Posts by stormybadger8

Based on everything we’ve seen so far (though who knows if these cars actually look anything like what hits the grid for race one), Aston Martin looks completely different from the rest of the pack...
It’s either a total disaster because they missed the mark entirely, or they just hit a home run like Brawn did with the diffuser. 😬

We'll find out soon enough. Like they said, we're all flying blind...

I have no clue how much weight to give the Haas and Red Bull reveals (though I’m betting Red Bull won't actually end up with anything resembling what they just showed...), but based on what we've seen so far, the car concepts look wildly different from one another. The real question is just how long that gap lasts.
It probably won't take long before we figure out who actually nailed it and who completely missed the mark...

It’s pretty wild how different Aston Martin and McLaren look out on track, even though they're both running Mercedes-Benz engines...

So, what's the verdict on Aston?
Personally, I think they look great. That whole FIA concept looks hideous to me, and don't even get me started on that fake Red Bull vibe...

Aston isn't even close to last year's car...
It looks completely different. Honestly? Pretty weird too...

Aston looks incredible, assuming it actually moves as fast as it looks. 🙏

It’s got a pretty wild design, though. 🤔
Like a girl with a massive chest and booty but a tiny waist. 😁

This sprint weekend is a total mess, and honestly, that’s why it’s pointless...
If they’d actually used some brainpower designing this, it might work. As it stands, it’s just nonsense that looks like it was cooked up by some drunk guy stumbling down the street who hasn't a clue how Formula 1 works...
The whole weekend is basically ruined because the FP sessions make zero sense, we have a race on Saturday that isn't even a real race, and Friday qualifying doesn't feel like qualifying either 😵
And let's be real, nobody has any idea what FP2 is actually supposed to be for...

The only upside to the sprint was having freedom to pick tires for the race, which added some flavor, but they could've easily done that without the sprint...
It’s been a joke for a long time that you have to start on your Q2 tires. The top teams breeze through on mediums anyway (they'd probably manage on hards too🤦) and that usually just kills qualifying,
because the mid-field teams, instead of aiming for Q3, mostly just settle for starting at P11...
Why bother fighting for Q3 to secure P10 when most of them can't pull it off anyway? Plus, you completely wreck your race because starting on softs is a massive no-no...

Congrats to the winners.

graniteharbor502 said:Well, if you actually walk away, wouldn't that just prove you're acting exactly like Valtteri Bottas? Even he is leaving Mercedes 😁
And if you decide to stick around, perhaps you'll end up being more like George Russell 🕺

And why not be Rosberg? You know, the Barbie version. 😁🤣

I wasn't even around during the race. I missed that massive pile of posts where you and zoom were just insulting and trolling each other—obviously, the mods scrubbed them so you two wouldn't completely hijack the thread with your bickering...
All I saw were the reports, and honestly, I'm giving you 10 points for this race, even though you and zoom definitely deserved way more for the chaos.
Just because you had 190 points before this warning doesn't mean anyone should be letting you off the hook now...

You both went overboard. You're both banned. Simple as that.

Drew Ross2 said:So, what exactly do women actually need? 😳

just kidding, honestly today was just pure chaos 🐔

😁

cosmicmoose2 said:If you ask me, that wasn't even a real race... It was just Max playing dirty. He knows he can't catch Lewis because Lewis is clearly faster, so he just forces him off the track on purpose to get him out of the way. It’s pathetic...

So, look... if they only hand out penalties for actual contact, then Max Verstappen might as well keep driving like a maniac. He’ll just keep trying to force Lewis Hamilton off the track at every single race for the rest of the season. It honestly makes sense for him at this point...

Honestly, I’d much rather see two drivers actually go for the same corner and end up clashing than watch one guy pull some "totally new corner" bullshit... You know, when they just dive off the track, knowing full well the other driver has zero chance of avoiding a collision unless they just give up the spot—even though it's obvious their car is faster. It's cheap. Just plain cheap...

First off, call it a racing incident if you want—I don't care how messy the contact was... But second? This is nothing but a blatant, pure abuse of the current points standings. Seriously...

Total nonsense. Just compare Lewis Hamilton’s dive at Lando Norris during (I think) the last lap of that sprint race to what Max Verstappen just pulled. It isn't even close... In the first case, Lewis brakes later than Lando, sure, but he actually keeps control of the car so both of them can stay on the track. In the second case? Max has zero intention of actually completing the lap... he just drives straight off the track.

We can go back and forth on whether people should be punished in those kinds of situations—personally, I say yes—but only a complete idiot could claim that what went down between Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton in Brazil was just some typical driving error...

Blah, blah, blah...
If we wrap this up, according to British driver Brundle, both Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton braked way too late and neither of them took the corner on a normal line,
so if there was zero chance for either of them to make it through normally within the track limits, then what exactly does that mean? 🙂

Patrick Taylor9 said:You’re a bigger demagogue than Vettel is a driver.
It’s simple. There are rules, and there are penalties for breaking them. Period. We already saw a penalty handed out this year for a much smaller infraction during a similar duel. It doesn't matter if the consequences were harsher this time; officially, the blame is shared. The guy who ended up in the barrier wouldn't be there if he had acted more or less like Lewis Hamilton did. In this instance, Lewis Hamilton was forced fifty meters off the track, whereas in that first case, it would have been maybe a couple of meters—assuming the driver actually wanted to avoid contact.

Blah, blah, blah...
Poor Lewis got shoved fifty meters off the track, but it feels to me like Max Verstappen pushed him nearly 2.8 kilometers away from the circuit. 🤔

If they had just slapped Max with a penalty mid-race, it wouldn't have mattered at all...☕
But doing it right now? That would be an absolute embarrassment on an epic scale. It would be such blatant favoritism toward Mercedes that it would be disgusting, and F1 would literally lose a massive chunk of its fanbase.

Whether Max is guilty or not is basically irrelevant here.
But handing out a penalty after you basically said there wouldn't be one during the race is just painfully shameful.
Why are you even asking? 🙂

Because it's obvious as day why the stewards gave Max a 5-second—or even that famous 10-second—penalty, when in reality, it effectively counts as zero points...
Even if they went crazy and handed him 10 seconds because "that's just how Max acts" when he's shoving people harder than Lewis Hamilton or Valtteri Bottas did to a quarter of the grid... 🙂
Because apparently poor Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes have childhood traumas, so it's somehow worse when you nudge them than when you ram into others or take out half the field. I guess they need lighter penalties because of their "trauma."

It's crystal clear that Max wouldn't have slowed down after Lewis Hamilton overtook him if he knew he had a penalty; he would've just maintained that 10-second gap to Bottas...🙂
https://en.mclarenf-1.com/2021/gp/s8...times/821-801/

At this point, a post-race penalty would be an epic disgrace and pure interference by the FIA in the title fight to help Mercedes. ☕
In fact, it would be such biased favoring of the Germans that the championship title could be declared completely worthless.☕

cosmicmoose2 said:What racing line? Max completely missed the track.
It wasn't a lockup, he just took a path that had absolutely nothing to do with the actual circuit. He did it on purpose.
Just look at how he entered that corner during qualifying versus how he did it on lap 48. It's obvious.

The way Lewis Hamilton hit that corner in qualifying versus how he handled it on lap 48... what a difference. 🙂
The only way he overtakes him—and I mean actually doing it on the track—is if aliens abduct Max mid-lap or if Max just slams on the brakes and lets him through.
Both scenarios are completely unrealistic. ☕

Is this Max Verstappen doing this on purpose?
Look, if you're saying "good morning" on purpose, fine. But you don't just drive a car around a track unconsciously or by accident, and you certainly aren't defending yourself against... 19 milesI’d take a faster car with massive grip any day. Please, don't. 🙂

Was Lewis Hamilton's entry into that corner intentional?
Let’s be real, that move was intentional. He went in exactly how he did just to force Max Verstappen to brake hard or mess up, hoping it would land him a penalty.
Let's be real—he didn't just happen to end up in that position by accident while trying to overtake. There's no way he's some innocent victim here. Max Verstappen definitely wasn't just out for a casual drive when he shoved him off the track. 🤣

Was there any penalty handed out for that?

Sure, Max Verstappen could get penalized, but honestly? It’s not a done deal.
If the FIA actually wants us to watch racing, then punishing drivers like this is just insane. This kind of stuff is literally the whole reason we tune in to Formula 1. 😳
It’s all or nothing—fighting for the win and the title. Aggressive defending, relentless attacks, and pushing until the very last inch without backing down.
Trying to overcomplicate things like that is peak stupidity. If they actually go through with it, they’re just being idiots for the sake of it.
People would still be acting like idiots even if Max had stayed on track and Lewis passed him by just a few inches while clipping the curb. They’d still find some way to demand he get punished for "overtaking off-track" or whatever nonsense they're claiming now.

Do you want F1 to be an adrenaline-fueled battle between the fastest gladiators on the planet, or do you want it to be a whining competition before, during, and after the race?
Are we seriously asking for a reality show where we just sit around listening to Toto, Christian Horner, Helmut Marko, and the rest of the crew whining about Felipe Massa and his crew? Followed by all the drivers melodramatically acting like they were nearly murdered during those kinds of situations?
Watching Ronne tear up and act like he's got PTSD after a duel like that... or just some kid losing his mind. 🙄
If we actually get what we're asking for, we won't be debating who the fastest driver is or who the best racer is. Instead, we'll be wondering who the best actor is and who has the most expensive legal team sitting around a conference table.

Penalties like this should only happen if there’s an actual collision. As long as parts aren't flying through the air and nobody is touching or causing damage, just let them race. Let them fight it out and actually give the fans something worth watching.
Especially when you're talking about these kinds of battles where there’s zero actual danger involved. The odds of a collision are basically non-existent. No matter how you look at it, I don't see which kid is being dangerous here or why anyone would actually deserve a penalty.

I honestly don't get it. How can any actual sports fan look at a situation like this and call for a penalty? It makes zero sense.
Well hello. If they actually start handing out penalties for stuff like this, we’re all in big trouble.
Just a straight procession from start to finish, exactly like the order we saw at the end of lap one...
B.) A race where passing outside the DRS zone is basically a suicide mission unless you've got a literal rocket strapped to your car. Every single overtake just looks like someone getting lapped...
C.) A race that wraps up on Sunday, only for us to sit in limbo for the next two weeks while the officials debate and bicker over who gets what penalty. We might not even know who actually won the championship until three months into next season—if we ever find out at all...

Rebecca Parker said:They could have started the race, but they didn't. Why? Because they decided to hand those points over to Max Verstappen instead. They didn't actually have to give them to anyone else!

How much drama would there be if the situation were flipped? 🙄

How on earth did they decide to basically hand those points to Max?
When exactly did Lewis score those extra 5 points? Because by dragging out the start like that, they basically cut the total points in half.
25 - 15 = 10, 12.5 - 7.5 = 5 ☕
If they actually wanted to be completely neutral, they’d just sit right behind the Scuderia until the rain stops. If it doesn't stop, then everyone gets full points and we can all go home happy.
If they really wanted to screw Max over, they would've ended the race right after lap 23 and just handed out full points.
The way they set this up? It looks like nothing more than a blatant favor for Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes-Benz.

So, you're asking me to explain how they could possibly decide not to award points to anyone? Seriously? I mean, come on. It sounds absolutely ridiculous when you say it out loud, right? But yeah, here we go. 🙂
Look, just explain it to me. Give me the details, please... I'm lost.

Who’s actually footing the bill?
You Lewis Hamilton fans would be out there begging for spare change at traffic lights, and then you'd just expect Toto or Lewis to cough up the cash. 🙂

Are you even aware of what you just said?
Man, I don't even want to think about the cost. We're talking tens of millions in damages owed to TV networks all over the world, payouts to track owners, refunding everyone who bought tickets... it’s just an absolute nightmare.
And all that just so poor Lewis could have another chance to embarrass himself during the race like he did in qualifying? 🤷

Honestly, someone should just give Lewis Hamilton 100 points for pure artistic merit after that brilliant qualifying session. Everyone else? Zero. 🙂

Rebecca Parker said:If he walked away with points after a race like that, I can't say I'm surprised. At least he drove the best he could. There was definitely a chance someone would have slammed right into Max Verstappen 😁, but that didn't happen because they decided to just hand him free points—just like how everything seems to go his way so many times this season. Trying to spin this to favor Lewis Hamilton is honestly laughable 🙄

edit: Great breakdown of the incident. If Lewis had veered into Max Verstappen at the 4:20 mark, just like when Max Verstappen hit him at Silverstone, they both would've ended up in the gravel just like last time. I really hope Max Verstappen gets punished retroactively.

The only joke here is how you people twist logic and math until it’s unrecognizable🙂
If Max Verstappen had taken those points for a race like that, he’d be sitting 5 points ahead of Lewis Hamilton, plain and simple...

Everything else is just pure stupidity on your part. It was obvious from the jump that the race would go ahead, even if cars were only crawling ten meters behind the SC or whatever distance qualifies as "held"☕
And that was clear before the first FP. Anyone with half a brain was already bracing for it during FP, since the results from any FP that weekend can technically set the grid and determine point distribution under the rules... nothing new, nothing surprising here.

Canceling the race is practically impossible because the financial fallout for the F1 owners, the FIA, the teams, and everyone else in the chain would be massive. So, obviously, it has to happen...

Anything else is just peak nonsense. It's not the FIA's fault, it's not God's fault, and it's not some aliens starting 3 places back that's to blame for Hamilton
... If a guy like George Russell in a Williams Racing could start 2nd, then I guess the "best rainy day driver," the "GOAT," and all that nonsense can somehow grab a Williams too, while Max Verstappen—who apparently has zero clue how to drive in bad weather—gets his advantage neutralized by the rain🙂

James Collins said:Nobody is even saying that. The actual point—which you guys are either totally ignoring or just twisting around—is that nobody was supposed to get points for that race at all.
It’s like two football teams head out for warmups, the weather is right on the edge of being unplayable, things get worse mid-way through, and then the ref and the crew decide it’s too risky and call the whole thing off after a few minutes. Then later, they announce the favorite gets 1.5 points (half a win) and the underdog gets 0.5 (half a draw).
Sounds stupid, right? Would the favorite have won? Who knows.
It’s just plain dumb to hand out points when the game didn't even happen.
Same goes for giving points for a race that wasn't actually driven.
Honestly, I don't care if Lewis is better, Max is better, or if a literal saint is better. The point is, someone got points they didn't earn.

What is wrong with you people...🤦

How many damn races have we seen where everyone just crawls behind the SC for 10, 15, maybe 20 laps, then maybe we get half a lap or one full lap without the SC, then boom—somebody like Yuki Tsunoda crashes into someone or hits the wall on a rolling start, bringing back the SC or a red flag, and then we sit there watching trucks crawl around cleaning up debris for 15 laps, followed by another 10-15 laps behind the SC, blah blah blah... and then darkness and the points are split.🙄

It’s not the first time either. The only difference is that Massi, unlike Charlie, didn't have the balls to say "start the race." If anyone wants to whine about the conditions, they can go cry to their mommy at home.☕

Rebecca Parker said:Come on, just tell us right now who's going to be the champion since that crystal ball is working overtime through all 16 races🙄

That whole farce in Belgium where they flipped everything in Lewis Hamilton's favor? Honestly, it was the absolute peak of comedy🤦

James Collins said:Don't mess with me. Is pole position a huge advantage? Yeah, absolutely. Is it a guaranteed win? Of course not.
Look, that’s not even the real issue with the whole circus over at Spa-Francorchamps. The actual problem with the mess in Belgium is that the race should have been postponed or just called off entirely. I mean, awarding points just because they hit two laps behind the Safety Car? That’s a total joke. Honestly, it's just a bad punchline.
Look, don't even try to play dumb with me here. Nobody should be getting any points. It’s simple, really—the race wasn't actually driven. It just didn't happen. Period.

So, what sport are you guys actually following? 🤦
Let's do a little math...
Rainy "normal" race.
1st place, 25 points = Max Verstappen.
P2 and 18 points. Looks like we’ve got ourselves a new golden boy from the UK.
3rd place, 15 points = Lewis Hamilton.
That’s a +10 gap for Max Verstappen.

So, this is how it turned out.
First place gets 12.5 points. That’s Max.
P2, 9 points. Looks like we have a new golden boy from the UK.
Third place, 7.5 points. That's Lewis Hamilton.

Max is up by 5...

Which kid isn't being clear here?
If the FIA actually wanted to, they could have just held a parade where everyone follows the Safety Car for 23 laps straight. That’s basically their standard operating procedure whenever more than three drops of rain hit the track. 🙄...hand out points like candy and God help us all...

And that’s just not true. They spent the whole time debating one thing or another, only to end up splitting the points down the middle in that embarrassing way.
It’s not like things would have been any better if they’d handled it differently, but man, they really went all out on the damage limitation for Lewis.

James Collins said:You don't need to be some big-shot Formula 1 expert—and trust me, I'm definitely not—to see what happened. You can tell Max Verstappen was braking way too late and just wasn't turning the wheel where he should've, all just to shove his rival right off the track. A standard five-second penalty? Whatever. The real sting is that he ends up finishing 3rd behind that flying Finn. That's three measly points lost, man. Just... ugh.
Honestly, those decisions in Belgium were absolute garbage too. I mean, they dragged that whole thing out for like three hours just to end up running two laps behind the SCa and handing him the win. Sure, it was only half points, but still, a win's a win.

If anyone benefited from the FIA's embarrassment in Belgium, it was Lewis, not Max.🤣
Where are you even getting your math from? Seriously...
Max starts on pole, so regardless of how much it pours, he’s the one with the massive advantage because he’s the only one not stuck in a literal cloud of water.☕

Bottom line: if the race had started normally and on time, whether they used the SC or whatever...
Max is the guy most likely to take the win. Lewis would have been sandwiched between Ricciardo and George Russell, and he probably would've ended up with a DNF instead of a win. In the end, Lewis only lost 5 points despite finishing third, which would have actually been 10 points otherwise.

Rebecca Parker said:He isn't crazy; he's just a dirty driver. It’s easy to defend and attack like that when you aren't thinking about the safety of yourself or anyone else. Honestly, it's sad to me that Lewis's haters even try to put him and Max in the same conversation.🤦

If Lewis Hamilton actually had his edge back, he’d be diving right down the inside of his opponent. 🙂
Don't give me that crap about Lewis being a clean driver. The guy definitely played some dirty tricks against his rivals during his career.
He's the exact same kid as Max, only difference is Lewis actually has some manners and knows how to speak without just blabbering nonsense like Max does. As for their driving style? There’s absolutely no difference when it comes to being clean on track.

And let's be real, Max Verstappen played that one exactly how he wanted to, without even blinking.
Honestly, it’s a dead certainty that Lewis would have done the exact same thing. The only difference? Max definitely wouldn't have finished the race after a move like Lewis's.
Look, Lewis doesn't just shove you around like that and force you into a spin. He’s way more experienced and precise than that. 🙂

James Harris34 said:That's just not true. Between 2010 and 2012, Massa was just as talented as he always was. The issue was that he was essentially playing wingman to Alonso during those years, which definitely took its toll on his motivation, but his raw driving skill never wavered.
And when he finally got a shot at Williams, he was consistently beating Bottas, which really speaks volumes about how good he actually was.

How much longer is this going to last? 🤣
Look, I get the obsession with Lewis Hamilton and all that, but honestly, aren't you embarrassed reading your own "wisdom"? 🤣

Massa was never top-tier talent to begin with. Even if by some miracle he had been, after years of being bullied and playing second fiddle to teammates, he’d be totally broken and without a sponsor...
Not to mention he was already 34, had a wife and kids, and nobody even knew why the hell he was trying to get back into Formula 1 after that accident...

For crying out loud, even Michael Schumacher hit a slump after certain years—he wasn't even himself and he was getting beaten steadily by Nico Rosberg...
And that was way more significant than Bottas beating Felipe Massa, who, by the way, Bottas only beat by maybe 10-20% more points,
which isn't even a real beat; that's basically just one or two DNFs in a season.

Massa was never on Michael Schumacher's level, and he took a massive hit to the head.
Honestly, it's a miracle he drove anything at all, let alone a Formula 1 car after that. Using him as a benchmark is pure stupidity. 😵
It's like comparing Robert Kubica then to someone today. 🤦