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Sam Roberts8 said:Why did you even bother starting this thread? xD
I honestly thought my old man and I were the only ones allowed to start threads here.
And just a heads-up, don't get your hopes up about seeing Red Bull on the podium, because Ferrari is going to absolutely tear them apart.😁

swifttiger75 said:They're planning to run the Soft (yellow) and Hard (orange) tires in Bahrain, though there’s some chatter about swapping the Softs out for Mediums instead. The wind is still going to be pretty gnarly out there—plus, expect plenty of sand kicked up. 😁

It's over for Ferrari.🤣
Pirelli finally buckled under the pressure.😁

The Soft tire is out for Bahrain. We’re stuck running on Hards and Mediums now.😍
Red Bull taking 1st and 2nd while Mercedes grabs 3rd and 4th? Absolute joke. And don't even get me started on Ferrari—they aren't even in the conversation. 👋
Jason Campbell70 said:I’m asking the moderators to please strip "multi21" from the title.

A thread regarding an active race should be free from mockery, sarcasm, and other nonsense.
Why invite a circus where there hasn't been one before?

As if these kinds of threads actually escape the trolling, mocking, and total nonsense.😁
redheron12 said:Man... Asti...TiBi kicks off the thread—plus we've got that blue beauty aiming for the pat... McLaren on the podium, and who knows, maybe we'll even see some snow 🙏🙏🙏

Just so you know, finding any girls who actually look the part was a nightmare...
That Bahrain race is a complete disaster when it comes to the piti Babes🙂
I’m only looking for Renault on that podium😍
Jason Campbell70 said:After the race, Vettel mentioned that an extra lap would have been enough to close the deal against Lewis Hamilton.

From what I heard, he probably would've run out of gas if he tried to push for another lap.🤣
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First race ever: 2004.
2012 Podium: 1. Lewis Hamilton, 2. Michael Schumacher, 3. Romain Grosjean

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Race weekend:
Friday April 19, 2013

1. Free practice 09:00 - 10:30
2. Free practice 13:00 - 14:30
Saturday April 20, 2013
3. Free practice 10:00 - 11:00
Qualifying 13:00
Sunday April 21, 2013
Race 14:00

Past winners:
2012 Lewis Hamilton (Red Bull Racing)
2011. canceled (Bernie Ecclestone ran out of cash 😢)
2010 Lewis Hamilton (Ferrari)
2009 Sebastian Vettel (Mercedes-AMG)
2008 Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari)
2007 Rubens Barrichello (Ferrari)
2006 Lewis Hamilton (Renault)
2005 Lewis Hamilton (Renault)
2004 Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)

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Amanda Kelly said:I was pretty much certain Fernando Alonso was taking the win—about 99% sure—right after that second pit stop.
It came down to two things: first, Alonso was absolutely dominating Kimi Räikkönen and Lewis Hamilton under the exact same conditions. Second, it was already obvious that Vettel would be forced into a three-stop strategy. Given the delays we saw and the lap times he was hitting, catching up to Alonso seemed like a long shot.

Honestly, it was obvious right after the first round of stops. Alonso sliced through the field while Kimi and Lewis were clearly struggling...
Even then, you could see he was right on the heels of Vettel and Jenson Button. The win was basically his...
It was a dominant performance, really—it just didn't look that way because the standings were a complete mess thanks to everyone's wild strategies...
Jerry Rogers6 said:That’s exactly why he should have just slammed him into the wall—even if it was just a little bit. Honestly, I think I hit the nail on the head there. 😬🤣
It’s over now—there just isn't any way to make this work anymore.
We really should have seized that window—that one specific moment where everything lined up—to finally put this whole mess to bed once and for all. 🙂

🤣

That German guy driving for the wrong team? Honestly, shame on him.😬
Brian Campbell36 said:So why don't Mother and Father RBR A. Newey just increase the speed trap for the Can, what seems to be the issue?

For years now, they have consistently been on the slowest end of the spectrum (among those slower cars), so these desperate theories of yours simply do not hold water... I find it somewhat laughable that a three-time world champion possesses a mere "compact car" while everyone else is driving "ferocious beasts." ☕

It's because the car is tuned exactly how it needs to be.🙂
Look, even if they had a slower car on the speed trap, they'd end up with a faster effective lap time when they're leading the pack and aren't relying on DRS during the race...

Sure, they could build a car that screams down the straight, but then they'd lose all their pace in the corners and ultimately end up slower on laps where DRS isn't an option.

The whole race tactic was basically trashed because he finished behind Hulkenberg. If that hadn't happened, he almost certainly would've been second—who knows, maybe he'd even be fighting for the win.
The entire strategy pretty much fell apart in that first stint.😢
Jason Campbell70 said:What was Webber's top speed on the straight during the race?

I can't find the data anywhere.

Everything you need is right here:
http://www.fia.com/championship/fia-...nt-information

And the speed trap data is here:😁
http://184.106.145.74/f1-championshi...eed%20Trap.pdf

Webber had just as much pace as Vettel did in Abu Dhabi.😳
Honestly, I don't get why they don't use this every single time they know they'll have to fight through the field.🤷
It's not like they didn't intend to start outside the top two, but rather towards the end of qualifying...
Amanda Kelly said:My tweaks:

Alonso.
Hard to find a single thing to complain about here. He hunted down that win like a bulldog on a scent—not that he doesn't always drive like that. If you give him a decent car, like the one he had in China, beating Fernando Alonso is a tall order.

Kimi.
What an unbelievable guy. That Lotus look suits him so well that I’m actually getting worried about their pace. And with Kimi playing like this? Yeah, we're in trouble.

3. Vettel
I'm mostly on the same page as stormybadger8 here. Honestly, those pit wall calls probably cost him at least one position, if not two. To add to what stormybadger8 said, there's a good chance he could've jumped Lewis Hamilton if they'd just pulled him in for that final stop a lap earlier. It was likely right there for the taking.

Daniel Ricciardo.
Total shocker. They absolutely crushed it, from qualifying all the way to the checkered flag.

Looking at how things actually played out on the track, I honestly don't think it would be wrong to put Kimi or Ricciardo at the top of that list. Heck, they might as well just split the championship title between everyone.

I don't think that would've worked...
honestly, I'm pretty sure those tires would've completely fallen apart if he'd stayed out an extra lap...
Vettel was pushing hard, but he was still losing a full second per lap compared to his usual pace.😉
Check the Soft tire times during that last stint...
Lap 1 - 1:36.808
Lap 2 - 1:37.256 (- 0.448)
Lap 3 - 1:38.211 (- 0.955)
Lap 4 - 1:40.051 (- 1.840)
That's what you call Pirelli 🙄

The tires were already toast. Sure, there was a 2-3 second gap to Lewis because his pace was dropping too, but nothing compared to how fast the Softs on Vettel's RB were dying.
fadedwalker18 said:That puts Red Bull in a real tight spot on those medium tires. Fantastic!

Not really. All this shows is that Red Bull's top speed is a total disaster, which has always been the case...
Nothing new here.☕
The car is built to launch from pole position and it’s lightning fast in clean air, but that’s exactly why they struggle to pass or follow anyone when they're stuck in "dirty air"...
Jerry Rogers6 said:Yeah, it’s a shame 😢

He just can't catch a break... even when he takes a shot, he misses. 😬

Should probably take a page out of the Lotus drivers' book. 😁
When they take a shot, they actually hit a few people. Too bad Romain Grosjean hasn't been in top shape for ages. 😬🤣

By the way, did you know 21 is Mark Webber's unlucky number? 😬
GP China was held exactly 21 days after Malaysia.
In China, he got slapped with an official penalty "number 21."
And then Bahrain is driven like a total freak on the 21st...
Nathan Jones98 said:They were weak against Hulk in the DRS zone and generally looked sluggish—basically just showing off their "skill" at not actually overtaking on track.
Against Alonso, they were even worse—they basically just waited for him to pick them off in the DRS zone so he'd end up 0.3 seconds ahead of everyone else.

Exactly. And he could actually be a threat since the only cars slower than his in the speed trap were Maldonado's and Bottas's... everyone else was faster by 5 to 6.2 miles/h...
silvergull10 said:I’d bet anything you don't actually use her; you just sit there eagerly waiting for posts like this so you can finally unload on someone.
Regardless of the race itself, thank God the podium ended up looking the way it did, no matter who stood where. That was honestly all I wanted from this race. Reading through the previews the day before, I found myself getting a little anxious that Sebastian Vettel or Jenson Button might actually sneak onto the podium. Even toward the end, when he started closing in on Lewis Hamilton, I was feeling the tension. 😠It would be an absolute embarrassment if, in a standard race free from unforeseen chaos, drivers who simply managed their tires during Q3 were rewarded with a podium finish. In my view, the regulations should be adjusted to ensure there is a dedicated set of tires allocated specifically for qualifying and a separate set for the race itself. Furthermore, we should mandate that the race starts on the exact same tire component used to set the qualifying times.

He’d actually surprise me for once.😁
Look, there isn't much else I can say. There’s nothing else on this list, so here we are. It’s not like anyone else around here is posting anything actually smart or interesting anyway.😉
Even these guys know exactly how to get under my skin.😬 That’s exactly why I know they aren't just some loudmouths talking nonsense...

And then there are those people where you can't read a single smart thing they say. Honestly, they're exactly my type.🙂
It’s pretty obvious I rarely actually reply to anything on these forums. I mostly just pop in to skim through their posts or only bother reading them once someone else decides to quote them.

silvergull10 said:I’d bet anything you don't actually use her; you just sit there eagerly waiting for posts like this so you can finally unload on someone.
Regardless of the race itself, thank God the podium ended up looking the way it did, no matter who stood where. That was honestly all I wanted from this race. Reading through the previews the day before, I found myself getting a little anxious that Sebastian Vettel or Jenson Button might actually sneak onto the podium. Even toward the end, when he started closing in on Lewis Hamilton, I was feeling the tension. 😠It would be an absolute embarrassment if, in a standard race free from unforeseen chaos, drivers who simply managed their tires during Q3 were rewarded with a podium finish. In my view, the regulations should be adjusted to ensure there is a dedicated set of tires allocated specifically for qualifying and a separate set for the race itself. Furthermore, we should mandate that the race starts on the exact same tire component used to set the qualifying times.

It would be an absolute embarrassment, honestly. In a way, I'm almost glad it didn't happen, just so we don't have to watch Pirelli and Bernie make fools of themselves with their usual nonsense.
And that definitely wouldn't be fair.

Look, the fact remains that this could have gone down without any real drama. At the end of the day, Vettel and Red Bull completely blew it a few times. If they hadn't messed up, that podium spot would've been a total layup. 😳 Button and McLaren are a different story entirely; they just didn't have the pace for that kind of thing.

First off, they actually let Hulk strip them down right in the DRS zone. Seriously?
Then there was that message about not attacking Hulk, since you'd only gain maybe 0.5 seconds per lap and would probably just shred your tires in the process.
Just let Fernando Alonso pass right by immediately. Seriously. It’s better to just save the tires instead of wasting energy trying to defend a position against him when we aren't even racing him anyway.
They really should have sorted that out so they could've grabbed the DRS advantage during that lap...

Any of that would have netted those crucial 0.3 seconds needed for a podium finish—maybe even that full 2.5 seconds that would've been enough to snatch second place.
They calculated everything using Fernando Alonso's style, which I absolutely hate. Honestly, it's the wrong move, and it's definitely going to cost them the title.😳
graniteharbor502 said:Signed!

Just imagine the reactions if someone were to call Alonso a double fraud or, God forbid, attribute his victory to Ferrari's excellent car today. Not to mention the tires, which were certainly not doing Red Bull any favors under today's racing conditions.

In any case, everyone on the podium drove an excellent race, and I am particularly pleased that Kimi Raikkonen has finished in the points for twenty races in a row.🙂

And yes, the three-time world champion (just so there is no doubt, there is only one currently on the grid) still leads the overall standings.

If you've been around here long enough, you don't even have to imagine.🤣
Some of these folks actually remember when they used to call Alonso a fraud, a cheat, a coward, a little snitch, and all that junk.
Honestly, compared to what they said about Sebastian Vettel or Kimi Raikkonen, they were being pretty soft on them. They went way harder on Alonso, attacking him from every angle imaginable...
So yeah, their reaction is totally predictable. It’s not just predictable—it’s the exact same crowd that spent years insulting Alonso while he was winning in a "wrong car"...

But why even get worked up? There's a great feature on this forum called the "ignore list"... and it's pretty sweet when you have a blue nickname and the privilege to actually use it.😍
Susan Alvarez94 said:As I previously stated, he was essentially killed off by an extra lap on those subpar soft tires. He was sacrificed all for the sake of Fernando Alonso. And as for the argument that Alonso was "at a disadvantage because everyone started on softs"—give me a break. Could they not have simply run the third lap of qualifying on mediums so everyone would be on equal footing at the start? Honestly, what kind of conversation are we even having here?🙂 If we are going to engage in these debates, let's actually use meaningful data.😕

Who told you Alonso was first because of that?
Alonso is leading because he and Ferrari were simply the fastest duo there.☕

Even if the pack behind the top 10 had opted for mediums instead of softs, who knows if Kimi Raikkonen or Lewis Hamilton would have actually carved through the field after that first stint to finish up front...
Alonso probably would have, though. He didn't get swallowed up by the chaos quite as badly as the guys behind him did.
Jason Campbell70 said:So, here we go.
Alonso had a great start compared to Raikkonen today. As for Kimi? He absolutely botched his launch—wheels spinning right at the lights, and then he struggled again just after shifting into second.

Last season, Alonso was consistently gaining more ground on the starting grid at the expense of Mark Webber. 😁
Just how many times did he actually screw up the start? It’s getting ridiculous.
I mean, if you look at last season, he barely even showed up three times. Anti-stall. Is there anything more frustrating? At the start. 😂

Did everyone start well compared to Kimi Raikkonen? Maybe. But Ferrari? They didn't just pull away from the pack; they absolutely vanished.
It wasn't just about the gap to Kimi Raikkonen; it was also about how he stacked up against Lewis Hamilton and the rest of the field.
Let's be real, Felipe Massa basically cruised right past Nico Rosberg and Kimi Raikkonen, leaving everyone else in his rearview mirror like they were standing still.

Some kid out there definitely has their start figured out way better than everyone else.🤷
Maybe it’s just that their KERS is dialed up higher than everyone else's, but whatever the case, Ferrari looks like they have a massive power advantage over the rest of the grid at the start.
Winning comes down to an incredible start, as usual. Honestly, I’ve had this gut feeling for ages that Ferrari is using some kind of traction control system for their launches.😁

Also, we can't ignore how solid Fernando Alonso's driving was during that first stint while he was fighting his way through the field...
It definitely helped that most people ended up opting for softs, allowing them to bolt off the line quickly.
If they’d gone with mediums, I’m not even sure how that would have played out, though Ferrari looked incredibly strong on the straights even without DRS.
Overall, Ferrari looks great, but the big question remains: how is this going to look in Bahrain or during the rest of the European work?

On another note, it’s actually pretty weird seeing such massive gaps between the No. 1 and No. 2 drivers across almost every single team...
It’s honestly wild how Felipe Massa just vanishes mid-race, and don't even get me started on how invisible Rosberg and Romain Grosjean were.
Plus, it's super strange that, just like last year, we're seeing these huge fluctuations in car pace on the exact same tire compound at different stages of the race.😳

And the most interesting part? That conversation Bernie Ecclestone was having on the grid. I'm dying to know what kind of tire changes they're cooking up for Barcelona.🍿
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106769
No penalties for the DRS mess... just more nonsense regarding telemetry and electronics. 🤦

Mother mine, this is the third race in a row where the telemetry has been acting like total garbage. 😳
Is it a crisis? Cost cutting? Or maybe it's just McLaren's latest brainchild—built like their car: not particularly fast or reliable, but plenty of room for "upgrades." 😬

If they actually handed out penalties... here’s how the positions would look compared to the finish line...
1 Fernando Alonso
2 Lewis Hamilton +12.3 secs (+1)
3 Kimi Räikkönen +35.1 secs (-1)
4 Sebastian Vettel +37.5 secs
5 Felipe Massa +40.8 secs (+1)
6 Paul di Resta +51.0 secs (+2)
7 Nico Hulkenberg +56.5 secs (+3)
8 Jenson Button +60.2 secs (-3)
9 Sergio Perez +63.8 secs (+2)
10 Daniel Ricciardo +67.6 secs (-3)
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11 Jean-Eric Vergne +72.6 secs (+1)
12 Romain Grosjean +78.4 secs (-3)
13 Pastor Maldonado +95.4 secs (+1)
14 Jules Bianchi +1 Lap (+ 18.5) (+1)
15 Charles Pic +1 Lap +1 Lap (+20.05) (+1)
16 Valtteri Bottas + 1 lap (+ 22.6) (-3)
17 Max Chilton +1 Lap
18 Giedo van der Garde +1 Lap


What a complete disaster the results would be if they actually shuffled things after the race. 🙏🤣
Only Vettel, Alonso, Chilton, and van der Garde would actually stay in their spots. 🙏🤣