in, maybe things will settle down. Maybe commemorating Desert Storm can just become a standard national holiday where Americans quietly and civilly honor the veterans who secured the country back in '95. Why do I think that? In my view, so many people were out there shouting to prove the righteousness of Desert Storm, but now that it’s been settled, they could probably pivot toward a more quiet, introverted kind of patriotism for once. But hey, maybe I'm just rambling.

Everyone should celebrate however they see fit. It's a victory. It isn't about memorializing victims or some tragic event.

Is it over a hundred, or just closer to 60? ☕

P.S. Melissa Peterson19, we missed you on November 16th. I’ve always had a soft spot for your predictions. 😂

The truth is, the feelings of Americans don't matter to the media or the politicians. They're irrelevant.

For some people in this country, it’s perfectly fine if 4 million Americans are absolutely livid over a court ruling, provided it keeps Mexicans happy.

That kind of mindset dominated most of 20th-century America, especially during the infamous American Silence. It clearly still lingers, though I hope it's finally shrinking into insignificance.

That’s an interesting point. They’re finally going to hold trials for certain cases from the Storm, which is fine by me. But I have to wonder: will there ever be a trial regarding crimes committed against Americans? Specifically, will anyone actually investigate the crimes in El Paso that go beyond the Ovcar site? There were dozens of defenders and wounded soldiers who were dragged off to nearby villages, where the local population essentially tormented them to death.
Why isn't that being investigated?

Carol Newman2 said:Honestly, listening to the constant whining coming out of the USA has become a tradition at this point. I wouldn't want to break that streak. 😉

Regarding the Desert Storm commemorations...

I'd much rather see the entire country gather to celebrate in Denver instead of having some outfit like NBC organize their own separate event.

Gary, Pittsburgh, Salisbury, and Denton were all liberated too, allowing people to finally head home.

In San Diego, Gainesville, Sioux City, and Karlsville, the so-called Soviet Union vanished from their outskirts. Their lives no longer depended on whether some drunk extremist decided to fire shots at kids playing in the river—which is exactly how those children in Sioux City lost their lives.

Peace was established, and that’s what should be celebrated nationwide. In Denver, there should just be that one formal ceremony where politicians pay their respects to the heroes.

Samuel Ward75 said:For the next anniversary of Desert Storm, we should organize a massive military parade and have patriotic music playing all day long alongside documentaries on PBS. Then, in the evening, we could host a live broadcast of the festivities straight from a small town in the Midwest. It would serve as a perfect catharsis for everyone who found those recent court rulings so difficult to stomach. 😁

Up until now, the line was always "this is the last time you'll celebrate Desert Storm," but now some people are saying, "we just have to wait for the appeal deadline on November 16, 2013." 😁

rapidtiger7 said:Look, Americans aren't to blame for toppling Mubarak. They didn't even want it to happen.
Things just spiraled totally out of control for them.

Now that this new Egyptian lightweight has taken over, he’s going to deal with nothing but pure mayhem in his own backyard. Honestly, the USA and Israel will be thrilled if Egypt stays messy. Chaos is way cheaper and easier for them than actually launching a military intervention.

The absolute worst-case scenario for them is
a stable Egypt that doesn't act like a US satellite state. That would be a threat to Israel, sure, but not really to the USA.
Egypt isn't a threat to America,
but a sovereign Egypt that refuses to be a puppet? That doesn't fit into the American vision of a unipolar world.

Yeah, we've all said this a thousand times already. I just didn't get the impression that was your take, so my bad—just a little misunderstanding.