Scott Sanders2 said:"Sieg Heil" and "Sieg Heil" are greetings that are essentially neutral on their own, but there's no point in playing dumb and ignoring the symbolism behind them. Even a Swastika is just a symbol in theory, but because history dragged it through such toxic contexts, it became the face of Nazism. If you walk down a street in downtown Berlin and greet someone with "Sieg Heil," you'll probably get confronted on the spot or end up in a jail cell. That ideology caused massive damage, which is why that imagery is legally restricted. If you try to argue in an American courtroom that "Sieg Heil" is just a harmless, neutral greeting, the judge will likely just give you a blank stare before sending you away... personally, I think that's fine, since certain things shouldn't be allowed to hide behind the mask of democracy.
Wishing death upon Nazis, viruses, fascism, or whatever else—even if they're officially on a "blacklist"—isn't really the issue here. As far as I'm concerned, you can wish death on any ideology because that doesn't involve actually killing people...
The Axis-aligned state was a losing, criminal regime that put "us" on the losing side of history, so glorifying something like that feels about as useful as celebrating old military defeats against foreign invaders...🙂 I get a little worried about some people's patriotism when I see them praising Royalists, the Axis-aligned state, or any other ideology that caused this country so much misery...
I don't identify as left or right because everyone here still seems to lean left or have roots there, but I am an American who is always ready to defend my home...
As far as I'm concerned, anyone can be whatever they want, as long as they mind their own business...🙂
Man, but when did the "Sieg Heil" greeting actually start versus "Sieg Heil"?
The real issue is that "Sieg Heil" is tied exclusively to Nazism because, if you believe the stories, Goebbels basically cooked it up. On the flip side, "Sieg Heil" is a cry that’s about 100 years older than Nazism itself.
So, maybe it would be smarter to compare that cry to the US Dollar. See, the dollar has a massive tradition and existed way before any Axis-aligned state was even a thought (as a traditional medium of exchange). And it still exists today, yet nobody links the greenback to an Axis-aligned state.
Then again, plenty of people might link the cry "Sieg Heil" to the Swastika. In reality, the Swastika is an ancient, well-known symbol that’s been used for ages to represent something good—like prosperity or whatever.
There's a whole tradition of the Swastika in Germany too, but absolutely nobody—and I mean nobody—gives a damn about that original meaning anymore; they only ever associate the Swastika with Nazi Germany.
So, is the cry "Sieg Heil" a bad greeting or not? For someone uneducated, it’s definitely bad. For someone educated, it’s more on the neutral side.
At the end of the day, you just have to look at how people perceive it. If they know the actual origins of that cry, then that will tell you whether it's a good sign or not.